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Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010



CAT ON THE COUCH!! posted:

Awesome, I'm in then

I've bought their 5.56 and 9x19mm, and both are really very good. One thing I can say about their 55gr 5.56 over Lake City is that out of 1000 rounds I average 10-15 duds from Lake City (either hard or slow primers), whereas I've never had any bad rounds in Georgia Arms' stuff.

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Bogon
Nov 7, 2006


shovelbum posted:

Any luck at the Raleigh show? I was just there today, picked up some powder from the big display that's always in the back to save hazmat shipping and a tround from the obsolete ammo guys that are always in the front corner to the left when you walk in. My friend almost bought a Mosin but decided against it at the last second. I tried explaining Mosins to him but he was just like "yeah, I don't care, I just want it because it's $80".

No I really don't go there to buy even I tend to finger gently caress a pistol and or rifle I have my eye on so I can go though a goon ran shop to buy. But on occasion more like once in a blue moon I do find a deal. Today since I went after lunch all I could do is rage at the frat boys and tailor trash blocking the isles fawning over mall ninja crap decked out in finest that UTG has to offer and the morons in the center of the complex. I really had no clue who the gently caress they were but holy poo poo did they bring out the best of that NC has to offer. They would make the British royal family envious of their lack of genetic diversity in their family lineage.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is at that height, everybody looks like ants.


Bogon posted:

They would make the British royal family envious of their lack of genetic diversity in their family lineage.

The Lizard Lick reality show people? I have no clue what the deal is with that but it looked pretty trashy. Did you see the whole table of CHEAP AR LOWERS - all Roggio!

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

My dad recently bought an ultrasonic bath cleaner for cleaning antique clock works, and it says it's excellent for firearms, too. Anybody used one of these before? Its not going to shake the blue off the steel or implode them into a singularity or anything, right? He's going to test it on an older revolver first before he tries any of his better guns. We've used it to clean clocks and jewelry a lot, and it's done a great job.

Also, he's got a warm-oil bath, that he uses on clockworks as well. He thought running pistols through the ultrasound, then doing an oil bath would probably be a drat thorough cleaning and lubrication. Are we going to break anything this way?


I'm hoping this works, so I don't have to take apart my MkIII Hunter for cleaning

Totally TWISTED
Sep 13, 2005

Also, angels.




Seems like that would be too much oil covering everything. You just want to lube the points of friction not cover the whole gun in oil for a reenactment of Brokeback Mountain.

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Hold your stomach until the end

Dr Ozziemandius posted:

My dad recently bought an ultrasonic bath cleaner for cleaning antique clock works, and it says it's excellent for firearms, too. Anybody used one of these before? Its not going to shake the blue off the steel or implode them into a singularity or anything, right? He's going to test it on an older revolver first before he tries any of his better guns. We've used it to clean clocks and jewelry a lot, and it's done a great job.

Also, he's got a warm-oil bath, that he uses on clockworks as well. He thought running pistols through the ultrasound, then doing an oil bath would probably be a drat thorough cleaning and lubrication. Are we going to break anything this way?


I'm hoping this works, so I don't have to take apart my MkIII Hunter for cleaning
I've read some threads on ultrasonic cleaners on subguns. From what I recall, people really like the good ones. Size of gun or part and cleaner is an issue sometimes too. Definitely try it and let us know. It's one of those luxuries that sounds really nice - just drop in your stuff and walk away, and it gets all the little crevices and hard to reach parts. I guess you'd dry with compressed air if you have a compressor.

Dr Ozziemandius
Apr 28, 2011

If MLP doesn't warm your heart, you're already Dead Inside.

Totally TWISTED posted:

Seems like that would be too much oil covering everything. You just want to lube the points of friction not cover the whole gun in oil for a reenactment of Brokeback Mountain.

Well, we were planning on using the oil like a rinse to flush any leftover grit out. It's a really, really light grade of oil for clocks that he was going to use. He was going to let it soak, then drain it off, wipe it down, and blow it out with the compressor. I'll see how they look when they come out of the ultrasonic fluid.

Sten Freak posted:

I've read some threads on ultrasonic cleaners on subguns. From what I recall, people really like the good ones. Size of gun or part and cleaner is an issue sometimes too. Definitely try it and let us know. It's one of those luxuries that sounds really nice - just drop in your stuff and walk away, and it gets all the little crevices and hard to reach parts. I guess you'd dry with compressed air if you have a compressor.

It does a great job on jewelry. He ran some old rings and stuff through it and they came out looking brand new.

Crunkjuice
Apr 4, 2007

That could've gotten in my eye!
*launches teargas at unarmed protestors*

I THINK OAKLAND PD'S USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED!


