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I just got done watching Casablanca and all I have to say is: Wow, I really underestimated this film. I mean, I had seen all the clips and heard all the lines but you don't get the impact until you see everything together. There was a lot of stuff that I didn't know: Lazlo and Ilsa were married, when she was with Rick she was cheating on him while he was in a concentration camp and a few other parts that you don't get when you only know it from the pop culture references. Everyone was excellent in the movie, and I'm about to go into a Bogey/Bergman Netflix adding spree in a minute. Those two were phenomenal, and I loved Claude Raines as Insp. Renault. My husband pointed out that while it was a good movie, there wasn't a clear "hero", but I enjoyed that sort of ambiguousness of the whole thing. There were clear winner and losers, but no one was black and white "good" or "bad". Everyone had their merits and flaws and that's rare to see in movies, even today. Thanks for the recommendation marioinblack! Onward... thegloaming: You get A Fistful of Dollars because I need to start watching some old Westerns and I'd like to get a feel of them from someone whose never seen one before. BTW, has anyone heard of AFI's 10 Top 10? They take ten major film genres (sci-fi, action, romance, etc.) and choose the top 10 of each. I'm trying to work my way through each list, starting with sci-fi, since it's the one I've seen the most of. I suggest everyone take a look at it; it has some great classics which would make good suggestions for a lot of people's lists. Updated list: Scarface and Rocky- No good reasons why I've never seen these two movies. *shrug* Rear Window- I went on an adding spree and put a ton of Hitchcock on my queue and then deleted all of them the next day. I'd like to get started on at least one of his movies. When Harry Met Sally...- One of the classic rom coms. All my girlfriends try to get me to watch this movie and I never do. It doesn't help that I'm not a big fan of Billy Crystal or Meg Ryan. Seven Samurai- One of my husband's favorite films. I even bought the special edition DVD for him. Just never wanted to sit down and watch it, even though I love every other samurai film I've ever seen (mostly the Zaitoichi series). My Neighbor Totoro- I have some friends that are Japanophiles and they love this film. I also enjoyed Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, so I don't know why I haven't seen this yet. Forbidden Planet and The Last Starfighter- I'm a huge sci-fi fan and these are two sci-fi classics that I just haven't seen. Natural Born Killers- I'm not a big fan of Oliver Stone, and I've heard that this film is just violent for violence's sake, so it's never appealed to me on any level. I do like Woody Harrelson though. Additions: The Goonies- I can't remember if I saw this when I was little or haven't seen it at all. All my friends are always like "Hey guys!" and such and I don't get it... Reservoir Dogs- I'm not a Tarantino fan by any means, but I have seen most of his movies because he uses actors that I like. I tried to watch this once and don't remember why I didn't finish it. Star Trek (2009)- I've never seen it, mostly because of nerd rage. I have a friend that claims it's better than all the other ST movies combined, even Wrath of Khan. But we made a deal that if I watch this, then he will watch Godfather 1&2. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly- Another one of those "my husband loves this movie and has been bothering me to see it for years". I've only ever seen two Westerns in my life and I thought they were OK. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)- Another sci-fi classic that I need to watch. The African Queen- Watching Bogart in Casablanca was amazing. This is another one of his greats. Watched: Casablanca 10/10 Skutter fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2010 around 01:34 |
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skutter posted:The Good, The Bad and The Ugly- Another one of those "my husband loves this movie and has been bothering me to see it for years". I've only ever seen two Westerns in my life and I thought they were OK. Wall-E might just be one of the best movies I've ever watched. Certainly the best from Pixar (Note: I haven't seen Cars, Ratatouille, or Up). I love the fact they played this like a silent movie. The message is simple and effective, plus they didn't cram it down your throats. It flowed really well, the editing was fantastic. I really don't have any knocks about it, except maybe I wish it were longer since I left wanting more. marioinblack posted:1. vvvv I meant to quote you to start, but I saw a new post when I previewed so I just changed to his recommendation and forgot to replace the name. marioinblack fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2010 around 02:30 |
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^^^^^^ That makes sense. Skutter, I have already seen a handful of "old" Westerns (e.g. Stagecoach) and Fistful of Dollars is definitely not an old Western. And even if it were considered "old," I've seen another western from the same time period. So you can change your pick if that ruins your plan, otherwise I'll watch Fistful of Dollar anyway because it's supposed to be awesome. thegloaming fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2010 around 02:31 |
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Fitzcarraldo is so  ! It's beautiful and surprisingly uplifting, and you just can't help but root for Fitzcarraldo to suceed. I still can't believe that they actually moved a steamboat over a loving mountain. It was also realy nice to see Kinski in a less unhinged role.As for marioinblack, go see Citizen Kane. I almost said Rear Window, but I just like Citizen Kane more. quote:1. Chinatown - No excuse besides general film deprivation.
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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:7. North by Northwest - I've seen Rear Window, and I'm not really that into Hitchcock, but he's another director I feel like I need to see more of. One of his best, get to it. Finished Lawrence Of Arabia and I was surprised by how...well, surprised I was throughout the film. I didn't know too much about it, so it delving into a pretty dark character study really caught me off guard. The scene where Lawrence admits to enjoying killing really stood out for me. It did take some time before I was really into the movie as I found myself zoning out a few times, but thankfully I eventually got hooked in. Plus, I can't really complain about the length given what PA and thegloaming are trucking through. Updated List: 1) The Diving Bell And The Butterfly - This one's been near the top of my queue forever, but I always have something bumping it down a slot. 2) Network - Been wanting to watch this as of late, someone pick it. 3) Eraserhead - I need to catch up on my David Lynch (I've only seen Blue Velvet  )4) Downfall - Seen far too many stupid youtube videos about this but not the actual film. 5) The Squid And The Whale - Well it 6) Chinatown - Stumped to why I haven't seen this yet as I've had numerous chances. 7) Spirited Away - For some reason anime turns me off, but it's been a while, so I'll give it another shot. This is high on the IMDb top 250 so I figured this would be a good place to try again. 8) One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - No excuse, need to see this. 9) The Deer Hunter - Jumping around the best picture list a bit, but I just realized I've seen Heaven's Gate but not this. What. 10) Terrence Malick - Haven't seen any of his films. Pick one and I'll give it a try.
