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Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



What a whiner. Gears was the first shooter I played where getting close to an opponent wasn't an anomaly that lasted a fraction of a second. Imagine that, excitement in a video game.

He's wrong as hell, too. Before Annex got execution rules in Gears 2, the hammerburst had the majority of my kills.

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Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



Fibby Boy posted:

"Hey guys we might wanna stick together. The guy on the other team is pretty good with a gnasher and is gonna require a couple people to kill him." *Everyone else runs off to do their own thing. Everyone dies to the same guy.*

Every loving lobby I got into. Bonus points for getting yelled at in between rounds because I had the audacity to use the lancer/hammerburst.

Edit: If it wasn't that then it was "Alright have the leader hide in this corner that's a bitch and a half to get grenades into and have have everyone guard the entrances."

I see this a lot in pubby matches when there's one man left and like 3 on the other side, they all attack individually and get gibbed.

Someguy
Jul 15, 2001


I said come in! posted:

I agree too, it is balanced. This is a teambased shooter, if you're getting dominated by a very predictable strategy, that's your fault, not the games. The article implies that all it takes for one person to control a game, is to use the gnasher. I've never seen this to be true.

This is the problem with the people that play games these days. No one wants to think critically about a videogame. You have the rare individuals that want a game based on skill and strategy, but for every one of those type of players you have 100 more who just want instant gratification. No 'team work' or 'learning how to play to get better', they are the 'press butan win game' players. You see the same thing in other games like BF3, where developers are having difficulty balancing the game around the competent players and the 'casual' players (which is a misnomer really since you can be a casual player but still a competent player that doesn't need everything handed to you).

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Fibby Boy posted:

I never bought fortifications after maxing out all of them and neither did any of my friends simply because there was no point in it. They died way too fast and didn't do much to stop enemy progress. Actually wait, I still by the silverback because I don't have it maxed out and gunker waves piss me off.

Also, I agreed with that article linked.

How do you not find the HOD or Mortar Strikes useful? If you have 5 Command Centers at the ready for Boss waves and use them all back to back you'll have nearly nothing to deal with.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005


Ill just leave this here... http://kotaku.com/5902752/cliff-ble...dium=socialflow

AmbassadorFriendly
Nov 19, 2008

Don't leave me hangin'


I'm not surprised that he has nothing interesting to say about comics. Or that he really likes The Boys.

Fibby Boy
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


Liku posted:

How do you not find the HOD or Mortar Strikes useful? If you have 5 Command Centers at the ready for Boss waves and use them all back to back you'll have nearly nothing to deal with.

"Hammer strike incoming!"
*5 tickers dead and maybe a drone or two.*
Welp. (Happens every single time. Never NEVER have I gotten a boss kill, let alone actually hitting the boss with the strike.)

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


You have to play the right maps, certain maps tend to suck for the HOD like Thrashball. Also call the HOD as soon as the round starts and you hear the Locust scream (that's when they spawn), because when they spawn they're bunched together and you have better chances of each strike getting more kills.

Also we managed to kill a Brumak with a Mortar strike once, no clue how that happened or if it was a fluke.

Hactar
Aug 8, 2004

Coup de Grace


Gears of War has “literally the worst writing in games”.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



Hactar posted:

Gears of War has “literally the worst writing in games”.

The original blog post for that is gone now. The Cliffster wins again.

"This one's for you, haters."~~

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


Hactar posted:

Gears of War has “literally the worst writing in games”.

Can't read that article at work, but I honestly can't agree more with the title. Them basically saying "All your questions will be answered" and how satisfied and complete things will feel at the end of Gears 3, only to be told that the most vital portions of the plot, portions that the in-game character's themselves question, is basically left ambiguous on purpose. Why is Myrrah human and undisputed Queen of the underground and its inhabitants? What were the sires and what was the purpose of the lab that held them? How could no one have ever noticed any of the underground activity and the fact there was an entire ecosystem of creatures that could both dig and fly? There can be boatloads of cool speculation, but none of it has a concrete answer because it was written that way.

The game is based off of implied epic scale and story. The setting, characters, and themes all give off a really important feeling, but there is absolutely nothing to back any of it up, at least reasonably. I'd say the best thing they did was make a good chunk of memorable characters, unfortunately all they can do is scream catchphrases and mannerisms in a very confusing and aimless setting.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



That's how most video games are written these days. I think with games, story always takes a back seat to gameplay. It's just there, presented in cutscenes as a way to give the player a chance to breath in between levels. There are some exceptions to this of course.

I personally don't get bothered by bad storylines in video games anymore. There use to be a time where I would get visibly pissed off, and start screaming in a demonic language (like what Mass Effect fans did over ME3 for example) if one tiny little lore question wasn't answered to my satisfaction. Then I realized the game industry doesn't care, and will never deliver the kind of story telling that gamers really want.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


I think it's more common in the co-op college guy shooters. All you want is a shiny glowing objective to shoot and tear your way through until you can press/destroy/activate it and do the next one with more poo poo to kill. It doesn't leave much room for immersion and developement like you'd find in Uncharted. Granted, they tried harder and did a bit more with Gears 3, but 2 games in it was already too late and the story wrote itself into a dead end.

