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Yeah, when you can get a <$400 BHP off gunbroker that's in good quality I can't see the point in that gun.
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| # ? Aug 13, 2012 20:45 |
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| # ? May 19, 2013 17:38 |
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NovemberMike posted:Yeah, when you can get a <$400 BHP off gunbroker that's in good quality I can't see the point in that gun. The actual Browning stamped ones on GB all look to be $600+. I'm still going to go look at it, but I'll probably wait for something nicer.
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| # ? Aug 13, 2012 21:43 |
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Shroomie posted:The actual Browning stamped ones on GB all look to be $600+. Check out gcole's Hi Powers. He has some with serious wear for under $350 and some decent ones for around $400. It's not the best stuff in the world but it's more than you're paying for. I think they're police surplus or something. Also, what do you mean by "Browning Stamped"?
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| # ? Aug 13, 2012 22:19 |
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NovemberMike posted:Check out gcole's Hi Powers. He has some with serious wear for under $350 and some decent ones for around $400. It's not the best stuff in the world but it's more than you're paying for. I think they're police surplus or something. Also, what do you mean by "Browning Stamped"? Ones that say Browning Hi Power on the slide instead of Fabrique Nationale. By the by, other person I am not quoting, get one of them refinished FN HPs. They're awesome.
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| # ? Aug 13, 2012 22:29 |
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SadWhaleFamily posted:Ones that say Browning Hi Power on the slide instead of Fabrique Nationale. I thought the refinished FNs were on the "eh" side of "eh." I mean Fang bought one and the refinishers just blasted over pitting and just kept on parking.
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| # ? Aug 13, 2012 23:09 |
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Miso Beno posted:I thought the refinished FNs were on the "eh" side of "eh." I mean Fang bought one and the refinishers just blasted over pitting and just kept on parking. I mean in terms of a <$400 shooter HP. The overall fit (and parts compatibility) is still better than a FEG. The one I got was super oversprung in the mainspring, but swapping it out for a C&S target kit made it great.
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| # ? Aug 13, 2012 23:17 |
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Miso Beno posted:I thought the refinished FNs were on the "eh" side of "eh." I mean Fang bought one and the refinishers just blasted over pitting and just kept on parking. I wouldn't mount them on a wall, but mine isn't really ugly and it shoots well. It's a good gun for the $450ish you spend on it after shipping and fees.
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| # ? Aug 14, 2012 01:50 |
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"No more guns this year", I told myself after too many impulse purchases. Then, I saw the thread title and read the OP. Then yesterday, I bought this. Expected delivery date: August 24, 2012.
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| # ? Aug 23, 2012 21:41 |
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Miso Beno posted:I thought the refinished FNs were on the "eh" side of "eh." I mean Fang bought one and the refinishers just blasted over pitting and just kept on parking. I don't know if that's a general thing or just the Hi-Power sold to me under false advertising by Royal Tiger Imports. It may be that other refinished Hi-Powers are of significantly higher quality than the ones sold by Royal Tiger Imports and advertised as "like new." Here is what Royal Tiger Imports defines as "like new:"     I wouldn't be bitter about it if they hadn't seen the above photos, told me to send it back, and then once they had both my gun and money, fed me BS before ignoring emails and phone calls. This is the BS to which I refer: quote:To: <Fang> It took contesting the charges with my credit card company to get them to pay attention to me. Their explanation for the two weeks they had my property and waited for me to go away: "We're a small company." Don't see that changing any time soon. I'm still out sales tax and transfer fees for the gun, so I'm sharing my $85 lesson with you: Do not buy from the shitbirds at Royal Tiger Imports. Fang fucked around with this message at Aug 24, 2012 around 05:37 |
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Fang posted:Do not buy from the shitbirds at Royal Tiger Imports. But... I was not displeased enough to send it back. Honestly, I didn't expect much for $399. I was hoping to get lucky and get a jewel for cheap. If I had seen my gun in a store, I don't think I would have paid more than $325 total.
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| # ? Aug 24, 2012 12:50 |
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Is there any real harm to a bit of pitting under a refinish? my mk 1 FN Hi-Power has some patches here and there.
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| # ? Aug 24, 2012 21:37 |
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So long as it's not on any of the operating surfaces, it's just ugly and lovely and means you got a beater gun someone tried to dress up as something nicer.
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| # ? Aug 24, 2012 21:40 |
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GEEKABALL posted:If you go back a couple of pages you will see why I agree with you. The one I received from Royal Tiger Import is pretty beat up, but does not have that terrible pitting (probably due to what looks like at least two different layers of some kind of epoxy coating). Mine also came with a blasted out importer mark. There's no harm with that pitting and the gun looked fine internally. However, their site said they only had "like new" condition remaining for an additional $150. The photo on their website showed a pristine parkerized finish with nice sharp edges, so I figured it was representative of what they were selling. $550 for an essentially brand-new FN with a fresh finish is worth the money. It should be noted that at some point after I sent them my photos, they first changed the "like new" surcharge info, so the price was just $550. Then they later changed their product photos.
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| # ? Aug 24, 2012 22:33 |
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I'm not trying to imply Fang did anything wrong (because those people are apparently shitlords), but all of that is why there is a VERY loving short list of companies that I will buy surplus from without pictures of the actual item, not some best case scenario stock photo. If it's something that you know is going to be beat up or show normal heavy-ish finish wear, that's one thing. But any time they claim that the product is "like new" or "in near unissued condition" or some other variation on "cosmetically perfect" with a weasel word thrown in front, I better be able to see pictures of what, exactly, I'm getting.