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JVO, see The Squid and the Whale. It's about as accurate as a movie can get at the look at the break-up of a marriage and what kids go through. And it's also pretty funny at the same time. Saw Badlands. I didn't like it as much as Days of Heaven or The Thin Red Line, but it's still pretty fantastic. Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek are awesome, and Malick's visual sense are as good as ever. Updated list: 1. La Dolce Vita- I haven’t seen enough Fellini 2. Koyaanisqatsi- I own in on video, so watching would be easy, but… 3. Red River- See # 2 4. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid- I loved the Sting, so now I feel the need to see Newman and Redford’s other movie together. Have it recorded. 5. The Apartment- Billy Wilder is a filmmaker I greatly respect, and I love Jack Lemmon, but I never got around to this. Have it recorded. 6. Prizzi’s Honor- I recorded it, but it was never watched, and now I don't have it anymore. But I'd still like to see it. 7. Time Bandits- I love Terry Gilliam, but never got around to this one. 8. The Last Waltz- It’s the only major Scorsese work I haven’t seen 9. The Kingdom- I've seen Dogville but I'm otherwise inexperienced with von Trier. I have it on video and I've started it, but... 10. Charlie Chaplin’s silent films Finally seen: The Searchers, Pather Panchali, The Sting, Ran, The Great Dictator, Fitzcarraldo, Badlands
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thegloaming posted:^^^^^^ That makes sense. Like I said, I've only ever seen two Westerns, and they were new-ish, so any Western before 1980 is old to me, heh. I'll stick with my recommendation, since you seem excited about it.  I'm off to add TGTBTU to my list now.
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meanmikhail posted:7. Time Bandits- I love Terry Gilliam, but never got around to this one. This is the only one I can personally vouch for, so have at. Saw One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Meh. There's a lot of good content, great acting, but it just drags to me. I saw a "Cool Hand Luke" resolution coming from a mile away. Or maybe it's just since I already know about confirmation bias, and real life cases of this stuff, so it's just not surprising. - --The Great Dictator- I don't think I've ever seen a Chaplain film all the way through. -Once Upon a Time in the West- Love Good/Bad/Ugly and so forth, didn't catch this one. -Vertigo- Don't generally like Hitchcock, I've always thought of giving this a chance. -Lawrence of Arabia- Always seemed too* epic for a "just try it". -Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- That chick from Titanic is hot, but something about the marketing threw me off. -Raging Bull- I usually don't jive with deNiro, I didn't even like Taxi Driver. -Inglourious Basterds- Missed it at box office, haven't caught it since. -Brazil- I saw 12 Monkeys, so don't give me that look! -Star Trek(2009)- No matter how many people recommend it, I can't get past the orange/teal/lensflare/shakycam. -Ikiru- On my Netflix queue, but I keep watching other things, I usually prefer more action. edit: I just caught that inappropriate use of "to" and I couldn't help myself. Yargh. TannhauserGate fucked around with this message at Jul 27, 2010 around 17:24 |
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TannhauserGate posted:-Ikiru- On my Netflix queue, but I keep watching other things, I usually prefer more action. This is second only two Seven Semaurai when it comes to Kurosawa films. Watch it. WATCH IT NOW! It's incredible. 1) The Searcher: I am not really into westerns and honestly never heard of this until I saw it brought up in CinD, 2) Schindler's List: It seems like I really should not just go into this film all willy nilly. Still, I really feel I should watch it. 3) The French Connection: I started watching this and just sort of lost interest early on. I'm willing to give it another try though 4) Solaris (the original): I really like the remake, but the original is just so intimidating. Still, I feel like I should watch it. 5) Raging Bull: I also started watching this and sort of lost interest. Really feel I should give it another try. 6) Sex, Lies, and Videotape: I'm a huge an of Steven Soderbergh, yet have not seen this. This needs to be remedied. 7) Cool Hand Luke: Once again, I've meant to watch it, I've just never gotten around to it. 8) 8 1/2: Like most of these, it's a long and intimidating movie that I've really meant to get around to seeing. 9) Stalker: I know nothing about this other than this forum seems to like it, so why the hell not? 10) The Sting: I actually really want to see this...I just always tend to forget about it.
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axleblaze posted:6) Sex, Lies, and Videotape: I'm a huge an of Steven Soderbergh, yet have not seen this. This needs to be remedied. You draw the short straw with me because I haven't seen half of your films and therefore wouldn't be comfortable recommending them. However, if you like Soderbergh already then there is no reason to believe you won't like this one. I am still on a high from seeing American Beauty a few days ago and it reminded me of S,L&V, so you get to benefit from my enjoyment of it. Feel like I'm going to have to hand in my goon badge looking over this list, but here goes: 1) Blade Runner: I've been intending to watch this forever due to all the hype, but I feel like I pretty much know the movie inside out already. 2) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: I am honestly kicking myself right now because after watching Hero I went on an wire kung fu binge, really enjoying House of Flying Daggers and a few others. I never got around to this one and I am almost tempted to remove it from the list in order to watch it right now. 3) Indiana Jones: All of them. I dunno, I always felt like I should have seen these but... 4) Ponyo: I hopped aboard the Ghibli train a few times already and always enjoyed what I saw. 5) Amelie: Again, another movie that I feel like I should have seen, based on it getting a general stamp of approval from other movie buffs. 6) The Prestige: Watching Inception has given me a massive boner for Nolan so I was looking forward to going back and seeing this one. 7) City of God: One of those films that are powerful enough that it seems like a big task, but something I've wanted to watch for a while. 8) A History of Violence: Viggo  9) Let the Right One In: I was a bit burned out on vampires when this first popped up, but I've since learned its supposed to be a pretty good remedy for that exact ailment. 10) Brazil: I love me some Orwellian future but this one always loses out due to some retarded thought process that leads to me more urgently watching newer movies over the older ones. Its like they have already proved themselves when it comes to withstanding the test of time, so they don't mind waiting a little longer. 
