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dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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What were Napoleon's military innovations?

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dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Boondock Saint posted:

For anyone who is further interested in just how badly the Nazi's mismanaged themselves,

Speaking of this, a couple of months ago I read this book:


Some of the chapters:
  • After his victory in the 1940 campaign in the West, Hitler had an opportunity for victory, but turned away from it to plan a frontal assault on the Soviet Union and carry out his schemes to destroy Jews and other peoples he hated.

  • His decision to launch an aerial war against Britain and his inability to secure air supremacy to cover an invasion of the British isles.

  • Hitler decides to invade Russia before the aerial Battle of Britain is ended. He refuses to consider a major thrust through North Africa to secure Suez and the Middle East. Description of the German seizure of Yugoslavia and Greece.

  • Description of the German descent on Crete and Hitler’s refusal to attack Malta, which was by far a more important target.

  • Description of Erwin Rommel’s astonishing early victories in North Africa. How
    his military genius overcame vastly superior British forces. How Hitler refused to capitalize on Rommel’s victories.

  • Description of the overambitious aims of Hitler in his planned attack on the Soviet Union.

  • How Hitler’s demands for seizure of Leningrad in the north and the industries and farmland of the Ukraine in the south left insufficient power to capture Moscow in the center.

  • Description of the final abortive “flight to the front” to seize Moscow before the depth of winter, and how this spelled the end of German military supremacy.

  • After the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor and the United States enters the war, Hitler refuses to alter his priorities. He remains committed to destruction of the Soviet Union.

  • Description of Rommel’s last desperate effort to seize the Suez Canal, and the British success in stopping him at Alamein, sixty miles from Alexandria, on June 30, 1942.

  • Hitler’s insistence on two contradictory objectives in 1942: Stalingrad on the Volga River and the oilfields of the Caucasus. How this division of strength led to disaster.

  • Description of Rommel’s plan to drive behind the Allied armies in Tunisia and force them to withdraw in 1943. How envy of another German general and incompetence of the Italian high command led to its failure.

  • Hitler insisted on a frontal assault to eliminate the Kursk salient in Russia in July 1943, leading to a stunning defeat and a massive Soviet offensive that drives the Germans far to the west by the end of 1943.

  • Description of the Allied invasion on June 6, 1944, of the failure of the Germans to devise an adequate defensive plan, and of the battles in Normandy

  • The story of Hitler’s last gamble, to try to split the British in the north from the Americans to the south. Patton’s rush up from the south liberates Bastogne and causes the offensive to collapse.
Anyone else read it?

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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I'm reading Tuchman's Guns of August and she portrays Joffre as a tunnel-visioned bumbler who can only focus on the Plan 17 offensive at the start of the war, ignoring all reports of a large German right wing offense, temperamentally incapaple of listening to subordinates who call for a defensive strategy. I can't believe anyone this stupid would be put in charge, and suspect that Tuchman may have exaggerated Joffre's decision making for dramatic effect. What is the historical consensus on Joffe?

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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ganglysumbia posted:


Admiral Snackbar posted:




Mister Gopher posted:



Thank you.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Sorry for the WWIIchat, but I just finished Richard Overy's The Road to War and it struck me that I know almost nothing about Japan's involvement in the war. Is there a good general history on Japan's involvement in the war (and the rampup to it)?

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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I just read The Ghosts of Cannae by Robert L. O'Connell, and he makes a big deal about how useless the Carthaginian war elephants were, in Italy and Spain and elsewhere. Is this the general opinion as well?

Also, a big part of the 2nd punic war seemed to involve naval and amphibous battles. O'Connell suggests that this is where Carthage seemed to have a real advantage, yet Rome apparently got the better of most of them. Maybe I got the wrong impression from the book. What is the general opinion of the importance of naval battles in the Punic wars, and the relative strengths of Rome and Carthage?

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Barto posted:

Could someone break down for me, especially in terms divisions/production capacity, the contribution of the USSR in World War II? Lately, I've been discussing with some friends about how the U.S.+Britain et al weren't that important to the Western theatre, didn't do all that much of the fighting, never faced the full brunt of the professional German army, and the USSR could have won it on their own (albeit with financial help from the west). Am I close to the mark, or pretty far off?

Here's a nifty table from Adam Tooze's The Wages of Destruction:



and this plot from wikipedia:

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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I found this table in Richard Overy's Russia's War

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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DarkCrawler posted:

It really is ridiculous how many Emperors were assassinated or murdered.

After reading Adrian Goldsworthy's How Rome Fell, I was inspired to grab some data and make a couple of graphs:

dokmo posted:

This is a survival plot of the length of the reign of Roman Emperors:

The vertical axis shows the proportion of imperial reigns that lasted longer than the value on the horizontal axis. You can see that the 50% mark (the grey line) shows than half of Roman Emperors reigned four years or less.

