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Wesley Walker
Nov 12, 2006



How does spotting work anyway? Do you have to press a button or does it just happen if you fire on somebody?

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KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


Wesley Walker posted:

How does spotting work anyway? Do you have to press a button or does it just happen if you fire on somebody?

Aim at them and press in the Left Stick.

Houdini
Sep 13, 2007


Official terrible game purchaser of the SomethingAwful forums.


KingShiro posted:

I found my role in the game already. I play mostly defensively and just spot and pepper people with the Hammerburst. It works wonderfully because MY K/D BRO is always around/over 5.0

I earn loads of points by running out of spawn and shooting people through the ironsights. I can usually down one person before they've made it out of their quarter of the map, and then I get assists from anyone else who dies.

Wesley Walker
Nov 12, 2006



Houdini posted:

I earn loads of points by running out of spawn and shooting people through the ironsights. I can usually down one person before they've made it out of their quarter of the map, and then I get assists from anyone else who dies.

On that note, it'd be nice if the game showed assists on the scoreboard. The other major shooters do, and I think assists are a lot more common in this game.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


During a game on Checkout I was getting 4 pointed (As much damage as you can take without going into downed state) across the map by something, which ended up being the Boltok. It does stupid damage.

It now seems impossible to mantle kick someone who has a Sawed Off, so I don't do that anymore now.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



KingShiro posted:

During a game on Checkout I was getting 4 pointed (As much damage as you can take without going into downed state) across the map by something, which ended up being the Boltok. It does stupid damage.

It now seems impossible to mantle kick someone who has a Sawed Off, so I don't do that anymore now.

I got headshotted from behind by anya bot with the boltok in a KOTH map last night.

But yea the snub pistol has been heavily depowered and the boltok is just a death cannon now, I think its just 2 shots for a down now.

Houdini
Sep 13, 2007


Official terrible game purchaser of the SomethingAwful forums.


Yeah, the boltok is insane. I got about five kills in a row with that just by shooting at people from across the map.

The SMG also owns by running and gunning too.

cadmaniak
Nov 21, 2006

Le God


I wish you could spot more then one person at a time.

DoYouHasaRabbit
Oct 8, 2007


Alteisen posted:

I got headshotted from behind by anya bot with the boltok in a KOTH map last night.

But yea the snub pistol has been heavily depowered and the boltok is just a death cannon now, I think its just 2 shots for a down now.
Boltok has always been powerful as long as you fire a few shots and get active reload up.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!


My only experience with the boltok was on oldtown, I found the spawn and went "oh neat the revolver I remember this gun". I picked it up, then a locust came from behind and I thought I still had my shotgun out so I tried to snapshot him and accidentally headshot him.

It was my first and only kill with it.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


http://twitter.com/#!/GearsViking/s...261088652857345

For all of you upset about matching up against level 30+. Dunno how much of an actual difference it will make, but there you go. Also they said they rolled out more servers today, so there should be better capacity.

Jzmisgoo
Sep 15, 2007

Jzm IS goo!!

Geight posted:

My only experience with the boltok was on oldtown, I found the spawn and went "oh neat the revolver I remember this gun". I picked it up, then a locust came from behind and I thought I still had my shotgun out so I tried to snapshot him and accidentally headshot him.

It was my first and only kill with it.

I grabbed the boltok on Checkout and headshotted 3 dudes from across the map. Felt pretty pro, until I got shanked by a retro.

kater
Nov 16, 2010


Wesley Walker posted:

On that note, it'd be nice if the game showed assists on the scoreboard. The other major shooters do, and I think assists are a lot more common in this game.

Assists feel flat out broken in this game. You seem to get points no matter how long ago you hit someone. I mean, I've always disliked strict assist systems, but there's also a point where it's absurd.

If they are going to be so lenient about the assists they should count captures where you are nearby zoning instead of clogging the point.

Houdini
Sep 13, 2007


Official terrible game purchaser of the SomethingAwful forums.


Anyone having trouble with their load out sticking today? I keep getting dropped in games as a Drone/Marcus with the gnasher and the lancer.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


kater posted:

Assists feel flat out broken in this game. You seem to get points no matter how long ago you hit someone. I mean, I've always disliked strict assist systems, but there's also a point where it's absurd.

If they are going to be so lenient about the assists they should count captures where you are nearby zoning instead of clogging the point.

If you shoot someone and someone else kills them before they recover, you get points equal to the percentage of life you took off (so dealing half health with a rifle and then having them gibbed by a teammate will yield a +50 assist).