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Miles O'Brian, I'm so glad that I get to suggest The Prestige to you. It's one of my favorite movies, and my favorite of Nolan's. Jackman and Bale both do such a fantastic job in this movie (also, Scarlett Johannson plays 'the breasts', which is always nice). Gorgeous movie. I hope you enjoy it. I watched Infernal Affairs. This seems like one of those movies where you'll prefer the original or the remake depending on which you've seen first. I'd seen The Departed before this, and generally preferred it over the original. This movie is a good example of how a bad soundtrack can ruin an otherwise fantastic movie. The music tried too hard to accentuate the panic or sorrow in a scene and ended up sounding kind of hokey. I feel like Scorsese had a better handle on the pacing of the film in the remake as well. Overall, I enjoyed it for the slightly different take on the story, but prefer the Scorsese remake for its score, pacing, and characterization. My list: 1)The Man Who Wasn't There - I love the Coen brothers. This movie has been on my instant queue for a while but I haven't sat down to watch it yet. Looks great. 2) In Cold Blood - Have heard this is good, but it's not a movie the girlfriend would enjoy and we usually watch movies together. 3) The Last Temptation of Christ - I love Scorsese, and this is one of the few movies he's put out that I haven't seen. 4) Rob Roy - A friend tells me that I'd really like this movie. Liam Neeson doesn't disappoint, so I should probably listen to him. 5) The Killing - I tend to enjoy Kubrick's work. Haven't seen this or Lolita and would like to at some point. 6) The Third Man - I've heard from several people that this is a great story. I'd like to see it sometime. 7) The Lady Vanishes or anything else Hitchcock - I've seen Psycho and Vertigo, but I really want to see some other stuff by him. 8) THX 1138 - I've had this on my netflix instant queue for a while, but haven't gotten around to watching it. I like those space movies that this guy made later on. I also haven't seen American Graffiti, so that could go in here. 9) M - Sounds interesting. It has been on my instant queue for a while. 10)Jaws - I've seen bits on TV and have seen the ending, but have never actually sat down to watch this. Finally watched: Battlefield Earth (don't watch this), Seven Samurai, The Seventh Seal, Dawn of the Dead, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?, Infernal Affairs
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For you Jolo, I'll go with Jaws. As much as I love movies, my list would be way too long if I listed them all. I'll just focus on the ones that interest me the most. The French Connection - Owned this on DVD forever, just never got around to it for some reason. Any of Hitchcock's films - They honestly all seem like they would be some of my favorite movies if I ever got around to them. No idea why I never have though. A Clockwork Orange and The Shining - I guess I haven't seen much of Kubrick at all, except 2001, but these are the two that most interest me. Raging Bull - Scorcese, DeNiro, Boxing. I don't know how it could possibly go wrong. Still never got me to watch it though. Seven Samurai - loved Rashomon, but that's the only Kurosawa film I've ever seen. Spartacus - I'm a big fan of period epics, but the only time I ever saw any of this was just a small portion in high school. Metropolis - Never knew much about this until recently. But I've read a little bit about it lately because of the new restoration. Looks interesting.
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Diabolik900 - watch The Seven Samurai. It's really awesome. So I watched Ali: Fear Eats the Soul and it was great. There were some very tender, heart-warming moments, and also some parts that just make your heart break. It's all so well done and really drives home some less than pleasant realities of the worlds people live in. Updated list: The Idiots - I'm a big Von Trier fan, but I still haven't seen this one (or any of his early ones other than The Element of Crime) The Piano Teacher - I love the Haneke films I've seen (Cache and White Ribbon and I even liked both Funny Games) Bad Education - I like the Almodovars I've seen and I've been meaning to see this one for a while, but I just never got around to it. Belle de jour - I've seen a few Bunuels, including The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie which was awesome. So this has been on my list of movies to see for a while, so this would motivate me to finally watching it. The Birth of a Nation - The length on this one is a tad discouraging. I haven't watched any other silents that are quite this long. I'm also worried the movie will piss me off, so that makes the length even more discouraging. It's pretty much the most "canon" film period, though, so I do still want to see it. Man with a Movie Camera - I had actually never heard of this until I came upon it on the Internet Archive a few years ago. It looks intriguing, but I do kind of worry that I won't really "get" it. Babel - I've seen Amores perros and this one's gotten some really good (and some less good) reactions El Topo - I've never seen anything by Jodorowsky and I don't really know anything about this one, except it's supposed to be weird as hell so I figure it's as good of a place to start as any La dolce vita - I've seen quite a few Fellinis, but not this one yet. Berlin Alexanderplatz - Since people seem to be taking the jump on this, I guess I'll throw my hat into it. I'm expecting the length will make me want to kill myself at least once or twice during it.
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dotCommunism posted:Berlin Alexanderplatz - Since people seem to be taking the jump on this, I guess I'll throw my hat into it. I'm expecting the length will make me want to kill myself at least once or twice during it. I'm a little over half way through and it's great, but I'm glad I didn't try to do it all in one go. Every chapter gives you just enough to make you want to see the next one, but also has just enough closure that you can watch it over several nights. That way when you start to feel a little bored you can stop and pick it up later or the next day. It actually feels incredibly like reading a good book, not just because of the chapters but the characterization, the occasional voice overs, and the pacing are all different from any film or TV series I've ever seen. I might try to finish it up tomorrow but if not then I'll certainly be done Thursday.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:That's funny, your review on criticker says you wouldn't watch [Berlin Alexanderplatz] again. I guess time changes one's perspective on these things. I just realized I totally forgot to respond to this. Yeah, I'd give it another go. I watched the bulk of it over two days, so by the time I got to the epilogue, I was pretty fatigued with it. If I were to do it again, I'd stretch it out more.
