TFR General Question Thread: Being wrong never felt so right.

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wilfoy: Jan 21, 2004

GroovinPickle posted:

That guy is me, and the turnaround time wasn't a huge issue if the gun had been fixed/replaced the first time, but even then it took more than twice as long as Sig did for a similar service (except Sig actually addressed the problem, which was comparatively minor: a poor DA trigger pull).

I got a lemon, no big deal, but they sent the same lemon right back to me twice, when a ten second function check would have shown that the problem still existed. Add a couple of range trips in there to test just to be sure (as the S&W CS guy suggested even after I explained how the gun failed the most basic function test), a few trips to FedEx, and several phone calls, so please excuse my internet fury which you have unwittingly rekindled.

That really sucks dude but your experience is a rare exception to S&W's widespread reputation for excellent customer service.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 04:10

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# ? May 19, 2013 08:03

thermobollocks: Jul 5, 2009; GET A DILLON

Sten Freak posted:

Yeah the camo receiver just needed to be broken in as it had some overspray and general roughness. We need to have another shoot in a few weeks. Weather is getting nice so I'll bump the CO thread if no one else does in a bit.

Somebody besides Sylink has to shoot my full-house .45-70 loads

# ? Apr 22, 2011 05:45

hangedman: Dec 20, 2003; Fish out of water

CAT ON THE COUCH!! posted:

That's what I was thinking. I've got a .40 cal pistol and it seems silly to introduce a THIRD pistol caliber into the mix.

The funny thing is that I usually use the opposite rationale to justify a new purchase. I didn't have a .40, so I bought a .40 last year. I have a really good 9mm now, so I really haven't seen a need to get another one. I figure that different ammo supplies will force me to shoot every gun I own. When I had a Model 41 and a Ruger Mark II, there was really zero reason to shoot the Ruger. By way of comparison, I have about 1400+ rounds of 7.62 x 25, and the only thing that can possibly shoot that is my CZ-52. I don't like the gun, but poo poo, with that much ammo sitting around, you can bet I'll throw it in the range bag.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 08:41

Raptor1033: Dec 17, 2010; This horse has a wack case of poo brain!

hangedman posted:

my CZ-52. I don't like the gun

Why don't you like it? I'm in the middle of buying one and it looks awesome as poo poo, quit making me nervous!

# ? Apr 22, 2011 11:38

Sten Freak: Sep 10, 2008; Hold your stomach until the end

Raptor1033 posted:

Why don't you like it? I'm in the middle of buying one and it looks awesome as poo poo, quit making me nervous!

Are you buying the one from the classifieds here? Because if so you got a good deal in my opinion. The price was fair if it had the original grips but with those nice wood grips and replaced firing pin it was really a score. I just sold mine but actually considered trying to buy that one. Mine was more accurate than my polish Tokarev and was fun to shoot. The real bag on them is that they're not very comfortable in the hand and the sights are primitive. You'll probably really enjoy shooting it so don't sweat it. Also I noticed it looked like the import stamp was underneath the gun instead of CAI's usually slide stamp so that was a plus in my book. PM me if you hate it, maybe we can make a deal

thermobollocks posted:

Somebody besides Sylink has to shoot my full-house .45-70 loads

I really really want to shoot your .45-70.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 13:08

Totally TWISTED: Sep 13, 2005; Also, angels.

How does TFR view FB in regards to firearms and their ownership? What I mean is do you share pictures of your new gun purchases and range trips etc on facebook?

Personally I have firearms listed in my interests but beyond that I never post anything else regarding firearm things I own or do.*

*With the exception of news articles sometimes.

Am I being paranoid?

# ? Apr 22, 2011 13:43

Robot Battalion: May 26, 2001

Sten Freak posted:

The price was fair if it had the original grips but with those nice wood grips and replaced firing pin it was really a score.

It does come with the bakelite ones also. I was too lazy to photograph them.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 13:49

Gray Stormy: Dec 19, 2006

Totally TWISTED posted:

How does TFR view FB in regards to firearms and their ownership? What I mean is do you share pictures of your new gun purchases and range trips etc on facebook?

Personally I have firearms listed in my interests but beyond that I never post anything else regarding firearm things I own or do.*

*With the exception of news articles sometimes.

Am I being paranoid?

