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10-8 posted:Half of the law schools in Chicago are being sued. About time. The plaintiff for the John Marshall suit graduated in May and is suing because he still hasn't found permanent legal employment. If only every law school grad without work sued right after being admitted to the bar... e: Also he's the same guy who compared himself to Rosa Parks when he took his daughter to a Catholic Church despite her being raised Jewish by his estranged ex-wife. http://archive.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/04/judge-rules-that-dad-can-take-daughter-to-catholic-church.html Emanuel Collective fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Feb 2, 2012 |
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# ¿ May 29, 2024 14:51 |
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So I'm one of those very stupid people who got enrolled in law school without researching the job market ahead of time. I did really well in my first semester (3.51 gpa) and I'm at a decent school (Illinois) so I think I'll stick it out. I'm a 1L looking for a real summer job, but I have no idea how to go about the process. I'm working a few hours a week for a friend-of-a-friend's law firm, but I'd like something a little better for the summer. The career office's advice has been useless and their job posting website isn't offering many appealing options: think unpaid jobs with activist groups that have vague job descriptions. What should I be doing?
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2012 07:55 |
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I've already sent out a few letters to firms/judges, but I wasn't sure if there was a better strategy besides spamming my resume. I'm happy with working where I'm at, but the firm has been laying off partners and I'm worried they won't have anything for me to do come summertime.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2012 19:32 |
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A Game of Chess posted:I've mentioned it briefly (and I don't want to go into too much detail), but basically this person showed up at our chambers several times to "serve" us and eventually had to be escorted out by the sheriffs. Also the appeal was such a work of art that I keep a copy in my desk for whenever I need cheering up. When I was clerking for my old firm a 'Moor' filed several frivolous motions in our case. When it was dismissed he reported all the attorneys involved to the ARDC and tried to file a lien on the judge's home. No repercussions. The complaint itself alleged a sufficient 1983 claim, so it couldn't get dismissed. This led to several motions where we were forced to respond to his assertion that Admiralty law should govern, that the court must recognize the Moorish holy book as binding authority, and the plaintiff was entitled to have full control over the City of Chicago's budget. Another 'Moor' was just found guilty on 10 felony counts in Chicago last week for filing frivolous liens on just about every judge in the Northern District of Illinois Emanuel Collective fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Linguica posted:I wonder if some sovereign citizen found out about the whole qui tam "private attorney general" concept and ran with it oh yes. The sovereign citizen case I worked on forced our firm to respond to the plaintiff's assertion that he, as a private attorney general, was entitled to take Chicago's budget and send it to Morocco. I should really find that file.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2014 18:07 |
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all my friends taking the bar today tell me that Examsoft's servers have totally crashed-none of the exam files will upload, can't even get a call through to their help center. What the gently caress does that company do with it's obscene laptop user fees
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2014 00:09 |
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If you're going to buy textbooks: buy the prior version, if one exists. I can't even remember how many classes required version 24 retailing for $200, which contained nothing but grammatical corrections and updated cites from version 23, available on amazon for $10. Use the money you save on hornbooks/E&E.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2015 03:12 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:The secret to not worrying about being called on at all ever in law school is to not go to class
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2015 05:08 |
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law school deans mad about the bar examNYT posted:But that standard, so long unquestioned, is facing a new round of scrutiny — not just from the test takers but from law school deans and some state legal establishments. Some states, including Arizona, Iowa and New Hampshire, are exploring or have adopted other options, questioning the wisdom of relying on a single written test as the gateway to legal practice. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/business/dealbook/bar-exam-the-standard-to-become-a-lawyer-comes-under-fire.html
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2015 00:39 |
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I'm ambivalent re: the bar exam in general but it's hilarious that the NCBE is just now deciding that CivPro is something that should be tested on the MBE
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2015 02:07 |