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 15:21 |
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So I couldn't get that M80 yesterday because my FFL was out all day (he's one of those dudes that works out of a shed in his backyard), but I got it this morning. I test fired it a few hours later, and I have to say that I'm really happy with this gun. The trigger is a bit mushy, but it's fairly accurate, very smooth, and very controllable. Follow-on shots were really easy. It also feels super comfortable in my hand. It had a perfect shiny barrel (advertised as "mint") and came with a new Mec-Gar mag, which can be reloaded with a Glock speedloader. There were only a few cosmetic imperfections, mostly on the grips. This M80 was a legit HP clone, the barrel has a barrel cam lug and is not a P9M or M5906-style barrel. In the future, I will get this thing ceracoated OD green with flat black trigger & other small parts, and install some really nice grips. Thank you, OP, or whoever came up with the thread title.
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 19:34 |
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safetyStanddown posted:
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 19:39 |
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I wholly support the refinishing of any firearm in OD. 
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 19:44 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:I wholly support the refinishing of any firearm in OD. Not a Hi Power. Even I have standards.
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 19:47 |
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Kommienzuspadt posted:Not a Hi Power. Even I have standards. It's just a FEG.
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 16:20 |
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Kommienzuspadt posted:Not a Hi Power. Even I have standards. Unless you are Uncle Caveman you kind of have to refinish FM hi-powers.
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 18:15 |
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JEEVES420 posted:Unless you are Uncle Caveman you kind of have to refinish FM hi-powers. Green is not the color though. Black or blued iMO. maybe a gray finish too like a park
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 18:38 |
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quick and dirty pic of my FM Hi-Power sandblasted Parkerized and black wood grips I made (still need some more sanding). 
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 19:04 |
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holy poo poo that slide release 
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 20:08 |
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JEEVES420 posted:quick and dirty pic of my FM Hi-Power sandblasted Parkerized and black wood grips I made (still need some more sanding).
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 00:59 |
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right arm posted:holy poo poo that slide release holy poo poo that safety
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 01:00 |
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JEEVES420 posted:quick and dirty pic of my FM Hi-Power sandblasted Parkerized and black wood grips I made (still need some more sanding). poo poo looks like it's from fallout new vegas
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 10:28 |
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poo poo looks like it should have an evidence tag looped through the trigger guard
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 10:51 |
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poo poo makes my RIA 1911 look like a Wilson Combat
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 10:54 |
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poo poo makes my Jennings look like a Browning ...is that a flathead screw holding on the slide release?
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 10:58 |
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:poo poo makes my Jennings look like a Browning poo poo was so ugly it got confused for a hi point
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 11:21 |
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Hey, I'm working on kind of a tight budget here, do you know where I could get a Khyber Pass factory second?
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 11:46 |
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Hey, I'm working on kind of a tight budget here, do you know where I could get a Khyber Pass factory second? I dunno man, most railroad ties I've seen have a better finish than that hi power...
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 11:54 |
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I wonder if California's ever banned a gun because it might give you cancer.
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 13:02 |
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:I wonder if California's ever banned a gun because it might give you cancer. Lead can be carcinogenic
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 20:56 |
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So I took out the mag disconnect in my Hi Power. It works, but the trigger is floppy as hell? I don't ever feel a click for when the trigger resets. Or is that just the thing with the Hi Power trigger? Feels like there is a lot of play? Is there a way to "tighten" up the trigger?
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| # ? Sep 8, 2012 00:50 |
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E2M2 posted:So I took out the mag disconnect in my Hi Power. It works, but the trigger is floppy as hell? I don't ever feel a click for when the trigger resets. Or is that just the thing with the Hi Power trigger? Feels like there is a lot of play? Is there a way to "tighten" up the trigger? Does it operate correctly?
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| # ? Sep 8, 2012 01:16 |
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Yea. Its just that I don't like the trigger at all.
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| # ? Sep 8, 2012 01:27 |
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E2M2 posted:So I took out the mag disconnect in my Hi Power. It works, but the trigger is floppy as hell? I don't ever feel a click for when the trigger resets. Or is that just the thing with the Hi Power trigger? Feels like there is a lot of play? Is there a way to "tighten" up the trigger? I'm not really sure if there's a way to tighten up the trigger so that you feel a definite reset. You could get a stronger return spring so it's not flopping around. The whole trigger/fire control system of the Hi Power is minorly Rube Goldberg-y since the trigger pushes up a pivot pin thing into a lever that's embedded in the slide, and the lever is what interacts with the sear, which is in the frame. It's all over the place.
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| # ? Sep 8, 2012 03:37 |
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"minorly Rube Goldberg-y" is an apt description of the Hi-Power trigger linkage FWIW, my (FM) HP never had a definite "click" reset before or after removing the disconnect. I think it's just the nature of the design.
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| # ? Sep 8, 2012 11:24 |
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| # ? May 19, 2013 17:38 |
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chiming in with my new manufacture BHP not having an audible, or really felt at all, click. but like sadwhalefamily said, if it is flopping around, that isn't ok, and you need a heavier return spring. I usually end up shooting this gun as I do with S&W's polymer pistols, as they have a reset that is just as bad. basically I don't ride the reset like I do with my glock or 1911, I just slack the trigger every time, takes some getting used to coming from a glock which is very easy to know where the reset is, but now I'd say I shoot the BHP just as well as I shoot my glock
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