Ill post pictures of stuff I own, but I make sure that I dont take any pictures of where any of it is stored.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 13:50

wilfoy: Jan 21, 2004

All my pictures of guns on Facebook were taken at the range while I was there with friends, and you can't view any aspect of my profile unless I'm friends with you. This is the South, though, so roughly 50% of the people I know have at least one picture on facebook of themselves firing a gun or going hunting.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 13:54

Easychair Bootson: May 7, 2004; _{Where's the last guy?

Ultimo hombre.

Last man standing.

Must've been one.}

wilfoy posted:

That really sucks dude but your experience is a rare exception to S&W's widespread reputation for excellent customer service.

Oh, I know, that's why it was so surprising/frustrating to have what amounts to back-to-back poor service from them. Believe me, if they had fixed it the first time or even the second I wouldn't even pipe up, but my experience was in such sharp contrast to what I expected that I just have to bitch about it occasionally.

edit: to reiterate, I love that drat PPS and I'd buy another S&W/Walther without hesitation

Totally TWISTED posted:

How does TFR view FB in regards to firearms and their ownership? What I mean is do you share pictures of your new gun purchases and range trips etc on facebook?

I don't post "look at all this expensive poo poo I own" pictures, but I think there's one picture of me on FB shooting a gun. But like wilfoy, I'm in the south, so it's not exactly rare.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 14:58

Mad Dragon: Feb 29, 2004

GroovinPickle posted:

I don't post "look at all this expensive poo poo I own" pictures

I do, complete with giant sunglasses, duckface, and peace sign.

_{not really}

# ? Apr 22, 2011 15:00

infrared35: Jan 12, 2005

Mad Dragon posted:

I do, complete with giant sunglasses, duckface, and peace sign.

_{not really}

Those are in the Photobucket EULA, not Facebook. It's just that there's so much crossover that people get confused.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 15:15

Kommienzuspadt: Apr 28, 2004; This bear is tops blooby

I recently purged my facebook of gun pictures, as the field I am getting into is not super permissive of that sort of thing.

If there are still a few floating around then I don't mind but I decided to make "guns" less of a theme on a ver public website, no matter how heavy my privacy settings are.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 15:37

DELETED: Nov 14, 2004; Disgruntled

I have a photo of me shooting a machine gun, but my profile is private. The place I live is very, very gun friendly though, and not being into guns would probably damage your reputation more than having them.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 15:48

Naramyth: Jan 22, 2009; Your post is bad and you should feel bad.

Mxlplx posted:

Quick question

I do not have a C&R license but I do have a C&R eligible firearm I am selling to a licence.

Can I ship the gun to him directly or do I need to ship from a store to the buyer?

A bit late but you can only ship a rifle directly from you to the C&R holder. A pistol will still have to go though a FFL on your end.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 16:22

I like turtles: Aug 6, 2009; "Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

W ell...

Naramyth posted:

A bit late but you can only ship a rifle directly from you to the C&R holder. A pistol will still have to go though a FFL on your end.

I don't think that's universally true, though it may be on a state by state basis.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 16:36

Pitch: Jun 16, 2005; It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.

The USPS will only accept handguns from FFL holders. But anyone can ship one, assuming they go through UPS or FedEx.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 16:49

I like turtles: Aug 6, 2009; "Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

W ell...

Pitch posted:

The USPS will only accept handguns from FFL holders. But anyone can ship one, assuming they go through UPS or FedEx.

Not FFL03, right? Or have I been complicating my shipping process needlessly?

# ? Apr 22, 2011 16:51

LifeSizePotato: Mar 3, 2005

I like turtles posted:

Not FFL03, right? Or have I been complicating my shipping process needlessly?

Right, for a handgun and USPS you have to be FFL01.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 17:16

Robot Battalion: May 26, 2001

Fedex says I, as an unlicensed seller, can ship C&R to a licensed holder providing I show a copy of their license upon shipment. I have to send it priority overnight though.

Now lets see If I can find a Fedex store nearby that will not freak the gently caress out like.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 17:33

I like turtles: Aug 6, 2009; "Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

W ell...

Mxlplx posted:

Fedex says I, as an unlicensed seller, can ship C&R to a licensed holder providing I show a copy of their license upon shipment. I have to send it priority overnight though.

