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The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Alteisen posted:

I have you on my list already and I'm rather curious as to what you can teach.

I figure there must be some trick to the drat shotgun, least I hope there is.

As they guys who spent hours glitching out of maps and perfecting hip-fire mortar duels, I'm sure we can teach you something new.

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Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



Sounds good to me, I'll be on tomorrow most of the day I imagine.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


I'll be gone most of tomorrow and trying to re-download all my poo poo onto this new xbox, but we'll be around.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Siroc posted:

Finally got into a decent group and went from 47-57 in about 4 KOTH rounds. I'd probably be 60 if a dick didn't kill all of us to end the match in two rounds. Watch out at the end of rounds for killers.

I'll be on later- about 9:30et. Msg me if you want to group.
Same thing happened to me, although it was with a stuck frag and killed EVERYONE. Pretty funny really. Then the host quit.

I'm 71 at the moment. Sorry to whoever invited me last night, that was literally right after everyone was killed and I just had enough for the night. I'll be on most of today though trying to knock these wings out.

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Ah Pook posted:

How do you get to level 100 without at least a familiarity with the shotgun? Have you practiced with it at all since TU6? At least now you don't have to play the lag guessing game with your shots like you used to.

I haven't played Gears since the 8x EXP bonus and I was just boosting then too. I'm not trying to become pro or anything at Gears, but it's annoying when the whole match devolves into everyone using shotguns.

Mogador
Nov 3, 2007



Alteisen posted:

Sounds good to me, I'll be on tomorrow most of the day I imagine.

Buongiorno! I am finally back from Italy and ready to play some gears (or borderlands or anything).

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


What, exactly, is the point of XP in Gears anyway? Does anything get unlocked, other than arbitrary achievements?

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Liku posted:

I haven't played Gears since the 8x EXP bonus and I was just boosting then too. I'm not trying to become pro or anything at Gears, but it's annoying when the whole match devolves into everyone using shotguns.

Gears is an an extremely varied community... There are those on the official forums dedicated to removing stopping power from the game because it makes the lancers "too powerful" and turns the game into a campfest.

Mogador
Nov 3, 2007



Is anyone doing that koth-boosting still? im level 25 now and would love to get at least 50 before exp weekend ends.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Mogador posted:

Is anyone doing that koth-boosting still? im level 25 now and would love to get at least 50 before exp weekend ends.
That's like 2 matches of boosting (Assuming they do it right). Just join a random social KOTH and start swinging your smoke so people know you aren't a bot.

Got in my first stable game just now, no random killings, no ADD kids. Then of course I lagged out near the end of the final round

Mogador
Nov 3, 2007



Kifisonfire posted:

That's like 2 matches of boosting (Assuming they do it right). Just join a random social KOTH and start swinging your smoke so people know you aren't a bot.

Got in my first stable game just now, no random killings, no ADD kids. Then of course I lagged out near the end of the final round

Aha, but i still dont really know how to do it, am i just supposed to interfere after they captured something?

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Mogador posted:

Aha, but i still dont really know how to do it, am i just supposed to interfere after they captured something?
Pretty much. One team will cap the point, the other breaks it then steps out again, repeat. Just have your shotgun out for the third round, it tends to turn into a clusterfuck at the end.

Mogador
Nov 3, 2007



Kifisonfire posted:

Pretty much. One team will cap the point, the other breaks it then steps out again, repeat. Just have your shotgun out for the third round, it tends to turn into a clusterfuck at the end.

I only get bot-games when i search for social games. Feels like im doing something wrong.

Siroc
Oct 10, 2004

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!


Mogador posted:

I only get bot-games when i search for social games. Feels like im doing something wrong.

Keep at it. The first time I tried it took 30 min to find a good group.

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Plavski posted:

What, exactly, is the point of XP in Gears anyway? Does anything get unlocked, other than arbitrary achievements?

Just the achievements.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Now that the weekend is nearly over it's hard to find a game with some dickhead who already has their wings blasting everyone with shotguns. Awesome.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


Liku posted:

Just the achievements.
Shame. I suppose it's good in a way though as I don't feel bad playing Metro 2033 instead.

Ah Pook
Aug 23, 2003



Alteisen posted:

I have you on my list already and I'm rather curious as to what you can teach.

I figure there must be some trick to the drat shotgun, least I hope there is.

