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evilweasel posted:I find the more axiomatic and obvious a point of law is, the harder it is to find a cite on it. It's infuriating when you cannot find a cite for something because nobody has ever argued that up was down, and gotten a court opinion on it. Yeah my sov citizen issue was when they filed a counterclaim after the case was over. There is plenty about not being able to file motions after, but shockingly nothing that says well no, you can't just file stuff without asking for lease of court afterwards. My other sov citizen motion was his motion to quash with the first line stating that the last order, barring him from filling motions, had no jurisdiction.
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Alaemon posted:Edit: What I'm saying is that clerking for a trial judge still amounts to the practice of law and, therefore, suffer any wrong that can be done to you rather than come here. In other news, I have been voluntold that, as part of their orientation, I am to give our fresh-faced young babby associates a presentation on how to keep time properly. I literally get yelled at every single month about my failure to properly enter time, which of course means I am qualified to do this.
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Soothing Vapors posted:This is what it all boils down to "Make something up"
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 22:20 |
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I have set the draft to 9PM EST on Thursday, speak now or forever be stuck with whatever the autodrafter gave you.
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 22:23 |
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"Just leave all your narratives blank, no one will mind" vvvv hahaha, more or less
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 22:23 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:This is what it all boils down to Those who can't, teach.
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evilweasel posted:I have set the draft to 9PM EST on Thursday, speak now or forever be stuck with whatever the autodrafter gave you. Isn't that after the start of Packers-Seahawks?
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 22:29 |
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Isn't that after the start of Packers-Seahawks? Yes,yes it is.
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 22:34 |
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Works for me
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Isn't that after the start of Packers-Seahawks? Oh welp. Tomorrow evening then, as I'm busy on Wednesday.
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evilweasel posted:Oh welp. We shall all endure. Thanks for setting it up.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 00:55 |
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A court clerk in a dusty office schedules a hearing and sends out the notice. The hearing will be in late September, and it is still August. In his cavernous mountain lair, the wild-eyed, white haired partner who smells vaguely of decay enters into a panic. "I NEED THE BRIEF BY MONDAY," cries the beast, his jowls flecked with blood and hatred. The partner's beleaguered midlevel takes the gun out of its sniveling, distended mouth long enough to slur drunkenly: "Monday is Labor Day." In a flash, the subservient creature realizes that -- emboldened by alcohol -- it has failed to show its dark master the proper level of deference. Cringing, it rolls over, exposing its soft underbelly as it kisses its master's boots. "B-but I can have it to you Monday if you need it, sir." The partner chuckles magnanimousy, happy to have a chance to show his true generosity. "NO, NO, CREATURE," it booms. "YOU MAY DELIVER THE BRIEF TO ME FIRST THING TUESDAY. I WANT YOU TO ENJOY YOUR WEEKEND." The happy creature bows and scrapes as it gambols around merrily. "Oh, for joy! I will have to work Sunday and Monday, b-but an entire Saturday to myself?! Master is too kind!" *** Tuesday morning comes, and the creature's efforts have paid off. Sure, its wife is angry and its friends are resentful that the creature had to work most of the weekend, but it has finished its toil. "Master will be so pleased!" it cooes in its warbly, weak voice as it loads the brief into Outlook and dispatches it. The reply comes swiftly. Swifter than imagined! "Master must be as excited as I am about th--" code:
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 18:00 |
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It seems like the only truly miserable creatures here are those working for other people. Not including the government employees, but that's because public service is its own reward
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Left of the Dial posted:Anyways, so I thought I'd be applying for law school this year after working as a paralegal for a while at a BigLaw firm. CmdrSmirnoff posted:public service is its own reward we matter
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Soothing Vapors posted:A court clerk in a dusty office schedules a hearing and sends out the notice. The hearing will be in late September, and it is still August. Congratulations! You're a midlevel associate! edit: that's the moral of the story, right? (I thought you were a first year for some reason.)
