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Psion
Dec 13, 2002



The Crusher posted:

Also, the shotgun is now a client side weapon instead of host. So if you shoot at the host and they kill you first, your bullets don't magically suck back into the gun, they will come out even when you're dead. Shotgun mutual deaths are pretty common it seems like.

No no no no no I cannot handle the idea of them making good decisions stop this Crusher STOP IT

I'm still not convinced they needed to re-add pop shots. I mean at this point who's really having "trouble" coming over from Gears 1? Gears 2 has been out since November 2008. :p

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The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Wow. first 2 hour session that I have not screamed at host (who is hard to pick out) OR the shotgun. This update won't make you better at Gears 2, but the shotgun is better without being overpowered and it does everything you think it should now. All those shots connected, killed, and worked. I'm a happy camper so far.

Psion posted:

I'm still not convinced they needed to re-add pop shots. I mean at this point who's really having "trouble" coming over from Gears 1? Gears 2 has been out since November 2008. :p

Tell that to the hundreds of babies who complain and moan that Gears 1 is superior to 2 for silly reasons, most of which dealing with the shotgun. This is the first time I have EVER seen the Gears 2 official forums have its players give a resounding thumbs up. If you're bad with the shotgun now, there's no helping you.

The pop shot is probably my favorite change, second to the spread difference. No more restrictions to when your shot should hit and when it won't. I know I love Gears, but I can say with no bias this is the most useful update Epic has worked on and I can't wait to have my regular buddy over for some sweet split-screen wingman.

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Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



Psion posted:

I'm not sure I can handle the idea of a competent Gears of War title update.

There's gotta be a hidden catch ...

There is! During games with execution rules, you can no longer kill people who are down with the snub pistol. This is somehow considered an "exploit fix".

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


I've tried playing Gears 1 again (I have one of those friends who still only plays it) and it's like Gears on turbo mode, you go so fast.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Good thing to hear in the GI hub update's audio interview with Cliff and Rod, the on screen cross hairs scale when you fire now, giving you a sense of the spread when you're firing (Just like every FPS has done in the past 10 years.). It's apparently more useful for indicating that the pendulum lancer needs to be fired in bursts, being the most inaccurate weapon. I like little tweaks like this though, hope they keep coming up with nice ideas and no one suggests rag doll smokes.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Rod Ferguson just twitted this tweet on twitter today:

quote:

GearsViking: Off to playtest our E3 demo...today is a good day!

I'm really hoping this alludes to playtime for the visitors and not just watching Cliff and whoever slog around in campaign. Either way, good to know we can expect some gameplay in the next 13 or so days.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



From the first (I think) video: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/...audio-tour.aspx

Does anyone else notice a more than passing resemblance between Adam Fenix and Vladimir Lenin?

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Ah Pook posted:

From the first (I think) video: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/...audio-tour.aspx

Does anyone else notice a more than passing resemblance between Adam Fenix and Vladimir Lenin?


Guess it was part of the fix they planned for the game near the bottom:



"Don't see no Russians nowhere"

Also, as of just an hour ago, Rod says:

quote:

Joe just tweaked matchmaking to be even stricter in determining what is a good match. It may increase wait times a bit but will reduce lag. Also, after looking at all the feedback, we've tweaked the shotgun range. It should only be less effective at extreme ranges.

All sounds good to me. Despite the shotgun not being given a damage upgrade, the better spread and client side hit detection turned it into a mini sniper at times. I don't know if they are just getting all the feedback and playtesting they can for Gears 3 or what, but they have been whipping out changes like crazy.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005


So lag isnt as bad after this patch? I havent played the game since RDR came out.

Also, I laugh everytime i see Cliffy B, he looks like one of those guys made over for the mystery method tv show.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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OrangeCrush posted:

So lag isnt as bad after this patch? I havent played the game since RDR came out.

Also, I laugh everytime i see Cliffy B, he looks like one of those guys made over for the mystery method tv show.

I think the worst I've ever had since the patch was a French host with a full 1 second of lag. That's the worst game I've had since the patch release last month. I have not had a Mexican host since and it feels great.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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In honor of E3's weekend, Gears of War 2 will be offering 6x experience for a whole week, from June 14th-21st. If you've ever wanted to have a chance at getting that level 100 achievement, this is probably the best shot you'll have for a while.

igtenos55
Jun 14, 2001



Hell yeah. I'm level 81 and it's a drag.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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igtenos55 posted:

Hell yeah. I'm level 81 and it's a drag.