Dr Ozziemandius posted:

My dad recently bought an ultrasonic bath cleaner for cleaning antique clock works, and it says it's excellent for firearms, too. Anybody used one of these before? Its not going to shake the blue off the steel or implode them into a singularity or anything, right? He's going to test it on an older revolver first before he tries any of his better guns. We've used it to clean clocks and jewelry a lot, and it's done a great job.

Also, he's got a warm-oil bath, that he uses on clockworks as well. He thought running pistols through the ultrasound, then doing an oil bath would probably be a drat thorough cleaning and lubrication. Are we going to break anything this way?


I'm hoping this works, so I don't have to take apart my MkIII Hunter for cleaning

It does work really well. Depending on what type of sonic cleaner you are using using a few drops of a cleaning agent will help. I've used them on musical instruments, scuba regulators, and guns and they are awesome. gently caress taking apart my trigger when i can just put that bitch in there and a few hours later its clean.

Propagandalf
Dec 6, 2008

itchy itchy itchy itchy

Would an ultrasonic cleaner mess up tritium sights?


Did anyone else see a price drop in Wal Mart WWB? My usual $24.50 boxes of 9mm are now $22.97.

Boner Wad
Nov 16, 2003


Would a "clean-fire" type ammo like the Speer Lawman Clean-Fire ammo increase wear on my firing pin?

My understanding is that the primers are harder than the lead based primers. If it matters I have Sigs, I don't know what material they use for their firing pins.

SweetChill
May 11, 2009


Australian here. My brother is going to Vegas, LA and Hawaii in a couple weeks, and with our strong dollar I suggested he pick up a scope for his .243 tikka t3 while over there.

What is the name of/where is a good walk in store to buy optics in the above mentioned locations?

Cheers

Crunkjuice
Apr 4, 2007

That could've gotten in my eye!
*launches teargas at unarmed protestors*

I THINK OAKLAND PD'S USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED!


Propagandalf posted:

Would an ultrasonic cleaner mess up tritium sights?

From what i've read its not a good idea. It probably won't damage the tritium itself, but it might mess with whatever bonding agent keeps them in the sight. I read somewhere that someone said trijicon said it was a bad idea, but i couldn't find anything on trijicons site.

Chantilly Say
Apr 18, 2008

A man's got to know his limitations.

Also, death to My Little Pony.


SweetChill posted:

Australian here. My brother is going to Vegas, LA and Hawaii in a couple weeks, and with our strong dollar I suggested he pick up a scope for his .243 tikka t3 while over there.

What is the name of/where is a good walk in store to buy optics in the above mentioned locations?

Cheers

Be forewarned that there may be international laws regulating the importation of shooting accessories to Australia.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

I have the 50th and Final Pony Av!

Chantilly Say posted:

Be forewarned that there may be international laws regulating the importation of shooting accessories to Australia.

I'd be more worried about the US export laws.

SweetChill
May 11, 2009


Chantilly Say posted:

Be forewarned that there may be international laws regulating the importation of shooting accessories to Australia.

I've had holsters, scopes, magazines etc all come in fine in the past. Don't know if anything has changed since then though.

Quantum Koala
Apr 21, 2010

Revvin' up your engine
Listen to her howlin' roar
Metal under tension
Beggin' you to touch and go


Chantilly Say posted:

Be forewarned that there may be international laws regulating the importation of shooting accessories to Australia.

Scopes are fine to import into Australia.
Export from America, however,.... I dont know.

I was looking into getting a EOTech over here but Capella's wouldn't export them
All I can find in Australia is Bushnell Holosight at twice the price of the more expensive EOtechs considering the Australian Moon-Dollar is now higher then yours, importing would be awesome.

Also answer my question about bolt action shottys

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Oh well looky what what we got ourselves over here.

Not a question. Nevermind.

Flaming Iguana
Dec 24, 2001
I got this account for Xmas.

Boner Wad posted:

Would a "clean-fire" type ammo like the Speer Lawman Clean-Fire ammo increase wear on my firing pin?

My understanding is that the primers are harder than the lead based primers. If it matters I have Sigs, I don't know what material they use for their firing pins.

I can't speak to the clean-fire primers specifically, but I've never heard of "too hard" primers causing extra firing pin wear. Harder primers may cause unreliable ignition in guns that don't strike the primer with enough force.

DasReich
Mar 5, 2010


Quantum Koala posted:

I have found a used Mossberg 195K-A 12G Bolt action Shotgun for sale for $300 Australian Moon-Dollars. Has anyone used one of these before? I am interested as the gun looks in good nic and there are not many options for repeating shotguns in Australia.

