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The Rat posted:
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:29 |
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BrutalDumpTruck posted:Random question: has anybody attempted to produce a licensed copy of the Tavor/X95 rifles/subguns in the US? There were rumors awhile back that Barrett was going to make some but nothing ever came of it AFAIK.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:39 |
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What's a good 7.62 AK, that costs as much as a basic AR-15? Where do I even start?
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:41 |
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The Rat posted:Please give me the specs on that build, specifically the base gun, rail (how it was attached) and handguard furniture, and the optic! That looks like something I'd want to convert my SGL-21 into.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:42 |
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SopWATh posted:What's a good 7.62 AK, that costs as much as a basic AR-15? Where do I even start? Saiga SGL-21? $650-$750, about the same as an entry level AR. Alternatively, I've heard good things about the milled Polish M1960s.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:55 |
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The Israeli rifles would just be something fun to have and shoot. I bet if anybody managed to do it the MSRP would be north of 2000 bux, though. I do want an Arsenal SGL-31 pretty bad, though. And then shoot lovely corrosive russian surplus ammo through it!  Edit: theclaw, please to tell me where I can find an Arsenal AK (preferably in 5.45) for 650. All the ones I have seen around here have been north of 800. BrutalDumpTruck fucked around with this message at Jun 14, 2011 around 04:59 |
| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:57 |
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The base gun is a Lancaster AK that came with a standard synthetic stock set. Honestly I'm not thrilled about it since the ejector blade's angle caused ejected brass to sometimes bounce back into the action, but that was solved by butchering the dust cover up quite a bit. Other than that, components are: Miso-manufactured left hand charging handle bolt carrier and dust cover Ultimak gas tube rail Ultimak railed lower handguard Aimpoint Micro H1 Ace stock adapter (the internal one that requires removal of the rear tang) and Magpul ACS Surefire 6P in a Larue offset mount AFG 74-type muzzle brake Krebs safety lever Not shown in this picture: lots of stippling on the AFG and pistol grip.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 04:59 |
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BrutalDumpTruck posted:Edit: theclaw, please to tell me where I can find an Arsenal AK (preferably in 5.45) for 650. All the ones I have seen around here have been north of 800. Talk to Mishaco or Southern Michigan Arms. I picked up the SGL21 (7.62) for $700 a few months ago, but IIRC the 31's running around $800.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 05:10 |
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The Rat posted:The base gun is a Lancaster AK that came with a standard synthetic stock set. Honestly I'm not thrilled about it since the ejector blade's angle caused ejected brass to sometimes bounce back into the action, but that was solved by butchering the dust cover up quite a bit. Nice, thanks! So basically you got this: http://ultimak.com/M1-b.htm And this: http://ultimak.com/ACR2.htm Would those two work on my SGL-21? I'm almost positive that yes, they will, but I'd like to make completely sure they will. Mine doesn't even have a bayonet lug (long story short, I live in NY, and had to have Mishaco take it off and refinish it, and permanently mount the muzzle break on). What are the advantages of the Krebs Safety lever? Just quicker, right? Also, would you use this type of setup in a 3 gun competition or a 1 week training course thing at something like Front Sight, Gun Site, Blackwater, etc? I know Tapco is complete and utter poo poo and have stayed away from them, but I'm not really sure what the TFR consensus is on Ultimak.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 05:45 |
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The Krebs lever is quicker and easier to use. One finger to go on/off safe vs taking the whole hand off the pistol grip. The cutout that serves to lock the bolt to the rear is also quite useful in conjunction with the left side charging handle. That way you can quickly lock the bolt to the rear when doing malfunction drills. And yeah, those two Ultimak rails should work. Just be sure to get the one for the stamped receiver and not milled. Despite the weight, I like having a longer handguard, since that way I can push my support hand up further on the weapon. Aside from problems with the base gun itself (the aforementioned ejector blade issue), none of the accessories have caused me any problems. Ultimak has a pretty good reputation from all the other forums I've read.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 05:59 |
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Has anyone had any experence with Mesa high-tube adapters? I am planing to get one for a Remington 7600 in .308 or 30-06.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 09:27 |
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The Rat posted:uuuggghhh 
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 13:37 |
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Bored As gently caress posted:What are the advantages of the Krebs Safety lever? Just quicker, right? The Krebs has a notch on it to allow it to catch the charging handle and lock the bolt back. No one who shoots 3-gun even halfway seriously uses an AK. They're not accurate enough and are harder to mount optics to. It's not to say you can't, it's just that you'll be at a competitive disadvantage.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 13:45 |
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Uncle Caveman posted:So, you'd rather have a gun made of aluminum and held together with pins? Yep. Lightweight and modular. I'm thinking about doing a Draco SBR, but that's literally the only AK I'd consider buying right now, and that's only because it's cheap as poo poo. Craptacular posted:The Krebs has a notch on it to allow it to catch the charging handle and lock the bolt back. There's also the longer reloads, harsher recoil, inferior fire controls, worse trigger, and increased weight when compared to an AR-15. wilfoy fucked around with this message at Jun 14, 2011 around 14:21 |
| # ? Jun 14, 2011 14:17 |
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wilfoy posted:increased weight when compared to an AR-15. You haven't seen the usual Tapco-O-Rama that accompanies half of 3-gun shooters, have you?