If you've got friends to speed up the process, the quickest way more than likely is to do insane horde on wave 1 again and again and again. 6x exp is kind of a misnomer though, as the exp was permanently upped to 2x exp a long time ago, so I THINK 6x means 3x of what we are getting now. Regardless, 1 insane wave of horde is 500 exp and multiplied by 3 is 1500 exp. If you and some friends can kill the 8 or 10 enemies in wave 1 in a few minutes, you'll be getting about 15-20 full games worth of exp in one hour.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



The Crusher posted:

In honor of E3's weekend, Gears of War 2 will be offering 6x experience for a whole week, from June 14th-21st. If you've ever wanted to have a chance at getting that level 100 achievement, this is probably the best shot you'll have for a while.

This has to be like the hundredth bonus XP weekend

I sure hope Cliffy and Company have realized - all these bonus XP events seem to indicate it - how loving stupid adding an XP curve that insane to a game was, doubly so since they did it, what, four months after launch? And of course no credit was given for games played prior, not even a "we'll give you like 200 xp per game played just to jumpstart you" or anything.

but yeah I did horde boosting to 50 and that was boring as hell but it got me what I wanted, so

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Psion posted:

This has to be like the hundredth bonus XP weekend

I sure hope Cliffy and Company have realized - all these bonus XP events seem to indicate it - how loving stupid adding an XP curve that insane to a game was, doubly so since they did it, what, four months after launch? And of course no credit was given for games played prior, not even a "we'll give you like 200 xp per game played just to jumpstart you" or anything.

but yeah I did horde boosting to 50 and that was boring as hell but it got me what I wanted, so

for what its worth, exp means absolutely nothing other than achievements. It's not like you unlock anything at all. In fact, the only thing a high level does for you now is guarantee you become the leader in guardian before the lower levels, and who the gently caress wants that?

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Kies mij!

quote:

A pivotal character in the Gears of War comic books, Jace Stratton will be voiced by Grammy-nominated hip-hop artist Drake and not Ice-T as some thought, following his online UStream slip at the beginning of the week.

"When Epic came to me with the role, I couldn’t pass it up," said Drake, whose hip-hop debut album 'Thank Me Later' goes on sale this Monday. "They’ve created an amazing character in Jace, and I’m looking forward to my tour in Delta Squad."

Gears of War 3 adds four-player co-op to cater for the new additions to the squad - including Jace - when it ships in April 2011. Naturally, we'll be bringing you more from E3.



Maybe that Ice-T rumour is real?

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



The Crusher posted:

for what its worth, exp means absolutely nothing other than achievements.

I like achievements
I think one where Epic says "yeah you gotta play this game day in for two years" (which is what the estimates were for Level 100) mean they should be hit in the balls with a hammer for two years day in, day out. That's all I'm saying here.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005


Psion posted:

I like achievements
I think one where Epic says "yeah you gotta play this game day in for two years" (which is what the estimates were for Level 100) mean they should be hit in the balls with a hammer for two years day in, day out. That's all I'm saying here.

Dont you also have to buy the maps?

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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OrangeCrush posted:

Dont you also have to buy the maps?

Yeah, but considering they are half price and Rod Ferguson tweets literally 10 or more free "All Fronts" codes a day since the TU6 update, that shouldn't be much a problem.

Can't wait til E3 so I can post interesting things in here.

igtenos55
Jun 14, 2001



Man, I posted about some shotgun inconsistencies I've been having on the Gears forum, get flamed by trolls, and then banned for "trolling." Yay.


I couldn't really tell what was going on in the E3 GoW3 demo, but I did like the return of the Berserker.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

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...and DEVIL!


igtenos55 posted:

Man, I posted about some shotgun inconsistencies I've been having on the Gears forum, get flamed by trolls, and then banned for "trolling." Yay.


I couldn't really tell what was going on in the E3 GoW3 demo, but I did like the return of the Berserker.

I hope berserkers are more interesting than they were in Gears 1. By the time you fight the one on the train I wanted nothing more to do with those bitches.

sorend jierkinhaard
Apr 13, 2007

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Game looks like it was designed in an Idiocracy alternate universe.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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For anyone looking, here's the Gears of War 3 demo played at E3. I'll update the OP with information later (I'm going to pick up a buddy to play wingman here shortly...)

