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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

TheMadMilkman posted:

Carryover from the previous thread:


A related advanced degree (MBA, JD) will take the place of those credits. Chances are you won't be considered for a revenue agent position, since those are accounting intensive, but for a revenue officer or tax compliance officer position your law degree will qualify you. The 6 credits of accounting is basically a way to bump your qualifications over other losers.

I'm a TCO and still in training, but the workload really isn't bad at all. It's glorified tax preparation. But on the first day my manager sat down with me and basically said that I was overqualified, and she didn't expect me to stick around for much more than 90 days. The better jobs (appeals officer, tax specialist, etc.) very rarely take external hires, so coming in as a RO or TCO and moving on within 6-12 months is pretty common.

can you talk about the interview process a lil bit? that's the next step for me (already did the assessment for both TCO and RA), and I have no idea what to expect. just standard behavioral "tell me about a time when you" bullshit?

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

TheMadMilkman posted:

Ha, nothing like that.

If you don't have the required 6 or 12 accounting credit hours, you start with an accounting test. I had to take this, and you can learn everything you need in one night reading an accounting 100 study guide. That is graded immediately, and if you pass you then have a panel interview, either in person or by phone. There's some intro talk, like why you're interested in the position, where you want to live, etc. For the TCO position you are then asked a series of 8 standard questions, which involve some basic accounting questions, some computations, and some customer service. It's a joke and pathetically easy to pass. I was never interviewed for an RA position, so I can't comment on that one, but I imagine it's not much different.

After that, you sit and wait for your conditional offer.

yeah I'm not stressed out about it. on another forum people were freaking out because they got B's and C's on the simulation, which seems impossible unless you clicked the option to call the taxpayer a retard or whatever.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Incredulous Red posted:

While reading con law I was suddenly struck by this thought:

The law is really this big bubble. The bubble is kept inflated and insulated by the outside world by arcane rituals known as "procedure" and a bizarre, self-actualizing force known as "stare decisis"- kind of like vacuum energy in the big bang. The Supreme court is kind of like the wall of the bubble, sometimes expanding, really just serving as a functional barrier between the outside and the artificial world within. But imagine a world where all processes within the bubble stopped, there would be only chaos and freedom and OH GOD KILL ME

thinklikealawyer.txt

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

evilweasel posted:

I think two of them have an actual job.

40% employment rate pretty good imo

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

SWATJester posted:

Lol LLMs and Israel: my school hates Israel so much. The school had movie screenings accepting donations for convicted terrorists, and held fundraisers to give to organizations who then donate to Hamas.

At graduation for the LLMs half of them were listed as "Palestine" as their "country" of graduation, ignoring that no such thing exists.

I love how progressive my school was, except for issues of Israel. They don't realize how many Jewish students they've pissed off who absolutely won't donate anything to the school because of it.

but hating israel is progressive :confused:

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Maggie Fletcher posted:

Hey boys and girls! I've skimmed this thread and haven't found any information to really help me with my query, so here goes.

Does anyone have any information about being/becoming a USAF JAG? I didn't read this thread before applying to law school, so the damage is done (though I wish I had read this thread before applying). I graduated a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the midst of bar study. I sit for the bar in July, and if I can stop browsing SA for five minutes and actually sit down and study, I hope to have my bar card come November (just kidding--I've put in a full day almost, just here on a break). I am facing bleak prospects, but I got a letter from the JAG inviting me to apply.

I went into law school on a patent litigation track, decided patents is too boring, and ended up taking litigation classes. Because of my undergrad degree, I could go into either biotech law or litigation. I could still do patent litigation, but I don't really want to, my grades are poo poo, and BigLaw doesn't appeal to me anymore. But this JAG thing sounds really, really interesting. I know it's not the same as, say, infantry, but at least the military is exciting. I've been bored to tears for three years, and facing prospects of either 100-hour weeks with super-serious patent nerds or sweating it out with smug suit-types in a courtroom, it's starting to look good. I've kind of always wanted to join the military, but wanted to get an undergrad degree first. The law school thing just sort of happened, and it's never been my passion, which my grades clearly show. I think I could possibly really sink my teeth into military work, but I don't really know exactly what it entails. I have looked at the JAG site and read all the FAQs but I'd like to hear more about what it's like, what's required, etc. Once I'm admitted to the state bar, I'd be a candidate, but I'd have to act fast--I'm 31 and you have to be under 35.