Now lets see If I can find a Fedex store nearby that will not still freak the gently caress out.

While sending a handgun through USPS without a license is a felony, fedex and UPS can't charge you with felonies for not telling them what you're shipping and so shipping it slower/cheaper than they would like.
So if you want to risk it you could send it cheap. You're hosed if it gets lost or damaged, but from what I understand of the insurance policies of both carriers, you're still pretty hosed anyhow.

Just be sure you're sending it to someone with the appropriate license, and you're legally OK.

Generally you'll have to send it from a hub if you declare it as a firearm though.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 17:39

thermobollocks: Jul 5, 2009; GET A DILLON

LifeSizePotato posted:

Right, for a handgun and USPS you have to be FFL01.

Wait, FFL03 doesn't count? I can't receive a C&R handgun (as a C&R licenseholder) through USPS?

# ? Apr 22, 2011 17:43

Comfy sponk: Mar 30, 2007

thermobollocks posted:

Wait, FFL03 doesn't count? I can't receive a C&R handgun (as a C&R licenseholder) through USPS?

They're talking about shipping OUT a handgun. Sending out through USPS requires 01.

If you are a FFL03, you can receive from either USPS or UPS/Fedex.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 17:48

Not Nipsy Russell: Oct 6, 2004; Failure is always an option.

Raptor1033 posted:

Why don't you like it? I'm in the middle of buying one and it looks awesome as poo poo, quit making me nervous!

I can vouch for that particular CZ52 as a former owner. It is awesome as poo poo, especially if you like to figure out how things work. And cheap to shoot. And super distinctive looking. I sold because I needed to make room for other guns. The only negatives I can think of are the small sights, and the very long grip length. It takes some getting used to at first.

For fun, when you receive it, shoot cinder blocks, phone books, and kevlar helmets, and watch the 7.62 round just melt right through all of them. It's a tiny rocket. Box o Truth session with the Cz52.

New firing pin should last just about forever, and the Marschal grips are solid and comfortable.

Also, since this has moved from goon to goon to goon, I'm calling it the SeeZeeFiftyGoon.

Not Nipsy Russell fucked around with this message at Apr 22, 2011 around 18:20

# ? Apr 22, 2011 18:13

shovelbum: Oct 21, 2010; The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is at that height, everybody looks like ants.

Kommienzuspadt posted:

I recently purged my facebook of gun pictures, as the field I am getting into is not super permissive of that sort of thing.

I thought you were getting into medicine? Rich doctors love their fine firearms!

# ? Apr 22, 2011 21:32

Itchy_Grundle: Feb 22, 2003

I need a gun safe. Looking for something like a 30 gun safe with some decent fire protection. This is a life long investment. Many years from now I want my kids to have to figure out how to get it out of my house after I'm found dead on the toilet with an empty Cheez-it box on my head. I know to expect to pay up to a few grand for this. (The safe, not the Cheez-its).

Not knowing much about how the major brands compare to one another I was hoping you guys might have some insight. Any recommendations?

I know... ...

(Fat Ogre)

# ? Apr 22, 2011 21:43

CAT ON THE COUCH!!: Mar 30, 2009; Hark!! Yonder goon hast defamed a lady!! Fear not, CoTC to the rescue!!

lol ponytar

I like turtles posted:

While sending a handgun through USPS without a license is a felony, fedex and UPS can't charge you with felonies for not telling them what you're shipping and so shipping it slower/cheaper than they would like.

This is true but they can definitely call someone to arrest you if they think something is suspicious. They probably won't, but it's happened before.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 21:57

kuffs: Mar 29, 2007; Projectile Dysfunction

Itchy_Grundle posted:

I need a gun safe. Looking for something like a 30 gun safe with some decent fire protection. This is a life long investment. Many years from now I want my kids to have to figure out how to get it out of my house after I'm found dead on the toilet with an empty Cheez-it box on my head. I know to expect to pay up to a few grand for this. (The safe, not the Cheez-its).

Not knowing much about how the major brands compare to one another I was hoping you guys might have some insight. Any recommendations?

I know... ... (Fat Ogre)

I don't know that this will fit 30, but these rotating safes got shown off at SHOT and I'd love to get one http://www.pendletonsafes.com/safes/. Lots of good design considerations.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 23:10

shovelbum: Oct 21, 2010; The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is at that height, everybody looks like ants.

