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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
The ideal situation would've been to just burn the lot of them so that they couldn't come back and give birth to all the baby boomers, who are the real scourge.

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married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender
Hey now they made some good movies for us, the cool and smart generation who doesn't suck, to watch. Anyone seen any movies lately? I'm still shamefully procrastinating on Stagecoach.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

IM_DA_DECIDER posted:

Anyone seen any movies lately? I'm still shamefully procrastinating on Stagecoach.

I'm still waiting for my Cocktail DVD. Netflix should really do drone drops of DVDs because the USPS is taking too long.

Jurgan posted:

So what if they captured an American soldier named Bernstein or some other clearly Jewish name? Would they treat them as soldiers or would they get shuffled off to a different kind of camp? (This is a major derail, but people seem interested.)

That's a really broad question considering the scale of WWII. From the books I've read a lot of these scenarios and circumstances played out haphazardly. One prisoner gets to live another day, one is killed and one is transferred to another camp. All on the whims of overseers who seem to make decisions by rolling a pair of dice.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I've been watching about one movie every day but I can't start on my next one until someone watches one of theirs and gives me an assignment.

Chili
Jan 23, 2004

college kids ain't shit


Fun Shoe

Basebf555 posted:

I've been watching about one movie every day but I can't start on my next one until someone watches one of theirs and gives me an assignment.

Heh, I've gotten stuck like that. Just watch acc extra and do a double review on your next one.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Oh believe me, I have a watch list that is 15 pages long and I probably can't get through it all in one lifetime. Hell, just taking Bergman and John Ford into account I have about 50 movies I need to see at some point.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Basebf555, watch Rebecca.

When we talk about underground films in the west today, we really mean cult movies. Weird acid films by the likes of Jodorowsky, Lynch and other surrealist weirdos. The term however originally referred to avant-garde works, short subjects that played with light and taboo, many of which were banned or provoked violent reactions through their sexual and political revelations. But even then, nobody ever risked their lives at the hands of a fascist dictatorship to watch a Kenneth Anger movie in a New York basement. Distributors and theater managers might be arrested for showing Flaming Creatures, but no one needed to fear being arrested, taken out upstate and shot - left to bleed out in a ditch, bound and gagged.

The Hour of the Furnaces is a true underground piece of filmmaking. Illegal, radical, it is a call to overthrow the Argentinian government circa 1968. To properly understand it I needed to read up on some of the historical context surrounding the country's history and Juan Peron. But the quick rundown is that up until the 1930s Argentina was an up-and-coming nation, rapidly becoming one of the most prosperous in the world. But things quickly unraveled in the years leading up to World War II following a coup d'etat. In the mid-40s, Peron was elected president and through his blend of liberal economic policies and fascist-styled nationalism he was able to bring about a revival in Argentina, greatly increasing the amount of schools and jobs, establishing a dominant Argentine political philosophy known as Peronism. Widely popular, Peron still had his enemies and in 1955 was overthrown by another coup which forced him into exile in Spain. A decade of unrest and a few coups later, a military dictatorship was installed in 1966, which lead to the left-wing guerilla reaction that we see in Hour of the Furnaces.

Inspired by Cuba and other Socialist/Marxist revolutions, Hour of the Furnaces is broken into three sections. Part I is more emotional and angry, using more artistic editing to get across the plight of the people and the growing discontent and violence. Part II focuses more on the history, explaining Peron's rise and fall and the desire to reinstate a left-wing Peronist government. The section ends by asking the audience to discuss what they've seen. Part III is something of an epilogue, only 30 minutes long it actively calls for armed rebellion and revolution, daring the west to try to stop them.

When I watch these kinds of essay screed films it can be hard to retain everything said, especially when they're as long as this one. But the passion is fierce and vibrant. Using a mixture of stock and original footage we see Argentina circa the revolution, in the years just before the beginning of the Dirty War, as war-torn and desperate for stability. There are times where I'm reminded of fast-paced silent-era City Symphonies, portraits of a time and place. Other times it is strictly war propaganda, intended to inspire and inflame. Regardless, it's the type of film you take in as a historical document with its own manipulative intent, not as entertainment.

My List:

Surname Viet Given Name Nam (1989) - Don't wear it out. :frogc00l: (Added 2/5/2016)

Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake (1966) - Mary Ellen Bute's underground, feature length adaptation of Joyce's inscrutable novel. I've never even tried to read it, but I'll give the movie a shot. (Added 4/1/2016)

Little Lord Fauntleroy (1921) - Classic Mary Pickford, aka my bae. <3 <3 <3 (Added 4/9/2016)

Last Summer (1969) - The warm weather is here and something about sexual awakenings. Let's hit the beach and gently caress. (Added 5/12/2016)

Nerves (1919) - German expressionist film that looks cool as heck. (Added 5/16/2016)

The Blood of Jesus (1941) - Spencer Williams' iconic race film. Spike Lee paid homage to it with Da Sweet Blood of Jesus. I've never seen any of these old race films, outside of some documentaries featuring clips. It seems like a fascinating genre worth diving into. (Added 5/25/2016)

Au hasard Balthazar (1966) - The last movie I watched about a donkey was Shrek. (Added 5/30/2016)

The Thin Man (1934) - Solving crime through the power of alcoholism! (Added 6/7/2016)

All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (2011) - I've never seen any Adam Curtis but I feel like I'd like him. I've been increasingly interested in the role technology is playing in our societal development. (Added 6/8/2016)

Seconds (1966) - I was talking about movies with a British dude who lives in Colombia who I shared a room with in a hostel over the weekend and he said I should check this out. (Added 6/23/2016)

Watched: Fort Apache; Damnation; Ran; Ordet; Purple Rain; Häxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages; Napoléon; Yi Yi; Faces; The Blood of a Poet; The War Room; Sanjuro; The Testament of Dr. Mabuse; Your Vice is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key; Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace; Flooding with Love for the Kid; Soylent Green; The Most Dangerous Game; Street Trash; The Avenging Conscience; The Spook Who Sat By the Door; Bringing Up Baby; The Life of Juanita Castro; The Hour of the Furnaces (TOTAL: 24)

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

TrixRabbi posted:

Au hasard Balthazar (1966) - The last movie I watched about a donkey was Shrek. (Added 5/30/2016)

Balthazar, At Random



Cocktail - This is one of the more perplexing Golden Raspberry winners. There isn't really anything extraordinary about it but it's far from the worst of 1988. While a little goofy and hammy at times the two leads have a memorable chemistry especially when they're trading barbs.

It's basically about a savvy philosophizing bartender (Bryan Brown) who takes a young guy (Tom Cruise) under his wing and teaches him the rules/laws of life and bartending. They have a few conflicts over women and bar ideas.

A lot of love conflicts and melodramatic twists (having Brown's character commit suicide was a major blunder) ultimately give it a soap opera feel (although the acting and production are way better than your typical soap opera TV series).

The story does go off the rails at a few points and after a lot of repetitive barroom tricks it feels like one giant long ad for getting soused.


Also watched:

The Adventures of Ford Fairlane - The adventures of a rock star detective. When I was very young I remember people citing Andrew Dice Clay as the most annoying person/comedian on the planet and they don't seem too far off with that assessment. Just in case he isn't they also invited Gilbert Gottfried along for the ride.

I won't get into the story too much but it's basically a silly murder mystery film that pokes fun at the music industry. Some dreary satire and a couple of laughs aren't enough to carry this one. I guess I liked Lauren Holly.



Procrastination (218 completed):

#204 Manila in the Claws of Light - Heard this was good. 12/8/15

#208 Queen - IMDb CCL. 1/14/16

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#217 Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake - Amazed that this exists. 4/21/16

#221 The Message - The story of Islam is now on the IMDb 250. 5/31/16

#224 Gates of Heaven - Something about dead animals. 6/15/16

#225 What Have I Done to Deserve This? - On some film lists. 6/15/16

new #226 Point Blank - Not to be confused with Point Break. 6/23/16

new #227 Blood Simple - I've heard only good things. 6/23/16

James Bond versus Godzilla:

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (30/39 completed):

1992 Shining Through - Something about WWII. 11/30/15

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Zogo posted:

new #227 Blood Simple - I've heard only good things. 6/23/16

Watch that one, it's completely awesome neo-noir intense good times. For the record I love Ford Fairlane too.