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dotCommunism, it is my pleasure to tell you to go watch El Topo. If you like it, definitely go catch Holy Mountain as well. Hiroshima Mon Amour was remarkably better than I was expecting. I found myself fascinated by the characters and by Resnais' use of light. The setting was especially profound, and I felt that the screenwriters do a great job of making you care about the characters before you see them apparently lose who they are. Sheldrake posted:Here's my list: Seen: Hiroshima Mon Amour 8/10
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Sheldrake, you get Clockers. I have mixed feelings about Spike Lee's films in general, and I'd be interested in your opinion. I watched High And Low and I was very impressed with it. The plot had more to it than I thought it would; I didn't expect the detectives to recover Shinichi in the first act, but it worked really well. Mifune gives his usual awesome performance. My favorite Kurosawa movies are the ones where Mifune and Nakadai work together. I think they played well off each other, plus I think Kurosawa came to realize that Nakadai has strengths and weaknesses Mifune didn't. I've noticed that Nakadai can take on a wider variety of roles than Mifune could, although Mifune could make a role more memorable than Nakadai. I noticed the 2.35:1 aspect ratio, which I thought was an unusual choice for a crime movie like this. It worked, though. The main theme of the movie was clearly the disparity between rich and poor. You can see it in the way Gondo interacted with Bos'n, Aoki, Kawanishi, and especially Takeuchi, and even Kingo was on the other side of this with Reiko, since he married into her money. The aspect ratio helped sell this theme. It also helped with some close-together scenes that contrasted greatly, like Junkie Alley and the club or the busy street and the relatively tranquil and empty hideout. The one use of color in the film blindsided me, but it certainly made an impression. The other theme seemed to be risk. Every major character took risks, and they all paid off to a varying degree. In any case, I really enjoyed the movie. American Graffiti: I always wanted to see George Lucas' work before his Star Wars success made him all fat and happy. Plus, there's something about Mort Drucker's poster that makes me 2-3 times as interested in it. Amores perros: I really enjoyed 21 Grams and I liked Babel okay. I've been putting off this movie forever; even I don't know why. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: This movie gets referenced in pop culture so much that I feel like I'm missing something by not having seen it. Also, I've only seen extremely little of Newman and Redford in their heyday. Carlito's Way: I've seen as many mob movies as any self-respecting 20-something American male, but not only have I not seen this one, but somehow I managed not to know anything about this movie except that it stars Pacino. Casablanca: From what I've heard, I get a feeling seeing this is a prerequisite for calling oneself a film buff. City of God: Don't know much about it, but Netflix swears up and down I'll like it because I loved Y Tu Mamá También. So what the hell. F for Fake: I think art forgery is interesting and I think Orson Welles is interesting. I thought Citizen Kane was the kind of movie that I'd only enjoy watching once, and that turned out to be true, so I'm looking forward and not looking forward to this one at the same time. Grand Slam: I've had this movie for a while and I keep putting it off. I love heist films, but for some reason I can't stop thinking this movie is going to be boring as hell. The Maltese Falcon: Even though I think Bogart is hideous in appearance, I really, really enjoyed The Big Sleep. It made me realize I need to see a lot more noir. Where Eagles Dare: The thing that stuck with me about Inglourious Basterds is that I felt like Tarantino was assuming the viewer knows a lot about war movies that I didn't. So I went on a World War II binge, but I didn't get to this movie.
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CloseFriend you get City of God. Coming a little late to the thread but here's my list. Casablanca - I'm going to be honest and say that if a film's not in colour I usually don't give it a look in. It's ridiculous and stupid, I know. Recently though, I've been putting aside my child-like motives and have been enjoying some black-and-white classics. 2001: A Space Odyssey - I don't think I've ever actually had the opportunity to watch this, but have heard great things. Amadeus - I've always thought I'd find it boring, but at the same time, have never even given it a go. Seven Samurai - This has the whole subtitles AND black-and-white thing going against it. I've never had chance to give this the time it deserves as I've heard it's a masterpiece. Once Upon A Time In America - I've seen pretty much every other Sergio Leone movie and thoroughly enjoyed them. The fact this one isn't set in the desert kind of put me off, though. I just assumed some of Leone's style would be lost. Bande á part - I bought this on DVD knowing it shared the name with Tarantino's production company. Never got round to watching it, though. Jackie Brown - While we're on the subject of Tarantino, this is another film that has never compelled me to watch it, despite a friend of mine relentlessly quoting Samuel Jackson's lines. Children of Men - I've sort of watched this but did a really bad job of doing so. I must have been doing something else, or going to sleep to it. I only realised I hadn't watched it properly when a friend asked if I'd seen it, I said yes, then they went on to talk about something I had no recollection of. Badlands - All I know is, True Romance copied it's theme tune. Downfall - It's another subtitled one I'm afraid. I can be a bit lazy like that, sometimes. All I've seen is the countless interminable parodies online.
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mikewozere: Amadeus. What's the most distinct laugh in the world? You will know the answer to this question, amongst many others, after you have seen the amazing Amadeus. I watched my recommendation of A Streetcar Named Desire and I'll say that it now holds the distinction of the best acted movie I've seen. drat was it good. Didn't much like Gone with the Wind so hadn't really considered Vivien Leigh to be one of the greats until watching this...she most definitely is. Updated List: Mr. Smith Goes to Washington - Going to try to stick with a theme as I cross movies off. Kind of easy with both Capra and Stewart. Dancer in the Dark - I have seen one von Trier movie, which I thoroughly hated. However, I believe this film will be a bit more accessible, so I'll give him another try I suppose. I've also wanted to see this movie for a while, but never had occasion to watch it. East of Eden - I have seen Rebel Without a Cause and fell asleep halfway through Giant with little interest in returning (oh it's "sprawling" alright), but the one film of Mr. Dean's that I haven't seen is East of Eden. Also directed by Elia Kazan. I am eager to see this one. The Elephant Man - David Lynch done good on this one I hear. A Man for All Seasons - Also based on a play, this beat Virginia Woolf in nearly every category in the Oscars en route to a near-sweep of its categories. Surely must be good (I think?). This wasn't ever on my RADAR, and I have no clue what it's about outside of characters, but now I'm looking forward to it. Stand by Me - Until a couple of months ago I wasn't aware that there was a movie titled Stand by Me; I had only heard the title in reference to the song on the oldies station. Apparently it's not only a movie, but one that many people like. Nights of Cabiria - Would like to continue with the Fellini filmography (feel free to recommend an alternate Fellini work!). Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas - I'm not sure how I have never seen this. I know what it's about...I think. And I know of and about Hunter S. Thompson. But I have never seen one second of this film. The Last Waltz - Well-reviewed documentary directed by Scorsese, but the fact that much of the focus is on music performances hasn't ever turned me on to this. City Lights - Never had any interest in watching this movie, but I gather it's rather brilliant for the times (or any time).