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nm posted:Phone posting, but the prosecutors apology re: Glenn Ford should be required reading for any prosecutors and supporters of the death penalty. This case is infuriating on so many levels. "Ford, who has always maintained his innocence in the killing, was finally allowed to go free from death row at Angola on March 11, 2014, after the Caddo district attorney's office asked a Caddo district judge to vacate his conviction and sentence. The action came in the wake of information about the real Rozeman triggerman being secured during an unrelated homicide investigation in 2013. Now, the state is saying Ford is not entitled to benefit from the law that allows wrongfully convicted individuals to receive compensation for their time behind bars. There is specific criteria that must be met before there is a payout and the Louisiana attorney general's office says Ford should not receive the compensation because he cannot prove he is factually innocent." Sorry for throwing you on death row for most of your life. Now you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you didn't do it. http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/opinion/2015/03/08/editorial-state-give-ford-real-justice/24514237/
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2015 19:05 |
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There is a unionized employee at the front desk of one of the courthouses I've started going to. She will give them (wildly incorrect) legal advice, tell them (wildly incorrect) procedural instructions, throw away critical court documents, and will occasionally call one of us attorneys to do her job for her.There used to be multiple workers at the desk; all have been shifted away because she was constantly threatening them. A few weeks ago she sent an all caps, barely coherent email about us attorneys not respecting her, that "she ain't our slave", and cc'd everyone from a police lieutenant to the mayor's chief of staff. Her supervisors have related to us that she's wanted her fired for years. After the "slave" email she is now facing her third union grievance in four years. I don't know whether to blame this on the union or on extremely lazy/incompetent counsel representing her employer.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 04:49 |
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blarzgh posted:No offense, but you're never going to be very successful or respected, and its because you're both extremely unlikeable and also not very smart. To be fair, these aren't necessarily damning character flaws for a lawyer. For example: the highest paid lawyer I know once bragged about buying cocaine with a check.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 00:24 |
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we have a live one http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3714640
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2015 22:44 |
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Torpor posted:One of my clients came straight from having a miscarriage of twins at the hospital to my office for a previously scheduled meeting. Now I know that often miscarriages are much harder on the women than the attorneys, but I told her to come back tomorrow, you know, when she was over it. when I was doing municipal prosecutions a woman came in with pictures of her dead baby's footprints & urn, claimed the stress of having her car towed caused a miscarriage, and said "this is what you did to my baby." Go to law school kids!
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2015 00:48 |
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SlyFrog posted:Why on god's earth did I ever sign up for two 8 hour CLEs on Saturday and Sunday? I hate the CLE racket. lol if your jurisdiction doesn't offer webcast CLEs
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# ¿ May 30, 2015 21:30 |
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I've met my CLE requirements the past 6 years solely by playing archived webinars on my slow office days. Sometimes I'll even un-mute them!
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# ¿ May 31, 2015 01:35 |
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Cool, my judge is going to make me respond to a Moorish motion. The motion is demanding that plantiffs be handed over control over the state's budget due to divine authority, and cites primarily to Moorish religious texts.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 03:11 |
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tau posted:So, this happened: Kansas passed a bill that would defund the courts if they declare unconstitutional a law that removed the power of the state Supreme Court to appoint chief judges of state district courts. Has threatening the court (save for when FDR did it) ever worked out in anyone's favor?
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 00:38 |
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welp I was going to complain about a defendant's child running up behind me and kicking me in the shin while I was on the stand today but jesus christ roger
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 00:01 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:She may be a neo conservative shitheel who sees all blacks as criminals, but she's ours. I'm a municipal prosecutor. Ask me about impounding your car.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 00:42 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:That's a really long article for a commitment. Things boring on the island? Hey you're talking about a distinguished former Libertarian candidate for Lt. Governor
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 01:55 |
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sullat posted:That's not from being a lawyer, that's from being a family law lawyer and having to hang around grubby parents and their disease-ridden kids all day. Earlier this year, a defendant vomited an inhuman amount of vomit into the carpet right inside our courtroom's door. The court's custodians refused to clean it up while court was still in session. Go to law school kids
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2015 02:29 |
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2015 18:49 |
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mastershakeman posted:I get so angry every time I see a woman being allowed to wear a hat in court. Especially when it's a dumb hat. was it a Fez
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 18:48 |
