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Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


I saw this earlier, and now I've got this big ol' boner that just won't go away

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=210595952

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Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004

Try to Catch Me Ridin' Dirty


Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

Next to none. I'm not a great judge of pistols, but the finish is rubbed off all the sharp edges on the slide, you can just about see where surfaces contact each other, otherwise the thing might as well be factory.

I'd be surprised if it'd seen more than a couple hundred rounds before I got it, which is why it freaked me out that it's breaking parts already. Good to know it doesn't happen all the time, though.

Thats probably why the part has lasted so long. Here's a factory replacement:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduc...ctNumber=153783

It may require some fitting.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!



Carbohydrates posted:

I saw this earlier, and now I've got this big ol' boner that just won't go away

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=210595952


I would own that in an instant.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Carbohydrates posted:

I saw this earlier, and now I've got this big ol' boner that just won't go away

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=210595952



That is a gorgeous engraving job. Where would you even get something like that done?

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

That is a gorgeous engraving job. Where would you even get something like that done?
...And would it cost more or less than that one? As far as fancy heirloom guns to pass down through the family go, a BHP is hard to beat.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

Carbohydrates posted:

...And would it cost more or less than that one? As far as fancy heirloom guns to pass down through the family go, a BHP is hard to beat.

Nah, I would want to do it to a revolver. If I wanted a gorgeously engraved hi power I would just buy that one.

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

Nah, I would want to do it to a revolver. If I wanted a gorgeously engraved hi power I would just buy that one.
Stop tempting me.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011



The man asks for photos, the man gets photos.

(the man provided no indication as to the quality of said photos)











Thanks for the help thus far. As a certain missing pin might suggest, I've decided to hang onto it. It really does shoot better without, though I'm still just anywhere on the paper so far.

Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004

Try to Catch Me Ridin' Dirty


Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

The man asks for photos, the man gets photos.

(the man provided no indication as to the quality of said photos)











Thanks for the help thus far. As a certain missing pin might suggest, I've decided to hang onto it. It really does shoot better without, though I'm still just anywhere on the paper so far.

Wow, yours is nicer than the one I got.

poopship
May 2, 2003


Will a lighter hammer spring like the one that comes with the C&S trigger kit help with the safety being too stiff? My safety moves just right without the rest of the internals in place but is stiff as hell once all the parts are together.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

poopship posted:

Will a lighter hammer spring like the one that comes with the C&S trigger kit help with the safety being too stiff? My safety moves just right without the rest of the internals in place but is stiff as hell once all the parts are together.

Just to be sure you did take the magazine safety out right?

poopship
May 2, 2003


Yeah, the mag safety is out. I greezed everything up a bunch too.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011



Miso Beno posted:

Wow, yours is nicer than the one I got.

Thanks, yeah, now that I've handled and used it a bit I like it a lot more than I thought I would. Assuming the firing pin plate's an isolated problem it seems pretty great.

By the way, what does this do?

Miso Beno posted:

DONT LET YOUR SLIDE GO HOME WITH THE DISASSEMBLY NOTCH

'cause I think I've been doing that.

Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at Jan 12, 2011 around 12:55

Thepossiblelight
Jul 2, 2007
shut up.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/90050461...brique_Nati.htm
probably gonna buy this one, thoughts?
anyone seen one better for a comparable price?
fwiw, i really hate ring hammers, and i like that safety style a lot.
also, prefer the combat sights.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011



That muzzle bore looks really fuckin' gross, even from their blurry picture. The one I bought came off the same batch with a great barrel and search is showing there's still about a billion others there, I'd get one of the other otherwise identical ~$400 Israeli hipowers on GunsAmerica that doesn't look like the last owner used it to pick his nose.

E: Here, ambi safety, spur hammer, combat sights, same price or lower, nothing so immediately repellent an amateur can spot it from a 640x480 jpg. Bam. You're willing to go right-hand-only safety and just like the look of the lever, there's like a dozen truly excellent ones I didn't count.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/95806450...2_Magazines.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/92563760...2_Magazines.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/92563760...2_Magazines.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/96754128...2_Magazines.htm

Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2011 around 01:06

Ignoarints
Nov 26, 2010


I saw a Browning Hi Power at my local gun store. It was $675 and I easily mistook it for being brand new behind the case, but it was marked used. The only problem was it had a GOLD trigger. Are triggers easily replaceable? This place prices guns absurdly high, I mean every Sigma was $400+, some Taurus's were over $550 - which is also the best thing they carry. They don't even have a Glock. So I was surprised to see a Browning Hi Power for less than MSRP. Unless the internals are blocks of rust or something, this might be an okay deal?

Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004

Try to Catch Me Ridin' Dirty


Ignoarints posted:

I saw a Browning Hi Power at my local gun store. It was $675 and I easily mistook it for being brand new behind the case, but it was marked used. The only problem was it had a GOLD trigger. Are triggers easily replaceable? This place prices guns absurdly high, I mean every Sigma was $400+, some Taurus's were over $550 - which is also the best thing they carry. They don't even have a Glock. So I was surprised to see a Browning Hi Power for less than MSRP. Unless the internals are blocks of rust or something, this might be an okay deal?

