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Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


Interesting about prk because I was specifically told i can't have laser surgery because my cornea is weak and bulges out.

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infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



I had LASIK in 2004 and it was mildly horrifying, but they give you Valium right before the procedure. I think my vision was somewhere around 20/1000; it was pretty bad. Afterward it's between 20/40 and 20/20, depending on which eye and what time of day it is.

I can't say I've been in any car crashes since then, but I've been in a few pretty good wrestling matches with no ill effects. Although I haven't been hit really hard in the face. Yet.

bunnielab
May 19, 2005

Ask me about Herbs

infrared35 posted:

a few pretty good wrestling matches

I bet. A man has to stay warm up there some how.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

Hope you don't mind if I just take a little rest here. Feel free to join me...

What age is it when eyesight starts to "level off"?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Internet Wizard posted:

What age is it when eyesight starts to "level off"?

Generally about the same time they put you in a pine box.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


Internet Wizard posted:

What age is it when eyesight starts to "level off"?

My vision stopped changing at about 23. Then it's just old person eye things.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

Cyrano4747 posted:

Generally about the same time they put you in a pine box.

Mahogany or go home.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

thermobollocks posted:

Mahogany or go home.

I will ride into eternity in a 55 gallon drum full of cosmolene.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


I like turtles posted:

My vision stopped changing at about 23. Then it's just old person eye things.

My vision changed significantly when I was 13 then again a year later but after that things have pretty much leveled out.

OldSquid
May 28, 2007
Flying a plane is just like riding a bike, except it's harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

Note to anyone considering LASIK/PRK/Etc., if you wear contact lenses, understand that they will actively change the shape of your eyeball (and your prescription).

I had to wear glasses for 4 weeks before I could even get the pre-exam, and in that time my prescription changed from -3.5 in both eyes to -2.75. Fairly significant, and something to keep in mind.

Frankie
Feb 22, 2006



Roundboy posted:

Interesting about prk because I was specifically told i can't have laser surgery because my cornea is weak and bulges out.

Keratoconus?

BeanTaco
Apr 14, 2011



Roundboy posted:

Interesting about prk because I was specifically told i can't have laser surgery because my cornea is weak and bulges out.

Are you sure it isn't that you're cornea is too thin? The surgery basically carves up your cornea into another lens and they need some room to play around with to do that.
Also the age at which your eyes stop changing can depend on a whole host of extra conditions, but generally 23ish at the earliest and 27ish at the latest.
In my case even if I had the surgery I would still need glasses, but at least I would be able to get glasses that let me see properly (as it is now, the disparity between my eyes is so large that I have the choice between seeing double/getting headaches or seeing fuzzy.)

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

BOAT GOT BORED
God created men, Samuel Colt made them equal.

HEY INSANE TOTORO YOU SHOULD BUY EYE SURGERY

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


No thanks, I just import my glasses from Taiwan and they're pretty bitchin. Got my pair of Pierre Balmans for $15 US.

Also I am a big baby

Chantilly Say
Apr 18, 2008

A man's got to know his limitations.

Also, death to My Little Pony.


For what it's worth, my dad works in opthalmology, has terrible vision uncorrected, and still wears glasses or contacts. Surgical corrective technology is advancing all the time, but he still feels it's not a significant advantage over corrective lenses compared to the risks and drawbacks. It's much better with the lasers compared to when they were going in there with a scalpel, but if they screw up at all your vision ends up worse than when you started and you can't go back in and fix what they broke, it's broke for good.

I expect that during my lifetime it'll get good enough to get over that; they're getting close already. It used to be that getting the old kind of surgery would screw up your night vision and ability to deal with pressure changes--they stopped giving it to SEAL candidates because their eyes would get screwy while they were underwater.

E4C85D38
Feb 7, 2010

Doesn't that thing only
hold six rounds...?


But glasses look pretty.

BeanTaco
Apr 14, 2011



Who here has experience with the norinco m305/m14 clone? Thinking of getting one down the line as a project gun. Rebarrel to .260, get a new bolt, new stock, should be tits. Is there full parts interchangeability with legit m14s and m1a1s?

^I know people who wear glasses JUST for the look and it makes me mad.

Totally TWISTED
Sep 13, 2005

Also, angels.




recon_etc posted:

But glasses look pretty.

On some women.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

BeanTaco posted:

Who here has experience with the norinco m305/m14 clone? Thinking of getting one down the line as a project gun. Rebarrel to .260, get a new bolt, new stock, should be tits. Is there full parts interchangeability with legit m14s and m1a1s?

^I know people who wear glasses JUST for the look and it makes me mad.