If you shoot someone and they RECOVER before they die, and they die at a later time, you get roughly 1/3 of the points in damage dealt (so dealing half health, then having them die later after recovery would yield roughly +17 assist).

If you spot an enemy with the marker on them as they die, you get a +30 point assist.

If you down an enemy, they revive, and then die some time later, you get no assist. You only get the +50 for the down.

It's to encourage people to shoot at an enemy, no matter how little or how much damage you deal. The problem I see with a lot of people is they have a clean line of sight, yet prefer to rush in for the big meaty satisfying and risky kills. If you have a lancer or hammerburst, you should shoot at someone from long ranges even if you can't secure the kill and especially if they are preoccupied.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



Houdini posted:

Anyone having trouble with their load out sticking today? I keep getting dropped in games as a Drone/Marcus with the gnasher and the lancer.

You mean public or ranked? In public games if someone else/a bot isn't already using your character model, it'll pick one that's already in use until the next match. I don't know about the guns though, I never have that issue.

Shadow225
Jan 2, 2007

Your bones don't break, mine do. But for some reason, you and I react the exact same way to sacks. We hit too fast, we choke. We get some in our head, we drown. However unreal it may seem, we are connected, you and I. We're on the same curve, just on opposite ends. They called me
Mr. Glass.


Okay, I need you goons to make me a better player somehow. I'll add the meta tag in a second, but my GT is Big Boswell

Wesley Walker
Nov 12, 2006



The Crusher posted:

It's to encourage people to shoot at an enemy, no matter how little or how much damage you deal. The problem I see with a lot of people is they have a clean line of sight, yet prefer to rush in for the big meaty satisfying and risky kills. If you have a lancer or hammerburst, you should shoot at someone from long ranges even if you can't secure the kill and especially if they are preoccupied.

This is a pretty cool idea, but it's why they need to feature assists more prominently than just by adding a few points. Like I said already, Halo and CoD already show your assists right next to your kills. I don't see why Gears wouldn't as well.

Thanks for the explanation though. I'm glad you get an assist for tagging. That was the best part of Battlefield BC2.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



I wish my teammates would get out of the Gears mentality of just holding your shotgun out until enemies get close and then trading deaths. You spawn with your choice of 3 weapons that can drop people at range, why does no one use them?

DoYouHasaRabbit
Oct 8, 2007


So I was playing Team Death Match and my team was at their last life and they all decided to hide in the bathroom. All 4 of them. What the gently caress? How can people be this stupid?

Rei_
May 16, 2004

The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective


Ah Pook posted:

I wish my teammates would get out of the Gears mentality of just holding your shotgun out until enemies get close and then trading deaths. You spawn with your choice of 3 weapons that can drop people at range, why does no one use them?

They're all kind of terrible honestly. Every game I played in last night NO ONE was using those guns. They were going for the other guns or just rushing with chainsaws.

Hactar
Aug 8, 2004

Coup de Grace


I was using the Retro Lancer but I finally got the retail gold skin unlock; I forgot how good the Hammerburst is
Not that the Retro Lancer isn’t good, of course, but it’s nice to have a long range and a short range weapon again.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

Ah Pook posted:

I wish my teammates would get out of the Gears mentality of just holding your shotgun out until enemies get close and then trading deaths. You spawn with your choice of 3 weapons that can drop people at range, why does no one use them?

Because almost everyone plays execution which means that ranged weapons are for the most part useless. Some people are still in that mentality I guess.

Greed
Apr 28, 2008


Ah Pook posted:

I wish my teammates would get out of the Gears mentality of just holding your shotgun out until enemies get close and then trading deaths. You spawn with your choice of 3 weapons that can drop people at range, why does no one use them?

When the second week started and all the pre-orders beta players started, we named it the "unlocking of the scrub gates." Every kid would stick to shotgun only while my team would just lancer everyone to death, it was glorious.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



Would I get a beta code if I preordered with Amazon? Gamestop is a long rear end drive for me

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


Capn Beeb posted:

Would I get a beta code if I preordered with Amazon? Gamestop is a long rear end drive for me

I don't believe so, but you might check with doing so from Game Stop online.

I think everyone really needs to try the hammerburst. It may not be for everyone, but it's the most versatile gun and can down someone from the Thrashball concessions to the grenade spawn in about 3 seconds with zoom and steady aim. The people who do use it against me shock me because I'm getting red from who the gently caress knows where in no time at all. Really its only downside is the 20 bullet magazine, and even then you can reload it very fast (if you choose to not get the actives).