What's the deal with like bigass safes from a century ago, I see them all the time and they look built like poo poo brickhouses and weigh a billion pounds and seem to be made from solid steel.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 23:48

Itchy_Grundle: Feb 22, 2003

kuffs posted:

I don't know that this will fit 30, but these rotating safes got shown off at SHOT and I'd love to get one http://www.pendletonsafes.com/safes/. Lots of good design considerations.

That's pretty cool, thanks for the link. Not sure if it's big enough, and I'd prefer some shelves to store other random crap but it is definitely something different.

I'd have to get the motorized one and make it play cool sound effects when I take out guns.

# ? Apr 22, 2011 23:54

Mad Dragon: Feb 29, 2004

Try a Liberty safe.

http://www.libertysafe.com

# ? Apr 22, 2011 23:58

Easychair Bootson: May 7, 2004; _{Where's the last guy?

Ultimo hombre.

Last man standing.

Must've been one.}

Mad Dragon posted:

http://www.libertysafe.com

It'll help ya' live a better life.

dye a beatus

# ? Apr 23, 2011 00:28

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; I am a closet nazi apologist.

shovelbum posted:

What's the deal with like bigass safes from a century ago, I see them all the time and they look built like poo poo brickhouses and weigh a billion pounds and seem to be made from solid steel.

If you cam find one cheap they're great

One of my uncles has his guns in am old small bank safe (maybe four by four by five feet) and you would seriously need to be the dudes from Heat to get in it. He got it at an auction after a local bank went under for really cheap. Just be aware that they are loving heavy. His winning that auction was dependent on him transporting it out himself and that day. He didn't even bother fixing it to the floor in his garage. His words: "fucker that can get that thing out before I get home deserves the guns more than me".

# ? Apr 23, 2011 00:34

Robot Battalion: May 26, 2001

Mad Dragon posted:

Try a Liberty safe.

http://www.libertysafe.com

After my break-in I bought a safe from them. It is awesome.

Seriously, a good safe will cost about as much as a decent AR, and if you have 3 ARs, several pistols, and several shotguns it's worth it for you spend a little on a really good safe. Hell, if you have only 1 expensive gun it is worth it.

# ? Apr 23, 2011 00:47

Kommienzuspadt: Apr 28, 2004; This bear is tops blooby

shovelbum posted:

I thought you were getting into medicine? Rich doctors love their fine firearms!

I am. take a look at my profile picture, that sort of thing doesnt go down so hot with pediatricians.

# ? Apr 23, 2011 01:05

22 Eargesplitten: Oct 10, 2010; I'm conducting an experiment to see if removing your shitty avatar will improve your shitty taste in black metal

Is it the one where you're holding the severed head of Elmo, or the mangled carcass of Winnie the Pooh?

# ? Apr 23, 2011 01:09

Kommienzuspadt: Apr 28, 2004; This bear is tops blooby

By the way, as long as we're talking general questions, how would I go about getting my nickel RIA 1911 re-finished? I understand that stripping the original nickel is kind of a pain in the rear end....

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Is it the one where you're holding the severed head of Elmo, or the mangled carcass of Winnie the Pooh?

I was thinking the one of me and a naked jon benet ramsey.

# ? Apr 23, 2011 01:18

shovelbum: Oct 21, 2010; The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is at that height, everybody looks like ants.

Kommienzuspadt posted:

I am. take a look at my profile picture, that sort of thing doesnt go down so hot with pediatricians.

A clean-cut young man sighting in for deer season! Probably has good Republican values! I can trust him with my kids!

# ? Apr 23, 2011 01:18

Kommienzuspadt: Apr 28, 2004; This bear is tops blooby

shovelbum posted:

A clean-cut young man sighting in for deer season! Probably has good Republican values! I can trust him with my kids!

Haha perhaps where you are. Actually I guess my boss has indicated that he is interested in firearms, vaguely. Maybe I should go out shooting with him. My lab supervisor, however, is at best indifferent so I dont linger on the topic long if I mention that I've been shooting recently.

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# ? May 19, 2013 08:03

Illegal Clown: Feb 18, 2004

I'm glad I work at a job where the supervisor asked a coworker to bring his competition shotgun into the office so he could see it.

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