I have one and it is fully compatible with USGI parts, in fact some folks get them just for the receiver (it's forged instead of cast) and replace everything else with USGI bits. For less than an M1A usually too.

I haven't done much to mine other than getting the gas system unitized and putting an ultimak rail on for a scout mount scope, and it's a great shooter. Better than me, anyway!

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Note that if you're in the US they tend to sell for way more than they're worth. A lot of times it ends up being a lot easier to just get someone's beater M1A and tune that into the rifle you want.

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

BeanTaco posted:

Who here has experience with the norinco m305/m14 clone? Thinking of getting one down the line as a project gun. Rebarrel to .260, get a new bolt, new stock, should be tits. Is there full parts interchangeability with legit m14s and m1a1s?

^I know people who wear glasses JUST for the look and it makes me mad.

I had one and it was a piece of poo poo


Certainly wouldn't waste time getting it rebarreled given the limitations of the M14 design as a whole, let alone the Norincos problems specifically


Can you even get decent replacement parts for them out of the US for a start, or into NZ?

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



bunnielab posted:

I bet. A man has to stay warm up there some how.

I charge extra for oil and/or mud.

BeanTaco
Apr 14, 2011



gimpsuitjones posted:

I had one and it was a piece of poo poo


Certainly wouldn't waste time getting it rebarreled given the limitations of the M14 design as a whole, let alone the Norincos problems specifically


Can you even get decent replacement parts for them out of the US for a start, or into NZ?

Keep in mind I was thinking about this on the toilet then immediately posted it, just wanted to see opinions on whether to bother keeping thinking about it.
Guess not. Back to thinking about my cz I guess
Also just fyi cyrano, springfield m1a1s go for (from memory) 3,500 whereas the norinco can easily be had for under 600.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

BeanTaco posted:

Keep in mind I was thinking about this on the toilet then immediately posted it, just wanted to see opinions on whether to bother keeping thinking about it.
Guess not. Back to thinking about my cz I guess
Also just fyi cyrano, springfield m1a1s go for (from memory) 3,500 whereas the norinco can easily be had for under 600.

Yeah, note the "if you're in the US" part of that. Forgot that you're one of those southern hemisphere types.

Around here the Norincos are hard to get because of the import ban and tend to go for about $900, used, when you can find them, and that's generally pretty heavily used.

NIB Springfield M1As tend to go for about $1500-ish, and used ones in decent shape can be had for about what the Norinco guns go for, and are a hell of a lot easier to find to boot.

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

There'll be peace
when you are done


What the hell is the ridiculous shotgun at 2:35? I'm guessing a moss or an 870 with some spacegun plastic on it, or does somebody ship in this configuration?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxcPy1qJTU

poeticoddity
Jan 14, 2007
"How nice - to feel nothing and still get full credit for being alive." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five

Internet Wizard posted:

What age is it when eyesight starts to "level off"?

Your eyesight continuously changes throughout your life due in large part to damage to your retina (some of which is preventable, but some of which is just caused by unavoidable oxidative stress) and continual changes in the density (both optical and physical) of your crystalline lens (this is what causes cataracts). At some point, if you get thick enough cataracts, you're pretty much as low as you can go on vision, so I guess it'd "level off" a bit after you were legally blind.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



DOOMocrat posted:

What the hell is the ridiculous shotgun at 2:35? I'm guessing a moss or an 870 with some spacegun plastic on it, or does somebody ship in this configuration?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxcPy1qJTU

Mossberg 500 bullpup.

SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007



I'm 22 and I just got glasses for the first time in September, probably should have gotten them sooner. It's not that bad though, -1.25 in one eye, -1.5 in the other. Luckily I don't think I got my mom's vision which is currently -12.5 (legally blind without glasses).

Only issue I've had shooting is that focusing on the front sight is more difficult but shooting with both eyes open is easier. The best part is the red dot on my AR is much more clear now and shooting stuff further off is obviously a lot easier. The 50yrd berm at my range seems a lot closer now.

Also don't go to Lens Crafters. My mom and I got glasses at the same time and it took almost two months to get her glasses and they never told her what the problem was when she asked about it. When she finally got them they weren't the frames she picked out.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


SFH1989 posted:

I'm 22 and I just got glasses for the first time in September, probably should have gotten them sooner. It's not that bad though, -1.25 in one eye, -1.5 in the other. Luckily I don't think I got my mom's vision which is currently -12.5 (legally blind without glasses).
Nobody makes non-goggle ballistic-rated safety glasses stronger than -11.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

I WANT A PONY TOO


poeticoddity posted:

I don't blame you. The tissue removed during the procedures to correct vision lead to structural weak points. Since the interior of your eye is about 2ATM, you run an increased risk of your eye exploding when you strain yourself.