If anyone has any information, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
someone in the thread got selected I think but it is ruinously competitive, especially now that the civilian job market is in the toilet. also I note with amusement that you wrote that whole post without mentioning where you went to law school.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

HooKars posted:

Is where you end up completely random or can you select from pretty much anywhere in the nation. I might be interested in learning how to properly embellish my answers.

they post a job opening with a bunch of cities, you can apply for any or all of them. if all of the cities in the posting suck (which they do) you can wait for the next one. if you apply anyway and get rejected, you can wait for the next one. oh also the whole process tends to take for loving ever.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

billion dollar bitch posted:

So I start my Bronx internship on Monday, and am worried about wearing a suit in NYC in the summer. I thought about getting underarmor shirts to wear underneath the button-up; does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing?

seersucker.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Yojimbo Sancho posted:

Just need Althouse to stop updating her loving blog and turn in my con law grade.

when im good and ready!!!
__________________________________/

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

I Am Not Clever posted:

I have a question for all of you law goons. I applied to 3 law schools in the spring and I am currently on the waiting list at all three of them. Waiting is very hard for me; I feel like I should be doing something to improve my chances. I have contacted the schools' admissions departments just to let them know that I am still very interested, but I don't know what more I can do.

I had an exchange with an admissions persons from one school that seemed very promising, but that was a few weeks ago and I haven't heard anything from them since then. He asked me what my status was with the other schools to which I had applied, and when I told him that I was waitlisted at all of them, he was very surprised. He said that he had assumed that I would have received an offer from the top school on my list, already.

My LSAT score was 164; not amazing, I know, but it is well above the average for all the schools to which I applied.

What I don't understand is why this admissions person seemed so surprised that I was waitlisted by a better school than theirs, yet they haven't made me an offer of admission yet themselves.

I'm just looking for any general advice about what to do right now. I want to contact someone in admissions again because it makes me feel like I'm getting somewhere, but I'm not sure what I should write, or if I even should, at all.

Any tips? Thank you.

what a maroon. should have contacted every school to tell them that you had been admitted everywhere else with a tidy aid package, but you were holding out because they were your top choice...

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.
sigh, I'll bite: what are the schools

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

I Am Not Clever posted:

All right, thanks for the help, everybody.

quit crying, you basically came to the thread saying "okay guys I want to hit myself in the dick with a hammer but home depot is all out of hammers, where else should I check?" then people said "no for gently caress's sake don't hit yourself in the dick with a hammer it will hurt" and you said "look that isn't helpful, just assume that I want to hit myself in the dick with a hammer. should I go to lowe's or ace hardware or what"

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Baruch Obamawitz posted:

Scored as in?

Also, I keep meaning to set up a side business doing qui tam false marking cases because that's gotta be the easiest money in the world until they put the clamp down on that.

easier than prop 65 bounty hunting in california? that's where the big money is, none of this piddly $250-a-pop nonsense.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

I Am Not Clever posted:

I had no idea about any of this doom and gloom. If what you're saying is true, it sounds like the legal profession is in very bad shape in this country. :(

That said, I think I'm still going to go if I have the chance. I have an uncle who is an attorney with his own successful small firm. I wasn't planning on going to him and asking for help, but I can, if I have to. He's probably going to retire in a few years.

Seems like a better prospect than going back to work at Walmart. :(

holy moly

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.
I had to brief Palsgraf for class today and I'm not even in law school :psyduck:

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Phil Moscowitz posted:



fnln always gets his

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Lykourgos posted:

literally have never heard of "boalt", am still :lol:'ing at the ridiculous sounding name. expect this reaction from anybody you try to impress in the future with your stupid sounding school name

high class posting itt

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

I'm at work just do it for me you unemployed loser

sfw version

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:

Interjections by Peter Pan's nemesis.