It's not very common a game makes me feel like I want the main villain to die as much as everyone in the game. The last time I can recall that feeling was with Luca Blight in Suikoden II. Actually, Gears 3 made you feel pretty much like the bad guy at the end, with both sides simply struggling to survive and locusts feeling rightfully threatened by the magical global science purge beam that would kill them as well as their problem.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008

None of you are safe!


Got ourselves a couple of nice 4/20 events today. 5x exp on executions and creepy, crawly horde. Serapedes, tickers, and corpsers all over horde mode. But of course a ton of pubbies are jumping ship as soon as they see how hard it is.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



Personally I simply wanted some answers regarding the overall Gears story.

And anytime it appeared we where going to get it, Marcus would just yell NOT NOW WE GOT poo poo TO KILL, all that tells me is that not even Epic knew how to finish it, hell one of the major reveals was done in a forum.

Understable though, hard work coming up with effects and colors for your guns, who can write doing busy work like that.

shagster104
Jan 3, 2012


I've been playing this slot recently, mostly horde. If anybody needs an extra man feel free to send me an invite. I'm down for anything. GT is shagster104

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008

None of you are safe!


shagster104 posted:

I've been playing this slot recently, mostly horde. If anybody needs an extra man feel free to send me an invite. I'm down for anything. GT is shagster104

Gamertag not valid. Add "lol speedboat" I've been doing a lot of horde recently.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


Alteisen posted:

Understable though, hard work coming up with effects and colors for your guns, who can write doing busy work like that.

Oh no, don't worry, Karen Traviss has no experience making weapon skins or horrible maps so she can take full, unfiltered credit for making a story that goes absolutely nowhere.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



The story is all "there", it just hasn't been explained in any reasonable capacity. A while ago one of the level designers spilled some beans and the time line is something like this - Imulsion miners start developing rustlung, researchers start working on a cure at the New Hope facility, mutagenic effects start becoming more apparent, facility is classified and continues exposure tests, subjects start becoming Sires, things get out of hand and the researchers and Sires are sent up into Mount Kadar (except for the few left in the stasis tanks for later study), Sires eventually become first tamed locusts and little baby Myrrah eventually pops out of one of the researchers.

shagster104
Jan 3, 2012


Speedboat Jones posted:

Gamertag not valid. Add "lol speedboat" I've been doing a lot of horde recently.
Hmm, that's weird. Not sure why it's invalid, but friend request sent. Horde has been kicking my rear end today. It would be nice to play with somebody who actually knows what they're doing.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008

None of you are safe!


Last night I finally learned about chainsawing Corpsers and shooting Serapedes in the face to stun them. That would have been really handy months ago.

Made it to wave 41 last night on Blood Drive during this crazy weekend of mass Corpsers, Serapedes, Wretches, Reavers, and Bloodmounts. Silverback is an amazing piece of weaponry now that we can have rockets on it.

Fibby Boy
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


Ah Pook posted:

The story is all "there", it just hasn't been explained in any reasonable capacity. A while ago one of the level designers spilled some beans and the time line is something like this - Imulsion miners start developing rustlung, researchers start working on a cure at the New Hope facility, mutagenic effects start becoming more apparent, facility is classified and continues exposure tests, subjects start becoming Sires, things get out of hand and the researchers and Sires are sent up into Mount Kadar (except for the few left in the stasis tanks for later study), Sires eventually become first tamed locusts and little baby Myrrah eventually pops out of one of the researchers.

Even better, all the big mean locust creatures are just mutated animals. Brumaks? Big fat gorillas.

So is this gonna be the last horde event? Tired of them messing with horde. I just want it back the way it was at launch.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008

None of you are safe!


Fibby Boy posted:

Even better, all the big mean locust creatures are just mutated animals. Brumaks? Big fat gorillas.

So is this gonna be the last horde event? Tired of them messing with horde. I just want it back the way it was at launch.

I haven't played since launch really, but have they just not been updating that event announcement calendar on the main menu? They didn't even announce this weekend's event and it's still showing entries from back in December.

Fibby Boy
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


Speedboat Jones posted:

I haven't played since launch really, but have they just not been updating that event announcement calendar on the main menu? They didn't even announce this weekend's event and it's still showing entries from back in December.

Oh no they update it. They just do a piss poor job at it.

shagster104
Jan 3, 2012


If anyone is interested to run through raams shadow, feel free to send me an invite. I only need act 3 completed in 4 player Co op.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


Looks like they've run out of event ideas. Now you get to vote on what the weekend event will be. It's Torque Bow Tag this week

DoYouHasaRabbit
Oct 8, 2007


KingShiro posted:

Looks like they've run out of event ideas. Now you get to vote on what the weekend event will be. It's Torque Bow Tag this week
I haven't played in like a month. I feel a bit guilty but did they come up with any interesting ones? You'd think they wouldn't run out since the game can be customized so much.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


DoYouHasaRabbit posted:

I haven't played in like a month. I feel a bit guilty but did they come up with any interesting ones? You'd think they wouldn't run out since the game can be customized so much.