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Wow. What an epic. And that laugh! Was that just some sort of artistic flourish they included or was it well documented that Mozart laughed like a lunatic? I really enjoyed this film. The first 2 hours had me laughing out loud in places, especially the part in the masquerade where Mozart looks to his father and his mask is frowning. And Mozart isn't happy. But then it turns out the mask in on the back of his head and his father turns around to reveal a beaming smile in mask form. And Mozart is happy again. And then his father lifts the mask to reveal a frown. And once more, Mozart is unhappy. Salieri's bitterness and deceit were brilliantly portrayed. You can really sense the "fire that never dies, burning him forever." I thought it was interesting how he would never lie about the music though and it showed the enormous torment at the heart of Salieri. He was always honest in confessing the brilliance of the music and both Mozart and Salieri looked to impress one another and were both indeed impressed by one another. I liked the way the music flooded the screen whenever a piece was being read by Mozart of Salieri as it really gave an insight into their minds. The scene where they are both composing together was one of my favourites and you see Salieri finally begin to feel the way in which Mozart composes his music and you sense for the first time Salieri being impressed by Mozart's character and passion, and not just his music. It was almost redeeming. Anyway...Arkane: Stand By Me. It's a cornyish coming of age 80's tale but I love it. Hopefully you will too. Updated list: Casablanca - I'm going to be honest and say that if a film's not in colour I usually don't give it a look in. It's ridiculous and stupid, I know. Recently though, I've been putting aside my child-like motives and have been enjoying some black-and-white classics. 2001: A Space Odyssey - I don't think I've ever actually had the opportunity to watch this, but have heard great things. Rear Window - Expect more Hitchcock films to be added to this list as I don't think I've seen any. I'm not even too sure why. I think my film taste has matured a lot since the last time I had the opportunity to watch one of his films and neglected to. I've been skim-reading Empire magazines Hitchcock specials though and am fully aware of his genius. Seven Samurai - This has the whole subtitles AND black-and-white thing going against it. I've never had chance to give this the time it deserves as I've heard it's a masterpiece. Once Upon A Time In America - I've seen pretty much every other Sergio Leone movie and thoroughly enjoyed them. The fact this one isn't set in the desert kind of put me off, though. I just assumed some of Leone's style would be lost. Bande á part - I bought this on DVD knowing it shared the name with Tarantino's production company. Never got round to watching it, though. Jackie Brown - While we're on the subject of Tarantino, this is another film that has never compelled me to watch it, despite a friend of mine relentlessly quoting Samuel Jackson's lines. Children of Men - I've sort of watched this but did a really bad job of doing so. I must have been doing something else, or going to sleep to it. I only realised I hadn't watched it properly when a friend asked if I'd seen it, I said yes, then they went on to talk about something I had no recollection of. Badlands - All I know is, True Romance copied it's theme tune. Downfall - It's another subtitled one I'm afraid. I can be a bit lazy like that, sometimes. All I've seen is the countless interminable parodies online.
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mikewozere, watch Seven Samurai. We've got to break your aversion to black and white films. I'd suggest Casablanca because it's shorter, but I don't think it's the right one for you. If you like the epics, this is the epic to see. Finally watched A Fistful of Dollars. It was enjoyable, and a faithful adaptation, but it made me want to see Yojimbo again. It didn't really feel like a western, certainly not the kind I've come to expect of Leone; I definitely prefer it when he's tackling grand scale adventures. Also finally watched Persona. It's undeniably a singular work of art, but I couldn't really get into it. It was too theoretical; I didn't feel anything for the characters. I think I have a problem. It's a real shame too, because if I'm not into Bergman by now, I might want to consider throwing in the towel. My updated list: Stalker — I want to get into Tarkovsky, and I'm familiar with the computer game (not expecting many similarities, though). Schindler's List — It's a "great film" I've avoided because I don't want to feel manipulated by Spielberg. Breathless — I don't know if I'm a Godard person or a Truffaut person. I don't think I'm either, but maybe seeing this will prove me wrong. The Rules of the Game — While I feel bad for not seeing more Bergman or Fellini, I absolutely must see more Renoir. I don't know anything about this other than it's good. Any film by Satyajit Ray — FFD raves about this guy and I'm curious about Indian cinema. North by Northwest — I really want to know why a plane would chase Cary Grant in a corn maze, dammit. Predator — Someone in the Predators thread told me I needed to see the original in order to truly understand how bad the most recent one is. Is this the one where Arnold tells people to get to the chopper? Once Upon a Time in the West — More Leone. I hear this has Morricone at his peak, and since I loved the score in his other movies, I kind of want to see it for that reason alone. Tokyo Story — Good Morning was all right, but I don't think it went anywhere interesting. Ozu is shaping up to be another great director I'll never understand; hopefully this will change things. Barry Lyndon — Another Kubrick movie I have yet to see. Haven't bothered before because of the length. Finally watched: Goodfellas; The Godfather; The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly; Casablanca; The Incredibles; The Godfather, Part II; Aguirre, The Wrath of God, 12 Angry Men; A Clockwork Orange; A Fistful of Dynamite; Persona