It's an OK deal if the gun is new. Also, I'll totally trade you a plain trigger for your gold trigger.

poopship
May 2, 2003


I'm seriously the only one who got one of these that has a safety that doesn't move correctly? Throw me a bone here.

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


poopship posted:

I'm seriously the only one who got one of these that has a safety that doesn't move correctly? Throw me a bone here.
Does the safety's bar have burrs in it? Have you tried oiling the poo poo out of it and flicking it back and forth a few dozen times?

poopship
May 2, 2003


Yeah, it clicks in and out perfectly if the rest of the internals aren't installed but is slow and heavy once everything else is in place. I tried oil and white lithium grease.

darnzen
Jun 25, 2005

I crap dark matter.

poopship posted:

I'm seriously the only one who got one of these that has a safety that doesn't move correctly? Throw me a bone here.

The safety on mine was super stiff, but it has improved a little with use (I just sat putting safety on and off a couple of nights while watching TV). What version / year is yours? Mine is a '75 Mk I that was basically unused when I got it.

Also make sure the hammer is at full cock or it will be very difficult (impossible?) to move.

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


darnzen posted:

The safety on mine was super stiff, but it has improved a little with use (I just sat putting safety on and off a couple of nights while watching TV). What version / year is yours? Mine is a '75 Mk I that was basically unused when I got it.

Also make sure the hammer is at full cock or it will be very difficult (impossible?) to move.
Should be impossible to engage the safety without the hammer back.

poopship
May 2, 2003


darnzen posted:

The safety on mine was super stiff, but it has improved a little with use (I just sat putting safety on and off a couple of nights while watching TV). What version / year is yours? Mine is a '75 Mk I that was basically unused when I got it.

Also make sure the hammer is at full cock or it will be very difficult (impossible?) to move.

I probably worked it back and forth about 500 times last night on the couch, no real improvement. I had to use a little shop rag as my dainty little fingers started to hurt after about 25 times. It's that lovely. It's not gritty or anything, just a lot of force necessary to move it. I can get it disengaged with my thumb but it has to be pretty deliberate and it doesn't "click" so sometimes it will be just a smidge high and stay engaged. Of course, the hammer is fully cocked or it won't work at all.

I'm not sure what year it is. It's one of the argentine ones that everyone was getting a few months back, I think from J&G sales.

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




Welp, wasn't feeling sleepy tonight. Jack-poo poo on TV, nothing really interesting to mess with on the computer, so... time to remove the magazine disconnect! (At ten minutes to midnight, even.) (Using the Uncle Caveman guide linked from the OP.)

Field strip - check!

Remove the trigger pin - check!

Remove the trigger assembly - check!

Drive out the disconnector pin and remove the disconnector and spring - check!

Replace the trigger - check!

Replace the cam post - gently caress!

It took me longer to find some wood with a hole in it to drop the disconnector pin into, than it did to do everything up to reassembling the trigger bits.

It took me over 25 minutes to tease the goddamn cam post back into place and get the trigger in position to insert the trigger pin; I had it three or four times, but I kept getting almost to the point of pin-stuffing, and the bastard would suddenly be out of position or rattling around in the magwell. Oh, and ask me about getting everything set, pin inserted... and then noticing I put the pin in from the wrong side. I'd much rather reassemble the sear/disconnector on a 1911, and I *detest* that.

Luckily, I shouldn't have to do this often, right?

Final result is... All the grittiness and creepy take-up is gone - there's still some take-up, but once resistance is felt, it's all "snap". Originally, I was a bit disappointed in the BHP trigger, compared to my 1911, but now it's a helluva lot better than it was.

I *highly* recommend this procedure - people with actual fingers and fine motor skills will probably find it easier than I did with my big clumsy meat-hooks.

And now, I'm off to dry-fire a lot until I fall asleep...

Carbohydrates
Nov 22, 2006

Listen, Mr. Kansas Law Dog.
Law don't go around here.
Savvy?


Ygolonac posted:

Remove the trigger pin - check!
The fact that this went so smoothly rather than, say, being impossible to remove without soaking for a day in penetrating oil and even then being the hardest pin to remove that I've thus far experienced leaves me with little sympathy for your alignment issues.

Nice that you got that bastard outta there, though! I did the C&S spring/hammer/sear kit and removed the mag safety, and it was the mag safety that made the larger difference.

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




Carbohydrates posted:

The fact that this went so smoothly rather than, say, being impossible to remove without soaking for a day in penetrating oil and even then being the hardest pin to remove that I've thus far experienced leaves me with little sympathy for your alignment issues.

Nice that you got that bastard outta there, though! I did the C&S spring/hammer/sear kit and removed the mag safety, and it was the mag safety that made the larger difference.

If anything, the trigger pin is a bit loose - it wants to walk out a bit, every time I shoot. <shrug> The actual disconnector pin, I thought was going to be a sonofabitch, because both sides had a good-size punch-mark to stake it in. A few bangs with a rubber mallet on my 1/16th punch and it popped loose, one more hit and it was out.