Here's my list, all movies that have sat on the to-watch list for years at least:

Adventures in Babysitting - I've heard this mentioned a lot for some reason, it's probably great.

Excalibur - Just have never gotten around to seeing it, I hear it's kind of just people yelling, but I may dig it.

Rounders - Heard good things, big Norton fan, also has Matt Damon.

Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home - I think I've seen some of it on TV in my youth. I love Wrath of Khan naturally.

Titan A.E. - Maybe what's shameful is the quantity of Matt Damon on this list.

Midnight Run - Been meaning to watch that for at least ten years, DeNiro must be on here somewhere.

Phantom Lady - It's a noir film, I like a lot of those. This just doesn't rise to the top of the to watch list it seems.

Dressed to Kill - 80s DePalma, that could be good.

Cat People - Has a helluva theme song by David Bowie as we know.

Moulin Rouge - It gets brought up and recommended to me from time to time.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jun 24, 2016

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Heavy Metal posted:

Midnight Run - Been meaning to watch that for at least ten years, DeNiro must be on here somewhere.

Enjoy this above average (in my opinion) buddy crime-comedy - cheers!


Leaving Las Vegas
An absolutely mesmerizing performance from Nic Cage, taking his zany persona & throwing it into a dramatic & depressing setting. It reminded me of Adam Sandler in Paul Thomas Anderson's Punch Drunk Love, only much darker in most aspects. His constant look of weariness, despair, and lack of hope unfortunately felt very realistic and glimpses of people I've met in my own life. Now I could've done without the 90s-opening credits & tonally uneven soundtrack playing throughout, but perhaps that was by design. All in all, it was a showcase for Nic Cage and it's unforgettable - certainly Oscar-caliber and worthy of his victory.

Being There
Peter Sellers & Shirley MacLaine - how can you go wrong? These two are fantastic here, with Sellers playing a reclused gardener Chauncy, and MacLaine as the wealthy Eve who takes Chauncy back to her mansion after running over his foot with her car. Melvyn Douglas as the dying old husband Ben, and Jack Warden (who I know as 'Pops' from the Norm McDonald vehicle Dirty Work) as the President of the United States. Sellers is absolutely perfect in providing such dry comedy and getting the most of so little, and had us all laughing our heads off with his subtlety. I could see someone like a Steve Carrell pulling off this role today if they were to remake it - but this may only work in that 70s landscape, feeling very similar to another Ashby 70s classic, Harold and Maude. The story was also reminiscient of things like The Truman Show and even Blast From The Past, with someone seeing the world for the first time, knowing very little yet having a profound effect on those they meet.




LIST
American Hustle **OLDEST** (2015.10.19) - I'll replace Fincher's 'Dragon Tattoo with another lengthy modern film I'll never watch... unless I'm forced to here.

Dark Victory (2016.05.29) - one of those films you don't hear discussed much, but a revisit of All About Eve makes me want more Bette Davis!

Drugstore Cowboy **NEW** (2016.06.23) - I'll replace one addiction movie with another, though I wonder if Matt Dillon can compare to Nic Cage.

Ed Wood **NEW** (2016.06.23) - a film that feels like I should've watched it long ago, with the cast & subject matter. Truly shameful.

Farewell My Concubine (2016.04.13) - replacing with another long, foreign film that I won't watch unless told to here.

Gilda (2015.11.27) - I'll replace an early Rita Hayworth film with her most iconic.

Marketa Lazarova (2016.05.05) - best place to put a lengthy acclaimed film... I'll keep putting it off otherwise! I sound like a broken record.

Mister Roberts (2015.10.24) - James Cagney, Henry Fonda, William Powell, and Jack Lemmon (in hs first Oscar-wining performance) ... mannn.

Nobody Knows (2016.04.23) - a 2+hr Kore-eda film that would be my 3rd film of his. Long overdue.

Rope (2016.04.13) - classic Hitchcock .... how have I not watched this yet?



De-shamed Pt2: True Romance (4/5), The Right Stuff (3/5), Syndromes And A Century (4/5), Still Life (3/5), My Cousin Vinny (2.5/5), Doctor Zhivago (3.5/5), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (4.5/5), Peeping Tom (4/5), Shadow of a Doubt (4.5/5), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (4.5/5), Only Angels Have Wings (4/5), Umberto D (4/5), Anatomy of a Murder (4.5/5), Only God Forgives (1.5/5), Missing (3.5/5), Howl's Moving Castle (4.5/5), Rio Bravo (4/5), Cloud Atlas (3.5/5), Children of Paradise (4/5), That Obscure Object of Desire (5/5), The Fountain (3/5), Malcolm X (4/5), Warrior (4/5), American Movie (4/5), Being There (4/5), Leaving Las Vegas (4.5/5), [Total:126]

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Friendo, watch Rope. I was just assigned Hitchcock so I'll return the favor.

I watched Rebecca. Its one of the best cast of characters I've seen in a Hitchcock film, every character was sympathetic in some way and I didn't know who to root for at times. Somehow I hadn't been spoiled on the main twist here, so that was certainly a gut punch, I didn't see it coming. But then I enjoyed how the movie didn't just wrap up when the truth was revealed, it continues on and we see the investigation and by the end none of the characters feel the same as when it started. A great looking film too, the sets were fantastic.

Remaining List with a new entry:

The Hills Have Eyes: I've seen the remake but never the original. I'm not a huge Craven fan but I am big into horror and this movie seems essential.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Scenes From a Marriage: Since I've given someone Cries and Whispers as an assignment, this seems appropriate. Its Bergman's follow-up to Cries and Whispers, and I don't expect it will be much easier to watch. Probably a little less cancer and a little more divorce

How Green Was My Valley: Another case where I love the director but its hard to get away from the Westerns. Ford won an Oscar for this one so I need to watch it at some point. I watched Grapes of Wrath this weekend and it was fantastic.

*NEW*Foreign Correspondent: This is part of a whole bunch of Hitchcock that I haven't seen from 1930 to about 1945.

The Right Stuff: Its length is probably the only reason I haven't seen this yet, but its currently on Netflix, so I should probably check it out.

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Basebf555 posted:

The Right Stuff: Its length is probably the only reason I haven't seen this yet, but its currently on Netflix, so I should probably check it out.

It's the only one I've watched from your list - I watched it thanks to this thread too. Enjoy!


Rope
I've heard many times how great the long takes are, most recently seen in the Best Picture winner Birdman. This is even more fascinating for me, taking place in 1948 without any computer tricks at Hitch's disposal. Stewart is great as always as the former school master Rupert Cadell, who arrives as an invited guest to a dinner party held by Brandon (John Dall) and Phillip (Farley Granger) - shortly after a murder took place! There's too many great shots to count, and the influence of the original stage play is found in all the wonderful dialogue and showy performances. Every guest at this party is a fully-formed character which is always nice to see. And at a quick 80 minutes, it's a film everyone should see with no excuses.




LIST
American Hustle **OLDEST** (2015.10.19) - I'll replace Fincher's 'Dragon Tattoo with another lengthy modern film I'll never watch... unless I'm forced to here.

Dark Victory (2016.05.29) - one of those films you don't hear discussed much, but a revisit of All About Eve makes me want more Bette Davis!

Drugstore Cowboy (2016.06.23) - I'll replace one addiction movie with another, though I wonder if Matt Dillon can compare to Nic Cage.

Ed Wood (2016.06.23) - a film that feels like I should've watched it long ago, with the cast & subject matter. Truly shameful.