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thegloaming, you get to watch Stalker. I watched Pan's Labyrinth and I found it to be exceptional. I was expecting it to not live up to the internet's hype but it truly deserves most of the praise it gets. My only gripes are that sometimes the CGI was really evident and distracting and that the villain was a few steps away from being a cartoon. But the acting and photography were wonderful and allowed me to look past all that. It’s a great film that left me feeling like I had been punched in the gut at the end. 9.2/10 My Shameful List: 1. Vertigo – I’ve watched a criminally small amount of Hitchcock. 2. The Rules of the Game – I’m going down the TSPDT list and this is right after Vertigo, I don't know much about it though. 3. 8 ½ - I've never watched a single Fellini film and I figured I'd start with this. 4. Tokyo Story – It's the same with Ozu films. 5. Barry Lyndon – One of the last films by Kubrick I need to see and I hear it's very underrated. 6. The Trial – Orson Welles says it's his best film, and I'll take his word on it. 7. Rear Window – Like I said, I need to watch more Hitchcock. 8. M – I’ve had the DVD since Christmas 9. Ikiru – One of the famous Kurosawa films I haven’t seen yet. 10. Amadeus – Looks good, but I don't know which version to watch. Watched: Raging Bull – 9.7, The New World – 9.4, Pan’s Labyrinth – 9.2
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thegloaming posted:Also finally watched Persona. It's undeniably a singular work of art, but I couldn't really get into it. It was too theoretical; I didn't feel anything for the characters. I think I have a problem. It's a real shame too, because if I'm not into Bergman by now, I might want to consider throwing in the towel.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Which Bergman films have you seen? It's strange to me that you felt Persona to be theoretical, I found it to be pure emotion. Very little, but I feel like I've seen the heavy-hitters: Seventh Seal (which I actually liked), and Wild Strawberries (which I enjoyed but couldn't really get into). I can definitely see the appeal and I don't feel like I'm missing something; I'm just not connecting with these drat Swedes. I'll give Fanny & Alexander, Scenes from a Marriage, and Cries & Whispers a shot. Peaceful Anarchy posted:How's Berlin Alexanderplatz coming? I told my friend about watching it and he wants in too. The disc just arrived and we're going to attempt the first two tonight, but we'll probably just get through one.
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thegloaming posted:I'll give Fanny & Alexander, Scenes from a Marriage, and Cries & Whispers a shot. I'm not sure you'll like Cries and Whispers but the other two are musts.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:I'm not sure you'll like Cries and Whispers but the other two are musts. Duly noted. As for Persona being too "theoretical," I don't mean that it was mechanical. But all the experimental techniques and the self-reflexive nods really took me out of the characters' mutual dilemma. I still enjoyed the film on those terms, but I wish I could have felt more.
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thegloaming posted:Duly noted. I'm completely with you on Persona, which I haven't enjoyed as much as any of the other Bergman I've seen (admittedly, very little). If you liked Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries, I think you'll like his other work. Try The Virgin Spring - it's not always considered one of the "biggies", but it's accessible and fascinating.
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Nroo: Enjoy the life of a certain Mister Barry Lyndon, although I'm not sure its underrated as much as underseen. I was recommended Stand by Me and while I generally liked the movie and loved the idea of the ending, I felt it was too short. I barely knew the kids and wasn't that involved with the concluding arc of the story....but then again I guess the narrator barely knew their personal lives either. On one positive note, I'm thinking about integrating into my upcoming Best Man speech a variation on that final line: "I never had any friends later on like the ones that I had when I was twelve." True story, man. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington - Going to try to stick with a theme as I cross movies off. Kind of easy with both Capra and Stewart. Dancer in the Dark - I have seen one von Trier movie, which I thoroughly hated. However, I believe this film will be a bit more accessible, so I'll give him another try I suppose. I've also wanted to see this movie for a while, but never had occasion to watch it. East of Eden - I have seen Rebel Without a Cause and fell asleep halfway through Giant with little interest in returning (oh it's "sprawling" alright), but the one film of Mr. Dean's that I haven't seen is East of Eden. Also directed by Elia Kazan. I am eager to see this one. The Elephant Man - David Lynch done good on this one I hear. A Man for All Seasons - Also based on a play, this beat Virginia Woolf in nearly every category in the Oscars en route to a near-sweep of its categories. Surely must be good (I think?). This wasn't ever on my RADAR, and I have no clue what it's about outside of characters, but now I'm looking forward to it. Hannah and her Sisters - I've seen pretty much all of Woody Allen's early work and all of his recent work, but nothing in between. Seems like a good enough place to start. Nights of Cabiria - Would like to continue with the Fellini filmography (feel free to recommend an alternate Fellini work!). Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas - I'm not sure how I have never seen this. I know what it's about...I think. And I know of and about Hunter S. Thompson. But I have never seen one second of this film. The Last Waltz - Well-reviewed documentary directed by Scorsese, but the fact that much of the focus is on music performances hasn't ever turned me on to this. City Lights - Never had any interest in watching this movie, but I gather it's rather brilliant for the times (or any time).