(You learn some horrifying poo poo if you go to graduate school to study vision.)



Whether this is true or not, the prospect of it happening is horrifying.

Now that the subject has come up though, I've though about it today...I only need one eye done, so it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience.

Where does everyone order their rx safety glasses from? I'm trying to keep the cost as low as possible, since my work will reimburse a large chunk...free prescription shooting glasses would be the best prescription shooting glasses.

lilspooky
Mar 21, 2006


Cyrano4747 posted:

I will ride into eternity in a 55 gallon drum full of cosmolene.

In the year 2452 Earth is locked in a battle for survival against a vicious alien race. Their only weakness........milsurp! Only one man remembers how the ancient technology functions. Awakened from his Cosmosleep he's now ready to take the fight to the invaders! Cyrano4747 coming to theaters this summer!

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Oh well looky what what we got ourselves over here.

Yeah but the movie would be over by the time they get done melting all the cosmo out of his pores with a hairdryer.

DakianDelomast
Mar 5, 2003


recon_etc posted:

But glasses look pretty.

Studies have shown I look objectively 3 times uglier without glasses on my face. If you have a certain set of facial features a good set of glasses will really help you out.

poeticoddity
Jan 14, 2007
"How nice - to feel nothing and still get full credit for being alive." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five

IuniusBrutus posted:



Whether this is true or not, the prospect of it happening is horrifying.

Now that the subject has come up though, I've though about it today...I only need one eye done, so it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience.

Where does everyone order their rx safety glasses from? I'm trying to keep the cost as low as possible, since my work will reimburse a large chunk...free prescription shooting glasses would be the best prescription shooting glasses.

I picked up a pair of safety goggles at the chemistry supply shop of my university which are designed for lab work, but worked quite well for shooting over the weekend (definitely stopped some brass from hitting my glasses). They fit right over my glasses, and I believe they were about eight bucks. The arms a bit thinner than most of the safety glasses I've seen that are intended for shooters, but that actually makes them easier to wear with ear protection, as they have a little bit of flex to them.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

lilspooky posted:

In the year 2452 Earth is locked in a battle for survival against a vicious alien race. Their only weakness........milsurp! Only one man remembers how the ancient technology functions. Awakened from his Cosmosleep he's now ready to take the fight to the invaders! Cyrano4747 coming to theaters this summer!

quote:

YOU KEEP THAT SIXTY GRIT THE gently caress AWAY FROM THE WOOD

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

lilspooky posted:

In the year 2452 Earth is locked in a battle for survival against a vicious alien race. Their only weakness........milsurp! Only one man remembers how the ancient technology functions. Awakened from his Cosmosleep he's now ready to take the fight to the invaders! Cyrano4747 coming to theaters this summer!

The only problem is the star-wars style scroll of text at the beginning to fill in the backstory goes on for 3 hours straight.

Flikken
Oct 22, 2009

I say Old Chum, would you like to go 4 and 12 with me?


priznat posted:

The only problem is the star-wars style scroll of text at the beginning to fill in the backstory goes on for 3 hours straight.

And if you Wordle it, the biggest word is gently caress

Ninja Rope
Oct 22, 2005

Wee.


IuniusBrutus posted:

Where does everyone order their rx safety glasses from?

I've purchased rx Wiley's through Optics Planet and I'm satisfied.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


poeticoddity posted:

I picked up a pair of safety goggles at the chemistry supply shop of my university which are designed for lab work, but worked quite well for shooting over the weekend (definitely stopped some brass from hitting my glasses). They fit right over my glasses, and I believe they were about eight bucks. The arms a bit thinner than most of the safety glasses I've seen that are intended for shooters, but that actually makes them easier to wear with ear protection, as they have a little bit of flex to them.
These are probably good for keeping gas out of your eyes but I'm not sure they're rated for any kind of impact, which is a genuine concern when shooting.

I'm not one to talk since I make do with impact-rated prescription glasses that will stop shrapnel but don't shield the sides of my eyes.

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poeticoddity
Jan 14, 2007
"How nice - to feel nothing and still get full credit for being alive." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr. - Slaughterhouse Five

Pitch posted:

These are probably good for keeping gas out of your eyes but I'm not sure they're rated for any kind of impact, which is a genuine concern when shooting.

I'm not one to talk since I make do with impact-rated prescription glasses that will stop shrapnel but don't shield the sides of my eyes.

The ones I've got won't keep gas out of your eyes, but I think they're polycarbonate that's designed to be able to handle popping glassware, and the UV filtering is a bonus if I ever end up using them outdoors. I think the ones on this page are the exact same ones I've got.

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