Farewell My Concubine (2016.04.13) - replacing with another long, foreign film that I won't watch unless told to here.

Gilda (2015.11.27) - I'll replace an early Rita Hayworth film with her most iconic.

The Man Who Knew Too Much [1956] **NEW** (2016.06.26) - I'll replace one Hitchcock film [Rope] with another.

Marketa Lazarova (2016.05.05) - best place to put a lengthy acclaimed film... I'll keep putting it off otherwise! I sound like a broken record.

Mister Roberts (2015.10.24) - James Cagney, Henry Fonda, William Powell, and Jack Lemmon (in hs first Oscar-wining performance) ... mannn.

Nobody Knows (2016.04.23) - a 2+hr Kore-eda film that would be my 3rd film of his. Long overdue.



De-shamed Pt2: True Romance (4/5), The Right Stuff (3/5), Syndromes And A Century (4/5), Still Life (3/5), My Cousin Vinny (2.5/5), Doctor Zhivago (3.5/5), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (4.5/5), Peeping Tom (4/5), Shadow of a Doubt (4.5/5), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (4.5/5), Only Angels Have Wings (4/5), Umberto D (4/5), Anatomy of a Murder (4.5/5), Only God Forgives (1.5/5), Missing (3.5/5), Howl's Moving Castle (4.5/5), Rio Bravo (4/5), Cloud Atlas (3.5/5), Children of Paradise (4/5), That Obscure Object of Desire (5/5), The Fountain (3/5), Malcolm X (4/5), Warrior (4/5), American Movie (4/5), Being There (4/5), Leaving Las Vegas (4.5/5), Rope (4/5), [Total:127]

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

friendo55 posted:

Ed Wood (2016.06.23) - a film that feels like I should've watched it long ago, with the cast & subject matter. Truly shameful.

Enjoy maybe the last great Burton/Depp teamup(Sleepy Hollow is debatable)

Last night I watched The Right Stuff, and honestly, it was kind of a slog. There no reason this movie needed to be 3+ hours long. The performances are solid all-around, and really everything is competently done. The costumes especially are great, and not even just the space suits but the regular 50's outfits too. The wives were almost more compelling and interesting than the pilots themselves, especially Veronica Cartwright as Betty Grissom and Pamela Reed as Trudy Cooper.

For some reason I was under the impression that the movie was going to take things right up to the moon landing, so I kept bracing myself for the accident that would kill Grissom, but it never came. The movie got repetitive as each guy gets sent up and has his own slightly different experience up there, but by hour number 3 I was looking at the clock waiting for it to end.

Remaining List with a new entry:

The Hills Have Eyes: I've seen the remake but never the original. I'm not a huge Craven fan but I am big into horror and this movie seems essential.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Scenes From a Marriage: Since I've given someone Cries and Whispers as an assignment, this seems appropriate. Its Bergman's follow-up to Cries and Whispers, and I don't expect it will be much easier to watch. Probably a little less cancer and a little more divorce

How Green Was My Valley: Another case where I love the director but its hard to get away from the Westerns. Ford won an Oscar for this one so I need to watch it at some point. I watched Grapes of Wrath this weekend and it was fantastic.

Foreign Correspondent: This is part of a whole bunch of Hitchcock that I haven't seen from 1930 to about 1945.

*NEW*Sansho the Bailiff: Mizoguchi is one of the two or three greatest Japanese directors of all-time, but I've only seen Ugetsu. I've heard several famous American directors speak very highly about Sansho the Bailiff in particular.

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Basebf555 posted:

Last night I watched The Right Stuff, and honestly, it was kind of a slog. There no reason this movie needed to be 3+ hours long.


The movie got repetitive as each guy gets sent up and has his own slightly different experience up there, but by hour number 3 I was looking at the clock waiting for it to end.

I'm right in lockstep with you, here. Based on reviews, both critic and otherwise, I figured I was in the minority and whatever mood I was in that day wasn't ready for a 3+hr movie. Guess I'm not alone - only now I feel kinda bad recommending it!

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

friendo55 posted:

I'm right in lockstep with you, here. Based on reviews, both critic and otherwise, I figured I was in the minority and whatever mood I was in that day wasn't ready for a 3+hr movie. Guess I'm not alone - only now I feel kinda bad recommending it!

Nah, I needed to see it. It was becoming an eyesore on my Netflix queue.

I think being familiar with a lot of the history maybe hurt it because I knew nothing serious ever went wrong with those early missions. I knew Grissom had died with two other astronauts during a practice mission, so there was no way it could happen while they were still doing the one-man flights. That knowledge took a lot of the tension out of those scenes, but I imagine that's true for everyone who watches the movie and a lot of people seemed to love it at the time. Its kind of a strange case, though, because to read reviews and hear people talk about it you'd think it was a box-office hit, but it wasn't at all. It didn't even break even.

Mr. Kurtz
Feb 22, 2007

Here comes the hurdy gurdy man.

IM_DA_DECIDER posted:

I'm still shamefully procrastinating on Stagecoach.

Stagecoach is really good, if a bit dated. I still like the Searchers best for John Wayne flicks.

I've been procrastinating on Gone with the Wind for like 10 years now. It's really just a matter of finding three or whatever hours to watch it.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Basebf555 posted:

The Hills Have Eyes: I've seen the remake but never the original. I'm not a huge Craven fan but I am big into horror and this movie seems essential.

This one doesn't get mentioned much around here anymore. Maybe it's becoming another one of those forgotten films.




Blood Simple - The story starts off pretty ordinarily with a love triangle and infidelity. The anger of Dan Hedaya's character contrasts well with the laughter of the character played by M. Emmet Walsh.

One funny aspect was how every character was in over their head and came across like an amateur who didn't know what they were doing:

-The investigator/assassin who wears an obnoxious yellow suit, drives a conspicuous car and doesn't finish the job.

-The jealous husband who thinks of burning bodies in the incinerator right by his bar.

-The boyfriend who buries his boss in a field where anyone could find it.


The strongest point of the film involved the many layers of confusion that occur between the main characters. I've seen very few films able to carry out such a long chain of events like this. All the characters are confused as to what's really going on and it's great.

An ability to switch genres a little is also demonstrated. If I had one complaint it'd be that the ending was a little abrupt and left some loose ends. Obviously this wasn't a big budget production.


Procrastination (219 completed):

#204 Manila in the Claws of Light - Heard this was good. 12/8/15

#208 Queen - IMDb CCL. 1/14/16

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#217 Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake - Amazed that this exists. 4/21/16

#221 The Message - The story of Islam is now on the IMDb 250. 5/31/16

#224 Gates of Heaven - Something about dead animals. 6/15/16

#225 What Have I Done to Deserve This? - On some film lists. 6/15/16

#226 Point Blank - Not to be confused with Point Break. 6/23/16

new #228 Marketa Lazarova - I keep hearing this name. 6/29/16

James Bond versus Godzilla:

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (30/39 completed):

1992 Shining Through - Something about WWII. 11/30/15

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Zogo posted:

#226 Point Blank - Not to be confused with Point Break. 6/23/16

Ed Wood
It was strange seeing Johnny Depp so young, energetic, and upbeat after mainly seeing him in slow, methodical gangster pictures as of late - I'm thinking of the very average Public Enemies as well as Black Mass. This was a ton of fun, and exceedingly great by it's gorgeous black & white cinematography. He was perfectly cast as the young & naïve Edward D Wood Jr, attempting to make his own films by any means necessary. Martin Landau is also notable as a past-his-prime Bela Lugosi. "KARLOFF?! Sidekick?! F*CK YOU!!" And anytime there's an Orson Welles presence in a film, it raises the film a notch up. I mean, Vincent D'Onofrio is no Christian McKay (from Linklater's Me & Orson Welles), but perhaps that's unfair to compare. Anyway, this was tons of fun. Highly recommend it.



LIST
American Hustle **OLDEST** (2015.10.19) - I'll replace Fincher's 'Dragon Tattoo with another lengthy modern film I'll never watch... unless I'm forced to here.

