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padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever


Mr. Funny Pants posted:

It was clever, the action scenes were great fun, and it didn't take itself seriously in the least.

no it wasn't, no they weren't, yes it did

that movie was still absolute poo poo outside the gun parts

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Nostratic
Apr 5, 2003

I need you to be focused.



The Bananana posted:

The hobo test data seems to concur with this.

So which was it, mortar or grenade?

OMGVBFLOL
Dec 20, 2003

....santa?

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

What about Superman? Jesus, a guy flying? What idiots! And Bambi, yeah right, animals that can loving talk, what kind of bullshit is that?

This pretty much sums up my feelings regarding guns in movies. I love TFR dearly and have lurked herein for many years; but drat, you guys really know how to waggle your beardy chinflaps sometimes.

Rodrigo Diaz
Apr 16, 2007

Knights who are at the wars eat their bread in sorrow;
their ease is weariness and sweat;
they have one good day after many bad

Treating criticism, which in most of these cases is criticism of intent vs. execution, as invalidated by some base level of enjoyment is incredibly stupid.

Not Nipsy Russell
Oct 6, 2004

Failure is always an option.


You know, I work with a guy who can go on and on forever about how movies got the weapons right or wrong. He's a WWII reenactor. He'll sperg on about slide releases, uniform piping, and I don't know what the gently caress else. I always felt blessed that, while I likes me some guns, I'm really not distracted by these minutiae when watching movies.

Until This loving Thread. Guns in movies has now become my FedEx Arrow. God drat you, TFR.

With that, below is the sum total of my experience watching The Men Who Stare at Goats with my son last night.


GOOD: Beefy, Iowa corn-fed HSLD contractors get out of their GMC Sierras and immediately lengthen the stocks on their M4geries in preparing to fire on another group of HSLD contractors Operators.

QUESTIONABLE: Also, hilarious scene in which one Operator is working his trigger finger like crazy to make his weapon shoot faster. Do they not get to have full auto in Iraq? Or is this accurately depicting contractors going over with lights, lasers, VFG's, Single point slings and Magpul everything attached to mail order ARs?

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008


Not Nipsy Russell posted:

QUESTIONABLE: Also, hilarious scene in which one Operator is working his trigger finger like crazy to make his weapon shoot faster. Do they not get to have full auto in Iraq? Or is this accurately depicting contractors going over with lights, lasers, VFG's, Single point slings and Magpul everything attached to mail order ARs?

You know those guys who wander into the gun store covered in tactical gear, and call themselves "bounty hunters" and want to talk openly about getting an illegal sear and hang all the stupid accessories off their guns and belts and want nothing more than twin chrome pistols-that-shall-not-be-named riding in their shoulder holsters and who watch John Woo and Stephen Segal movies while they masturbate?

You don't see them much anymore because they all got hired by KBR to provide security in the Middle East.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001



padijun posted:

no it wasn't, no they weren't

Totally subjective, so I won't argue against your lovely taste on those two points.

quote:

yes it did

But here you are just flat loving wrong. It took itself seriously? Like when he smashed a keyboard over a guy's face and the flying letters spelled out "gently caress you." Yes, that seems quite serious. Or when his ATM tells him, "Insufficient funds. You're an rear end in a top hat. You're broke Your best friend is loving your girlfriend. You know it, and you are too big a pussy to do anything about it."

Yes, these scenes and many others are hallmarks of a movie that takes itself seriously.

M.C. McMic
Nov 8, 2008

The Weight room
Is your friend


OMGVBFLOL posted:

This pretty much sums up my feelings regarding guns in movies. I love TFR dearly and have lurked herein for many years; but drat, you guys really know how to waggle your beardy chinflaps sometimes.

Why does some self-righteous goon always have to come into a every single thread which, by its very nature, is supposed to be ridiculously critical of stupid poo poo, and point out that it's ridiculously critical of stupid poo poo?

Did that make you feel better and/or ?

Cool. Now shut up.

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


Curving bullets in the Wanted video game was loving fun.

not a movie but just watched one of the newest episodes of The Bridge (Canadian TV show about cops covering their own asses)

Bad: Cop gets shot point blank with a shotgun and gets lifted off her feet and flies backward to the ground.

Good: That poo poo goes right through her vest and she is now in the hospital.

edit:

Nondescript Van fucked around with this message at May 25, 2010 around 19:31

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008


Mr. Funny Pants posted:

Yes, these scenes and many others are hallmarks of a movie that takes itself seriously.

This whole line of conversation can only go somewhere good.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Oh well looky what what we got ourselves over here.

FERN GULLY FAN posted:

Bad: Cops gets shot point black

I know this is just a typo, but don't let the "I own a gun so I protect myself from "goblins"" folks see this.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

Pulp Fiction was a few pages back, but in the same scene, I like that not only did major car wrecks gently caress up the people involved, but also when Butch was about to shoot Marsellus in the pawn shop, he acted like a person about to shoot a gun inside without earpro.

Also, History is making a show called Top Shot. The graphics look like it's going to be a piece of poo poo. Confirm/deny?

Alaan
May 24, 2005

There's no need for words

Is that the show a few goons tried to sign up for? I know there was some sort of reality firearms show pitch but the ad I saw made it sound a bit different than I remember.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005



Capn Beeb posted:

Crime shows are terrible for this.