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Arkane posted:
Fear and loathing for you. It's hilarious most of the way through. Lawrence of Arabia no excuse Blade Runner Read the book but never got around to seeing the movie All quiet on the Western Front no excuse , but i like war films on the whole Thin Red Line Same as above 8 1/2 Hadn't even heard of it until a week or so ago Predator Never noticed it at the video shop or seen it on tv or been particularly driven to find it. Brazil Same as above , but I've liked most of Gilliam's films that I've seen. Any Woody Allen films Open to recommendation
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rangi, watch Annie Hall. Seven Samurai was incredible. It didn't feel its length at all. Everything on screen developed story and/or character, and was beautifully shot as well. I was a little wary of Toshiro Mifune at first, because I found him almost too much to handle in Rashomon, but his, uh, energy really lent itself to the character of Kikuchiyo. A Fistful of Dollars I hated westerns when I was younger. Funnily enough the one that changed my mind was The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Still not sure why I haven't seen the first two. The Conformist Just recently found out about this movie, and it has not yet made it up my Netflix. Sunrise Same as The Conformist The African Queen Once again, no good reason. The Rules of the Game Honestly never even heard of this film. La Dolce Vita Saw 8 1/2, liked it well enough, but haven't gone any further into Fellini's films. The Gold Rush Continuing my Chaplin journey. Breathless Never seen any Godard. Apocalypse Now Pretty much the same reason I had for Dr. Strangelove, though I've had less people tell me I'll like this. Ordet Excited to watch this after having recently seen The Passion of Joan of Arc. Finally watched: Lawrence of Arabia, Annie Hall, Vertigo, Braveheart, Battleship Potemkin, It's a Wonderful Life, Tokyo Story, The Bicycle Thief, Rashomon, Night of the Hunter, La Grande Illusion, City Lights, The Grapes of Wrath, The General, Les Enfants Du Paradis, Dr. Strangelove, The Passion of Joan of Arc, Seven Samurai
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tokillthesunflower: watch Breathless. Definitely a good intro to Godard So I watched El Topo yesterday. Definitely a weird movie. It was more coherent than I expected in the sense that I could tell what was happening, but it was much less coherent in the sense of understanding what happened. I'm not sure I get it, but it was definitely interesting and fascinating. Updated list: The Idiots - I'm a big Von Trier fan, but I still haven't seen this one (or any of his early ones other than The Element of Crime) The Piano Teacher - I love the Haneke films I've seen (Cache and White Ribbon and I even liked both Funny Games) Bad Education - I like the Almodovars I've seen and I've been meaning to see this one for a while, but I just never got around to it. Belle de jour - I've seen a few Bunuels, including The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie which was awesome. So this has been on my list of movies to see for a while, so this would motivate me to finally watching it. The Birth of a Nation - The length on this one is a tad discouraging. I haven't watched any other silents that are quite this long. I'm also worried the movie will piss me off, so that makes the length even more discouraging. It's pretty much the most "canon" film period, though, so I do still want to see it. Man with a Movie Camera - I had actually never heard of this until I came upon it on the Internet Archive a few years ago. It looks intriguing, but I do kind of worry that I won't really "get" it. Babel - I've seen Amores perros and this one's gotten some really good (and some less good) reactions Shoot the Piano Player - I love Truffaut and have seen several of his films, and love the French New Wave in general, so I'll throw this one in here. La dolce vita - I've seen quite a few Fellinis, but not this one yet. Berlin Alexanderplatz - Since people seem to be taking the jump on this, I guess I'll throw my hat into it. I'm expecting the length will make me want to kill myself at least once or twice during it.
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Just got done watching Seven Samurai too. It was a good film but not up there with my favourites I'm afraid. I really struggled with the character of Kikuchiyo...I mean, he's just a bit of a dick really and I don't know why they all tolerated him. Great with kids though and I did laugh out loud when he's breaking that horse in. I knew what was going to happen as soon as he disappeared behind the fencing, but still laughed when the horse emerged without him on it. Have to say too, Kyuzo is one of the coolest characters ever. "yeah killed two, got a gun, gonna sleep now." Felt pretty sorry for Katsushiro in the end. He was clearly heartbroken. It made me laugh when everyone else is basically patting his back after he DESTROYS the farmer's daughter. Not too sure what to recommend for you, dotCommunism as I haven't seen any of that list. I'm just going to pick one and hope that's allowed. Maybe you're review of it will spur me to include it in my future list. So, you get Belle de jour as you seem eager to watch it. Updated List: Casablanca - I'm going to be honest and say that if a film's not in colour I usually don't give it a look in. It's ridiculous and stupid, I know. Recently though, I've been putting aside my child-like motives and have been enjoying some black-and-white classics. 2001: A Space Odyssey - I don't think I've ever actually had the opportunity to watch this, but have heard great things. Rear Window - Expect more Hitchcock films to be added to this list as I don't think I've seen any. I'm not even too sure why. I think my film taste has matured a lot since the last time I had the opportunity to watch one of his films and neglected to. I've been skim-reading Empire magazines Hitchcock specials though and am fully aware of his genius. The Magnificent Seven - Seems fitting to replace Seven Samurai with this. Westerns are genre that's almost completely missing from my repertoire, having only really watched Sergio Leone's and some of the more modern, post 90's ones. I put this down to my Dad's ceaseless watching of them when I was growing up and him being able to actually quote the next lines in pretty much any Western that was on. Once Upon A Time In America - I've seen pretty much every other Sergio Leone movie and thoroughly enjoyed them. The fact this one isn't set in the desert kind of put me off, though. I just assumed some of Leone's style would be lost. Bande á part - I bought this on DVD knowing it shared the name with Tarantino's production company. Never got round to watching it, though. Jackie Brown - While we're on the subject of Tarantino, this is another film that has never compelled me to watch it, despite a friend of mine relentlessly quoting Samuel Jackson's lines. Children of Men - I've sort of watched this but did a really bad job of doing so. I must have been doing something else, or going to sleep to it. I only realised I hadn't watched it properly when a friend asked if I'd seen it, I said yes, then they went on to talk about something I had no recollection of. Badlands - All I know is, True Romance copied it's theme tune. Downfall - It's another subtitled one I'm afraid. I can be a bit lazy like that, sometimes. All I've seen is the countless interminable parodies online. Oh and if I could get one under 3 hours long, that would be appreciated. mikewozere fucked around with this message at Jul 29, 2010 around 18:36 |
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mikewozere posted:I really struggled with the character of Kikuchiyo...I mean, he's just a bit of a dick really and I don't know why they all tolerated him. Kikuchiyo is the bridge between the samurai and the farmers. The samurai (actually ronin -- samurai who no longer have a master) are high-class dudes. Although they've fallen on hard times, they don't know anything about poverty and helplessness. Meanwhile the farmers are suspicious of the samurai, they think they're going to gently caress them over and surprise sex all their women. Kikuchiyo is the only one who understands both sides, and both sides understand him. He has his desire to ascend to this higher caste, but also knows how the farmers suffer and stands up for them. He's really the linchpin of the whole movie.