DoYouHasaRabbit
Oct 8, 2007


The Crusher posted:

I don't believe so, but you might check with doing so from Game Stop online.

I think everyone really needs to try the hammerburst. It may not be for everyone, but it's the most versatile gun and can down someone from the Thrashball concessions to the grenade spawn in about 3 seconds with zoom and steady aim. The people who do use it against me shock me because I'm getting red from who the gently caress knows where in no time at all. Really its only downside is the 20 bullet magazine, and even then you can reload it very fast (if you choose to not get the actives).
This. I run around with hammerburst all the time instead of a shotgun. I can rely on the hammerburt even if someone is in my face. Definitely is saving my k/d ratio. I end up with the least deaths in the match just because it's so easy to hang back and pick people off. People still rush you even when you do have ranged weapons.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011



Tagging is the best thing they've added. It wins games. Very helpful in KotH matches. I just need people to play with because playing alone and trying to carry a team by myself like the old days doesn't work anymore.

Wesley Walker
Nov 12, 2006



My GT is Team RELIGION. I'd love to play with anybody in here, I'm tired of pubbies. My only problem is, because of roommate issues, if it's later at night I won't be able to talk. But I can listen and follow!

kater
Nov 16, 2010


Hactar posted:

I was using the Retro Lancer but I finally got the retail gold skin unlock; I forgot how good the Hammerburst is
Not that the Retro Lancer isn’t good, of course, but it’s nice to have a long range and a short range weapon again.

They should just remove the crosshairs from the Retro when you aim down the sights. It's not like you are going to do anything, and having any reticule pop up just breeds negative enforcement.

Hactar
Aug 8, 2004

Coup de Grace


kater posted:

They should just remove the crosshairs from the Retro when you aim down the sights. It's not like you are going to do anything, and having any reticule pop up just breeds negative enforcement.
Well the reticule gives the feedback about decreasing accuracy, which should get the point across

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


Ah Pook posted:

I wish my teammates would get out of the Gears mentality of just holding your shotgun out until enemies get close and then trading deaths. You spawn with your choice of 3 weapons that can drop people at range, why does no one use them?

This is why my team had a hard time finding a 5th competent player. They all want to do that and it's not a good strategy for TDM at all. If you're going 10 and 15 you're not listening to what we say and you are just making us work harder.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Dropped into 3 games today, all on the losing side with people who clearly don't know how to play Gears and 0-1 down. Third time I was dropped into the second game again.

I love playing Gears on my own.

Pees With Boner
Jun 7, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post


I just submitted a preorder on the Gamestop website, are they going to email me a code or something?

This is going to be awesome, it's the first Gears release since I got a 360. I played through the other two with friends, it's a great series

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


I'm in awe that they made the latency issues even worse. I didn't think it was possible. Well done Epic!

Wesley Walker
Nov 12, 2006



RBA Starblade posted:

I'm in awe that they made the latency issues even worse. I didn't think it was possible. Well done Epic!

What are you having problems with exactly? Unless I've been the host literally every single match, I've had no issues at all.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


Wesley Walker posted:

What are you having problems with exactly? Unless I've been the host literally every single match, I've had no issues at all.

It takes noticeable time between pressing the trigger down and actually firing or running, I'm getting shot from areas I couldn't be unless I or the enemy is not where we are on my screen, I'm getting killed before I go around the corner where the enemy fires the gun, killed after my point blank instant kill weapon, well, point blank instant kills the guy (by the same guy, who wasn't aiming in my direction at the time I fired), etc. Basically everything in Gears 2 but ramped way up. I'm having fun with the game, but it's starting to irritate me.

Houdini
Sep 13, 2007


Official terrible game purchaser of the SomethingAwful forums.


Capture The Leader is playable today. It's a really fun game to play but pubbies will not defend you at all even though you are constantly marked on the map. It only seems like Thrashball has enough space to camp if you capture the other team's leader.

You get to play as the Locust Queen and some guy if you're the COG team.

Jzmisgoo
Sep 15, 2007

Jzm IS goo!!

Houdini posted:

You get to play as the Locust Queen and some guy if you're the COG team.

Chairman Prescott, the guy who made the big ol speech at the beginning of Gears 2.

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Pees With Boner
Jun 7, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post


edit: nevermind I got a beta code in an email literally five minutes after I posted this

Pees With Boner fucked around with this message at Apr 29, 2011 around 14:37

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