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HappyCapybaraFamily
Sep 16, 2009

It's a beautiful day in GRORIOUS NIPPON

I emailed Novak, and they said that their Mark II rear sights will work on my Kareen, but their front sights (only available for Mark III BHPs) will not work on my older slide because "the dovetail is to deep."

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IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


HappyCapybaraFamily posted:

I emailed Novak, and they said that their Mark II rear sights will work on my Kareen, but their front sights (only available for Mark III BHPs) will not work on my older slide because "the dovetail is to deep."



Your front sight is dovetailed??

HappyCapybaraFamily
Sep 16, 2009

It's a beautiful day in GRORIOUS NIPPON

IuniusBrutus posted:

Your front sight is dovetailed??

No, but the Novak front sights are (and so are Mark III BHP front sights, actually). Apparently the slide construction is somehow different enough on my gun vs. a Mark III that I can't mill my slide for front sights.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


HappyCapybaraFamily posted:

No, but the Novak front sights are (and so are Mark III BHP front sights, actually). Apparently the slide construction is somehow different enough on my gun vs. a Mark III that I can't mill my slide for front sights.

This seems really unusual, as I've heard of staked-front sight Hi-Powers being dovetailed, and I would consider a second-opinion - this guy is pretty cool, too. http://www.garthwaite.com/

Styles Bitchley
Nov 13, 2004

FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

Took my new to me Israeli Mark III out for the first time and was very pleased. Smooth as butter and shot very accurate for me.

Has anyone tried to tweak the factory safety to get a more positive "snick"? Was thinking of getting in there and looking at the spring and detent or however it works to see what could be done with the mushiness.

right arm
Oct 29, 2011



Styles Bitchley posted:

Took my new to me Israeli Mark III out for the first time and was very pleased. Smooth as butter and shot very accurate for me.

Has anyone tried to tweak the factory safety to get a more positive "snick"? Was thinking of getting in there and looking at the spring and detent or however it works to see what could be done with the mushiness.

the spring + detent for the safety are housed in the safety itself, unlike a 1911 where the detent is separate from the safety. the detent pushes against two notches in the frame:


bhpdisassembly19 by right_arm, on Flickr

so that means you'll probably have to get a heavier spring and possibly reprofile the detent to get a better lock in safe and fire. don't go loving with your frame for obvious reasons, detents are way cheaper

Styles Bitchley
Nov 13, 2004

FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

Thanks for the info.

Another question: are the 15rd Mec-Gar mags considered to be any less reliable than standard the standard 13rd ones?

right arm
Oct 29, 2011



Styles Bitchley posted:

Thanks for the info.

Another question: are the 15rd Mec-Gar mags considered to be any less reliable than standard the standard 13rd ones?

nah those are great, don't think I've ever had an issue with a mec-gar magazine for any pistol I've owned

Styles Bitchley
Nov 13, 2004

FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

Thanks, i'll try a few out. If anybody looking for Hi-Power mags, http://www.gregcotellc.com/ is showing these in stock.

lifenomad
May 8, 2009




Mec-gar mags for life.

Also, I think I did something wrong...

Android Bicyclist
Apr 28, 2009

Leave no chalupa behind...
Yes, I shoot just like this.


For a moment I thought you disassembled some fancy phaser pistol.
Sorry, the latest Star Trek Into Darkness commercial was on so I got Trek on the brain.

right arm
Oct 29, 2011



lifenomad posted:

Mec-gar mags for life.

Also, I think I did something wrong...


my favorite thing to do when field stripping my hi power is launching the slide off the frame. think I saw a gif of hugh laurie doing it one time

e: found it

right arm fucked around with this message at Apr 28, 2013 around 20:45

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005


right arm posted:

my favorite thing to do when field stripping my hi power is launching the slide off the frame. think I saw a gif of hugh laurie doing it one time

e: found it



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3CWlLoKiQ

From A Bit of Fry and Laurie.

Argh, beaten

Styles Bitchley
Nov 13, 2004

FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN

I broke the gun down again and looked at the safety. I got lucky with some random other spring I found(maybe a Ruger 10/22 trigger spring?) that was the perfect diameter. Clipped coils until I could get the plunger to sit far enough in and the result was MUCH better, though after I reassembled I dropped some oil in there which made it noticeably less positive but still better than factory.