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Ahh I see. That bit where he cries wolf when the Samurai are first in the camp, I thought he was going to get a whooping, but it turned out to be a very effective way of introducing both sides.
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mikewozere posted:Just got done watching Seven Samurai too. It was a good film but not up there with my favourites I'm afraid. I really struggled with the character of Kikuchiyo...I mean, he's just a bit of a dick really and I don't know why they all tolerated him. Great with kids though and I did laugh out loud when he's breaking that horse in. I knew what was going to happen as soon as he disappeared behind the fencing, but still laughed when the horse emerged without him on it. As someone who is into history and just started his adventure into German cinema, I command you to watch Downfall My 10 Films 1. Chinatown. Never watched a Polanski film before in my life. Also am ashamed for never watching one of the best movies of one of my favorite cinema decade 2. No Country for Old Men. Only watched Raising Arizona and feel that I am missing out on one of the movies of the past decade. 3. The Bridge on the River Kwai. I'm a history nerd and I've been starting to get into the late 50s/early 60s due to Mad Men and what a better way to start on cinema of that era by watching one of the most well known war movies of that era. 4. North by Northwest. Sort of the same ideas as the previous point. However, I did watch part of it but fell asleep due to it being on really late at night. 5. Cool Hand Luke. As a younger movie nerd I feel that I missed out on the work of Paul Newman. I want to correct that mistake. 6. Capote. Read In Cold Blood recently. Want to see use this movie as a supplement to the book. 7. Manhunter. Saw Silence of the Lambs and didn't know there was a prequel. Only know William Petersen as Grissom on CSI and would be an interesting film to watch 8. The King of Comedy. Big Scorsese and De Niro fan. Heard that this film is a real gem to watch and I want to explore it 9. And Justice for All. Early Pacino + black humor + trial film = want to see 10. Airport. One of the first major disaster movies and both a critical and financial success.
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Tropicana posted:5. Cool Hand Luke. As a younger movie nerd I feel that I missed out on the work of Paul Newman. I want to correct that mistake. Double edit: Ignore me! Watch Cool Hand Luke! It's great! So The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was loving amazing. If you will allow me, I would like to express my feelings in smiley form. At first I was like  , but then I was all  and at the end I was totally  . I know everyone talks up Eastwood in all of his cowboy glory, but I think Eli Wallach was the star of that movie. He was great as Tuco and I was glad that he didn't die at the end. Lee Van Cleef was awesome of course, and he was especially great during the Mexican stand-off at the end. I was surprised at how diverse the scenery was. It wasn't just old Western-style towns and desert, but battlefields, churches, homes, etc. and that really helped it I think. I loved how every time Tuco and Blondie were on top, they pretty much got knocked right back down again, especially every time they got near the Union or the Confederacy. What a great movie.My new list: Scarface and Rocky- No good reasons why I've never seen these two movies. *shrug* Rear Window- I went on an adding spree and put a ton of Hitchcock on my queue and then deleted all of them the next day. I'd like to get started on at least one of his movies. When Harry Met Sally...- One of the classic rom coms. All my girlfriends try to get me to watch this movie and I never do. It doesn't help that I'm not a big fan of Billy Crystal or Meg Ryan. Seven Samurai- One of my husband's favorite films. I even bought the special edition DVD for him. Just never wanted to sit down and watch it, even though I love every other samurai film I've ever seen (mostly the Zaitoichi series). My Neighbor Totoro- I have some friends that are Japanophiles and they love this film. I also enjoyed Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, so I don't know why I haven't seen this yet. Forbidden Planet and The Last Starfighter- I'm a huge sci-fi fan and these are two sci-fi classics that I just haven't seen. Natural Born Killers- I'm not a big fan of Oliver Stone, and I've heard that this film is just violent for violence's sake, so it's never appealed to me on any level. I do like Woody Harrelson though. The Goonies- I can't remember if I saw this when I was little or haven't seen it at all. All my friends are always like "Hey guys!" and such and I don't get it... Reservoir Dogs- I'm not a Tarantino fan by any means, but I have seen most of his movies because he uses actors that I like. I tried to watch this once and don't remember why I didn't finish it. Star Trek (2009)- I've never seen it, mostly because of nerd rage. I have a friend that claims it's better than all the other ST movies combined, even Wrath of Khan. But we made a deal that if I watch this, then he will watch Godfather 1&2. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)- Another sci-fi classic that I need to watch. The African Queen- Watching Bogart in Casablanca was amazing. This is another one of his greats. Watched: Casablanca 10/10, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 10/10 Skutter fucked around with this message at Jul 30, 2010 around 00:59 |
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Skutter posted:Edit: I was going to suggest Cool Hand Luke until I saw that you had Airport listed. You must see this right now! My husband made me watch it and it's definitely worth it for the Kareem Abdul Jabar jokes alone. You're thinking of Airplane!, which was actually a parody of the movie that this guy had listed.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:You're thinking of Airplane!, which was actually a parody of the movie that this guy had listed. Oh my god, you're right. I'm an idiot. I think I'll switch it back to CHL. 
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ClydeUmney posted:Try The Virgin Spring - it's not always considered one of the "biggies", but it's accessible and fascinating. Thanks for this suggestion. I just watched it and it's shot Bergman up on my list. I think I like the pastoral Bergman best. What are some others I should seek out?
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thegloaming posted:Thanks for this suggestion. I just watched it and it's shot Bergman up on my list. I think I like the pastoral Bergman best. What are some others I should seek out? Sawdust and Tinsel, Autumn Sonata, Smiles of a Summer Night and Summer With Monika, of the ones I've seen I think you might like. I'm sure FFD will come in at some point with a bigger list.
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