At first I thought I heard Marcus say "Ticker!" near the beginning, but on second look he says "Digger!" and you can see a fast moving projectile kicking up dirt like a jet-ski in water that blows up that carmine next to him with a frag-like beeping just prior. How apt that that boomer shouts "Dig!" before every shot. And holy gently caress, the ramming speed on the Pendulum Lancer, now seemingly named the Retro Lancer, looks faster than a goddamn roadie run! It's a chainsaw on steroids. There's gotta be one hell of a repercussion for getting shot out of that. The explosions look way more massive too, but the kicking over cover looks weak as hell. I hope that doesn't become another stupid thing to scream at during multiplayer, I already don't know how that will fit in overall.

Still, they showed off a lot of the little additions like weapon swapping, tagging meatshields and kicking them off, and even kicking a lambent you chainsaw to prevent explosion damage. No Sawed Off shotgun footage though, at least from Marcus. Pretty cool stuff, I noticed the movements of the characters are way more fluid, even Marcus' hair reacted to his movements. I'm an excited gay little baby.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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I can't wait to leave 1 person left down but not out while 2 or more people do nothing but swap weapons between each other until he either bleeds out or revives to be melee'd back down.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



The Crusher posted:

For anyone looking, here's the Gears of War 3 demo played at E3. I'll update the OP with information later (I'm going to pick up a buddy to play wingman here shortly...)

At first I thought I heard Marcus say "Ticker!" near the beginning, but on second look he says "Digger!" and you can see a fast moving projectile kicking up dirt like a jet-ski in water that blows up that carmine next to him with a frag-like beeping just prior. How apt that that boomer shouts "Dig!" before every shot. And holy gently caress, the ramming speed on the Pendulum Lancer, now seemingly named the Retro Lancer, looks faster than a goddamn roadie run! It's a chainsaw on steroids. There's gotta be one hell of a repercussion for getting shot out of that. The explosions look way more massive too, but the kicking over cover looks weak as hell. I hope that doesn't become another stupid thing to scream at during multiplayer, I already don't know how that will fit in overall.

Still, they showed off a lot of the little additions like weapon swapping, tagging meatshields and kicking them off, and even kicking a lambent you chainsaw to prevent explosion damage. No Sawed Off shotgun footage though, at least from Marcus. Pretty cool stuff, I noticed the movements of the characters are way more fluid, even Marcus' hair reacted to his movements. I'm an excited gay little baby.

That was loving awesome.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



I think the Gears of War 3 presentation for E3 is happening in 20 minutes (???) http://www.youtube.com/e3

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Ah Pook posted:

I think the Gears of War 3 presentation for E3 is happening in 20 minutes (???) http://www.youtube.com/e3

Yep, supposed to be showing off "Beast" mode. Thanx for the link, hope they use the sawed off shotgun and someone glitches off the map.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Holy poo poo.

Beast mode is reverse Horde mode: You can play as wretches, tickers, kantus, boomers, even berserkers to take out AI cogs and silverbacks.

Holy poo poo.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



The Crusher posted:

Holy poo poo.

Beast mode is reverse Horde mode: You can play as wretches, tickers, kantus, boomers, even berserkers to take out AI cogs and silverbacks.

Holy poo poo.

There was also some new thing that looked like a Kantus with armor on its back, using a boltok. Nice.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Ah Pook posted:

There was also some new thing that looked like a Kantus with armor on its back, using a boltok. Nice.

I saw Dizzy... Yes.

I saw Tai getting ripped to shreds... Double yes.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Updated the OP. Just to set the record straight until the videos get uploaded, Beast mode allows you to pick from a wide variety of locusts which have different roles, controls, weapons, and uses; basically like a class system. Tickers are just for blowing up all over enemies, wretches are agile and good for quick swipes, Kantus can use gorgon pistols and inks as well as mass revive bipedal allies, etc. You get tickets throughout the game which judge how many times you can respawn as well as what you can respawn as. It's a 5 player horde mode, locust style.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

No whammy, no whammy, no whammy...

