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IRQ posted:Yeah I really don't get the comparison. Calvin and Hobbes was all about Calvin's imagination and the adventures he'd have with his stuffed cat imaginary friend. Calvin and Hobbes is philosophical and insightful. As much as I love Adventure Time, it's basically just a 12 year old boy and his dog having some adventures, nothing more. The closest Adventure Time has gotten is with the episode with Marceline's dad, but they pulled their punches at every turn.
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feedmyleg posted:Calvin and Hobbes is philosophical and insightful. As much as I love Adventure Time, it's basically just a 12 year old boy and his dog having some adventures, nothing more. The closest Adventure Time has gotten is with the episode with Marceline's dad, but they pulled their punches at every turn. Yeah even at its most emotional (which was never much of anything) Adventure Time never comes close to things so simple as Calvin snuggling Hobbes, the final strip's ethos, or even the average stuff like Calvin's dad loving with him by making up science, Calvin's mom generally being exasperated, or the snowmen. AT at its best, as much as I like it, doesn't have the wit Calvin and Hobbes had at its worst.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 03:28 |
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Just because something "fills a void" doesn't mean it's equal to it or should come to replace it. It's been a long time since any cartoon's been around that's just about being silly and having fun with your bro. Even if it's not as insightful or meaningful as Calvin and Hobbes, Adventure Time is definitely a show that hearkens back to it in alot of ways.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 03:41 |
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That's cool if it does for you, but I don't see it at all.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 03:44 |
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IRQ posted:That's cool if it does for you, but I don't see it at all. Oh, I'm not saying it does it for me. Calvin and Hobbes is easily my favorite comic of all time, and nothing can really come close to it. That said, though, I can see where the guy who wrote the comment in the first place is coming from. For a generation that doesn't know anything akin to Calvin and Hobbes, and whose cartoons are generic, low-effort, Flash-animated pulp, Adventure Time is about the closest anything has gotten to it. I'm finding it hard to say what I'm intending without going on some crazy rant nobody wants to read, so I'll just kinda end it here.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 03:51 |
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Inspector_71 posted:I think the fact that they picked a boy the same age as Finn means they're gonna stick with him, plus Pen Ward has said they'll just work puberty stuff into the show one way or another. This is good news. It's just so rare for a cartoon to have characters grow up. On Hey Arnold! they would just replace the VAs. And like I said, Finn's VA has some genius comedic timing and I hope he continues to get lots of work in the future.
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This cosmic dance Bursting decadence and withheld permissions Twists all our arms collectively but If sweetness can win And it can Then I'll still be here tomorrow To high-five you yesterday my friend Peace
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 03:57 |
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Matt Cruea posted:This cosmic dance Nobody move! He can't see or hear, but he can feel you!
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 03:59 |
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I had to transcribe it so I could make it my Facebook status. Also it makes me think about how much I need this on Blu-Ray or at least DVD.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:02 |
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SpacePig posted:Oh, I'm not saying it does it for me. Calvin and Hobbes is easily my favorite comic of all time, and nothing can really come close to it. That said, though, I can see where the guy who wrote the comment in the first place is coming from. I'm not trying to come down on you or anything. But I just don't see much similar between AT and Calvin and Hobbes. Calvin and Hobbes was sentimental, witty, clever, had lots of common elements of childhood that many of us share, and relied on a completely different sense of comedy that AT does in that is was very true to life. AT is raunchy, random, ridiculous, probably way more fun if you smoke pot, relies on a vague knowledge of RPGs, and the rarely examined subtext (Finn is basically completely insane living in a nuclear hellscape) is very dark. None of that is present in C&H, which is more whimsical imagination and childish fantasy. Like I said before, I love them both, but I don't see any similarity.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:09 |
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Matt Cruea posted:I had to transcribe it so I could make it my Facebook status. That makes two.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:10 |
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Anybody else pause on the hologram map in the latest episode and notice the landmark that reads suspiciously like "Sex Kingdom"? Or am I just going insane?
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:13 |
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accidental double post. Sorry for the lack of quality but here is a screenshot of what I'm talking about :
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Action-Bastard posted:accidental double post. Sorry for the lack of quality but here is a screenshot of what I'm talking about : "Ice Kingdom"?