In my experience (I've had a Marlin and a Mossberg) bolt action shotguns brutalize your shoulder. For me the felt recoil drastically increased over a Winchester Model 12 with the same shells and barrel length. The 1887 Winchester may be a option though, I had read an article not long ago saying someone was making replicas specifically for the Australian market.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


The only bolt-action shotgun I've ever fired was a Sears-rebranded...um...Stevens(?) 20ga. I shot it side-by-side with a 12ga 870 and the recoil was significantly worse. The gun was lighter for sure, but not enough to make the recoil so nasty on the shoulder. It's still a mystery to me how it could kick so hard.

Primers would have to be pretty loving hard to damage a firing pin, and you'd have to shoot a whole shitload of them to have a problem. That's my take on it.

Quantum Koala
Apr 21, 2010

Revvin' up your engine
Listen to her howlin' roar
Metal under tension
Beggin' you to touch and go


DasReich posted:

In my experience (I've had a Marlin and a Mossberg) bolt action shotguns brutalize your shoulder. For me the felt recoil drastically increased over a Winchester Model 12 with the same shells and barrel length. The 1887 Winchester may be a option though, I had read an article not long ago saying someone was making replicas specifically for the Australian market.
Thanks for the info.

Yes there is a assortment of 1887s in Australia, however, they are quite a bit more expensive ($600 to $1000 used)
Also I have been told that loads need to be kept a bit low even for the modern repos.
(I still want one though)

I guess my only question is there anything HORRIBLY wrong with the guns.

Quantum Koala fucked around with this message at May 2, 2011 around 13:36

Itchy_Grundle
Feb 22, 2003



A friend of the family passed away this weekend, leaving a handgun behind. His sister asked for help in determining its value as she probably intends to sell it. I have no pictures, just the following description from my dad:

"S&S (Sauer & Sohn) Model 30, 7.65 (.32) ser # 227XX in average (-) condition. I think its either early or pre- WWII."

Pretty sure it's one of these: http://curioandrelicfirearmsforum.y...p-Sohn-Model-30

Gunbroker shows one with a buy it now in the mid-$300 range. Do any of you guys know much about these?

DasReich
Mar 5, 2010


Quantum Koala posted:

Thanks for the info.

Yes there is a assortment of 1887s in Australia, however, they are quite a bit more expensive ($600 to $1000 used)
Also I have been told that loads need to be kept a bit low even for the modern repos.
(I still want one though)

I guess my only question is there anything HORRIBLY wrong with the guns.


Nothing horribly wrong to my knowledge. They just never caught on here in the States because of the popularity of the pump action. If it came down to it, I'd use one. THe 1887 is a rolling block action and from what I understand they're built to handle modern 2 3/4" loads. I've been wanting one myself.

Bogon
Nov 7, 2006


shovelbum posted:

The Lizard Lick reality show people? I have no clue what the deal is with that but it looked pretty trashy. Did you see the whole table of CHEAP AR LOWERS - all Roggio!

Yea what was the deal with all those lowers I just walked by rolling my eyes. I really didn't even see how much they were asking? Knowing dealersat that show it was probably marked up to around $200 per lower.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

I'm thinking about having laser eye surgery (PRK, the no-touch) and I was wondering if anyone had any comments on it in the context of shooting. Any issues? Does it seem pretty weird for the first while? Did it throw off your accuracy for a while?

Apparently my corrected vision will be 20/15 so that'll be cool, but it could take up to a year for my eyes to get there.

CAT ON THE COUCH!!
Mar 30, 2009

Hark!! Yonder goon hast defamed a lady!! Fear not, CoTC to the rescue!!

lol ponytar


priznat posted:

I'm thinking about having laser eye surgery (PRK, the no-touch) and I was wondering if anyone had any comments on it in the context of shooting. Any issues? Does it seem pretty weird for the first while? Did it throw off your accuracy for a while?

Apparently my corrected vision will be 20/15 so that'll be cool, but it could take up to a year for my eyes to get there.

My parents had it a couple years ago. You'll get halos around lights usually only at night, and my dad still has to use glasses for reading. I don't think either of those would impact shooting much except maybe with a dot.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is at that height, everybody looks like ants.


Bogon posted:

Yea what was the deal with all those lowers I just walked by rolling my eyes. I really didn't even see how much they were asking? Knowing dealersat that show it was probably marked up to around $200 per lower.

Roggios were wildly out of spec and made in Fayetteville, they were dumping them for $60 brand new, the things were all beat up and gouged straight from the factory, holes visibly crudely drilled, not a one of them likely would've worked.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


Where is a good source for cheap metric FAL magazines? Apex has some for $15, but I feel like I should be able to get them cheaper than that, since about a zillion of them were made.