The Crusher posted:

Updated the OP. Just to set the record straight until the videos get uploaded, Beast mode allows you to pick from a wide variety of locusts which have different roles, controls, weapons, and uses; basically like a class system. Tickers are just for blowing up all over enemies, wretches are agile and good for quick swipes, Kantus can use gorgon pistols and inks as well as mass revive bipedal allies, etc. You get tickets throughout the game which judge how many times you can respawn as well as what you can respawn as. It's a 5 player horde mode, locust style.

This sounds loving AWESOME.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

The Crusher posted:

Updated the OP. Just to set the record straight until the videos get uploaded, Beast mode allows you to pick from a wide variety of locusts which have different roles, controls, weapons, and uses; basically like a class system. Tickers are just for blowing up all over enemies, wretches are agile and good for quick swipes, Kantus can use gorgon pistols and inks as well as mass revive bipedal allies, etc. You get tickets throughout the game which judge how many times you can respawn as well as what you can respawn as. It's a 5 player horde mode, locust style.

4 Player, at least according to the IGN interview.

At least epic has given me a reason to play gears 3 for a week, although I kinda wish you could do locust vs cog a la l4d survival mode.

The Crusher
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Crustashio posted:

4 Player, at least according to the IGN interview.

At least epic has given me a reason to play gears 3 for a week, although I kinda wish you could do locust vs cog a la l4d survival mode.

I got 5 players from a stickied thread in the official Gears forums, but I'll ask around for some confirmation.

At the very least, we see a berserker mauling a silverback into little pieces. I would imagine if you can control a berserker, then controlling a silverback outside of campaign isn't entirely out of the question. But like Ah Pook mentioned, i'm curious to find out what the razor-backed kantus fella was. That looked sick as hell.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

The Crusher posted:

I got 5 players from a stickied thread in the official Gears forums, but I'll ask around for some confirmation.

At the very least, we see a berserker mauling a silverback into little pieces. I would imagine if you can control a berserker, then controlling a silverback outside of campaign isn't entirely out of the question. But like Ah Pook mentioned, i'm curious to find out what the razor-backed kantus fella was. That looked sick as hell.

Huh, mabye it's five. IGN won't let me go back and check the live poo poo again. The cliffster talked a lot about how it isn't really finished/balanced yet.

igtenos55
Jun 14, 2001



I like the idea of Beast mode.

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The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Crustashio posted:

Huh, mabye it's five. IGN won't let me go back and check the live poo poo again. The cliffster talked a lot about how it isn't really finished/balanced yet.

Someone replied saying Cliff stated in the interview "You and 4 friends..." while the IGN says "You and 3 friends...", So yeah. We'll wait for the vids to help with any confusion. Regardless, 10 months to go before the game's release and they are already showing as much as they did prior to Gears 2's release which only had a few months. Like Cliff said, Gears 3 has no stupid tag line, they just want to make it the most fun and most polished Gears game yet. I hope they hold true.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebG3SWm4C38 Beast mode gameplay at E3. It looks so fast paced and loud.

Looks like they're calling the gorgon a "gorgon SMG" now, so they're doing away with the drawn out burst fire and just making it a hand held lancer of sorts.

Edit: I didn't even realize... That armored Kantus is dual wielding boltoks.

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Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



The Crusher posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebG3SWm4C38 Beast mode gameplay at E3. It looks so fast paced and loud.

Looks like they're calling the gorgon a "gorgon SMG" now, so they're doing away with the drawn out burst fire and just making it a hand held lancer of sorts.

Edit: I didn't even realize... That armored Kantus is dual wielding boltoks.

This is awesome, Gears 3 can't come soon enough. I hope the A.I is smart so players will actually have to work together.

I think I'll be a Kantus, I prefer support roles. And dibs on Anya in multi.

Goddamn I really hope they can avoid major issues, I'd hate for the game to be practically unplayable till like the 4th patch.

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The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Alteisen posted:

This is awesome, Gears 3 can't come soon enough. I hope the A.I is smart so players will actually have to work together.

I think I'll be a Kantus, I prefer support roles. And dibs on Anya in multi.

Goddamn I really hope they can avoid major issues, I'd hate for the game to be practically unplayable till like the 4th patch.

I'm crossing my fingers too. But to take my mind off that, here are some screens that actually do the game justice:









The rest can be viewed HERE.

The Crusher fucked around with this message at Jun 17, 2010 around 01:47

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