Charley Varrick **NEW** (2016.06.28) - decided to have a Walter Matthau selection, and this is one I've been meaning to see.

Dark Victory (2016.05.29) - one of those films you don't hear discussed much, but a revisit of All About Eve makes me want more Bette Davis!

Drugstore Cowboy (2016.06.23) - I'll replace one addiction movie with another, though I wonder if Matt Dillon can compare to Nic Cage.

Farewell My Concubine (2016.04.13) - replacing with another long, foreign film that I won't watch unless told to here.

Gilda (2015.11.27) - I'll replace an early Rita Hayworth film with her most iconic.

The Man Who Knew Too Much [1956] (2016.06.26) - I'll replace one Hitchcock film [Rope] with another.

Marketa Lazarova (2016.05.05) - best place to put a lengthy acclaimed film... I'll keep putting it off otherwise! I sound like a broken record.

Mister Roberts (2015.10.24) - James Cagney, Henry Fonda, William Powell, and Jack Lemmon (in hs first Oscar-wining performance) ... mannn.

Nobody Knows (2016.04.23) - a 2+hr Kore-eda film that would be my 3rd film of his. Long overdue.



De-shamed Pt2: True Romance (4/5), The Right Stuff (3/5), Syndromes And A Century (4/5), Still Life (3/5), My Cousin Vinny (2.5/5), Doctor Zhivago (3.5/5), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (4.5/5), Peeping Tom (4/5), Shadow of a Doubt (4.5/5), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (4.5/5), Only Angels Have Wings (4/5), Umberto D (4/5), Anatomy of a Murder (4.5/5), Only God Forgives (1.5/5), Missing (3.5/5), Howl's Moving Castle (4.5/5), Rio Bravo (4/5), Cloud Atlas (3.5/5), Children of Paradise (4/5), That Obscure Object of Desire (5/5), The Fountain (3/5), Malcolm X (4/5), Warrior (4/5), American Movie (4/5), Being There (4/5), Leaving Las Vegas (4.5/5), Rope (4/5), Ed Wood (4.5/5), [Total:128]

friendo55 fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jun 29, 2016

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender
Go see American Hustle, both because it's your oldest and also cause it's the only movie I know of.

Stagecoach was a fun action-comedy. The jokes felt surprisingly un-dated, the characters were well-balanced and sympathetic, a good time overall. Apparently that was a rather novel idea at the time, so hats off to John Ford. Admittedly the only other pre-Leone western I've seen is The Searchers, which I prefer. It's probably not the best comparison since both movies have such wildly differing tones.

NEW Sci-Fi Slot: Planet of the Vampires. Was it Earth all along, or LV426? (replaced Elysium, I'm gonna see it eventually anyways) Previously: Ex Machina
Contemporary Artsy Slot: Only Lovers Left Alive. I don't think being immortal could ever get boring, but media tends to disagree. Maybe this one presents a convincing argument? Previously: The Tree of Life, Solaris (2002)
Action Slot: The Hurt Locker. I started watching this a while ago and lost interest, but I kind of want to find out what a hurt locker is. Previously: 300 War Movie Slot:
War Slot: Platoon. I think I saw this once in a Turkish hotel, in Turkish, but I'm not sure. Probably should watch in English. Previously: The Thin Red Line
Classic Slot: The Graduate. I like the song. Previously: Citizen Kane, Seventh Seal, Psycho, Casablanca
Older Artsy Slot: Fitzcarralo. Is this even artsy? No clue. Thinking this genre slot idea might have been bad. Previously: Solaris, The Holy Mountain
Horror Slot: Carnival of Souls: I could have put Saw here...Previously: Suspiria
NEW Western Slot: Paint your Wagon. This is the one were they sing! Previously: Stagecoach

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

IM_DA_DECIDER posted:

Stagecoach was a fun action-comedy. The jokes felt surprisingly un-dated, the characters were well-balanced and sympathetic, a good time overall. Apparently that was a rather novel idea at the time, so hats off to John Ford. Admittedly the only other pre-Leone western I've seen is The Searchers, which I prefer. It's probably not the best comparison since both movies have such wildly differing tones.
I'm glad you enjoyed Stagecoach and were able to see how ahead of its time it really was. I agree with you that The Searchers is better though, but that's no slight to Stagecoach. For me The Searchers is the ultimate Western, the best ever made.

IM_DA_DECIDER posted:

NEW Sci-Fi Slot: Planet of the Vampires. Was it Earth all along, or LV426? (replaced Elysium, I'm gonna see it eventually anyways) Previously: Ex Machina

Enjoy this schlockfest, and I mean that with all sincerity. If you go into it with the right mindset, Planet of the Vampires is a hell of a lot of fun. Bava is a master of lighting, and this is I believe the only time he ever used those talents in the sci-fi genre. This movie would be a fantastic midnight drive-in experience.

As for myself, I had the day off so I watched The Hills Have Eyes. As I said before, I'm not a big fan of Craven generally, but that could be changing. I've always liked The People Under the Stairs, and now The Hills Have Eyes may be my new favorite Craven film. I had seen the remake, and I assumed the brutality was probably a little less extreme in the original, but its really not. You could also make an argument that the true protagonist of the movie is the dog, which I loved. They'd have been completely hosed without that dog. Now that I think about it, The Hills Have Eyes is a dog revenge story. It'd make a good double feature with White God.

Remaining list with a new entry:

*NEW*The Insider: The subject matter of this movie never interested me, but by all accounts it has two powerhouse performances and its Michael Mann so I'm sure its good.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Scenes From a Marriage: Since I've given someone Cries and Whispers as an assignment, this seems appropriate. Its Bergman's follow-up to Cries and Whispers, and I don't expect it will be much easier to watch. Probably a little less cancer and a little more divorce

How Green Was My Valley: Another case where I love the director but its hard to get away from the Westerns. Ford won an Oscar for this one so I need to watch it at some point. I watched Grapes of Wrath this weekend and it was fantastic.

Foreign Correspondent: This is part of a whole bunch of Hitchcock that I haven't seen from 1930 to about 1945.

Sansho the Bailiff: Mizoguchi is one of the two or three greatest Japanese directors of all-time, but I've only seen Ugetsu. I've heard several famous American directors speak very highly about Sansho the Bailiff in particular.

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 29, 2016

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Basebf555 posted:

How Green Was My Valley: Another case where I love the director but its hard to get away from the Westerns. Ford won an Oscar for this one so I need to watch it at some point. I watched Grapes of Wrath this weekend and it was fantastic.


Next one for you.


Point Blank - Walker (Lee Marvin) spends most of the film climbing the revenge ladder killing higher and higher level bosses to recoup the $93,000 that he stole and was later stolen from him. Most of his enemies are backstabbers who are more than willing to throw their underlings under the bus.

All these bad guys live in lavish penthouses. Walker has no problem skulking into them to exact his revenge. What stuck out were the repeated intercuts going to flashbacks from earlier points of the film. The constant reshowing is memorable and adds some contemplation where one normally wouldn't find it.

I was reminded of the films: Charade, Bullitt, The Long Goodbye and The Killing of a Chinese Bookie.



Procrastination (220 completed):

#204 Manila in the Claws of Light - Heard this was good. 12/8/15

#208 Queen - IMDb CCL. 1/14/16

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#217 Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake - Amazed that this exists. 4/21/16

#221 The Message - The story of Islam is now on the IMDb 250. 5/31/16

#224 Gates of Heaven - Something about dead animals. 6/15/16

#225 What Have I Done to Deserve This? - On some film lists. 6/15/16

#228 Marketa Lazarova - I keep hearing this name. 6/29/16

James Bond versus Godzilla:

new Son of Godzilla - Many years ago I saw the dubbed 4:3 English version on VHS and remember it being funny. The original Japanese version in 2:35:1 will have new stuff. 7/4/16

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (30/39 completed):

1992 Shining Through - Something about WWII. 11/30/15

GMEEOORH
Mar 12, 2012

Zogo posted:

#217 Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake
Don't know how they did this, but im sure it'll be funferal.


