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 What is Thief? A game about Thievery! This, like many of my LP's, will be a blind run. I have always wanted to play the Thief games and since you guys asked me to do it, here it is! I decided to go ahead and also stick to my format of playing all the games in a given series and play the entire trilogy of these games. Whoa, Thief Gold is old! 11 Years old in fact! It was a bitch and a half to get the game running let alone what I have to do to edit in the cut scenes and make Fraps happy. I don't understand why this game is such a pain in the rear end when many games that were around way before it (Fallout, Any pre-2000 Blizzard Game, etc.) work fine on modern computers. Way to go Eidos! How will the Videos be Formatted? I plan to make it so that each mission will have its own episode. If a mission takes a long time to accomplish then I will have multiple "parts" to an episode in order to keep things easy to follow for future viewers. I currently plan to limit videos in length to 20 or 25 minutes (hopefully finding a good "stopping point" between multiple points). Also since Fraps can not record the videos or menus in Thief Gold (not sure about the other games), I will have to edit in the cut scenes and such during editing. This means you will likely not have my stellar commentary during cut scenes. Oh well! What else? Well since I have a job with some pretty awful hours right now, updates will not be daily like I did back with Penumbra. I will hopefully have some videos done over the weekends late at night (or very early morning) but you will have to be patient and not expect an update every time you refresh the thread. Sorry! Also, Thief could crap out on me and explode at any minute due to the technical difficulties it has with modern computers so that could add delay in the future.
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Episode List Thief: The Dark Project EPISODE 1 -- Humble Beginnings -- 13:49 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 2 - PART 1 -- Stealth is my Middle Name -- 20:28 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 2 - PART 2 -- When in Doubt, Edit it Out -- 24:55 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 3 - PART 1 -- Jail Bait -- 25:19 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 3 - Part 2 -- Just Like Shawshank -- 28:28 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 3 - Part 3 -- Prison Break -- 26:32 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 4 - Part 1 -- Ladders Suck -- 20:49 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 4 - Part 2 -- Necrophobia -- 20:57 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 4 - Part 3 -- Grazing Burricks -- 21:15 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 4 - Part 4 -- Wandering Aimlessly -- 18:58 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 4 - Part 5 -- Bad Dog -- 27:51 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 5 - Part 1 -- Honor Amongst Thieves -- 31:58 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 5 - Part 2 -- Catching on... Sorta. -- 36:27 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 6 - Part 1 -- My Own Objective -- 36:38 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 2 -- Body Count -- 26:49 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 3 -- Awful -- 21:15 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 4 -- Direction -- 32:34 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 5 -- Luck and Silence -- 40:29 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 6 -- Better Things To Do -- 19:29 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 7 -- Ultimate Garret -- 25:43 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 6 - Part 8 -- Good Riddance -- 20:27 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 7 - Part 1 -- I am Error -- 26:29 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 7 - Part 2 -- Hollywood Movie poo poo -- 25:44 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 7 - Part 3 -- MsPaint Adventure -- 19:52 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 8 - Part 1 -- S-s-s-s-stutter -- 22:51 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 8 - Part 2 -- Who you gonna call? -- 23:45 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 8 - Part 3 -- Torc Hunting -- 24:00 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 8 - Part 4 -- Eye to eye -- 23:33 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 8 - Part 5 -- My Kingdom for a Torc -- 19:07 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 9 - Part 1 -- Running Smoothly -- 24:15 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 9 - Part 2 -- Lost -- 24:29 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 9 - Part 3 -- Water and Earth -- 30:17 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 9 - Part 4 -- Wind, Fire, and a Rock -- 29:05 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 10 - Part 1 -- A Lost City -- 21:52 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 10 - Part 2 -- Ruins -- 21:38 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 10 - Part 3 -- Fire Talisman Mayhem -- 30:00 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 11 - Part 1 -- Beaten To The Punch -- 24:35 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 11 - Part 2 -- I hate Operas -- 24:41 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE11 - Part 3 -- One Talisman Left -- 24:43 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 12 - Part 1 -- The Recruit -- 26:25 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 12 Part 2 -- Alarms Are Annoying -- 26:19 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 12 Part 3 -- The Wind Talisman -- 27:23 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  EPISODE 13 Part 1 -- You Eyein Me, Boy? -- 21:56 -- BLIP TV LINK -- VIDDLER LINK  EPISODE 13 Part 2 -- Brother Murus -- 26:35 -- BLIP TV LINK VIDDLER SUCKS  BLIP TV LINK __________________________________________________________________________________  CLICK FOR VIDEO!  