LingcodKilla
Dec 28, 2002

BUY MORE CRABS


priznat posted:

I'm thinking about having laser eye surgery (PRK, the no-touch) and I was wondering if anyone had any comments on it in the context of shooting. Any issues? Does it seem pretty weird for the first while? Did it throw off your accuracy for a while?

Apparently my corrected vision will be 20/15 so that'll be cool, but it could take up to a year for my eyes to get there.

I got it done back in 2005 and it was loving amazing. No shooting issues what so ever. The halo effect is much less with the current treatment plan but it does bother me a little when I drive at night but I have learned to ignore it. My right eye is slightly better than 20/20 and the left eye is roughly 20/20.

Getting your eyes sliced and diced was disgusting but I'm glad I sacked up and did it. You guys have it easy these days with the no-cut procedure.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006


priznat posted:

I'm thinking about having laser eye surgery (PRK, the no-touch) and I was wondering if anyone had any comments on it in the context of shooting. Any issues? Does it seem pretty weird for the first while? Did it throw off your accuracy for a while?

Apparently my corrected vision will be 20/15 so that'll be cool, but it could take up to a year for my eyes to get there.

When I walked out of the building after my surgery I could see almost perfectly. Shooting was much easier for me after surgery.

BigLove
Nov 19, 2009


Time to get mine done. Priznat, I'll go with you, we get combo deal. I wish

CAT ON THE COUCH!!
Mar 30, 2009

Hark!! Yonder goon hast defamed a lady!! Fear not, CoTC to the rescue!!

lol ponytar


How much is it for both eyes? Do HMOs cover it?

TACTICAL SANDALS
Nov 6, 2009

all aboard the failboat bromigo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-DtIAzWVc

If you haven't seen it before, make sure you watch at least until the educational video sequence.

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

11B gobble bronies every day


priznat posted:

I'm thinking about having laser eye surgery (PRK, the no-touch) and I was wondering if anyone had any comments on it in the context of shooting. Any issues? Does it seem pretty weird for the first while? Did it throw off your accuracy for a while?

Apparently my corrected vision will be 20/15 so that'll be cool, but it could take up to a year for my eyes to get there.

I had PRK done this last December. The first three days after sucked, then things started to get slowly better from there. I was functional within a week and a half or so, and right now my vision is sitting at 20/13. (This is ~5 months after the surgery.) My shooting accuracy was a bit off, but this may well also have been not having shot for 3-4 months before getting the PRK done.

The only noticeable oddity was that for the first month or so, when looking at my Aimpoint T1 through a 3x magnifier, it would show up as two dots, one at the 2 o'clock of the other. It depended on how tired my eyes were at the time. This has now since ceased.

My eyes had a tendency to get a slight bit dry for the first couple months, but I figure that's just as much to do with not wearing glasses to block the wind as anything. They've normalized by now.

Best money I ever spent.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Nice, thanks for the infos guys. I get a bit of a deal on a corporate rate so I guess I'll just go ahead and book it! It'll be nice not having to futz around with contacts or glasses anymore.

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

If only they could do something for hearing, too

Ozmiander
Dec 1, 2009

Jeep


gimpsuitjones posted:

If only they could do something for hearing, too

WHAT?

wilfoy
Jan 21, 2004


I'm jealous about you guys being eligible for corrective surgery. I'm doomed to a life of barely passing the DMV vision test.

Wa11y
Jul 23, 2002

Did I say "cookies?" I meant, "Fire in your face!"

The Rat posted:

Best money I ever spent.

Word. Got Lasik last April, and it's awesome. Pretty much the same vision as I had with contacts (20/15), but now if my eyes are dry, I don't have to worry about my contacts irritating me. I get some slight halos at night, but it's no worse than it was with contacts.

Basically, my vision is as good as it ever was, but now I don't have to worry about running out of contacts, or having my eyes dry out and hurting, and have to take them out and be blind. All the joy, none of the complications.

Red dots and scopes don't seem to have any problems either, and neither do iron sights. Seriously, if you can get any sort of corrective vision surgery, DO IT!

gimpsuitjones posted:

If only they could do something for hearing, too

I would be happy if they could just get rid of the tinnitus in my right ear. I don't even care if I get back the lost highs and lows. Just get rid of the constant ringing.

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Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Wa11y posted:

I would be happy if they could just get rid of the tinnitus in my right ear. I don't even care if I get back the lost highs and lows. Just get rid of the constant ringing.

Only in your right? Lucky guy.

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