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 14:41 |
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The Tapco trigger on my WASR is actually quite nice.  Everything else about it is poo poo.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 14:50 |
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DkHelmet posted:You haven't seen the usual Tapco-O-Rama that accompanies half of 3-gun shooters, have you? I've never been to a 3-gun match, but I did 2-gun match a couple months ago and everyone there either had bone-stock carbines or really nice setups. I didn't see any tapco. Troy/VTAC tubes were the most popular, with Daniel Defense being common as well.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 14:52 |
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I've got some cracked aluminum rims that I'd like to shoot up before hauling them off to the scrap metal place. What's the safest way to shoot them with .45ACP, .22lr, x39, and 44mag? I'm thinking of putting them out at 50yds and going to town, but I'd rather not get hurt from a ricochet.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 15:29 |
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I wouldn't worry about it too much with aluminum.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 15:32 |
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walrusman posted:I wouldn't worry about it too much with aluminum. Well, I should at least angle them towards the dirt, right? I'm really just concerned about .22lr - I think everything else will just punch right through.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 15:37 |
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QuarkMartial posted:Well, I should at least angle them towards the dirt, right? I doubt the 45acp will punch through, considering how slow and fat it is.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 15:49 |
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The Rat posted:The Krebs lever is quicker and easier to use. One finger to go on/off safe vs taking the whole hand off the pistol grip. The cutout that serves to lock the bolt to the rear is also quite useful in conjunction with the left side charging handle. That way you can quickly lock the bolt to the rear when doing malfunction drills. Cool, thanks man. What kind of groupings you get with your setup? I'm not hoping for anything more than 4-5 MOA at 100yards to be honest, considering it's an AK.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 16:01 |
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About 4MOA, which I think is acceptable for an AK using Wolf ammo. Haven't tried it with match ammo or anything like that, because what's the point? It's an AK. I've never shot in any kind of competition yet, but I gotta agree with Craptacular, if I were to compete, I'd be taking an AR instead. That AK was basically just me seeing how far I could modernize it.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 16:22 |
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Is the SCAR-H (17S, whatever) chambered in .308 or 7.62x51? I am seeing conflicting opinions on the internets.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 23:14 |
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According to FN's site, 7.62. Which is unsurprising, considering it was designed as, you know, a military rifle.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 23:49 |
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I thought as much. I wasn't sure if there were any differences between the military and civilian models.
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| # ? Jun 14, 2011 23:59 |
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Male Man posted:According to FN's site, 7.62. Which is unsurprising, considering it was designed as, you know, a military rifle. FN's USA LE site seems to use 7.62x51 and .308 Winchester interchangeably. I can't imagine someone building a modern firearm for 7.62x51/.308 that couldn't take .308 Winchester pressures.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 00:03 |
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I'm presently looking hard at the SCAR and Bushmaster Masada. I really like them, but I know someone is going to call me a fool for considering spending that money when a servicable AR can be had for a third the cost. I wish the PS90 was available in a non-moon people cartridge. I'd be happier with that I think.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 17:55 |
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The SCAR is a ton of fun to shoot. Not so fun to be next to however.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 17:58 |
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Juice posted:I'm presently looking hard at the SCAR and Bushmaster Masada. I really like them, but I know someone is going to call me a fool for considering spending that money when a servicable AR can be had for a third the cost. The SCAR is pretty cool and there's no shame in paying a lot of money for a high-quality rifle. I like a lot of things about the ACR but the SCAR just feels like a more solid gun. I'm not a fan of the reciprocating charging handle, though.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 18:08 |
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Gray Stormy posted:The SCAR is a ton of fun to shoot. Not so fun to be next to however. Yea the muzzle blast on the sides is pretty terrible they say.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 18:18 |
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An a2 flash hider costs less than $10 and would cut down on the backblast significantly. You would also see an accompanying increase in felt recoil. You can't have it all, unfortunately.
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Juice posted:Yea the muzzle blast on the sides is pretty terrible they say. Having a sinus clearing fish-boot gun would trump that.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 18:23 |
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Gray Stormy posted:Having a sinus clearing fish-boot gun would trump that. And its not like you feel it when you are the one shooting it. You just annoy your neighbors.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 18:33 |
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Gray Stormy posted:Having a sinus clearing fish-boot gun would trump that. Oh god that brake. 
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 18:34 |
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Juice posted:I wish the PS90 was available in a non-moon people cartridge. I'd be happier with that I think. A 9mm bullpup SBR that used Calico-style helical magazines would be neat.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 18:43 |
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Thanks for the Primary Arms reflex sight Craptacular. Unfortunately they won't have more until the end of July.  
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 19:54 |
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Gray Stormy posted:Having a sinus clearing fish-boot gun would trump that. I like my sinus clearing fish boot rifle and next year at the Yooper shoot all my rifles will have the same brake. And I'll have all the room I need since no one wants to shoot next to me. In reality I am looking to replace the brake with a battlecomp. If I ditch the PWS brake I'll spray paint it blue (not that blue in real life) and send it to you. It might class your blue rifle up a bit.
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| # ? Jun 15, 2011 21:47 |
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Craptacular posted:A 9mm bullpup SBR that used Calico-style helical magazines would be neat. PS, i took my own advice.
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1833Marine posted:If I ditch the PWS brake I'll spray paint it blue (not that blue in real life) and send it to you. It might class your blue rifle up a bit. Haahahahahaha I love you.
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