CLICK FOR VIDEO __________________________________________________________________________________  CLICK FOR VIDEO __________________________________________________________________________________  CLICK FOR VIDEO Khad fucked around with this message at Sep 5, 2010 around 18:05 |
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Khad Swear Project by Scandalous (AKA: Thief Trilogy Abridged):      Non-image links (in case waffleimages is down or some silliness) Episode 1 Episode 2 Episode 3 Episode 4 Episode 5 Scandalous also made a sound pack for thief using my voice. He is clearly insane. Here it is in action: CLICK silentbrains has made an animated Crosby cartoon thing! Holy poo poo!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_R_ESnjfuI Space Tomato covers up my gently caress ups pretty well:  He made this too!  Fan Art and Other Things! silentbrains is brilliant!  silentbrains shows how my dog plots against me.  silentbrains continues to help people not get my dog's name right:  silentbrains has the technology:  joats took time out of playing half life two to make this wonderful water color:  Click here for the full 1600x1200 image. silentbrains helps my dog escape jail:  tranceMD made a uh... thing!  Bizarro Kale colored in a silentbrains production:  Pimpmust manipulates MSPaint to show the limitations of AI in a game made in 1999:  "So...the tables have turned~" mused Khad, the Thief, with a mocking tone. silentbrains is back to show us a real stealth game:  TheMaskedUgly compares my thought process to that of my dog:  silentbrains has combined a delicious candy bar with a horrible monstrosity:  silentbrains has created a new Thief fan-fic:  silentbrains shows how my dog is liked more than I am:  silentbrains gives my dog too many ideas:  silentbrains has dominated my fan art section and I love it:  Estel makes a comic basically showing the only good part of Episode 6 - Part 5:  dirtysammiches calls this "art":  silentbrains drew this for Slowbeef's thread but it has my dog in it so hell with you slowbeef I am taking it:  silentbrains is a marvelous beast:  Internet Janitor made me a detailed map of my video card:  silentbrains shows us how to get rid of creepers:  P.M.F. reminds me that Fraps doesn't like me: .gif) Corman blames me, however:  P.M.F. keeps it coming:  P.M.F. makes sure I take out as many of you fuckers as I can with me:  ScotchDK remembers the SWAT days when I was sick:  silentbrains made up for lost time by mashing everything together:  P.M.F. continues the train theme.  Convex used all his effort to make this gem:  P.M.F.:  P.M.F. finally breaks from the train gimmick:  P.M.F. brings things around full circle:  P.M.F. sums up this LP with one picture:  P.M.F. gets sick nasty:  (CLICK FOR BIG) Silentbrains returns with commentary on the Crosby incident:       P.M.F. strikes again: 
Khad fucked around with this message at Sep 8, 2010 around 22:14 |
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Hell yeah ground floor on this bitch. I never played any of these games either, I hope they're really hard and frustrating
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| # ? May 29, 2010 09:21 |
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May these games create you huge amounts of frustration, anger and mouse-smashing. Thief games rule. Even the third. E - drat, you could've almost played some basketball. Sprat Sandwich fucked around with this message at May 29, 2010 around 09:52 |
| # ? May 29, 2010 09:32 |
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This is going to be amazing.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 09:32 |
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The reason you have trouble with the videos is that Looking Glass used a codec from Intel which does not have a version for any windows past Win98. EDIT: You missed the basketball court in the training mission. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at May 29, 2010 around 09:41 |
| # ? May 29, 2010 09:35 |
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Is the non-Fraps recorder "Camstadia" you are referring to in the first video the freeware CamStudio or TechSmith's Camtasia? Despite my tech-scrubbery I wanted to shallowly search some forums to see if there was some known way to avoid your cursor/crashing issue so we could see some menus in game, but you can't google blind, man.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 09:51 |
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Oh hey, you're actually doing expert difficulty.  Khad, if you feel like you're not going to be able to pull the game off on expert, PM me. What I'm thinking is if you want to switch out to normal, I can dust off my game and record the levels on expert, and just post my expert level a few days after your normal level with us just doing commentary in post.
