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Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 2007
A queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples

Back to the sadly neglected topic of silly WWII hypotheticals, what would have happened if the Germans had persuaded the Japanese to declare war on just Britain (and the Netherlands, I guess) in 1940? Assuming that the US still stays out, the Japanese could probably have overrun Singapore and Indonesia even faster than they did in OTL. The Army would still be too tied down in China to pose a serious threat to India or Australia. That leaves the Navy owning the Eastern Pacific and with nothing to do.

Is there any way the Japanese fleet could have sailed to the Atlantic and combined with the Kriegsmarine and Regia Marina to try to knock out the Home Fleet and make Sea Lion semi-plausible?

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Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 2007
A queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples

Caladan Rake posted:

Here's one;


To what degree would you attribute Prussia's (and through it early Germany's) militaristic culture to the actions of the Teutonic Knights in the 13th/14th centuries?

For Reference: The Teutonic Knights conquered much of the area, including much of modern day Poland and the Baltic States (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia). In the process of this they resettled entire villages to, and built fortifications in, strategic locations. By forcing these changes on the local populace, they instilled in them the frame of mind that all decisions made should address any martial concerns first and foremost, over all else.

Thoughts?

Not an expert, but I think your time frame is off here. The Teutonic Knights were more or less finished as a military power by the mid-15th century, and were reduced to a rump vassal of Poland. After the Reformation, they secularized and formed the Duchy of Prussia, which was inherited by the Margraves of Brandenburg.

But Brandenburg-Prussia was a pretty minor power from its formation until the mid-late 17th century. During the 30 Years' War, the country was basically the chew-toy of its stronger neighbors and was repeatedly occupied and devastated - something like half the population died. In the aftermath of the war, there was a string of unusually talented leaders who realized that as a smallish state with no natural defenses, the only way to prevent another disaster was to focus on military capacity above all. "Prussian militarism" started in this era, not earlier.

Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 2007
A queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White

quote:

In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null".

Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 2007
A queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples

Nenonen posted:

I was thinking of the "what if Napoleon..." scenario, not "what if Hitler..." scenario. Though that brings up a good question: just how much damage could it have done? Since there's no way for an air delivery the blast would not be as effective as in Nagasaki.

Hot air balloon?

Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 2007
A queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples

SeanBeansShako posted:

Depends really, in a sense it was the first time the modern countries of France and Great Britain worked together as a solid Military alliance.

Not quite. The later Stuarts were pretty friendly to France, partly because the French had taken in the exiled royal family during the Commonwealth. They worked together in the Third Anglo-Dutch War, among other things. Following the Glorious Revolution, there was basically 150 years of English-French enmity, but the War of the Quadruple Alliance was a brief exception.

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