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king of the bongo
Apr 26, 2008

If you're brown, GET DOWN!


1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

I have an old Stevens 53b, single shot .22lr rifle that I picked up a couple months ago, and today (have put ~ 500 rounds through it total) it started blasting something, hot air I think, back towards my face a bit when I fired. I'm thinking something is wrong with the seal around the chamber or the bolt, or is this just kinda something that single shot .22s can do. Visually, there are not sparks or anything flying back, just a puff of scalding air, and perhaps mini shrapnel too.

Do I just ditch the cheap gun and get a proper working rifle, or is it safe to keep using?
How clean is it? If you haven't scrubbed it clean yet, do that. My .22's will do that when I don't clean or lube them in a long long time.

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1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005

Phoenixes we can believe in

The gun was cleaned and oiled when I started, and I only shot about 25 rounds today... so not really enough to make it that dirty.

This is kind of what I'm thinking, but I guess I have no idea how bad/dangerous that is for a .22.
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1st_Panzer_Div. fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2010 around 16:57

HFX
Nov 29, 2004


king of the bongo posted:

How clean is it? If you haven't scrubbed it clean yet, do that. My .22's will do that when I don't clean or lube them in a long long time.

It sounds to me like a head spacing problem.

ohhhlethal
Dec 4, 2006

doubleGLOCK


edit:

Thread moves to fast, answered a 2 page old question

ohhhlethal fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2010 around 13:44

AR
Oct 26, 2005
a beautiful collision

king of the bongo posted:

How clean is it? If you haven't scrubbed it clean yet, do that. My .22's will do that when I don't clean or lube them in a long long time.

My dad passed down his '63 Ruger 10/22 - it hadn't been shot since '93 or '94? It was not accurate at all and bullets were not just keyholing, they were making some really strange holes in paper.

I took it home and rigged up a bore light for .22 - it looked like the Rocky Mountains. I soaked it in CLP on a few different occasions, but ended up having to put the barrel in a vice and hammer a brass cleaning rod through. I should have weighed the lead gunk that came out of it.

Now I make sure it gets cleaned regularly.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005



I'm dumb and only cleaned my WASR with a quick shot of gun cleaner the last time I fired it. For several months I've been shooting PB blaster into the barrel, toward the back of the piston, through the gas vents, and I even poured some Marvel Mystery Oil down there because I figured it can't hurt, might help. I broke my rubber mallet on the cocking lever and have been pounding it with a piece of wood in the hope that I'll break it free. Any ideas?

abortionfailure
Jun 29, 2006

perpetuatin the stereotype

Stomp on it with a good boot on.

Sgt. Shaved Balls
Sep 6, 2006

The Year Is 2053. Basketball Is Dead.


abortionfailure posted:

Stomp on it with a good boot on.

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


Can anyone recommend a decent clay pigeon thrower for around $100? Just something simple to throw one or two for messing around on my parents property.

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

I was like Oatmeal, are you CRAZY?!?

Atticus_1354 posted:

Can anyone recommend a decent clay pigeon thrower for around $100? Just something simple to throw one or two for messing around on my parents property.

Not sure about this particular model, but this style tends to work pretty well for just loving around.

ShaiHulud
Dec 31, 2007

by T. Finn


I'm pretty happy with the one I purchased from Do-All Outdoors. It's nothing terribly fancy, but it throws clays consistently. The tripod-base model pins to the ground and is pretty stable, but I'd recommend the one that mounts to a 4x4 post if you don't anticipate moving it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


ShaiHulud posted:

I'm pretty happy with the one I purchased from Do-All Outdoors. It's nothing terribly fancy, but it throws clays consistently. The tripod-base model pins to the ground and is pretty stable, but I'd recommend the one that mounts to a 4x4 post if you don't anticipate moving it.


That looks pretty good thanks. I like the price too. I may go for the tripod so I can transport it between my parents place and my friends place.

niggerstink420
Aug 7, 2009

by T. Fine


What is this mechanical poo poo? You need the slingshot manual kind, so you can inadvertently shoot half directly at the ground like god intended.

Schigolch
Apr 30, 2008

Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb, make thee?


Atticus_1354 posted:

Can anyone recommend a decent clay pigeon thrower for around $100? Just something simple to throw one or two for messing around on my parents property.