I watched A Separation and I really loved it. Probably my favourite of the films I've watched for this thread.



Man with a Movie Camera - Often shows up on lists of great films and everything about how it was made and how that's incorporated into the film sounds really interesting.

Thief - Other Mann movies I've seen were good, need to watch this one.

Nightcrawler - Didn't manage to see this in the cinema last year, but everything about it seems extremely my poo poo.

Chungking Express - I've only seen ''in the mood for love'' from Wong and I should change that.

Strange Days - Picked this up at a thrift store a year or so back and I've been close to watching it about a dozen times.

Spider - Went to a big Cronenberg exhibition last year and I've slowly been going through all his films. This one is next.

Elephant - I wonder what the chances are that this will be tragically relevant due to current events when it gets picked.

Tangerine - There was a lot of buzz about this last year and I've been meaning to watch it. Pretty pissed that I missed the first and only theatrical showing of this in Amsterdam last week.

sjw - Only ever saw a couple of minutes. Love Verhoeven in schlocky sci-fi mode.

The Passion of Joan of Arc - Looks intense.

new:

Copie Conforme - Been meaning to watch this for a while. R.I.P. Abbas Kiarostami.

Watched: The Night of the Hunter, F for Fake, Throne of Blood, American Psycho, A Separation

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

GMEEOORH posted:

sjw - Only ever saw a couple of minutes. Love Verhoeven in schlocky sci-fi mode.

Truly shameful. Watch it, then watch Robocop 2.

I watched How Green Was My Valley, one of the films for which John Ford won the Best Director Oscar. I thought it was alright, but I was hoping for more. I thought it was nowhere near as good as The Grapes of Wrath, which I also watched recently. It bears some resemblance to a later Ford film, The Quiet Man, which I also enjoyed a lot more than this one. There just weren't enough engaging characters in it, which is usually a hallmark of Ford's work. I assume many people disagree with me about this, because How Green Was My Valley has always been one of Ford's most celebrated films. All in all its probably my least favorite Ford so far.

Current List with two new entries:

The Insider: The subject matter of this movie never interested me, but by all accounts it has two powerhouse performances and its Michael Mann so I'm sure its good.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Scenes From a Marriage: Since I've given someone Cries and Whispers as an assignment, this seems appropriate. Its Bergman's follow-up to Cries and Whispers, and I don't expect it will be much easier to watch. Probably a little less cancer and a little more divorce

*NEW*Cronos - I love Del Toro and I love horror but for some reason I've never seen this.

*NEW*Sudden Impact - Dirty Harry sequel directed by Eastwood? Sure why not.

Foreign Correspondent: This is part of a whole bunch of Hitchcock that I haven't seen from 1930 to about 1945.

Sansho the Bailiff: Mizoguchi is one of the two or three greatest Japanese directors of all-time, but I've only seen Ugetsu. I've heard several famous American directors speak very highly about Sansho the Bailiff in particular.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Basebf, I just watched Foreign Correspondent the other day and it's very good, check it out. Some top notch Hitchcock sequences in it.

Before Au hasard Balthazar, the only Bresson I had seen was Pickpocket, and that was years ago. Like Pickpocket however, I was left feeling somewhat underwhelmed, appreciative of its visual poetry and stark minimalism, but ultimately unmoved. I really love the idea of Balthazar, the donkey as a metaphor for Christianity and the suffering we endure in life. The final images are particularly arresting. But there's also something missing, a draw that connected me emotionally. I'm filing this one away in the "watch again someday" section to come back to. Like Pickpocket, maybe it will mature more in my mind and I'll be more interested in it on a second watch.

My List:

Surname Viet Given Name Nam (1989) - Don't wear it out. :frogc00l: (Added 2/5/2016)

Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake (1966) - Mary Ellen Bute's underground, feature length adaptation of Joyce's inscrutable novel. I've never even tried to read it, but I'll give the movie a shot. (Added 4/1/2016)

Little Lord Fauntleroy (1921) - Classic Mary Pickford, aka my bae. <3 <3 <3 (Added 4/9/2016)

Last Summer (1969) - The warm weather is here and something about sexual awakenings. Let's hit the beach and gently caress. (Added 5/12/2016)

Nerves (1919) - German expressionist film that looks cool as heck. (Added 5/16/2016)

The Blood of Jesus (1941) - Spencer Williams' iconic race film. Spike Lee paid homage to it with Da Sweet Blood of Jesus. I've never seen any of these old race films, outside of some documentaries featuring clips. It seems like a fascinating genre worth diving into. (Added 5/25/2016)

The Thin Man (1934) - Solving crime through the power of alcoholism! (Added 6/7/2016)

All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace (2011) - I've never seen any Adam Curtis but I feel like I'd like him. I've been increasingly interested in the role technology is playing in our societal development. (Added 6/8/2016)

Seconds (1966) - I was talking about movies with a British dude who lives in Colombia who I shared a room with in a hostel over the weekend and he said I should check this out. (Added 6/23/2016)

My Dinner with Andre (1981) - Tell me more. (Added 7/8/2016)

Watched: Fort Apache; Damnation; Ran; Ordet; Purple Rain; Häxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages; Napoléon; Yi Yi; Faces; The Blood of a Poet; The War Room; Sanjuro; The Testament of Dr. Mabuse; Your Vice is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key; Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace; Flooding with Love for the Kid; Soylent Green; The Most Dangerous Game; Street Trash; The Avenging Conscience; The Spook Who Sat By the Door; Bringing Up Baby; The Life of Juanita Castro; The Hour of the Furnaces; Au hasard Balthazar (TOTAL: 25)

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
I need someone to explain Au hasard Balthazar to me because it's one of the only films I've encountered where I had absolutely no idea what anyone saw in it.

Chewy Bitems
Dec 25, 2012

PIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!
I like Bresson but Au hasard Balthazar is the only film where I've seen it and sat down to watch it years later having completely forgotten I'd seen it until part way through the film. I don't remember it being bad but I also, again, have largely forgotten it. Though I know I've seen it now. Twice. (A Man Escaped is Bresson's best film if you ask me, it doesn't seem to get the attention it deserves, so I bring it up whenever he's mentioned...)
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TrixRabbi, I haven't seen any of your list or have any inclination towards any of them, so go with Surname Viet Given Name Nam, since it's the longest on your list and also it seems quite an interesting subject too.

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And a while back it was TrixRabbi who gave me the highly hyped It Follows.

Which was excellent and defintely lived up to that hype. I didn't know much about this going in other than it's acclaim (highlighted by comments made by TrixRabbi and IM_DA_DECIDER when I added it to my list) and a brief glance at the review by OSW's Jay Hunter, so I was hopeful for a modern horror film that wasn't just a lazy torture porn or something about a lame spooky child.

This is a stylish horror film that has a sense of dread built into its very premises - something is following you - and explores that by focusing on a girl, surrounded by her friends, as she tries to figure out her situation and stay out of harms way. There are a number of drawbacks to the film that feel like misteps and it's that case of these minor faults that disrupt a film that is so close to being really special. What I found most distracting was the design of the film - while consistently brilliantly shot, with great use of light and in particular POV shots, along with a multitude of atmospherics scenes, there are some design choices which sadly distract - some overly stylised design leaning too heavily on 1980s influences: clothes, landline telephones, and cathode ray tube televisions but the film is clearly set in the modern day with a weird clam shell e-reader/cell phone that gets needlessly focused on and a moblie phone (though only one). When the film is doing a great job of sucking you in these incongruous elements break your focus and it's a shame. The dialogue isn't great but it other than some pointless out of context readings (which feel like they're trying to add some kind of subtext) and the characters are very thinly drawn but the film works.

