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anathenema posted:I dug it, but I'd be hard-pressed to deny the charge of juvenile dialogue. Didn't his Dad have his lover slowly and publicly impaled through the rectum in the city square? I didn't think it was just juvenile bitchery.
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neongrey posted:He at least appears to have some sort of crippling depression issues, as opposed to just, you know, not writing. The net result is the same to the reader, but I find it easier to be sympathetic towards someone who's got actual problems as opposed to vague writer's block. And I think that the next book has actually been delivered and is on schedule to be released this spring.
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Say one thing for Joe Abercrombie... say that motherfucker just got paid. http://www.joeabercrombie.com/2011/01/04/new-year-new-deal/ 4 more books after the Heroes (a standalone and another trilogy). Nice.
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Just finished the Heroes. I liked it quite a bit, it kind of feels like Abercrombie was just wrapping things up in the North so that whatever he does next can be somewhere else without people moaning about wanting to know what the Dogman is up to. There is at least one answer to a question that people have asked about the end to the First Law trilogy. poor west
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Bummey posted:Have I forgotten this much about what happened in BSC? What did Bremer do to deserve this? all he did was get knocked out by Shivers in that whorehouse. then he got made a scapegoat for the entire fiasco.
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gninjagnome posted:The only thing I really didn't like about the end of Heroes was Bayaz's "this was my plan all along!!" with getting Calder in power. I thought that was dumb. I don't mind Bayaz getting what he wants, but I would have preferred if he just made use of the situation at hand rather then having orchestrated any part of it. "Good planning allows for accidents, it makes sure all accidents are happy ones." I took that to mean Bayaz was hoping to use Calder, but had some other alternatives. Shivers stepping in during the circle was totally unplanned, and if not for that Calder's plot line would have had a much different ending. Given that Scale was still alive and in Bayaz's hands, Bayaz likely would have just stuck Scale on the throne after getting Tenways or Stranger to off Dow.
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Kneel Before Zog posted:An odd request but could someone spoil the major events that happened at the end of BSC? I never finished the book and left it back home but I've been holding off Heroes because of this. Where did you leave off? Was it before or after Shivers gets his eye burned out by torturers?
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anathenema posted:So, our friend Abercrombie gets a mention in this blog by scared old people as a fallen, bankrupt nihilist. The simple fact that "Heros Die" is cited along with the First Law and Malazan in that article is almost enough to get me to overcome the shame that would come with buying something with that awful cover. Can anyone tell me if its any good?
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gninjagnome posted:I like that he put's Conan up on a pedastal, as some sort of mythic hero of good in line with the heroes of LOTR. If I recall correctly, Howard let Conan sleep around, leave friends to die, backstab people for money, etc.. many of the things the that guy is ragging on modern fantasy for. I'm reading one of Howard's Conan stories on the project gutenberg website right now, and it is hilariously racist and sexist. Prose so purple that it might as well be black except Conan doesn't like things that are black
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How does everyone feel about Abercrombie's fellow nihilist/corruptor of fantasy Richard K. Morgan? I ask because it looks like Morgan is almost done with the sequel to the Steel Remains and just posted a new sample chapter on his blog. It is... gross.
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Hughmoris posted:We are of a singular mind. While gunpowder would be interesting, I hope Abercrombie doesn't introduce it anymore into his stories. In the trilogy, was Logen's age ever mentioned? I always thought of him being in his mid 30's. I think he was the same age as Bethod, and Bethod had two sons that were both adults by the end of the trilogy. That'd put Logen between 30-45 I'm guessing.
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Notahippie posted:Specific to that, I may be missing something obvious but I couldn't work out what Yoru's message to Bayaz was in the scene where Bayaz is getting extremely pissy because the lord marshall is going to sue for peace. Sulfur comes up and whispers in Bayaz's ear, and suddenly Bayaz relaxes and says "go for it." What message do you think he passed on? I was looking for strange or unexplained phenomena after that scene, but I never caught it. It may have been news that Stranger Come Knocking was ready to switch sides
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HeroOfTheRevolution posted:While I recommend reading Best Served Cold, there's some other information that was missed in the above point that relates to the grander story. 5) Shivers gets an eye burned out with a hot poker by people torturing him for information because they don't believe that he is telling them the truth. He then goes absolutely crazy and eventually just replaces his burned out eye with a steel ball. 6)A random Styrian noble likes piss play
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HeroOfTheRevolution posted:A relatively important character tells the main character that he likes strong women and asks if she'd piss on him. She just walks out. It's done more for comedic effect than anything, and nor is it much of a spoiler. Does she walk out? I kind of thought the scene cuts out at a point where she goes "well.....". Anyways, its a totally unimportant detail that I threw in there as a joke.
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cultureulterior posted:Richard Morgan's The Steel Remains. If you read this, you can read the sequel in october.
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zoux posted:What's his next project? Another trilogy in the same world and two more stand-alones I think.
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wellwhoopdedooo posted:I dunno, I feel like Shenkt was weak in BSC, but I can't wait to find out exactly what kind of shitbag he really is. Well at the very least he is the kind of shitbag that is married, finds a horribly injured woman, hauls her to his private cannibal shack and then rapes her while she recovers but is too injured to get away. e: I do like that these books feature a character that we see repeatedly killing and eating people, including children, and it is entirely understandable when people say, "I wonder what his character flaw is going to be."
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Clinton1011 posted:Did I miss something? I don't remember that happening or even being implied. Maybe I'm mis-remembering but I thought there was a scene where he is creepily tending to her wounds and says something along the lines of, "you awake certain passions in me that only my wife has ever been able to excite" then cuts out and returns with a line along the lines of "when he was finished..." which I read in the worst possible way, given Abercrombie-world. As for eating a child I know he at least kills one during the final battle in the castle.
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wellwhoopdedooo posted:I think you're thinking of: Yep, totally my bad. Glad he wasn't as much of a creeper as I recalled.
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The Gunslinger posted:Yeah I can agree with that. TFL spoilers She gets reincarnated by making a deal with blah blah on the other side just so she can get revenge. Yet she has several opportunities to gently caress him over and she just lets him live for no apparent reason. Her character motivation is supposedly revenge but she doesn't bother despite it being simple for her to renege on her end of the deal. I think that while she is driven by revenge, she is also supposed to have been driven completely insane by the voices / demons / other side and was more or less just doing their bidding.
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It is entirely possible that I just made that up like I made up the Shenkt-rapey vibe thing. My reading comprehension is apparently not so good.
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DarkCrawler posted:I think Yoru Sulfur was doing some other stuff, in the swamp or spying on Ishri or something like that. Wasn't he off negotiating with Stranger Come Knocking or some such?
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