Not really. The only one I liked was the one last week where you start with a Boomshot and Digger. Most of their events revolve around "shotgun only" variants of current gametypes.

Get Gnashty was good practice though if your shotgun game is weak.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Online Encyclopedia



So the Xbox Live dashboard is saying that a lot of GoW3 stuff is on sale in the marketplace - am I better off just getting the Season Pass for 2400 points and getting everything, or grabbing the 2 add-ons that are on sale?

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


It really depends on how much Gears you play, if you only want RAAM's Shadow it's worth picking up on sale, but it's short, you only get to play as RAAM twice and the story is forgettable. If you're not into multiplayer or Horde mode I wouldn't bother with the rest of the map packs. There's some fun achievements if that's your thing too, some grindy and some require 5 players.

So basically if you play a lot of Gears it's worth it, otherwise, eh.

The Duke
May 18, 2004

The Angel from my Nightmare



I just picked up RAAM's Shadow during the sale. It's disappointing you only get to play as RAAM twice since I just finished the second portion last night before quitting so I'd have something to play today. It's a pretty decent length (about 3-5 hours depending on player skill). If you enjoy Gears and the idea of controlling a boss for a couple of short sections, the rest being the typical firefight scenarios present in the rest of the game (only not playing as Marcus) than go for it. You also get a bunch of new horde/multiplayer skins and an exclusive brown tiger gun camo.

As someone who's not going to buy the horde command pack or any of the multiplayer exclusive content I'd say it was worth it.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Figured this is worth the bump. The new Game Informer cover features two Onyx guards escorting a prisoner, so looks like a new Gears of War title is getting ready to be announced.

Personally I hope it has more to do with the Pendulum Wars era, but who knows, it could just be a Gears game for Kinect at this point.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Kifisonfire posted:

Figured this is worth the bump. The new Game Informer cover features two Onyx guards escorting a prisoner, so looks like a new Gears of War title is getting ready to be announced.

Personally I hope it has more to do with the Pendulum Wars era, but who knows, it could just be a Gears game for Kinect at this point.



Uhhh hmm. Seems kinda early for something like this, don't you think? Gears 3 isn't even a year old yet. To think the beta was only a little over a year ago. I mean if the cover is as black and white as the story, it'll be about when Marcus was arrested during the P-Wars and all that.

I have a gross feeling in my gut knowing Rod Fergusson will have reason to get more face time from game press in the coming months/year...

Chick3n
Jun 26, 2005
My mum says I’m cool.

Kifisonfire posted:

Figured this is worth the bump. The new Game Informer cover features two Onyx guards escorting a prisoner, so looks like a new Gears of War title is getting ready to be announced.



Yep.

quote:

We can confirm that our next cover is the new installment in the Gears of War series and is coming to Xbox 360.
Also waiting for you on Monday is a teaser trailer jammed with sneak peeks at our month of online Gears of War coverage.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...ars-of-war.aspx

Coming to Xbox 360 is interesting. A new Gears game this year seems too soon and I had assumed there would be a new Xbox at the end of next year.

Hactar
Aug 8, 2004

Coup de Grace


The Crusher posted:

I have a gross feeling in my gut knowing Rod Fergusson will have reason to get more face time from game press in the coming months/year...
The current popular theory is that People Can Fly will be making this, as their sequel got canned and presumably the EPIC chaps are all working on Fortnite now.

Edit: Not to say that Rod won’t have input on it or putting his face in our faces.

Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008


Lots can be inferred from that picture, but I think it excludes the Pendulum Wars now, because even though you can see buildings on fire in the back, you can ALSO see flying Reavers....

Hactar
Aug 8, 2004

Coup de Grace


Vietnamwees posted:

Lots can be inferred from that picture, but I think it excludes the Pendulum Wars now, because even though you can see buildings on fire in the back, you can ALSO see flying Reavers....
Well with it showing the guy in cuffs my guess would be Marcus, who was imprisoned after the Locust invasion.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Also you're putting a lot of faith in Epic following their own fiction.

The announcement has reminded me that I haven't played Gears 3 in loving ages. I haven't done any of the DLC except one playthrough of RAAM's Shadow. Is it still easy to find matches? I'd love to get some achievements sorted for Horde and Beast.

Jzmisgoo
Sep 15, 2007

Jzm IS goo!!

Maybe the first half is killing other humans, and then the second half is "Oh no bugs!" and then Marcus goes to prison.

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Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008


Hactar posted:

Well with it showing the guy in cuffs my guess would be Marcus, who was imprisoned after the Locust invasion.

Oh, did the Locust appear during the Pendulum Wars? Sorry, it's been a while so I'm not 100% on all the GOW lore. I thought the Pendulum Wars were WAY before the events of GOW, like maybe before Marcus was even born.

Maybe they'll have a level where you get to see a Hammer of Dawn satellite actually launch.

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