On reflection I've just spent a while focusing on the negatives but this was an extremely enjoyable film to watch. A horror film that genuinely had me crawling around in my seat and talking out loud in giddly fear at what was occurring, you can't ask for that. And while I did jump like a fool at the couple of lazy jump scares, the film drew me in and then had me on the edge of my seat, great stuff.

Couple of minor things: The opening scene has a girl running around in high heels, which is always a distracting dumb thing whenever it pops up in a film, take them off! (the obvious thing of going to another country for a few days... is probably wisely not brought up) (the implied stuff with the boat scene seemed out of character and odd)


List of Shame:

1 - In America - It was talked about a lot on its release but not heard much about this since, word was it was good. [Irish Film Slot]

2 - Dancer in the Dark - I started watching this years back but the rented DVD was broke, apparently a tough watch so haven't rushed back.

3 - The Tale of Princess Kaguya - Again catching up with Studio Ghibli, this comes highly rated.

4 - Amy - A quite recent release but one I'm keen to catch. [Documentary Slot]

5 - The Wanderers - One of those films that gets mentioned often enough but don't know much about, something about a gang?

6 - Kotoko - Always interested in Shinya Tsukamoto's films, I've a few to catch up on, this seems interesting.

7 - Outrage - Takeshi Kitano back making Yakuza films. I can't wait. [Catching up with Kitano 3/5]

8 - Bad Day at Black Rock - One of those classics that I've just never sought out & know very little about, I should fix that

9 - A Colt Is My Passport - Starring everyone's favourite artifically hamster cheeked actor - Joe Shishido - Decever spoke highly of this earlier in the thread.

10- Fritz the Cat - new - I've a bit of an interest in animation and this is a blind spot that I've kinda avoided, not sure if it's meant to be that bad even...

Shame No More: [89] [top ten] Psycho | The Third Man | The Long Goodbye | Harakiri | The Silence of the Lambs | Pi | Jaws | Panic Room | Black Swan | Star Trek II | The Brothers Bloom | Hugo | Badlands | Shame | LA Confidential | The Right Stuff | The Evil Dead | Hanna | The Master | The Untouchables | Glengarry Glen Ross | The Seventh Seal | The Apartment | The Player | Ronin | The Grand Budapest Hotel | Glory to the Filmmaker! | Frank | Dreams | Paths of Glory | Assault on Precinct 13 | Haywire | Escape From New York | 13 Assassins | A Prophet | Stand By Me | Blackfish | Pumping Iron | The Thin Blue Line | It's A Wonderful Life | What Richard Did | The Bicycle Thieves | Youth of the Beast | Once Upon A Time In The West | The Raid: Redemption | The Babadook | Calvary | The Host | Samurai Rebellion | Poltergeist | Days of Heaven | The Room | Nightcrawler | Cars 2 | Enter the Dragon | Stalker | Casablanca | M | The Maltese Falcon | The Secret World of Arrietty | Bad Lieutenant | Blazing Saddles | Mad Max: Fury Road | From Up On Poppy Hill | In The Heat Of The Night | Noah | The Wind Rises | The Exorcist | An American Werewolf in London | The Fog | The Graduate | The Black Power Mixtape 1967-1975 | The Killing | La Dolce Vita | Scarface | Gone Girl | The Sting | Rope | Taken | Citizenfour | Annie Hall | The Great Yokai War | Achilles and the Tortoise | Starman | Mad Max 2 | Ex Machina | Silence | Moonrise Kingdom | It Follows

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...

Chewy Bitems posted:

I like Bresson but Au hasard Balthazar is the only film where I've seen it and sat down to watch it years later having completely forgotten I'd seen it until part way through the film. I don't remember it being bad but I also, again, have largely forgotten it. Though I know I've seen it now. Twice. (A Man Escaped is Bresson's best film if you ask me, it doesn't seem to get the attention it deserves, so I bring it up whenever he's mentioned...)
100% agreed on A Man Escaped, if you're unsure about seeking out more of Bresson's work, that's the film to start with.

As for Balthazar, it's been too many years since I watched it multiple times on my Criterion DVD (and once in a theater) to provide an adequate defense of it, but the one scene that will always stick with me is Balthazar walking through the circus, seemingly observing the animals, the editing engendering empathy to a degree that not even Kuleshov could've conceived.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Chewy Bitems posted:

7 - Outrage - Takeshi Kitano back making Yakuza films. I can't wait. [Catching up with Kitano 3/5]

Enjoy, this is just as good any of Kitano's earlier work in my opinion.

Over the weekend I watched Foreign Correspondent. It was definitely pure Hitchcock all the way, the story just kept twisting and turning in a way that directors don't seem to be able to pull off today. Its also absolutely beautiful to look at, probably in the top-3 of his films that I've seen in terms of visuals. The windmill set was just amazing, the lighting there was some of the best I've ever seen, right up there with The Third Man. This definitely gives me motivation to continue seeking out more Hitchcock from this period.


Remaining List, with one new entry:

The Insider: The subject matter of this movie never interested me, but by all accounts it has two powerhouse performances and its Michael Mann so I'm sure its good.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Scenes From a Marriage: Since I've given someone Cries and Whispers as an assignment, this seems appropriate. Its Bergman's follow-up to Cries and Whispers, and I don't expect it will be much easier to watch. Probably a little less cancer and a little more divorce

Cronos - I love Del Toro and I love horror but for some reason I've never seen this.

Sudden Impact - Dirty Harry sequel directed by Eastwood? Sure why not.

*NEW*Jamaica Inn - This is the Hitchcock slot for now, Jamaica Inn was made a year before my last pick, Foreign Correspondent.

Sansho the Bailiff: Mizoguchi is one of the two or three greatest Japanese directors of all-time, but I've only seen Ugetsu. I've heard several famous American directors speak very highly about Sansho the Bailiff in particular.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Basebf555 posted:

Scenes From a Marriage: Since I've given someone Cries and Whispers as an assignment, this seems appropriate. Its Bergman's follow-up to Cries and Whispers, and I don't expect it will be much easier to watch. Probably a little less cancer and a little more divorce

I recommend the longer TV version if you can find it.



Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake - One of the more alien films I've seen and truly a nonlinear, schizophrenic dream. It's like listening to drunken aliens speak in riddles, pig latin and other gibberish as they observe and go through the cycle of life.

At times I was reminded of parts in Schizopolis (1996). I'm surprised more haven't seen it.


Also watched:

Manila in the Claws of Light - I recently watched Swordfish which was a ridiculously Hollywoodized film and it contrasted well with this one as it's on the far end of earthy, honest filmmaking. It's a solid story with mysterious flashbacks, business corruption and love (Julio's infatuation with Ligaya).

A lot of people think slavery is long gone but you don't have to look very far to find people being tricked with the promise of a great job only to be moved to a foreign country and put into forced labor/prostitution. This film covers a lot of that.

The Chinese are basically regarded as high-class, rich villains. The two main nemeses are the brothel owner and his brothel recruiter who's frequently called "the Chinese pig woman." Normally one doesn't see such an honest portrayal of construction work, accidents, prostitution, slums etc.

Some of Julio's interactions reminded me of things that happened in Dr. Zhivago, Vertigo and Taxi Driver. A lot of tragedy with an explosive and harsh ending that's similar to (but predates) the iconic ending of Taxi Driver.



Procrastination (222 completed):

#208 Queen - IMDb CCL. 1/14/16

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#221 The Message - The story of Islam is now on the IMDb 250. 5/31/16

#224 Gates of Heaven - Something about dead animals. 6/15/16

#225 What Have I Done to Deserve This? - On some film lists. 6/15/16

#228 Marketa Lazarova - I keep hearing this name. 6/29/16

new #229 Greed - I was futilely waiting for some hero to find the full original version somewhere but I'll throw in the towel at this juncture. 7/12/16

James Bond versus Godzilla:

new Moonraker - Bond in space. The last of the 1970s. 7/12/16

Son of Godzilla - Many years ago I saw the dubbed 4:3 English version on VHS and remember it being funny. The original Japanese version in 2:35:1 will have new stuff. 7/4/16

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (30/39 completed):

1992 Shining Through - Something about WWII. 11/30/15

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut
Zogo, choosing for you is not easy. Gates of Heaven isn't the epic-flop western from 1980, right? Okay, go with that.