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 19:38 |
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Neko Sou posted:Anyone here do wills and estates? I'm looking to jump ship from litigation to transactional stuff and I'm just curious what your guys experience might be. I do wills and estates. I started off in Big Law transactional work, and then made the switch a year ago. As someone else said, it's great work if you can get it, but it's hard work to get into. Most attorneys work in small firms and want people with experience, rather than to train anyone. My way in was good old fashioned nepotism. If you want to work at a fancy firm, handling high-value estates, then a background in tax is definitely a plus. On the other hand, the estate tax exemption is so high now (over 5 million per person) that most estate planning attorneys don't have to deal with many tax issues, because normal people no longer have to worry about paying taxes. I like talking with clients, learning about their screwed up families, and drafting documents to help them solve their problems. It is not a hard area to learn, and generally speaking, it is satisfying work, especially compared to the document grinding I was doing previously. I do worry that my skill-set will become obsolete during my lifetime, due to Legalzoom and Nolo, but there isn't much I can do about that. In California, at least, where everyone who owns real estate should have a trust, even many young people seem to still see the benefit in involving a living breathing attorney.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 20:06 |
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Dean and Associate Dean at Western Law's speech to the 1Ls today. Highlights: "Dean Iain Scott welcomed the Class of 2017 to their official first day at Western Law. He told the new students that their legal education will open doors to a wide-range of careers, not just the traditional practice of law. “The critical analysis, the reasoning, the drive and, the professional and social responsibility that you will develop here will also make you equally well-suited to careers in business, the not-for-profit sector, government and academia,” said Scott. “One thing that we can now say with certainty is that the practice of law is no longer traditional.” Erika Chamberlain, Western Law’s Associate Dean told the new students their class was a varied and impressive one. “Among the incoming class are business entrepreneurs, photographers, an equestrian, chartered accountants, Canadian Forces members, a Mt Everest climber, music teachers, painters, competitive dancers, published authors and five Starbucks baristas,” she said." Even the Dean's acknowledging the jig is up.
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olylifter posted:“Among the incoming class are business entrepreneurs, photographers, an equestrian, chartered accountants, Canadian Forces members, a Mt Everest climber, music teachers, painters, competitive dancers, published authors and five Starbucks baristas,” she said." I hate poo poo like this.
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Left of the Dial posted:Anyways, so I thought I'd be applying for law school this year after working as a paralegal for a while at a BigLaw firm. This made me happier than anything I did at work today.
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Left of the Dial posted:Anyways, so I thought I'd be applying for law school this year after working as a paralegal for a while at a BigLaw firm. So when are you taking the LSAT
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MoFauxHawk posted:I hate poo poo like this. Good news they will have at least 5 employed at graduation.
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olylifter posted:published authors These are the worst. I guess some authors are probably not fuckface douchebags, but the combination of law student + 'published' author = fuckface douchebag.
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olylifter posted:Dean and Associate Dean at Western Law's speech to the 1Ls today. Highlights: First of all, I love how many of those are normal hobbies: photographers equestrian painters competitive dancers Second, I really hope the Mt Everest climber came from a lot of money. First he or she blew through $60,000-$100,000 to climb a mountain, and now he or she will blow double that on a worthless degree. Third, I wonder how many of those "authors" are e-publishing on Amazon.
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A writer says they are a writer. Like, their talent and recreational activity is writing. A "published author" is that guy that won't shut up about how Americans misunderstand sunni-shia divide at parties.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 00:38 |
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To be fair, this is Western Ontario Law so it'll only be 60k-100k on a worthless degree!
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 00:41 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:This is what it all boils down to Seriouspost: dont you lose time left and right delaying entering time? i do mine daily, am on pace to bill just over 2000 this year, and do NOT work 50 hours per week like you do (although occasionally i do work weeks of unending pain/rage). do you think changing your habits in this regard could make your life at least a little less miserable if u want to talk please let me know btw, worried about you man
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Feces Starship posted:Seriouspost: dont you lose time left and right delaying entering time? i do mine daily, am on pace to bill just over 2000 this year, and do NOT work 50 hours per week like you do (although occasionally i do work weeks of unending pain/rage). do you think changing your habits in this regard could make your life at least a little less miserable yeah, absolutely. so many of my problems are self-created
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Haha what a poo poo draft for me. Draft was right in the middle of my sand volleyball match. 7 RB, 5 WRs, and 1 QB. Ok, we'll see how this shakes out in week 1.