Robokraut
Feb 25, 2003

Arsch mit Ohre


This.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=211991809

I do not see anything wrong with it. Does anything jump out at you guys? I want an Inglis and I am trying to find reasons to not start a bidding war, but this looks exactly like what I have been wanting.









Talk me out of this... if you can point me at something better.

Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004

Try to Catch Me Ridin' Dirty


T

Robokraut posted:

This.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=211991809

I do not see anything wrong with it. Does anything jump out at you guys? I want an Inglis and I am trying to find reasons to not start a bidding war, but this looks exactly like what I have been wanting.









Talk me out of this... if you can point me at something better.
I'd bet money that's a repark.

Chantilly Say
Apr 18, 2008

A man's got to know his limitations.

Also, death to My Little Pony.


Robokraut posted:

This.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vi...?Item=211991809

I do not see anything wrong with it. Does anything jump out at you guys? I want an Inglis and I am trying to find reasons to not start a bidding war, but this looks exactly like what I have been wanting.









Talk me out of this... if you can point me at something better.

If they're calling it "mint" they're either lying or misinformed. That finish is very clearly younger than the gun, possibly much younger.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


Just chiming in on the "repark" bit. That isn't even close to what wartime park looks like.

The stock looks fairly legit, although I'm pretty willing to bet that it's at least taken a couple wipes with BLO to pretty it up right before the photo shoot. Maybe just some furniture polish, though.

To get a feel for what wartime park would look like vs what's on the gun, look at the gun and the metal fixtures on the stock. THAT is what pretty much unmolested 60 year old park would look like.

darnzen
Jun 25, 2005

I crap dark matter.

poopship posted:

I probably worked it back and forth about 500 times last night on the couch, no real improvement. I had to use a little shop rag as my dainty little fingers started to hurt after about 25 times. It's that lovely. It's not gritty or anything, just a lot of force necessary to move it. I can get it disengaged with my thumb but it has to be pretty deliberate and it doesn't "click" so sometimes it will be just a smidge high and stay engaged. Of course, the hammer is fully cocked or it won't work at all.

I'm not sure what year it is. It's one of the argentine ones that everyone was getting a few months back, I think from J&G sales.

My thumb was killing me as well. Safety never 'clicks' into position on engage/disengage for me either (don't know what's normal). Mine is still hard to move, but it's to the point where I can flick the safety off with the thumb of my shooting hand so I'm happy. Last I remember I was still using my off hand to flip the safety back on however.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


Also, were the Chinese contract guns ever actually parked? Mine isn't.

Robokraut
Feb 25, 2003

Arsch mit Ohre


Miso Beno and Chantilly Say and Cyrano4747 posted:



Repark.

Thanks, guys. Third shift and a cell phone screen did not help me pick up on that one. You have saved me a chunk of change and a severe case of buyers remorse.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


I think I hosed up.



That little circle of metal is broken. I think it happened during me knocking out the pin for the mag safety. Now I have the thing put back together and it will not dry fire with out without a mag. It will also not lock back the slide when I rack it with a mag in place. Do I just need to replace the trigger? Sorry dad, didn't mean to bust your dead brothers Hi-Power.

widefault
Mar 16, 2009


Looking at my FM, I don't think that little bit does a whole lot. Maybe holds the bar that moves up in position? Do you have the trigger spring in the right place?

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



That little loop holds the post that presses on the transfer bar that engages the sear (goddammit, I really should learn the proper parts names). Provided the trigger resets properly after each shot, gravity should pull the bar back down into position... but of course if something can go wrong it will. I could see the bar getting turned around from not being secured and possibly preventing motion of the trigger or slide.

I'd just go ahead and replace the trigger if it were my gun.

SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Uncle Caveman posted:

That little loop holds the post that presses on the transfer bar that engages the sear (goddammit, I really should learn the proper parts names).

The post is called the Trigger Lever, and the transfer bar is called the Sear Lever (though I call it the Sear Engagement Lever, so I might be wrong on all parts names anyway )

Yeah, you should replace the trigger, Naramyth. Numrich sells a blued one for $66, but go whole hog and get the gold-plated trigger for only $143.45!

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Cyrano4747 posted:

Just chiming in on the "repark" bit. That isn't even close to what wartime park looks like.

The stock looks fairly legit, although I'm pretty willing to bet that it's at least taken a couple wipes with BLO to pretty it up right before the photo shoot. Maybe just some furniture polish, though.

To get a feel for what wartime park would look like vs what's on the gun, look at the gun and the metal fixtures on the stock. THAT is what pretty much unmolested 60 year old park would look like.

Just in case anyone's curious what a mint original park looks like, I'm going to pimp my Inglis again:





So yeah, that finish isn't correct.

also look at my drat cat

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



SadWhaleFamily posted:

The post is called the Trigger Lever, and the transfer bar is called the Sear Lever
I call it the angry see-saw

Midway has the C&S wide trigger for $50, if you don't mind something not as old-timey.

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Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




I guess "trigger lever" is the name for that motherfucking piece of poo poo sonofabitch particular part that caused me my difficulties.

Although *I* didn't get so pissed as to break the bit it fits into...

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