Well, for example shooting over cover at someone else taking cover on the other side is not intuitive at all. It's not really a "trick", but there are certain positioning and aiming circumstances that you should know.

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Kifisonfire posted:

Now that the weekend is nearly over it's hard to find a game with some dickhead who already has their wings blasting everyone with shotguns. Awesome.

I can help fill spots if need be if you'd still like to boost.

I really hope that Gears 3 has a button that lets you switch the hand you're holding your gun with and thus the camera angle. A lot of the time it would have helped to have the camera over the character's left shoulder but the only way that's feasible is when you're in cover. It proved useful in Army of Two and the same would go for Gears.

igtenos55
Jun 14, 2001



Well, after having host quit 6 matches in a row and not getting XP, I finally got my Wings without boosting. Now I can just put this game on the shelf and be done with it. I hate the last patch.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB


igtenos55 posted:

Well, after having host quit 6 matches in a row and not getting XP, I finally got my Wings without boosting. Now I can just put this game on the shelf and be done with it. I hate the last patch.

What do you hate about the latest patch? I mean, having a shotgun with reliable spread and client side hit detection certainly can't be it.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005


man come play with the goons, we have a great group almost 7 nights a week, its a ton of fun. I am consistently the worst on our team, but I still manage to have a blast.

Sire Oblivion
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


I played a couple great games with Goons last night and it was fun just talking with each other and utterly dominating. The shotgun still drives me up the loving wall though. Countless times I've been downed at range by a shotgun because it'll do more damage to me than I can do to others with the Hammerburst.

The shotgun is better at range than an assault rifle.

Still up to play though.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Liku posted:

I played a couple great games with Goons last night and it was fun just talking with each other and utterly dominating. The shotgun still drives me up the loving wall though. Countless times I've been downed at range by a shotgun because it'll do more damage to me than I can do to others with the Hammerburst.

The shotgun is better at range than an assault rifle.

Still up to play though.

Yeeeah that's something that everyone actually complains about now. At first, the community wanted the shotgun to be stronger and better, and now that it has better hit consistency and instant spread-reduction during aim (used to take a full second for the tight spread to kick in), It has become a very deadly mid-range weapon that people complain about. I don't think it would hurt my feelings if they either widened the spread or nerfed the damage past 10 feet.

In other news, an hour long video of the Gears of War 3 panel at Comic-con featuring Rod, Cliff, Karen Traviss, Carlos (Dom), Lester (Cole), Michael (Carmine), and others. There's a really funny live action video about 36 minutes in where a Carmine tries to buy life insurance. Mostly talking about the franchise as a whole, with their books, figures, and comics coming out, and taking guest questions.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


Just finished up the Gears 2 campaign and really quite enjoyed it. There's a noticeable dip in quality/creativity about 2/3 of the way in, but I felt it picked up nicely towards the end.

One question though, what the gently caress is Imulsion? I only played a few hours of the first game (I will eventually go back to it) so forgive me if it's answered there.

igtenos55
Jun 14, 2001



The Crusher posted:

What do you hate about the latest patch? I mean, having a shotgun with reliable spread and client side hit detection certainly can't be it.

I know people say this, but in my experience, it just isn't true for me. If I had a gamebridge or a way to record at all, I swear I would. I can walk up behind someone, hold LT, and shoot them point blank 3 times, then they just turn around and one shot me. Then, on Fuel Station for example, I'll be Hammerbursting from the top of the stairs and some joker will switch from his Lancer to the Gnasher and shoot once and down me while he's at the bottom of the stairs when I'm missing no health.

I must just have terrible luck or something. I've been playing since Gears 1 released and I was actually pretty happy with where the shotgun was at (and the added stopping power in Gears 2 was great as well). But no, Epic has to listen to all the whiners on their forums who complain about using assault rifles in a cover-based game.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Plavski posted:

Just finished up the Gears 2 campaign and really quite enjoyed it. There's a noticeable dip in quality/creativity about 2/3 of the way in, but I felt it picked up nicely towards the end.

One question though, what the gently caress is Imulsion? I only played a few hours of the first game (I will eventually go back to it) so forgive me if it's answered there.
It's pretty much just an energy source that happens to be extremely volitile. It's explained a little better in the original Gears, so by now I think Epic just use it as if everyone knows what it is now.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Yep, imulsion was a cheap energy source that the human race was waring over (In the pendulum wars) before the locust struck. It powers the hammer of dawn and the lightmass bomb from the first game. Prolonged exposure to humans develops a sickness called rustlung and prolonged exposure to locusts and similar beasts causes them to mutate into lambent, giving them explosive properties.