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ThaGhettoJew posted:Is the non-Fraps recorder "Camstadia" you are referring to in the first video the freeware CamStudio or TechSmith's Camtasia? Despite my tech-scrubbery I wanted to shallowly search some forums to see if there was some known way to avoid your cursor/crashing issue so we could see some menus in game, but you can't google blind, man. Camtasia. DeathSandwich posted:Oh hey, you're actually doing expert difficulty. I am going to try it out on Expert and see what happens. If I manage to do it you can still do an expert mode and we can do commentary on your play-throughs considering how poorly I did compared to how much better you will do.
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If it's seriously going to net you two hundred bucks a month, go ahead and turn on the ads. I'm seconding the stipulation that at least a portion of it gets spent on Crosby, though. So when is this game set? The beginning animatic/cutscene thing makes me think it's modern day, but you're using decidedly medieval weaponry (although the sight on the bow tips the scale to present day).
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Edminster posted:So when is this game set? The beginning animatic/cutscene thing makes me think it's modern day, but you're using decidedly medieval weaponry (although the sight on the bow tips the scale to present day). What modern day city do you live in where there are guards with chainmail wielding axes.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 10:06 |
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Edminster posted:If it's seriously going to net you two hundred bucks a month, go ahead and turn on the ads. I'm seconding the stipulation that at least a portion of it gets spent on Crosby, though. I am going to say probably the beginning of the industrial revolution since there are gears and poo poo on the menu.
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uPen posted:What modern day city do you live in where there are guards with chainmail wielding axes. I am literally posting from the Year of Our Lord 1254. Also I thought the intro was like A Brief History of Thieves sort of deal. Khad posted:I am going to say probably the beginning of the industrial revolution since there are gears and poo poo on the menu. Ah, well. I guess that's cool, but nowhere near as awesome as the image of swinging through some douchebag Wall Street dude's mansion to steal an artifact using nothing but old-school equipment because you are that pro at being a thief.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 10:19 |
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The Thief games have a fantasy setting. Basically a medieval society on the cusp of technological revolution, hence stuff like gas lighting and limited electricity and steam engines.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 10:23 |
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Edminster posted:Ah, well. I guess that's cool, but nowhere near as awesome as the image of swinging through some douchebag Wall Street dude's mansion to steal an artifact using nothing but old-school equipment because you are that pro at being a thief. Wasn't Thief 4 originally supposed to be like that?
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| # ? May 29, 2010 10:23 |
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Random Stranger posted:The reason you have trouble with the videos is that Looking Glass used a codec from Intel which does not have a version for any windows past Win98. I'd also guess that LG's "Dark" engine wasn't quite as well-coded as other 3D engines used in games at the time which is why it causes so much trouble for Fraps. Of course I may be talking out of my rear end but I never liked the feel of it, jerky movement, low-poly models, grainy low-res cinematics, the list goes on. The "Dark" engine is also my least favorite part of System Shock 2.
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fixelbrumpf posted:I'd also guess that LG's "Dark" engine wasn't quite as well-coded as other 3D engines used in games at the time which is why it causes so much trouble for Fraps. Of course I may be talking out of my rear end but I never liked the feel of it, jerky movement, low-poly models, grainy low-res cinematics, the list goes on. The "Dark" engine is also my least favorite part of System Shock 2. It's not that it was THAT badly coded, IIRC it just concentrated on different stuff like how the AI reacts to sound and the whole light-shadow thing. I might be talking out of my rear end, though. The feel of the games is odd, that's true.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 12:06 |
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I'm glad to see another Crosby LP, Thief is one of my favorate games and I look forward to seeing how you do. also I don't care about the ads I normaly pause vids at the start for a bit so it can load anyway, another 15 seconds won't make a difference.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 13:18 |
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I wouldn't play this on Expert difficulty because it isn't that fun for the first time through and you miss out on a lot of game mechanics (you will never have the satisfaction of learning how to compensate for arrow drop to take out a guard long-distance, you won't have to hide bodies so guards don't stumble over them). It isn't really suitable for a blind LP at all, it is more of a fun personal challenge after you have already played through the game once or twice. I would stick to Hard, personally.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 13:21 |
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jawbroken posted:I wouldn't play this on Expert difficulty because it isn't that fun for the first time through and you miss out on a lot of game mechanics (you will never have the satisfaction of learning how to compensate for arrow drop to take out a guard long-distance, you won't have to hide bodies so guards don't stumble over them). It isn't really suitable for a blind LP at all, it is more of a fun personal challenge after you have already played through the game once or twice. I definitely agree with this.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 13:25 |
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Also the treasure requirements are way up so you have to spend a lot of time wandering around looking for stuff if you don't know where any of it is, so yeah, I'd go with Hard.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 13:39 |
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Looking forward to seeing all of these in action. The only experience I had with the series was Deadly Shadows. The technology levels in Thief are a bit... strange, but it's an endearing strange. I think of it as Arcanum without the guns, really. Really, I hope Thief 4 continues the whole clockpunk feel when it comes out.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 13:43 |
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Thief: Sneaking past lazy guards and punching cultists in the dick.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 13:56 |
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I support the idea that you play hard instead of expert. Hard will make for a more enjoyable LP.