I am partial to This kind (also available @ cabelas, Sports Authority and probably academy) for just screwing around. They take a little practice to get the clays to do what you want to do, but once you get it down you can sling a clay as far as the cheap mechanical ones, and also make them do different things. Does make it harder to throw for yourself, though.

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

I was like Oatmeal, are you CRAZY?!?

Schigolch posted:

I am partial to This kind (also available @ cabelas, Sports Authority and probably academy) for just screwing around. They take a little practice to get the clays to do what you want to do, but once you get it down you can sling a clay as far as the cheap mechanical ones, and also make them do different things. Does make it harder to throw for yourself, though.

You also can't do doubles, at least with the one I paid $5 for at Gander Mtn.

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


The Automator posted:

You also can't do doubles, at least with the one I paid $5 for at Gander Mtn.

I think I may get the cheap one you linked for now and then upgrade when I have a better gun.

Schigolch
Apr 30, 2008

Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb, make thee?


The Automator posted:

You also can't do doubles, at least with the one I paid $5 for at Gander Mtn.

You can if you buy two

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

I had some trouble with the first thrower linked, depending on the soil condition it can just pull its spikes out of the ground after a throw. Mounting it on a spare tire would probably help a lot though.

Either that or come prepared with some good weights to put on the legs, randomly scavenged rocks didn't work too good

Veins McGee
May 26, 2004

Remember Veins?
He's back, in POG form

I never liked any of the ones that you stick in the ground. It seems like after a few throws they break loose from their stakes and flop around on the ground. That and they don't seem to throw very fast.

I could always get more velocity and more variety with a hand thrower. I guess you're kind of stuck if you have to throw for yourself.

Anyone ever try the trailer hitch mounted kind? They look a little more heavy duty.

priznat posted:

I had some trouble with the first thrower linked, depending on the soil condition it can just pull its spikes out of the ground after a throw. Mounting it on a spare tire would probably help a lot though.

Spare tires don't work very well in my experience.

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

I was like Oatmeal, are you CRAZY?!?

Veins McGee posted:

I never liked any of the ones that you stick in the ground. It seems like after a few throws they break loose from their stakes and flop around on the ground. That and they don't seem to throw very fast.

I could always get more velocity and more variety with a hand thrower. I guess you're kind of stuck if you have to throw for yourself.

Anyone ever try the trailer hitch mounted kind? They look a little more heavy duty.

My family used to have one that had four legs and a plastic chair, or you could remove the chair and rear legs and mount the middle beam in a trailor hitch. It was stable, but didn't throw them any better than one of the ones you stick in the ground. It had the exact same mechanism on the end.

I STRONGLY recommend that if you buy the one I linked earlier, that you mount it to an old tire. You should be able to get one from a junkyard for a few dollars, and it helps a lot.

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_6039413_a...rower-tire.html

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Oh well looky what what we got ourselves over here.

What's the site that helps you find dealers that do transfers and what they charge?

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


The Automator posted:

My family used to have one that had four legs and a plastic chair, or you could remove the chair and rear legs and mount the middle beam in a trailor hitch. It was stable, but didn't throw them any better than one of the ones you stick in the ground. It had the exact same mechanism on the end.

I STRONGLY recommend that if you buy the one I linked earlier, that you mount it to an old tire. You should be able to get one from a junkyard for a few dollars, and it helps a lot.

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_6039413_a...rower-tire.html

I will probably weld up a mount so I can mount it to a 4wheeler. Either a hitch mount or a clamp system for the rack.

Crazy Banter
Apr 1, 2001


Detective Thompson posted:

What's the site that helps you find dealers that do transfers and what they charge?

It's on Gunbroker under the For Buyer's tab:

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/DealerNetwork.aspx

emathey
May 18, 2008


Just be aware that the list is not 100% up to date, one FFL listed for my area that had super cheap transfers isn't around anymore. The person with their phone number these days has no clue when you call them.

Gewehr 43
Aug 25, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Yeah, that one was fun.

"Wait, WHO ARE YOU? And WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO?"
"Erm, nevermind ma'am. Sorry to disturb you."
*click*

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

What's the rifle that Al Pacino shoots Tom Sizemore with in Heat?