Houdini
Sep 13, 2007


Official terrible game purchaser of the SomethingAwful forums.


Imulsion, aka "all that juice".

If you leave Gears 1 on the start screen for a while, you get a video that explains the Pendulum Wars as well.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary


The Crusher posted:

Yep, imulsion was a cheap energy source that the human race was waring over (In the pendulum wars) before the locust struck. It powers the hammer of dawn and the lightmass bomb from the first game. Prolonged exposure to humans develops a sickness called rustlung and prolonged exposure to locusts and similar beasts causes them to mutate into lambent, giving them explosive properties.
Ah good, then I picked up most of that from the game I guess. No doubt the origins of the Imulsion will be key to Gears 3's plotline and how infecting it with some form of retro-virus will kill off the Lambent that rely on it, while leaving the planet energy free and back to a pastoral existence, will be the order of the day.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTej6r_miYg

Another long video of Beast Mode. Near the middle of the video, it looks like the auto-aim on melee might have been toned down. The Grenadier seems to only connect when facing right at him. The barbed wire blocking off some walls seems to be passable, but deals damage and slows you to a crawl (dodge rolling through it looks like bullet time) if you don't destroy it.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



The Crusher posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTej6r_miYg

Another long video of Beast Mode. Near the middle of the video, it looks like the auto-aim on melee might have been toned down. The Grenadier seems to only connect when facing right at him. The barbed wire blocking off some walls seems to be passable, but deals damage and slows you to a crawl (dodge rolling through it looks like bullet time) if you don't destroy it.

This is the 3rd beast mode vid I've seen today and they all have horrible butt rock spliced in, why do people do this?

Hell someone's actually trying to talk in this one.

Also I'm glad that the issue of violence toward the women in the Gears universe seems have been resolved, as I just saw a grenadier rip Anya's arm off and beat her to death with it.

Obviously I don't condone violence toward women but war is hell after all and it would have been even more sexist to not include them, quite frankly I don't even understand why some people brought it up.

Also they aren't auto-healing in that video.

Alteisen fucked around with this message at Jul 27, 2010 around 00:12

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Kies mij!

Huh apparently there will be 4 player co-op this time.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



Davincie posted:

Huh apparently there will be 4 player co-op this time.

They revealed this in the game informer that had Gears 3 on the cover a few months back, from the sounds of things you switch between different people with Marcus and Dom being the only ones that stay, like you start with Jace and Anya, then it might be Sam and Anya, then Cole and Baird, poo poo like that.

I'm interested in the PvP right now, especially that new shotgun.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Have RAAM and Skorge been confirmed for Beast mode? I want to walk around with a troika cannon blasting the poo poo out of Stranded.

The Crusher
Aug 12, 2007

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Alteisen posted:

They revealed this in the game informer that had Gears 3 on the cover a few months back, from the sounds of things you switch between different people with Marcus and Dom being the only ones that stay, like you start with Jace and Anya, then it might be Sam and Anya, then Cole and Baird, poo poo like that.

I'm interested in the PvP right now, especially that new shotgun.

In that SDCC panel video i posted earlier, Cliff describes the sawed off gun saying "If you're close range and someone is within your 180 degree frontal view, you will see red mist.". Rod also explains its a gun for those, like himself, who are not as skilled with the gnasher up close and is balanced by having only one bullet per shot and a slow slow reload. So basically, it's easy to get kills with, provided you can get up close and shoot, but it probably wouldn't save you in a 3v1 like the gnasher would.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



So umm.

Do you post here THEBESTNICKEVE?

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



Someone thought they could do the first Gears 3 trailer better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsI...player_embedded

I have to admit, the choice of music is very good.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


I'm about to finish Gears 2 so I picked up the first one on sale today at Gamestop since I never finished it, how does it compare to 2 in terms of length?

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blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

FLAVA FLAV!!!!!

Soul Glo posted:

I'm about to finish Gears 2 so I picked up the first one on sale today at Gamestop since I never finished it, how does it compare to 2 in terms of length?

Shorter, quite a bit shorter if I am not mistaken. Its only 5 Acts I think and the last act is only 1 level.

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