Bad: CSI Vegas: Some dude was making AR DIAS in the back of the shop and got caught. Apparently, a DIAS is roughly the shape of an en bloc clip and plops right in the receiver, bypassing the trigger pins, sear, hammer, all that poo poo. PLUG AND PLAY HURRR
This was a while ago, but I'll bet it was actually a Lightning Link and not a DIAS

Captain von Trapp
Jan 22, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

FERN GULLY FAN posted:

Good: That poo poo goes right through her vest and she is now in the hospital.

Is that good? I was under the impression buckshot performed horribly against armor.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Captain von Trapp posted:

Is that good? I was under the impression buckshot performed horribly against armor.

As was I...thought any Level II-ish or higher vest that would stop a normal pistol round would also stop buckshot.

Mirconium
Aug 1, 2009


My good scene comes from the weirdest place ever.

Buffy The Vampire Slayer: featuring accurate bullet casting and an antique elephant gun. Seriously, I was picking my jaw off the floor when I saw that scene in S02E15 when there was a guy hunting werewolves. He actually cast a bullet in a mold that was shaped the way bullet molds are shaped.

And then he shot that bullet out of a double-barreled rifle! That's right, rifle! Like a for realsies big game gun!

Joss Whedon, a fellow gun nut. (Even though the show had a pretty anti-gun stance)

Oh, and a stray bullet actually hits someone for once.

Mirconium fucked around with this message at May 25, 2010 around 20:34

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


Mirconium posted:

My good scene comes from the weirdest place ever.

Buffy The Vampire Slayer: featuring accurate bullet casting and an antique elephant gun. Seriously, I was picking my jaw off the floor when I saw that scene in S02E15 when there was a guy hunting werewolves. He actually cast a bullet in a mold that was shaped the way bullet molds are shaped.

And then he shot that bullet out of a double-barreled rifle! That's right, rifle! Like a for realsies big game gun!

Joss Whedon, a fellow gun nut. (Even though the show had a pretty anti-gun stance)

Oh, and a stray bullet actually hits someone for once.

He tried really hard in a scene from Firefly where they had 'Vera' (really a shotgun?) was enclosed in a space suit because he mistakenly thought a gun needed air to fire in. He did admit his mistake later on though.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Roundboy posted:

He tried really hard in a scene from Firefly where they had 'Vera' (really a shotgun?) was enclosed in a space suit because he mistakenly thought a gun needed air to fire in. He did admit his mistake later on though.

gunpowder and primers in the future suck balls air

Sylink
Apr 17, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!


The Automator posted:


Click here for the full 650x450 image.


I've heard of old ammo, particularly surplus, having squib loads here and there.

Sometimes a bullet WILL push another out. It has happened on occasion.


Is that 7.62x54R?

Fang
Jul 9, 2001

Why couldn't Fluttershy finish her carrot?

She was a little horse

Roundboy posted:

He tried really hard in a scene from Firefly where they had 'Vera' (really a shotgun?) was enclosed in a space suit because he mistakenly thought a gun needed air to fire in. He did admit his mistake later on though.

It's something of a forgiveable airror that doesn't suck gas as much as some. He may have been under pressure when he wrote that scene, or didn't want to have a long-winded explanation. Screenwriting isn't as breezy as it looks, even when one doesn't atmosphere a viewership people by rabid fanboyles who won't be at all oxygentle with your noble efforts.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


You...you got Boyle in there.

Pvt. Public
Sep 9, 2004

I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.

Mother of God...

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Fang, I imagine that, after you type such things, you have a massive nosebleed afterwards from the sheer amount of brain activity

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


i picture Will Farrel in 'old School' doing the debate scene. he just falls backwards and forgets what just happens.

Fang
Jul 9, 2001

Why couldn't Fluttershy finish her carrot?

She was a little horse

Roundboy posted:

i picture Will Farrel in 'old School' doing the debate scene. he just falls backwards and forgets what just happens.

Pretty much this. Last time I did one of these, I woke up naked on top of my house with half a cat.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


Fang posted:

Pretty much this. Last time I did one of these, I woke up naked on top of my house with half a cat.

Which half?

Fang
Jul 9, 2001

Why couldn't Fluttershy finish her carrot?

She was a little horse

I like turtles posted:

Which half?

The front half; it had been concatenated.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009

Man of the Rising Sun


What a catastrophe!

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


Sounds almost unBEARable...

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001



These bad puns leave me with a horrible feline.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Mr. Funny Pants posted:

These bad puns leave me with a horrible feline.

Don't be such a pussy about it.

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


This is purrfect. I would be lion if I said othewise.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


I can't purrport to contribute to this thread, let alone act as a catalyst like Fang. But I think this image is germane on the topic at hand.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Oh well looky what what we got ourselves over here.

Ugh, all these puns are making me catatonic.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001



Enough bad cat puns, can someone give me some lynx to more bad gun scenes in movies?

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008


Hahaha! I'm laughing so hard I'm getting horse!

What? I thought we were doing... you know, an animal thing.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Tonight's episode of Justified...two guys shot execution style in the back of the head; they were sitting in the front of the car. Not only is there a nice splash of blood/brain matter/skull fragments on the windshield, there were two holes punched in the windshield, so we didn't have to deal with the "magical bullet that punches through a skull and then vanishes" problem.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.


Good: Generation Kill. After repeated watching, I still haven't really found a major firearms gaffe.

All hail the Fourty Mike Mike.

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Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008


iyaayas01 posted:

Tonight's episode of Justified...two guys shot execution style in the back of the head; they were sitting in the front of the car. Not only is there a nice splash of blood/brain matter/skull fragments on the windshield, there were two holes punched in the windshield, so we didn't have to deal with the "magical bullet that punches through a skull and then vanishes" problem.

Was everyone still deaf for an hour afterward?

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