The author emphasizes the chaos of the second and third centuries, when 80% of emperors were killed or committed suicide or died under mysterious circumstances:


dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Farecoal posted:

My brother claims the Civil War was a useless war because slavery would have become economically unviable around 30 years after the 1860s. He told me it would become too expensive to care for the slaves. (He also claims this is why in a libertarian society there wouldn't be slavery) Bullshit? Not bullshit?

There was a famous paper by Alfred H. Conrad and John Meyer in 1958, which concluded:





I believe other studies by economists have confirmed the point that there's no economic reason (as opposed to political or social reason) to believe that slavery would have become unprofitable (eg).

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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HisMajestyBOB posted:

This is from a few pages back, but I have to add another interesting bit to it. After the war, Argentina wanted major territorial gains, if not an outright partitioning of Paraguay. However, President Rutherford B. Hayes, who arbitrated the disputes after the war, sided with Paraguay, and Argentina got much less land than they wanted. In gratitude, the Paraguayan government renamed a department and its capital city after Hayes.

The writeup you quoted caused me to pick up To the bitter end: Paraguay and the War of the Triple Alliance by Christopher Leuchars, which I just finished the other day. It is a straight military history of the conflict that mostly stays away from the politics and people (which were pretty interesting in their own right), but is at pains to provide a balanced account. It was fascinating: lots of artillery and trench warfare, a paddle-boat navy, suicidal bayonet charges, Congreve rockets and primitive torpedoes.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Saint Guinness posted:

These books have revealed that I don't know nearly enough about the War of 1812 as I would like. Can anyone suggest some good reads to help rectify my lack of knowledge in this area?

I'm Canadian, so pretty much everything I've read about that war is from that perspective.

Pierre Berton's War of 1812 was a well written narrative introduction.

Jon Lattimer's 1812: War with America was more in depth into the milatary aspects.

Mark Zuehlke is a Canadian military historian, but his For Honour's Sake: The War of 1812 and the Brokering of an Uneasy Peace is a book that focuses mostly on the diplomatic aspects of the war, particularly on the USAian side and their need to save face.

In my library but unread at this point:

Stephen Budiansky - Perilous Fight: America's Intrepid War with Britain on the High Seas, 1812-1815
James Ellis - A ruinous and unhappy war: New England and the War of 1812
Albert Marrin - 1812, the war nobody won

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Grand Prize Winner posted:

So.... how about war industries of the second world war? This thread has enlightened me about the feudal mess that was the Nazi administration, but how did, say, the Italians perform?

I don't have much to add but here are some numbers from Adam Tooze's Wages of Destruction:







dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Nenonen posted:

Just how was the Crimean War portrayed in the British & French :freep: MSM :freep: back then? This intrigues me because it was the era of the rise of modern press, but if I think of the Murdoch media of the time I find it hard to see them standing for Turkish Empire, even if the Russian Empire probably wasn't hugely popular either.

There are some news archives online if you want to see for yourself:

https://www.google.com/search?q=crimea&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&gl=uk&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1850,cd_max:1859&tbm=nws&tbas=0&source=lnt

eg

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=cdBFAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nREDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1274,2063323&dq=crimea&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BVBEAAAAIBAJ&sjid=07EMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5645,122576&dq=crimea&hl=en

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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I'd like a good single- or multi-volume history of the pacfic theatre in WWII. Where should I start?

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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folgore posted:

What were the demographics like for the rank and file of the Army of Northern Virginia during the ACW? I assume the leadership were mostly Southern aristocrats, but what about the average infantryman? I'm reading Battle Cry of Freedom and find it remarkable how this army kept its cohesion in the shittiest conditions while the CSA government was having difficulty retaining troop numbers elsewhere. I guess this is also asking the probably complicated question about why so many poor, non-slave holding white men were willing to give up everything for the Southern cause.

This is from the appendix of General Lee's Army: From Victory to Collapse by Joseph Glatthaar:



Technical details about the sample and how it was analyzed here:

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http://i.imm.io/16gOV.png

Some of the tidbits from the book, getting to an answer to your last question: One-third of the people who served in the army or their families had slaves, and almost half lived in a household that had slaves. Moreover, slave owners frequently "lent" slaves to many of the poorer Southerners who couldn't afford slaves themselves.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Just finished Halberstam's The Coldest Winter. Q: was Ned Almond really as incompetent as portrayed in this book? Was Ridgway really as awesome as Halberstam makes him out to be?

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dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

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Someone in this thread may be interested in this: I proofed George Thompson's 1869 The war in Paraguay: With a historical sketch of the country and its people and notes upon the military engineering of the war. It is available through google books, but the OCR was terrible, so I fixed it up: kindle format, epub format. I was surprised by how well the book holds up: it appears that most modern writers simply used Thompson's book as a template and then started adding other sources to it, without changing much of what Thompson wrote in the first place.

Thompson's own story was interesting: he went to Paraguay to help build the railroad, but joined the army once the war started. Because Paraguay lacked specialists in modern technology, he became the chief army engineer almost by default (in the book he talks about how he learned the trade on the fly, studying from two books on military engineering that he found somewhere). He was also a sharp observer, and provided most of what we know today about the dictator Lopez's craziness.

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