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Terrified when I got an urgent email from work at 7pm. Relieved to find out it's a reminder that I need to use 16 days of vacation by the end of the year lest I lose them. Go into government work, law friends.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2015 02:15 |
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Meanwhile in Cook CountyChicago Tribune posted:Cook County Democratic leaders on Friday endorsed 8th Ward Ald. Michelle Harris for circuit court clerk shortly after taking away the party's backing from four-term incumbent Dorothy Brown, who is under federal investigation. Dorothy Brown is in charge of the nation's largest court system. She thinks Robert's Rules of Order determine the validity of contracts http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-cook-county-democrats-dorothy-brown-endorsement-met-1024-20151023-story.html
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2015 21:24 |
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I wish I had the time to sit down and list every cartoonishly inept and corrupt thing Dorothy Brown has done. Emphasis on cartoonish.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2015 22:04 |
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I'll write what I can on Ms. Brown. I preface all this by stating that the Cook County Clerk's office is a notorious even in Cook County as a patronage dump. The Clerk's office is where you go if you somehow fail to meet the minimal job requirements of a patronage worker in any other City/County office. It's been this way for decades. Dorothy Brown somehow made it worse. Brown started out in 2000 by forcing mid to higher level employees to "buy" $100 worth of tickets to her political fundraisers. This was the oldest patronage trick in the book and the media caught wind of it immediately. Brown defended the practice, but was quickly forced to stop. Brown then decided to make money another way: forcing employees to buy tickets for Dorothy Brown's annual birthday and christmas parties. She had court employees form the most opaque shell company ever-literally named "The X Company"-which solicited ticket sales from court employees. The cheapest tickets were over $100. Once you got to the party, you were "invited" to sign Dorothy Brown's party guestbook. In order to sign the guestbook, you had to pay the guestbook's keeper $10. Cash only. Brown defended this practice, but was forced to stop. Brown then decided to make money via "Jeans Day." If you paid $3 a day, you could forego the required dresscode and wear jeans. Suddenly almost every one of the 2000+ Clerk employees were wearing jeans every day. And those who came to work dressed normally would have some explaining to do. The $3 donation was strictly paid in cash and was left in an unmarked envelope. The "Jeans Day" scheme blew up when some disgruntled employees tried paying with a check and got a stern dressing down. Brown defended the practice by claiming that the money was going towards charity, but then said that she couldn't prove it because the payments were strictly off the record. Brown later stopped the practice. Dorothy Brown later decided to dramatically increase the filing fees for every single case in Cook County. This was, in her words, necessary to finally implement an electronic filing/docket system. These fees have been on the books for about a decade now, and Cook County is no closer to having an electronic filing/docket system. The bare-bones electronic system they have is something that coding interns could've built in a semester. drat near everything is still done on carbon paper-carbon paper that Dorothy Brown has said she won't pay for anymore. On the bright side, the firm that got the contract for Cook County's electronic records system has given Brown and her aides tens of thousands of dollars in campaign donations. I dont have time to write much more (and there is much more), but I'll end by noting Brown's latest scheme. She's now facing a federal indictment because a campaign donor sold her husband (who may or may not have been operating a taxpayer-funded slush fund a few years back) a parcel for $1. The husband gifted the parcel to Brown, who then sold it for something like $100,000. Brown is defending the transaction. Emanuel Collective fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 23, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 23, 2015 23:33 |
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The one MPRE seminar I attended was hosted by a guy who played a lawyer on TV. I don't remember if he ever even took the bar
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2015 01:06 |
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nm posted:How to ruin a good state government gig in 1 easy step. You were saying? STL Today posted:A former St. Louis prosecutor covered up a violent assault on a handcuffed arrestee, who was beaten by a police detective who also shoved a "pistol down the guy's throat," according to the prosecutor's guilty plea to a federal charge. http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_8a3ea38d-8021-576a-85a0-aa7d88fe923f.html#.Vi6lOYLofNV.twitter But a happy ending! "Worrell is now in private practice." Emanuel Collective fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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mastershakeman posted:I love (subject to actual hatred) working today and Friday because my commute is so easy. There's no cars on the road today so I get to focus even more on candy crush while I "drive" If you're in Chicago, drat near every cop in the city has been called back to duty in anticipation of protests. These protests aren't happening, so there are bound to be some bored/resentful cops patrolling the streets later.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 21:22 |
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mastershakeman posted:I was going to go with the Hitler shooting through the phone in kung fury gif to represent the cpd's preference for a barrage of bullets rather than one shot one kill An actual quote I overheard between two Chicago cops the other night: "OK, we both know it was 14 shots too many."