AR
Oct 26, 2005
a beautiful collision

gimpsuitjones posted:

What's the rifle that Al Pacino shoots Tom Sizemore with in Heat?

FN FNC?

vv And this is what I get for not caring enough to double-check

AR fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2010 around 16:34

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008

TFR 2011: All Brony, all the time.



edit: Damnit. That's what I get for double-checking my answer at imfdb.

gimpsuitjones posted:

What's the rifle that Al Pacino shoots Tom Sizemore with in Heat?

FNC

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

I want one.

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Hold your stomach until the end

gimpsuitjones posted:

I want one.

They're pricey and spare parts are almost nonexistent. But FA sears are "only" ~$3K, which is one reason they're expensive.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008

TFR 2011: All Brony, all the time.



gimpsuitjones posted:

I want one.
Join the club.

wilfoy
Jan 21, 2004


Sten Freak posted:

They're pricey and spare parts are almost nonexistent. But FA sears are "only" ~$3K, which is one reason they're expensive.

There are more FNC auto sears in the US than there are FNC's. FNH also refuses to support the existing FNC's that are here, so they're quicky becoming worn out and in some cases unsafe.

The ATF has also ruled that you can't use a registered FNC auto sear to convert a SCAR or Sig556 to full auto, so all those registered auto sears will just go to waste.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



AR posted:

He's got a nice range bag, and a .22 conversion kit for the 220. I know he needs some more mags for the .22 kit, but the only one I've found was $58 (for a 10-round .22 mag) which is ridiculous.

Top Gun Supply has them for $32 each which seems expensive but is basically half of what your place charges.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


wilfoy posted:

There are more FNC auto sears in the US than there are FNC's. FNH also refuses to support the existing FNC's that are here, so they're quicky becoming worn out and in some cases unsafe.

The ATF has also ruled that you can't use a registered FNC auto sear to convert a SCAR or Sig556 to full auto, so all those registered auto sears will just go to waste.

No poo poo? What's their logic on that?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008

TFR 2011: All Brony, all the time.



Cyrano4747 posted:

No poo poo? What's their logic on that?

more FA = bad

wilfoy
Jan 21, 2004


Cyrano4747 posted:

No poo poo? What's their logic on that?

Some bullshit about how using an FNC sear on anything other than an FNC is creating a new machine gun. You expected logic from the ATF?

Fremry
Nov 4, 2003


Speaking of ATF, what happened with that hampster machine gun deal?

wilfoy
Jan 21, 2004


I was reading about a guy trying to build US-made FNC's, and apparently there's almost no communication between FNH and FN-USA. When trying to get schematics and tech specs for the FNC, FNH told him to consult FN-USA since he was in America. FN-USA told him "we've never built the FNC so we don't have anything. Consult FNH."

AR
Oct 26, 2005
a beautiful collision

infrared35 posted:

Top Gun Supply has them for $32 each which seems expensive but is basically half of what your place charges.

I love you, in a completely TFR way. I already got him the ear protection but this is the perfect thing to pass off onto my sister who still hasn't gotten him anything and wouldn't care about +/- $6-7.

Now I just need to get the conversion to feed reliably for him...

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Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Hold your stomach until the end

ATF's position on conversion devices seems to follow a couple of loose rules: You cannot change from one gun "family" to another, and modification of the receiver is a no-no. This is where it gets tricky because a lot of conv devices require receiver mods to work, as does the FNC's lower. A couple years ago the ATF issued this:


"ATF has reconsidered its classification of the lower assembly of the FNC rifle as the receiver. The upper assembly of the FNC rifle is more properly classified as the receiver. The upper assembly of the FNC rifle houses the bolt and provides a connection point for the barrel. Moreover, the upper assembly is classified as the receiver on similar types of firearms, to include other FN rifles, such as the FN FAL and FN SCAR. Reclassification of the upper assembly as the receiver will also allow the continued installation of a lawfully registered sear into an FNC rifle because no modification to the receiver, which is the upper assembly, is required to properly install the sear."


Most people think they did this to legitimize the FNC auto sear installation. Who knows really.

I think the most likely way those extra FNC sears get hosts is if someone imported US parts compliant FNCs, if it possible which I have no idea.

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