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walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Ride the rainbow


New idea: rifled barrel insert a la the cool .22 conversion kits for WASRs, constricting the bore down to .20 or so. Then get some dies, neck new-manufacture x54R brass down to .20 and develop an awesome wildcat load.

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Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

Did you see Regis this morning?

walrusman posted:

New idea: rifled barrel insert a la the cool .22 conversion kits for WASRs, constricting the bore down to .20 or so. Then get some dies, neck new-manufacture x54R brass down to .20 and develop an awesome wildcat load.

He actually had this exact idea for another Mosin that he has (a lovely monte carlo stocked M44), only he wanted to neck down to a .17

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

since we're talking
about primaries


walrusman posted:

New idea: rifled barrel insert a la the cool .22 conversion kits for WASRs, constricting the bore down to .20 or so. Then get some dies, neck new-manufacture x54R brass down to .20 and develop an awesome wildcat load.

4.3x54r

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

walrusman posted:

New idea: rifled barrel insert a la the cool .22 conversion kits for WASRs, constricting the bore down to .20 or so. Then get some dies, neck new-manufacture x54R brass down to .20 and develop an awesome wildcat load.

I was talking to a neighbor who was telling me about the .243 Win Weatherby he had made in the 60's. He said he used to get surplus 7.62 nato, pop the bullet out, neck it down, put a .243 in there and shoot those.

He told me about all sorts of awesome guns like that.

When I asked him if he still had the Weatherby he said he had sold all his guns for basically nothing, because everyone thought they were going to confiscate all the guns after JFK was shot.

Apparently the gun stores (in California at least) were basically buying anything anyone panicked enough would bring them for pennies on the dollar.

gg
Jul 3, 2003



On the topic of mosin sniper rifles, how stupid would it be to buy a Finnish M39, a turned down bolt, and a non-destructive scope mount and use it for long distance shooting? It seems pretty cheap, accurate and should be non-destructive right?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

gg posted:

On the topic of mosin sniper rifles, how stupid would it be to buy a Finnish M39, a turned down bolt, and a non-destructive scope mount and use it for long distance shooting? It seems pretty cheap, accurate and should be non-destructive right?

Define "long distance."

Yeah, assuming you get a new bolt (which would need to be headspaced) and a drop-in mount, you won't be loving the rifle up. That said, I hope you like long eye relief scopes (I do, but some people hate them) and you need to understand that it still will be on the lower ranges of what a good commercial rifle will do.

I love milsurp. To say that it's my "thing" is a bit of an understatement. But even I own a new production AR designed for target shooting for when I want to try to put little holes close to each other out around 200-300 yards.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

I suspect I am still
terribly pleased.

gg posted:

On the topic of mosin sniper rifles, how stupid would it be to buy a Finnish M39, a turned down bolt, and a non-destructive scope mount and use it for long distance shooting? It seems pretty cheap, accurate and should be non-destructive right?

My finn and my boss's finn mosin are both remarkably accurate. I couldn't be happier with mine.

However, who knows what kind of unexpected condition related issues you might have with accuracy. Also, cheep to shoot kind of goes out the door when you realize that the piles of cheap ammo aren't exactly the best for consistency in long distance shooting.

My boss was having good luck with his, but only with good ammo or ammo he loaded himself. All of the surplus stuff turned out to be pretty bad for him. So in the end, it wasn't really much cheaper then a new Remington 700 in .308

gg
Jul 3, 2003



I would only want it to shoot at 300 yards at the most. I don't plan on shooting professionally or anything. Perhaps a K31 would be better for this?

Harry in Rio
Oct 18, 2004
Ask me about Rainy Day Woman brand anus bleach (pm me)

spankmeister posted:




And that stripper clip haha omg

Bubba 2: Ultimate Bubba Electric Boogaloo.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

gg posted:

I would only want it to shoot at 300 yards at the most. I don't plan on shooting professionally or anything. Perhaps a K31 would be better for this?

Three huge advantages to using a K31 for this:

1) better accuracy out of the box. Finn M39s are great guns, but K31s are simply more accurate. It's the difference between a 1 MOA rifle and a 1.5 MOA rifle, on average.

2) don't need to turn down the bolt. Use all the original gear and keep it cheaper.

3) surplus GP11 is out there and it's match grade. That stuff comes to about $.50/rd which is cheaper than any new production high quality 7.62x54r you're going to find. It's also a pretty good round for loading yourself if you want to get into that.