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:26 |
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That's "Ice Kingdom" you goddamn pervert. edit: beaten MokBa fucked around with this message at Jan 5, 2011 around 04:30 |
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E the Shaggy posted:"Ice Kingdom"? Not just this, but very clearly this.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:27 |
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E the Shaggy posted:"Ice Kingdom"? poo poo, I think you're right... I'm sorry everyone. 
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IRQ posted:and the rarely examined subtext (Finn is basically completely insane living in a nuclear hellscape) is very dark. You should read A Boy and His Dog.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 04:44 |
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Action-Bastard posted:poo poo, I think you're right... I'm sorry everyone. If it makes you feel better, your post convinced me to drag my roommate into the room and he fell for it too. Then I scrolled down.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 05:31 |
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Oh my god Princess Bubblegum's cupcake dress was amazing. I hope they start selling that along wih thte Finn hat.MelvinTheJerk posted:You should read A Boy and His Dog. The movie's better.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 07:40 |
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You guys refuse to believe me, but I'm convinced that each episode is a youth-addled, A.D.D. filtered, coming-to-grips-with-life scenario. The things Finn and Jake encounter are grown-up life problems, but there's no school or adults around to give it context or help the characters understand it and grow. It's up to the boys to figure it out for themselves, and that means that sometimes they get it, sometimes they avoid it cause it makes them uncomfortable, and sometimes they completely miss what's really going on. Donny is about the burst of the housing bubble and I'll hear nothing to the contrary. 
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 08:05 |
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SlimGoodbody posted:Donny is about the burst of the housing bubble and I'll hear nothing to the contrary. So Donny is the Glass-Steagall act, the why-wolves are naked credit default swaps, and the Cosmic Owl is... complete global financial collapse?
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 08:22 |
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stupid ugly retard posted:The movie's better. Oh no it loving wasn't. Without spoiling it for anyone who hasn't read the short story or seen the movie, the movie completely loving blew it with the last line which completely changed the main character into something far more ugly than he should have been and showed that whoever was making the movie completely loving missed the point. This isn't just my opinion by the way, Harlan Ellison agrees.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 09:22 |
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The last line is absolutely perfect and makes the movie. And Harlan Ellison has been a cranky old man his whole life.
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stupid ugly retard posted:Oh my god Princess Bubblegum's cupcake dress was amazing. I hope they start selling that along wih thte Finn hat. 
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 14:49 |
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I can definitely see a thematic throughline connecting Adventure Time to the parts of Calvin & Hobbes that were in Calvin's imagination. Stuff like Spaceman Spiff, Tracer Bullet, and basically any adventure with the cardboard box. But Calvin just imagined that stuff and the strip didn't exclusively focus on it, while Finn actually lives it because the World of Ooo is so jacked up.MelvinTheJerk posted:This isn't just my opinion by the way, Harlan Ellison agrees. Oh yeah, 'cause that's something that won't make you out to be a petulant whiner.
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stupid ugly retard posted:So Donny is the Glass-Steagall act, the why-wolves are naked credit default swaps, and the Cosmic Owl is... complete global financial collapse? You've hit the nail pretty squarely on the head. If you re-watch the episode, notice the following parts: -The policeman housie makes a bit of a show of trying to arrest the whywolves, but is ultimately powerless and does nothing to punish them. -The first solution to the wolves is to throw them in a well and ignore them until later. -The bank housie gets mangled by a whywolf and literally loses its rear end, only to later be helped up and carried off by a regular "Main St." housie while noting that he'll be okay because his assets were insured. VVV yes, yes, precisely! SlimGoodbody fucked around with this message at Jan 5, 2011 around 17:49 |
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So what I've learned here is that the Glass-Steagall act should never wear pants, no good will come of it
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Action-Bastard posted:They did misspell Haunted Swamp as Haunted Swan though.