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Today, in between the ravening hordes of pro pers, I found myself wondering how I would recognize another goon's motions if they came in front of my judge. Unexplained citation to Pusher v Shover?
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Alaemon posted:Today, in between the ravening hordes of pro pers, I found myself wondering how I would recognize another goon's motions if they came in front of my judge. Unexplained citation to Pusher v Shover? Blood and brain matter on the motion if sv is the movant.
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# ? Sep 3, 2014 04:18 |
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Or in crayon.
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A respectable writing instrument for every occasion.
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SlothBear posted:Or in crayon. I know this has been posted before, but God Bless Texas. http://blog.simplejustice.us/2007/08/30/texas-where-decisions-are-decisions-and-lawyers-are-nervous/ Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp., 147 F. Supp. 2d 668 (S.D. Tex. 2001) “The Court notes that this case involves two extremely likable lawyers, who have together delivered some of the most amateurish pleadings ever to cross the hallowed causeway into Galveston, an effort which leads the Court to surmise but one plausible explanation. Both attorneys have obviously entered into a secret pact-complete with hats, handshakes and cryptic words-to draft their pleadings entirely in crayon on the back sides of gravy-stained paper place mats. . . . FN4. ...the Court cautions Plaintiff’s counsel not to run with a sharpened writing utensil in hand-he could put his eye out. The whole thing is a wonderful read.
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blarzgh posted:I know this has been posted before, but God Bless Texas. Written by a judge who was impeached and is currently in jail. Oh Kent.
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Feces Starship posted:Seriouspost: dont you lose time left and right delaying entering time? i do mine daily, am on pace to bill just over 2000 this year, and do NOT work 50 hours per week like you do (although occasionally i do work weeks of unending pain/rage). do you think changing your habits in this regard could make your life at least a little less miserable There is a chicken and egg thing with this for a lot of people. Yes, not keeping time is a bad habit that in the end causes some additional pain. But people who are miserable with the law do not keep daily time in part because it is just another thing they loving hate. So it causes additional pain by not doing it daily, but you're not doing it daily because it is a source of pain in itself. When I'm "done" for the day, I basically want to get the gently caress out of that office as fast as humanly possible, there have been days where I might have put a bullet in my head before I would stick around and enter a time sheet. And when I drag myself back in the following morning, the last thing I want to do is try to figure out what the hell I did the day before and record it all in its full .25 glory. It's not right, and it is silly in the long run, but I still understand it. Yes, I'm a man-child. Deal with it. (Or wait, I guess I would be the one having to deal with it.)
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CaptainScraps posted:Written by a judge who was impeached and is currently in jail. Oh Kent. He has his own wikipedia page too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_B._Kent Didn't he recently file suit against his jailers for the inhumane conditions of his incarceration? I think he claimed to suffer severe emotional distress due to hearing a nearby inmate being raped. Poor guy - always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
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blarzgh posted:The whole thing is a wonderful read. Oh my you aren't lying. "After this remarkably long walk on a short legal pier, having received no useful guidance whatever from either party, the Court has endeavored, primarily based upon its affection for both counsel, but also out of its own sense of morbid curiosity, to resolve what it perceived to be the legal issue presented. Despite the waste of perfectly good crayon seen in both parties’ briefing (and the inexplicable odor of wet dog emanating from such) the Court believes it has satisfactorily resolved this matter. Defendant’s Motion for Summary Judgment is GRANTED."
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My firm is a mid-size boutique that hasn't been exhibiting a lot of signs of "stability" and "good management" for the past several months. I guess I'm a third year now so I've gotten nibbles regarding lateral positions... how do you know when is the right time to make a move? My "get the gently caress out of law practice" plan is probably to go to a consulting firm, but I'm not ready to pull the trigger on that just yet until I can pay down my loans a bit more.
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the milk machine posted:My firm is a mid-size boutique that hasn't been exhibiting a lot of signs of "stability" and "good management" for the past several months. I guess I'm a third year now so I've gotten nibbles regarding lateral positions... how do you know when is the right time to make a move? My personal opinion, based on very limited experience: the time is always right for a lateral move, when your situation sucks. That said, the quality of your lateral options depend alot on portable clients. If you want to move somewhere that has stability, be prepared to pay for it with your personal space and freedom, if you aren't bringing your own clients.
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