Hook Arrs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdeSh3vLvYI

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

The Arsteia posted:

haha i never noticed that as peter pan he's just wearing a green suit

I'm bummed they didnt include the clip where gob's wife is talking about her seal deal and says "where am I going to find a maritime lawyer?!"

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

CaptainScraps posted:

Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, the Carolinas, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana are the only states where "A beatin'" and "a lynchin'" are acceptable forms of equitable relief.

breach of contract? that's a paddlin'

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

nm posted:

English Bacon looks like this
[timg]http://img.waffleimages.com/f4281a8c38873428ace13c4949e8248d2705406a/bacon_rasher[sm].jpg[/timg]

Having lived in England and eaten their bacon, I can tell you that American bacon is better. But Pancetta is better than all of these.

it looks like a placenta

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Red Bean Juice posted:

this is pretty much my oci experience so far



please make a post with all of these, I still smile when I think of the sad legislative history valentine in the trash can :)

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

evilweasel posted:

what the gently caress amazon canceled my order of that book


aaaaaaaaargh you guys snapped up all the other good ones/cheap ones

efficient breach IMO

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Chakron posted:

I really need to buy archives so I can verify my facts :(

look at this noob who doesn't keep lawgoons.xls updated :rolleye:

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Petey posted:

profit.

heh...

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.
a friend of mine just took the LSAT. he wants to go to lewis and clark. what do I do :(

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.
"I know, little guy. I know you don't want to be a lawyer, you just want to 'work in policy'. now close your eyes, this will only hurt for a second"

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Omerta posted:

I found an outline for LegReg but it spells "canons" as "cannons" throughout the entire outline. I decided I'm gonna skip out on using that one as a framework for mine.

maybe it was actually an outline for maritime law??

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

ewr2870 posted:

Martha Minow is really bad at her job. I miss Kagan.

bad how? she's related to a friend of mine so maybe I can tell her to tell her to shape up

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Alaemon posted:

I've always loved in rem cases. They have the best names.

US v Forty Barrels and Twenty Kegs of Coca-Cola, US v Ninety-Five Barrels Alleged Apple Cider Vinegar, etc.

US v Lucite Ball containing Lunar Material is still the best

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.
RMS Titanic, Inc. v. The Wrecked and Abandoned Vessel, its engines, tackle apparel, appurtenances, cargo, etc., located within one (1) nautical mile of a point located at 41o 43" 32 North Latitude and 49o 56" 49 West Longitude, believed to be the R.M.S. Titanic

in rem case AND admiralty law?? where do I sign????

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

SWATJester posted:

I also got a bunch of threats from a "natural born citizen" the other day too. That was fun.

fortunately it was addressed to "SWATJESTER" not "SWATJester" so it doesnt count

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

JudicialRestraints posted:

Put the letter from the access group in the prepaid envelop northeastern sent you.

Send it.

this is the correct answer.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

scribe jones posted:

this is the correct answer.

actually it's northeastern so the envelope probably isn't even prepaid lmao. hope you have $0.44 left over after buying whiskey!!

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Teddybear posted:

Right, right, point made.

Beyond the magical happy-land unicorns farting rainbows of liberalism best-case scenario (I'm named Teddybear for a reason), I'm also interested in defense law, immigration law, and civil law in NY, MA, or ON. I've still got quite a while before any of this can even be remotely feasible, but I'd like to know what my options are and get disabused of some of my stupid naivety. :)

Did you read any posts in this thread?

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

Red Bean Juice posted:

Here's a thing I put together for the Harvard Law Record.



owns

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.
A tie bar is the thing you clip to the blade of your tie horizontally (or angled down, depending on whom you ask) that keeps your tie from flapping around. A collar pin is the thing you pin to your collar to prop up your tie knot. They both own but are definitely within the realm of foppery so use caution.

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

MaximumBob posted:

I know I'm just a crazy statist but doesn't the implied logic behind that post suggest that taxing people to fund fire departments is an illegitimate function of government from a moral perspective? Because I don't see any qualifiers like "federal" in that quoted bit.

google Ron Paul

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Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.


meeting the red guy for drinks on saturday, think I'm gonna print out some poo poo from this thread to show him. help me law school thread you're my only hope :smith:

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