Harry in Rio
Oct 18, 2004
Ask me about Rainy Day Woman brand anus bleach (pm me)

Cyrano4747 posted:

I don't have much knowledge of 1911 part values, but I will say they're fairly valuable. There are a LOT of decent USGI 1911 frames out there with slides that were hosed up back when surplus 1911s were everyone's favorite platform for tinkering with and building race guns. I've never priced them myself, but I know they're not cheap.

Actual USGI barrels with good rifling wouldn't be cheap either.

We're not talking megabucks here, but we're certainly not talking about pocket change either.

Thanks Cyrano. I called the fella back up, he said that he knew all that poo poo was in there. Amazes me. Looks like I'm going to have some Jamesons money.

gg
Jul 3, 2003



So a K31 wouldn't be a bad start for me for long distance shooting? I was playing with the idea of getting a Remington 700 but that would probably be like $1000 after getting a scope and a non-lovely stock. I just realized this question is probably better for the long distance shooting thread.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

gg posted:

So a K31 wouldn't be a bad start for me for long distance shooting? I was playing with the idea of getting a Remington 700 but that would probably be like $1000 after getting a scope and a non-lovely stock. I just realized this question is probably better for the long distance shooting thread.

If you're talking actual long distance shooting, yeah, it would still be poo poo.

Not TOTAL poo poo, and they certainly hold their own out at 300 yards or so, but compared to a new Rem700? Yeah. . .

Figure on this if you go the K31 route:

Rifle ~$250
Scope mount ~$75

Throw on top of that the glass you put on. Remember - lovely glass makes for lovely shooting, so you're going to be into it there for the tune of at least a couple hundred bucks, on up to whatever.

You're probably into the K31 to the tune of $800 or so anyways if you go that route (I'm ballparking a $400-500 scope), and when it's all said and done it's a far more limited platform for bedding or otherwise improving and customizing than a Rem700 or any other new produced bolt gun out there.

Harry in Rio
Oct 18, 2004
Ask me about Rainy Day Woman brand anus bleach (pm me)

This box is endless. Check out this poo poo. Full box of fun, metal piercing (I think the Brady Bunch would have aneurysm if this was still made) .357 Mag.



And now a mystery receiver. Going to need help IDing this one. It's a lever action top ejector of some type, no markings, serial numbers, anything.









I appreciate any help. And in my state, it's legal to transfer ownership of a firearm to another resident of the state without paperwork as long as you know they're not on illegal drugs, an ex-con, a fugitive from justice or insane.

Well, one out of four isn't bad.

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008


MrKatharsis posted:

Not that I support or endorse this project in any way, but he can probably get a re-arsenaled 91/30 sniper (with a non-sniper stock and filled-in scope holes) for $10 more than a regular crappyr Mosin. I know the Ocala Armory in Florida imported a ton of them.

All of my research suggests that getting an original sniper mosin would result in you getting a shot out barrel unless you were very very lucky.

Otherwise you are getting a sniper that went through a rearsenal process and lost the stock, etc from its original configuration, making it hardly the shooter it once was.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Harry in Rio posted:

And now a mystery receiver. Going to need help IDing this one. It's a lever action top ejector of some type, no markings, serial numbers, anything.

You've probably already narrowed it down, but it seems to be a single shot receiver even if it is a lever action, and it is probably a .22.

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

FURRED STREET,
BITCHES!




infrared35 posted:

You've probably already narrowed it down, but it seems to be a single shot receiver even if it is a lever action, and it is probably a .22.

If it's a single-shot lever action, more than likely it's an Ithaca M49.





Holes seem to match up...

BaronW
Apr 16, 2007

Why yes, I HAVE seen uhaul.jpg

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

4.3x54r

I prefer .17RM (relativistic magnum)

Harry in Rio
Oct 18, 2004
Ask me about Rainy Day Woman brand anus bleach (pm me)

infrared35 posted:

You've probably already narrowed it down, but it seems to be a single shot receiver even if it is a lever action, and it is probably a .22.

Christ, I gave one of those away years ago, it's essentially a Martini-Peabody action.

You guys rule.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008

TFR 2011: All Brony, all the time.



BaronW posted:

I prefer .17RM (relativistic magnum)

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

WWTFD


Question: What is SOCOM's reasoning for dropping the SCAR?

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


Fifty Three posted:

Question: What is SOCOM's reasoning for dropping the SCAR?

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Be polite. Be professional. But be prepared to PARTAYYY!

Harry in Rio posted:

I fall back asswards into some crazy stuff. I went down to replace windows for a job yesterday and after I get paid, the old guy asked me if I was into guns.