sick trigger fucked around with this message at May 29, 2010 around 14:21 |
| # ? May 29, 2010 14:16 |
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Hell yeah, I never got to play this game either so I'm really looking forward to this! (also: woah, my Crosby fanart got inherited into this thread!)
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| # ? May 29, 2010 14:39 |
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A man comes to rescue me. Poor man.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 14:44 |
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Thank you Khad for posting this LP. Always heard good things about the Thief series, so it will be interesting to watch. By the way, are you using any mods for the Thief games? I know the third one has a lot of mods that greatly improve it.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 14:55 |
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Awesome  Also, Khad, you can avoid looking at the map (in the menu) by making use of these; just click on the level name's link and scroll to the bottom for screen caps of said maps. Just print 'em out/put them in a link somewheres. There aren't INTERACTIVE CURSORS~ or anything of the sort. The maps you get are hand-drawn scribbles typically with notes 
Geop fucked around with this message at May 29, 2010 around 15:19 |
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Yeah the loot requirements on Expert are pretty harsh, I recall spending several hours backtracking through some levels trying in vain to find a few golden goblets or whatever before giving up entirely.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 15:18 |
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Don't forget that higher difficulty means more enemies to deal with 
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| # ? May 29, 2010 15:20 |
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Awesome! I used to play this on my ex-gf's PoS Celeron Win98 machine. Fast-forward like 4 years and I built myself a more modern computer with WinXP and found that I couldn't go more than a minute without this game crashing. =( Was a really fun game, I'll be following this LP.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 15:22 |
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Ah sweet, the new thread is up. This is going to be great. You play on whatever difficulty you want, Khad.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 15:24 |
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I'm going to say do hard first, and let Death Sandwich do the expert runthrough.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 15:49 |
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The Thief series is my all-time favourite franchise. This thread will be amazing.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 16:21 |
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Oh, man. The Penumbra stuff was great, and I love the Thief series (especially Thief II), so I'm looking forward to this. Difficulty choice is a bit tricky. Harder difficulties are definitely going to be rough for a blind playthrough, since you generally can't kill anybody and you may have to wander all over the place looking for a few last bits of loot. On the other hand, the harder difficulties give you extra objectives, like actually having to make your way out after looting a place, stealing specific objects, or other bits of interest... some of which show up on Hard, but others only on Expert. I think starting with Expert isn't a bad idea, to get a feel for the limitations on it. I won't hold it against you if you end up dialing it down to Hard, though.
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| # ? May 29, 2010 16:39 |
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I'd suggest playing it on normal mode. What fun is it if he can't murder innocents?
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| # ? May 29, 2010 16:44 |
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Edminster posted:So when is this game set? The beginning animatic/cutscene thing makes me think it's modern day, but you're using decidedly medieval weaponry (although the sight on the bow tips the scale to present day).
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| # ? May 29, 2010 16:47 |
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Svartvit posted:I'd suggest playing it on normal mode. What fun is it if he can't murder innocents? That is a good point. I have many a fond memory of amassing huge corpse piles. Or knocking people out and throwing them out windows. Or into wells. Or tossing them onto fires...
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| # ? May 29, 2010 17:05 |
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The Thief series is definitely an all time classic. Khad's right though about how difficult it is to run on a modern machine. I have never gotten past the title screen on my laptop without Thief crashing.
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