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 15:15 |
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Ani posted:Multiple choice questions from third-party publishers can be really helpful, especially for closed book exams. Obviously do practice tests. If you are like most 1Ls you probably think it's more important to fully outline your classes than to do practice tests or other material, but this is wrong. Almost everyone walking into the exam has (or had access to) a fully complete outline for the class - skill in writing exams is what differentiates people. On that point, if you haven't already, pick up a copy of your subject's Examples and Explanations. They're cheap, relatively breezy to work through, and will give you model answers for the questions asked.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 15:43 |
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mastershakeman posted:Meanwhile, critics and experts say the program does little to help the millions of Americans struggling the most with student debt, such as college dropouts owing far smaller sums. College graduates who don’t go on to grad school will see limited benefits because they start out owing a median of about $30,000—a sum often paid off within 10 years. This argument makes no sense. Your average salary with a bachelors degree is a lot lower than your average salary with a professional degree, and people with lower salaries have less disposable income to spare. A $30k debt for someone making $40k a year is a hell of a bigger burden than a $120k debt for someone making $160k a year. And how many people with Bachelors degrees are on traditional 10 year repayment plans anyway? It's also pretty disingenuous to portray PSLF as "subsidizing" anything considering that the federal student loan program is designed to-and does-make a profit. The best criticism I've heard of PSLF is that it theoretically encourages over-borrowing. But 1) the feds already limit the amount of loans you're eligible for, and 2) You have to make 120 payments in full before you qualify for PSLF. A decade of zero disposable income isn't a price any rational person would pay in order to get some loan forgiveness.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 19:20 |
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As an aside, check out what MSNBC/CNN/CBS did this morning. The landlord for the San Bernadino shooters invited news media to hang out in the shooters apartment. Reporters are casually rummaging around, picking up all sorts of documents, showing things like driver's licenses, photographs, and contracts on the air. I imagine the local federal prosecutors office is having a collective aneurysm
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 19:22 |
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If it makes you feel better, the second and third years of law school are only as miserable as you want them to be.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 19:46 |
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:We were on a quarter system. First exams taken in November. Next set at the end of January. Last set in April. Even better: my CivPro professor didn't get our grades in until after our summer associate applications were due.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2015 22:52 |
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A hot tip for any Massachusetts attorneys looking for that big casereddit/r/legaladvice posted:I was BANNED from my local super smash bros melee scene. They use the local community college to host this and TOLD ME BY EMAIL IF I CAME THERE THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW ME IN. This was out of nowhere so I immediately called the TO, who told me why. He said it was because I was frequently toxic and angry. He said that I yell at players and make them uncomfortable and scared, and that a girl quit because of me. While I DO sometimes get frustrated and vocalize it, so do many other people I am simply being discriminated against my voice is naturally deeper than most. also the truth is a girl never quit that is a complete lie, she was just butthurt that she was worst than everyone there. I'm so loving irate. I've been a member of this community FOR YEARS and just now I'm a nuisance? I am entitled to a certain level of RESPECT for being a veteran player. I'm looking into finding a lawyer who get me unbanned. There MUST be a law that prevents people from arbitrarily banning others from certain locations without written documents proving it (the TO just SAID I was banned he did not provide any evidence.) The TO isn't rich or anything so I don't think I would have to ask a lot from him, I think he'd break under just pressure of lawsuit. https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/3wm45e/ma_banned_from_smash_bros/
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# ¿ May 29, 2024 14:51 |
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A sad end to one of my favorite insane cases that make me glad I never went into criminal law: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...er-lawyers-say/ WaPo posted:Foster said the case began when the teen’s 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The case was set for trial on July 1, where Foster said Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Claiborne Richardson told her that her client must either plead guilty or police would obtain another search warrant “for pictures of his erect penis,” for comparison to the evidence from the teen’s cell phone. Foster asked how that would be accomplished and was told that “we just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need.” The teen declined to plead guilty. Foster said the prosecutor then requested a continuance so police could get a search warrant, which was granted by substitute Juvenile Court Judge Jan Roltsch-Anoll. Turns out the detective pushing for the "medically-induced teen boner" warrant may not have been on the level! http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...-362452411.html
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