So he just hands me a box, I kind of casually look through it and it's pretty much old M1 carbine mags, 1952 M1 Carbine ammo, cans of 2400 and Bullseye. He told me to just take it. So I did.

Then there's this.






And five High-Standard 1911 barrels, HS on one side, P on the other. No other markings on the barrels whatsoever. Some minor surface rust. The rifling is crisp in all.

Whats the value of this these days? The last patent date on the slide in Aug 19, 1913. The photos make things look a bit rougher than they are. I'm considering bringing these back as I'm not sure he knew they were in there.

hahahaha

Didn't you also get paid in a gun for the last job you did raising goats or some poo poo like that?

Harry in Rio
Oct 18, 2004
Ask me about Rainy Day Woman brand anus bleach (pm me)

Bored As gently caress posted:

hahahaha

Didn't you also get paid in a gun for the last job you did hoof trimming or some poo poo like that?

This was more of a bonus than getting paid, but yah, I keep getting guns and shooting related stuff out of the blue for odd jobs. I hope you other fellas have the same problem.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


Harry in Rio posted:

This was more of a bonus than getting paid, but yah, I keep getting guns and shooting related stuff out of the blue for odd jobs. I hope you other fellas have the same problem.

System admins/software engineers rarely get paid in guns

E4C85D38
Feb 7, 2010

Doesn't that thing only
hold six rounds...?


I like turtles posted:

System admins/software engineers rarely get paid in guns

I would pay money to meet the IT worker who gets paid in firearms.

He and/or his workplace would probably terrify me, though. They probably need the shotguns to fend off the rack squirrels, tapevault bears, and possibly irate end users.

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

recon_etc posted:

I would pay money to meet the IT worker who gets paid in firearms.

He and/or his workplace would probably terrify me, though. They probably need the shotguns to fend off the rack squirrels, tapevault bears, and possibly irate end users.

Bear mace for the bears. Shotgun for the users.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


I like turtles posted:

System admins/software engineers rarely get paid in guns
John Ross's website is administrated by a guy who demands payment in firearms or precious metal bullion.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


The fauna in the racks isn't a big problem, we just set off the halon every six months.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


I like turtles posted:

System admins/software engineers rarely get paid in guns



I like turtles posted:

The fauna in the racks isn't a big problem, we just set off the halon every six months.



Yeah but the cleanup is a bitch. I don't like the janitor part of computer janitor.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

"Wouldn't want to see an angry turtle with a gun, would ya? "

Well...


That's what the student workers are for

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


I like turtles posted:

That's what the student workers are for

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

WWTFD


Pitch posted:


huh

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

I was like Oatmeal, are you CRAZY?!?

Pitch posted:

John Ross's website is administrated by a guy who demands payment in firearms or precious metal bullion.

I've gotten paid in guns, shooting supplies, and training for websites I have done.

LavistaSays
Dec 25, 2005



Fifty Three posted:

Question: What is SOCOM's reasoning for dropping the SCAR?

SOCOM pretty much realized that even though the SCAR-L is a really nice weapon, it doesn't really provide for more capability then a well taken care of M4A1 MWS that the big army will gladly supply them, freeing up more of SOCOM's budget for other gadgets. However the official statement from SOCOM only specifies the MK16 SCAR-L, not the program as a whole.

There is a new "Common-receiver" SCAR-H that pretty much supercedes the MK16 as you can run it in 7.62 NATO, 5.56, (and therefore 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel... X39, whatever moon caliber the army invents to replace 5.56 etc), and if SOCOM wants to buy these in the future, it would make sense to stop buying SCAR-L's now and just use almost-free M4's from the army until then.

Totally TWISTED
Sep 13, 2005

Also, angels.




Tell me why a Swedish (or whoever in Europe) company doesn't come to America and build us cheap suppressors? I understand supply/demand but holy gently caress your volume would be so high if you were selling suppressors almost as cheap as the tax stamp needed to own one. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

blackknight5k
Oct 22, 2008


Is there anything banning the use of 3 sided knives in warfare? Most of the internet says the Geneva convention bans it, but we all know that if someone says the geneva convention bans something then it's BS...

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

The Jets and the Sharks have an unwritten code of conduct preventing them from using 3 sided knives. No one else actually fights large scale knife battles anymore.

blackknight5k
Oct 22, 2008


That's a good one, I just want to go tell someone who's claiming this that they are wrong.

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

In cases like that I would say the onus is on them to actually prove the dumb poo poo they are saying is correct. Or just mention that the geneva convention is for treatment of victims of war (civilians, POWs etc) and has nothing to do with the actual weaponry used.

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