I’m not sure I understood Cries and Whispers. It was an intense experience, and probably not one I’d choose to have again. The whole thing is about a tight-knit family and their servants dealing with the death of a young family member. Almost everyone in the movie is a woman- there’s one man who’s married to one of the main characters, and one guy who looks like a young Michael Caine, and maybe a bishop, but they’re all minor. The plot isn’t really the point. It’s more of a mood piece and a view at the way a small family keeps secrets and deals with difficult situations. I was kind of glad that Agnes died halfway through, because her suffering was hard to watch. There was also something weird about how so many characters looked directly into the camera, and the bright red motif that colored not just the walls but also the scene transitions. It could represent a womb, as female sexuality is a major theme (see the really disturbing scene where one of the characters using a piece of glass to masturbate, cut herself, or both- it wasn’t clear). Near the end, the dead woman starts talking, somehow. I don’t think this is meant to be taken literally; I think it’s more that each character has to deal with her feelings about the dead woman. Like I said, I don’t think I fully understand this, and there are probably a lot of layers to it. I can easily imagine readings where everyone is in hell, or they all represent different types of sexuality, or some other creative view, but that’s too much for me. I just saw it as a venting of frustrations at the unfairness of life and an attempt to understand how God fits in with the suffering of innocent people. There’s no answer other than “thy will be done,” and the quiet contentment of Anna as she accepts the good and bad together.

Rating: 4/4

101. Spartacus- In the end, aren't we all Spartacus? Yeah, I know how this one ends, but that's basically it. Also, I think it's popular among labor organizers.

102. Enchanted- I love Disney movies, but I also know their problems. I think this must have come out during the period when I was too old to be in Disney's target audience and too young to admit I still liked these sorts of movies without being embarrassed.

103. Judgment at Nuremberg- I had never heard about this until Slacktivist mentioned it. Sounds interesting.

112. The Bourne Ultimatum- I like this series- ready to finish it off (I doubt "Legacy" is worth my time).

116. Boogie Nights- Uh, porn is bad. You shouldn't watch porn, m'kay?

120. The Straight Story- Doug Walker described this as "a movie that seems really slow and tedious until you get to the end, and then you realize everything that happened was for a reason." So that interested me. Also, it's by David Lynch, who ranges from excellent (Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks Season One) to pretty good (Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks Season Two). No, I've never seen Dune, why do you ask?

122. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang- Somewhere, someone made a list of best pre-Hays Code movies, and this was at the top. That's all I know about it. Oh, and I think there's a twist ending of some sort, but I've deliberately avoided reading anything about it.

124. The Rules of the Game- I opened the They Shoot Pictures list, and this is number five. I've never even heard of it.

127. Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer- One of Shakespeare's lesser known history plays.

128. Cool Hand Luke-: "What we've got here is... failure to communicate." There, that's everything I know about this movie. Well, I think Paul Newman's in it, too.

Okay, tell me what I'm watching!

Shame relieved: The Godfather: 3.5/4, The Godfather Part II: 4/4, Taxi Driver: 4/4, Casablanca: 4/4, Duck Soup: 2/4, Pulp Fiction: 4/4, Barton Fink: 3.5/4, Annie Hall:3/4, Rashomon: 4/4, Blade Runner: 3.5/4, Chinatown: 4/4, Nashville: 3.5/4, Goodfellas: 4/4, The Seven Samurai: 4/4, Superman: 2/4, The Exorcist: 3/4, A Face in the Crowd: 3.5/4, The Seventh Seal: 2.5/4, Treasure of the Sierra Madre: 3.5/4, Apocalypse Now: 4/4, 2001: A Space Odyssey: 2.5/4, The Deer Hunter: 3/4, Schindler's List: 4/4, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: 3/4, Young Frankenstein: 3.5/4, Yojimbo: 3.5/4, Brazil: 3.5/4, Hamlet: 4/4, The Aviator: 4/4, Rocky: 3.5/4, Gandhi: 3.5/4, City Lights: 4/4, Battleship Potemkin: 3.5/4, Predator: 3/4, Easy Rider: 1.5/4, Platoon: 3.5/4, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: 4/4, Get Carter: 3.5/4, Full Metal Jacket: 4/4, My Dinner with Andre: 4/4, Lethal Weapon: 3/4, 3 Women: 4/4, Ikiru: 4/4, The Maltese Falcon: 2.5/4, Midnight Cowboy: 3/4, Gattaca: 4/4, Gone with the Wind: 3/4, Jaws: 4/4, The Bicycle Thief: 3/4, Sophie's Choice: 2/4, On the Waterfront: 4/4, North by Northwest: 3.5/4, Stagecoach: 3.5/4, E.T.: 2/4, Nosferatu: 4/4, Lawrence of Arabia: 4/4, Dirty Harry: 1/4, Vertigo: 3.5/4, Rebecca: 4/4, The Pink Panther: 3/4, Children of Men: 4/4, Wings of Desire: 3/4, Metropolis: 3.5/4, Born on the Fourth of July: 4/4, The Bridge on the River Kwai: 3.5/4, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: 4/4, Being John Malkovich: 3/4, Adaptation: 4/4, Bonnie and Clyde: 4/4, Goldfinger: 3/4, A Streetcar Named Desire: 4/4, Dog Day Afternoon: 3.5/4, Leon: The Professional: 4/4, 8 1/2: 3/4, Mulholland Drive: 4/4, 12 Angry Men: 4/4, Safety Last: 3.5/4, Dogville: 4/4, The Rapture: 2/4, Blue Velvet: 3/4, Irreversible: 4/4, Airplane!: 3.5/4, Tokyo Story: 2.5/4, Big Trouble in Little China: 3.5/4, American Psycho: 3.5/4, Dr. Zhivago: 3/4, Leaving Las Vegas:4/4, The Bourne Identity: 4/4, Out of Africa: 3/4, The Usual Suspects: 3/4, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang: 4/4, Rain Man: 3.5/4, The Lost Weekend: 3.5/4, Ratatouille: 3/4, City of God: 4/4, Ed Wood: 4/4, Top Gun: 2.5/4, Trois Couleurs: Bleu: 3.5/4, The Hidden Fortess: 3/4, First Blood: 4/4, The Ten Commandments:3.5/4, Patton: 3.5/4, The Bourne Supremacy:3.5/4, King Lear (1983): 2.5/4, Repo Man: 2.5/4, King Kong: 3.5/4, Wall Street: 3/4, The Blues Brothers: 2/4, Trois Couleurs: Blanc: 2.5/4, Trois Couleurs: Rouge: 3.5/4, Animal House: 1.5/4, Ben-Hur: 3.5/4, Gojira: 4/4, Sunset Boulevard: 3.5/4, Falling Down: 4/4, The Night of the Hunter: 3.5/4, Ran: 4/4, The Battle of Algiers: 4/4, Z: 3/4, The Great Escape: 2.5/4, Cries and Whispers: 4/4

Jurgan fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Sep 18, 2016

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Jurgan posted:

102. Enchanted- I love Disney movies, but I also know their problems. I think this must have come out during the period when I was too old to be in Disney's target audience and too young to admit I still liked these sorts of movies without being embarrassed.

Just because I watched Amy Adams in a much different role, I'll choose this for you! Enjoy!


American Hustle
Silver Linings Playbook was fun if forgettable, and The Fighter I remember enjoying quite a bit - but this meandering film can be added alongside Three Kings as a David O Russell film that did nothing for me. It's a series of character interactions that went around and around in circles, ultimately adding up to nothing of substance. Cooper, Adams, Lawrence, Bale, Renner, and De Niro all give adequate and sometimes fun performances - and the soundtrack is without question the standout - but the story drags it down. The highlight for me was that I thought this was 3 hours - turns out it was 2hrs and 18 minutes. Jackpot!