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| # ? Jan 5, 2011 17:39 |
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stupid ugly retard posted:The last line is absolutely perfect and makes the movie. Your user name and this quote are perfect. Don't read the next part unless you've read A Boy and his Dog or don't plan to. In the original short story Vic the human and Blood the dog are traveling companions in a post apocalyptic wasteland where dogs are capable of telepathy with their masters. Over the course of the story Vic finds a girl he actually cares for and goes to lengths to save her. In the end she's rescued but Blood is on the verge of death. He desperately needs to eat to live and Vic is faced with a choice: Say goodbye to Blood and start a new life with the girl or kill the girl and feed her to Blood. He chooses to save Blood and with the final line attempts to justify his actions to himself saying "A boy loves his dog." It's a terrible and tragic decision and he feels sick that he was forced to make it, but ultimately his friendship with his dog is more than he cares to lose, no matter the cost. For comparison the last line of the movie is a smart assed quip while the two happily dine on her corpse as Vic states something to the effect of "Well you know, in the end at least she had good taste." Both endings are all kinds of hosed up, but one of those two has a powerful emotional impact on the reader and the other is violent for the sake of being violent and just about as misogynistic as you possibly get. If you're the type of person who saw the last line of that movie and thought "Hell yeah, that was sweet!" Then you're likely a monster that I never, ever want to know and I pray you never have a child or any kind of contact with a woman.
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I read your spoiler because I don't care about reading it or seeing the movie, but would your opinion of the movie ending change if it was A Girl and her Cat? I mean it still sounds dumb compared to the book, but TVIV has such a raging hardon for calling misogyny I'm just curious. fake edit: oh it's Harlan Ellison so it probably was.
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IRQ posted:I read your spoiler because I don't care about reading it or seeing the movie, but would your opinion of the movie ending change if it was A Girl and her Cat? Theres the sequel Vic and Blood where Vic is guilty about killing the girl that he goes into a depressed funk, allowing himself to be eaten by a spider, leaving Blood alone to fend for himself
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MelvinTheJerk posted:Your user name and this quote are perfect. The complaint was that it made the character "too ugly" Well the character is ugly, the whole world is ugly. He never actually cared about the girl, she was just a girl, the dog was the only one he really loved. I'm sorry if that's different from the novella, but it's a much better, more original story. I'd quote Roland Barthes here but I think even he'd agree that Harlan Ellison will never die.
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Citizen Insane posted:Whatsoever tarts exist without my knowledge exist without my consent. You're crazy. Crazy at last. Well, while on the subject of "Adventure Time" (which is what this thread's for ), someone seriously needs to cap that monologue at the end of "The Other Tarts". That ending may very well tie with "It Came From The Nightosphere" as my favorite ending of the season (maybe the show). "The Other Tarts" had a lot of great moments. Cinnamon Bun walking the Tart Road, the armed butterfly, PB getting psychotic, even LSP's non-speaking cameo during the Tart Toter's monologue was funny. Kind of interesting that most of the best parts in the episode had little to do with Finn and Jake though.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2011 06:56 |
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Hey, isn't that horse in the new episode (I think it's new, just saw a commercial for it) the horse from Kate Beaton's comics?? OH YEAH IT IS!! The gowbster frickken called it!! http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/...adventure-time/
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gowb posted:Hey, isn't that horse in the new episode (I think it's new, just saw a commercial for it) the horse from Kate Beaton's comics?? Welcome to last year. Sincerely, 2011
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Macrame_God posted:You're crazy. Crazy at last. Someone sort of already did on YouTube. I think my favourite part about it (currently; it changes with the hour) is the look of horror on the squirrel's face as it twirls away into infinity.
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Citizen Insane posted:Someone sort of already did on YouTube. I think my favourite part about it (currently; it changes with the hour) is the look of horror on the squirrel's face as it twirls away into infinity. For a second I thought you meant the video changed hourly.
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| # ? Jan 6, 2011 22:00 |
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7thBatallion posted:Welcome to last year. Sincerely, 2011 Hey dude that was not righteous.  We always act righteous in the Adventure Time thread!
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Skadi posted:Hey dude that was not righteous. It was playful fun with Gowb. Like stealing a giant's wallet and kicking him in the stomach with a giant dollar glider.
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