Liam Acerbus
Sep 17, 2007





Got me a retired Israeli police FN. It has a cute little Star of David on the side. In spite of the mag safety, the trigger is quite light as it is. There's a little grit, but it's not terrible.

One thing I am curious about are import marks. This pistol has none to speak of. It just has the caliber on the chamber, the serials, and "FABRIQUE NATIONALE HERSTAL BELGIQUE."

The sights have some dings, but appear fine. I just need to put the white back in them.

I can take better pics when I get back to my apartment.

Rupert_Yeats
Jun 7, 2011


Liam Acerbus posted:



Got me a retired Israeli police FN. It has a cute little Star of David on the side. In spite of the mag safety, the trigger is quite light as it is. There's a little grit, but it's not terrible.

One thing I am curious about are import marks. This pistol has none to speak of. It just has the caliber on the chamber, the serials, and "FABRIQUE NATIONALE HERSTAL BELGIQUE."

The sights have some dings, but appear fine. I just need to put the white back in them.

I can take better pics when I get back to my apartment.

Is that a gcole one? Mine didn't have import marks either.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002
How much longer do I have?

What's the going price on a Hi-Power that will see range use only? I'd like to get an idea of what I should be looking for as far as price. I shot a Hi-Power that belonged to my step-dad that I fell in love with and have wanted one since.

Liam Acerbus
Sep 17, 2007



http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.asp...Sellers=2621012

Knock yourself out, buddy.

This is the same seller I got mine from.

Rupert_Yeats
Jun 7, 2011


Liam Acerbus posted:

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.asp...Sellers=2621012

Knock yourself out, buddy.

This is the same seller I got mine from.

I'll vouch for this seller too. You'll pay way more from anyone else for the same condition.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


This could potentially go for relatively good price, not real keen on those "armorers marks" though.

Angry Boat
Mar 3, 2008



Basticle posted:

This could potentially go for relatively good price, not real keen on those "armorers marks" though.

First time I've seen grips like that. That's pretty neat.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002
How much longer do I have?

Man those armorers marks looks like poo poo.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Yeah and the price went from "ehhh I could probably live with it" to "gently caress that" in a hurry.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


Shot my Hi-Power in an IDPA match today; it still owns. Shooting lower-powered 9mm through it is basically cheating.

Liam Acerbus
Sep 17, 2007



I think my pistol shoots quite a bit higher than point of aim. I was plinking at stuff and not at paper, so I'm not sure exactly what was going on there. I'll make a rough guess of 6'' high at 15 yards. I know some military pistols get sighted in for 50 or even 100 meters. Any ideas?

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Is your point of aim at the center of the target or at a 6:00 hold?

Liam Acerbus
Sep 17, 2007



If I wanted to hit something, way under. Much lower than a 6:00 hold. I'll just have to put some shots on paper and see what it looks like.

Trying to search for something like "Hi-Power shooting too high" just seems to make Google have a fit.

Vorlonesque
Sep 17, 2005

Killing planets since 1876

Liam Acerbus posted:

I think my pistol shoots quite a bit higher than point of aim. I was plinking at stuff and not at paper, so I'm not sure exactly what was going on there. I'll make a rough guess of 6'' high at 15 yards. I know some military pistols get sighted in for 50 or even 100 meters. Any ideas?

My Inglis does this at the 15-20 yard distances I normally shoot at with it...and I have a feeling its just sighted in for a longer distance...or it could be the result of it being really old and beat up? It does shoot consistently high, so I just adjust and it works fine (and I bought the thing more as a neat old gun and less as a shooter).

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Nomenclature
Jul 20, 2006

You can outrun the IRS, but you can't outrun your sister's love.



Here's a 0.55 inch 3-shot group I shot at 25 yards yesterday with my Gcoledist 1991 Hi-Power (a Belgian police trade-in, I think). This was the second time I had the gun out. I took the shot below it and looked through a spotting scope to see where I was hitting, then did the 3-shot group. If you include the sighter, it's still only a 1.1" group. Now that I got the magazine disconnect out, this gun is really impressing me.

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