LIST
Charley Varrick [1973] - (2016.06.28) - decided to have a Walter Matthau selection, and this is one I've been meaning to see.

Dark Victory [1939] - (2016.05.29) - one of those films you don't hear discussed much, but a revisit of All About Eve makes me want more Bette Davis!

Drugstore Cowboy [1989] - (2016.06.23) - I'll replace one addiction movie with another, though I wonder if Matt Dillon can compare to Nic Cage.

Farewell My Concubine [1993] - (2016.04.13) - replacing with another long, foreign film that I won't watch unless told to here.

Gilda [1946] - (2015.11.27) - I'll replace an early Rita Hayworth film with her most iconic.

The Man Who Knew Too Much [1956] - (2016.06.26) - I'll replace one Hitchcock film [Rope] with another.

Marketa Lazarova [1967] - (2016.05.05) - best place to put a lengthy acclaimed film... I'll keep putting it off otherwise! I sound like a broken record.

Mister Roberts [1955] - **OLDEST** (2015.10.24) - James Cagney, Henry Fonda, William Powell, and Jack Lemmon (in hs first Oscar-wining performance) ... mannn.

Nobody Knows [2004] - (2016.04.23) - a 2+hr Kore-eda film that would be my 3rd film of his. Long overdue.

Slacker [1991] - **NEW** (2016.07.17) - want to keep Linklater films a presence here until I'm fully caught up. This is a gorgeous Criterion blind-buy sitting unwatched.


De-shamed Pt2: True Romance (4/5), The Right Stuff (3/5), Syndromes And A Century (4/5), Still Life (3/5), My Cousin Vinny (2.5/5), Doctor Zhivago (3.5/5), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (4.5/5), Peeping Tom (4/5), Shadow of a Doubt (4.5/5), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (4.5/5), Only Angels Have Wings (4/5), Umberto D (4/5), Anatomy of a Murder (4.5/5), Only God Forgives (1.5/5), Missing (3.5/5), Howl's Moving Castle (4.5/5), Rio Bravo (4/5), Cloud Atlas (3.5/5), Children of Paradise (4/5), That Obscure Object of Desire (5/5), The Fountain (3/5), Malcolm X (4/5), Warrior (4/5), American Movie (4/5), Being There (4/5), Leaving Las Vegas (4.5/5), Rope (4/5), Ed Wood (4.5/5), American Hustle (2.5/5) [Total:129]

friendo55 fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jul 18, 2016

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
David O Russell is a bad person and his movies suck.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

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Jurgan posted:

Doug Walker described this as "a movie that seems really slow and tedious until you get to the end, and then you realize everything that happened was for a reason." So that interested me. Also, it's by David Lynch, who ranges from excellent (Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks Season One) to pretty good (Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks Season Two). No, I've never seen Dune, why do you ask?

For the record, you may love Lost Highway if you haven't seen that one. And don't forget Wild at Heart. I'm actually not a fan of The Straight Story, but I do love Lynch. And we can't blame Lynch for Twin Peaks season 2, since that's mostly not him, and the finale when he returned to the show rocks hard.

I've gotta get on watching my pick so I can tell people what to watch!

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Heavy Metal posted:

For the record, you may love Lost Highway if you haven't seen that one. And don't forget Wild at Heart. I'm actually not a fan of The Straight Story, but I do love Lynch. And we can't blame Lynch for Twin Peaks season 2, since that's mostly not him, and the finale when he returned to the show rocks hard.

I've gotta get on watching my pick so I can tell people what to watch!

I haven't seen any of the movies you just mentioned. I didn't know that about Twin Peaks, but it doesn't surprise me. Basically, it felt like once they resolved "who killed Laura Palmer?" they didn't know what to do and had to make up a less interesting plot and villain out of nowhere. The last episode or two were better, but then it got canceled, although I think it's coming back soon?

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Jurgan posted:

I haven't seen any of the movies you just mentioned. I didn't know that about Twin Peaks, but it doesn't surprise me. Basically, it felt like once they resolved "who killed Laura Palmer?" they didn't know what to do and had to make up a less interesting plot and villain out of nowhere. The last episode or two were better, but then it got canceled, although I think it's coming back soon?

Hell yeah, I can't wait. It's gonna be next year apparently. Lynch directs the entire thing, so that'll be sweet. Naomi Watts (Mulholland Drive) and Balthazar Getty (Lost Highway) are in it too. Laura Dern too. It's just missing Nic Cage...

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Magic Hate Ball posted:

David O Russell is a bad person and his movies suck.

Serious question - what makes him a bad person? But yes, for the most part his movies aren't great. At least with someone like Wes Anderson I can see where people can appreciate his work - with Russell I don't really get it at all.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I dunno about him being a bad person, but David O Russell seems like he wants to be P.T Anderson but he doesn't have half the talent. Russell can't create the kind of convincing worlds that make Anderson's films such a joy to watch. There's more to it than wigs.

Related to this thread, I tried to watch Scenes From a Marriage last night and had to stop halfway through because its just too intense. I can't take almost 3 straight hours of emotional suffering, I have to break it up into two nights.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

Basebf555 posted:

Related to this thread, I tried to watch Scenes From a Marriage last night and had to stop halfway through because its just too intense. I can't take almost 3 straight hours of emotional suffering, I have to break it up into two nights.

You need to watch the 5 hour version in one sitting to get the full Bergman experience, and to truly be rid of the Shame(tm).

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Electronico6 posted:

You need to watch the 5 hour version in one sitting to get the full Bergman experience, and to truly be rid of the Shame(tm).

I wanted to watch the 5 hour version, which was mentioned when it was assigned to me here, but I don't think I can get that streaming with the services I have. I'm pretty sure Hulu only has the 3 hour version.

I really don't know how Bergman and his various actors(Ullmann especially) shot this stuff. Its just too real and too intense, it couldn't have been fun to show up to work each day. Liv Ullmann may be the best actress in film history.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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friendo55 posted:

The Man Who Knew Too Much [1956] - (2016.06.26) - I'll replace one Hitchcock film [Rope] with another.

I'm on a Hitchcock kick as well, although I barely remember The Man Who Knew Too Much. If you really like it maybe It'll inspire me to rewatch it.

I suffered through Scenes from a Marriage. It may be a while before I can go back to Bergman because this was not a fun watch. Its definitely a beautiful piece of art, and I'm glad it exists. That said, I don't know how I can recommend to someone that they go through the experience of watching it. Its too real, and there's very little time to relax in between the scenes of such intense emotion. There is definitely a humanity to both Johan and Marianne, so by the end its hard to hate either one(I was not fond of Johan for the majority of it), but each and every scene was just exhausting. I can't even imagine what it would have been like to actually be there shooting this stuff. Liv Ullmann is a goddess.

I guess I kinda broke the rules and watched Sudden Impact, which was also on my list. It was ok, but not as good as I was hoping for considering Eastwood directed it. The Harry Callahan character is a side attraction to an almost completely separate revenge story that he never seems to have much of an effect on. It was weird how little he actually participated in the main plot.

Remaining list with 2 new entries:

The Insider: The subject matter of this movie never interested me, but by all accounts it has two powerhouse performances and its Michael Mann so I'm sure its good.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Cape Fear: Its Scorsese and Deniro, I'm not sure what I've been waiting for with this one.

Cronos - I love Del Toro and I love horror but for some reason I've never seen this.

Lincoln: As a film lover every DDL performance is a must see, its as simple as that.

Jamaica Inn - This is the Hitchcock slot for now, Jamaica Inn was made a year before my last pick, Foreign Correspondent.

Sansho the Bailiff: Mizoguchi is one of the two or three greatest Japanese directors of all-time, but I've only seen Ugetsu. I've heard several famous American directors speak very highly about Sansho the Bailiff in particular.

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