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Wa11y
Jul 23, 2002

Did I say "cookies?" I meant, "Fire in your face!"

For shipping ammo through UPS, can I still use the ORM-D cartridges label, or so I have to use the new Ground ltd qty labels? If I need the new label, does someone have a good printable version of it, hopefully small enough to fit on a 6" square box?

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Iron Tusk
Jun 12, 2012

J4G Extraordinaire

I've shipped a lot of ammo in the last few months. I just write ORM-D on all sides with a sharpie. The new labels aren't until next year I don't think.

Totally TWISTED
Sep 13, 2005

Also, angels.




Wa11y posted:

For shipping ammo through UPS, can I still use the ORM-D cartridges label, or so I have to use the new Ground ltd qty labels? If I need the new label, does someone have a good printable version of it, hopefully small enough to fit on a 6" square box?

Here: http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirear...pping-Ammo.html

And the PDF dude created in that thread: http://www.type03.net/ammo/limitedquantity.pdf

hangedman
Dec 20, 2003

Fish out of water

Iron Tusk posted:

I've shipped a lot of ammo in the last few months. I just write ORM-D on all sides with a sharpie. The new labels aren't until next year I don't think.

Dunno: just had the last box of .22 ammo I ordered show up about a week ago with the white and black square marking in lieu of the ORM-D markings.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

My Drama Poni



That sounds like a blast to gently caress around with to make first person videos, and for a firearms accessory/range toy, less than $75 bucks is a pretty good price.

Now, I'm thinking about using it to review if I'm doing weird stuff around my trigger pull.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Independence posted:

Just fill out the affidavit on the page you linked, have it notarized and send it in.

You'll get that form back before you see a 77R back from the State Police.

That's exactly what I did. I'm still waiting on the approval.


For the C&R? Just fill out the form, write the check, and send it in. Send a copy of the application to the CLEO, so you can check that box off. When you get the FFL, DO NOT SIGN IT. I did, and I had to send in $2 for a new copy. Makes copies and sign them as you need them.

gfanikf
Jun 23, 2012



Mad Dragon posted:

That's exactly what I did. I'm still waiting on the approval.


For the C&R? Just fill out the form, write the check, and send it in. Send a copy of the application to the CLEO, so you can check that box off. When you get the FFL, DO NOT SIGN IT. I did, and I had to send in $2 for a new copy. Makes copies and sign them as you need them.

Best thing is scan and print a copy unsigned and then sign and scan the copy and store them both in digital form. It's been useful in processing deals while on the road.

Iron Tusk
Jun 12, 2012

J4G Extraordinaire

hangedman posted:

Dunno: just had the last box of .22 ammo I ordered show up about a week ago with the white and black square marking in lieu of the ORM-D markings.

I think the moral of the story is that they don't really care, as long as it's marked to go ground only.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012


Does anyone know where I might be able to buy one of those wooden crates 7.62x54R spam cans come packaged in?

I want the crate for a photography project, but have no need (or budget) for 880 rounds of 54R.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

MRC48B posted:

Does anyone know where I might be able to buy one of those wooden crates 7.62x54R spam cans come packaged in?

I want the crate for a photography project, but have no need (or budget) for 880 rounds of 54R.

You might want to just try phoning AIM, Classic Arms, etc. I imagine they probably throw tons of them away. No promises, but I"d be fairly surprised if you couldn't find someone willing to sell you one for a really nominal price plus shipping.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011



SGAMMO sometimes just sells those.

king of the bongo
Apr 26, 2008

If you're brown, GET DOWN!


MRC48B posted:

Does anyone know where I might be able to buy one of those wooden crates 7.62x54R spam cans come packaged in?

I want the crate for a photography project, but have no need (or budget) for 880 rounds of 54R.

Are you in philadelphia? If not, try aimsurplus though https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...&type=1&theater

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012


No, Illinois/Wisconsin. Guess I'll make some phone calls to surplus and ammo shops. Thank you for the replies.

Agrocrag
Oct 22, 2004

True love at last

Kommienzuspadt posted:


Also, what do you mean new home defense gun? What do you have now?


I own an ar15, and a 1911 but I dont want to/can't mount a light on them. I already own a wingmaster but its at my cabin as my my bear gun. Basically just want an excuse to get another gun. I'm totally on the fence between a glock 19 or an 870. I will be mounting a light on them.

janklow
Sep 28, 2001

whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.


Stealthgerbil posted:

Well in Maryland if you want to purchase more then one regulated firearm in a 30 day period. If the wait time was still only two weeks it wouldn't be a big deal but with it being close to 2 months, the chances of me getting both an AR and an AK before Oct 1st is looking pretty slim. If you are a registered collector though you can get as many as you want.
not good reason NOT to get it - did it some years back, not sure why anyone WOULDN'T - but you could presumably work around the 1-every-30-days limit in other (legal) ways as well.

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

This bear is tops blooby


Agrocrag posted:

I own an ar15, and a 1911 but I dont want to/can't mount a light on them. I already own a wingmaster but its at my cabin as my my bear gun. Basically just want an excuse to get another gun. I'm totally on the fence between a glock 19 or an 870. I will be mounting a light on them.

Between the two i would vote for the glock 19, an 870 would be good too.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001



Hello, TFR.

I now have in my possession a Remington 870. This could be my first firearm. I was hoping it would be good for home defense but I'll be honest and state that my apartment is pretty small. This long weapon isn't exactly suited to corners. It could be modded?

The owner is willing to sell it to me for $225.oo. I'm inclined to buy it. Maybe I could mod it a little for the size of my small apartment. Even if not, I do like the shotgun. I understand the action now and it feels tight and strong.

I uploaded a bunch of pics to imgur but I don't quite get how to use it yet, so here is the album (I hope)

http://imgur.com/a/4JOlF

Would you pay $225 for this Remington 870 based on these pictures? If you can see these pictures? Is there anything else you would need to know before making the commitment?

Newbie looking for help.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


Replacing the barrel is very easy, but new ones aren't cheap. Count on a little over $100 for that. Now, $225 is a pretty good price for an 870 Express that looks like it's in good shape, but for $350 you could really be looking at a brand-new one with a shorter barrel.

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

This bear is tops blooby


Pitch posted:

Replacing the barrel is very easy, but new ones aren't cheap. Count on a little over $100 for that. Now, $225 is a pretty good price for an 870 Express that looks like it's in good shape, but for $350 you could really be looking at a brand-new one with a shorter barrel.

this is essentially correct. If you want a gun for protection inside your apartment, that gun in question will be far too long,and the 18" barrel that you'll need to make it reasonable for HD will be at least 100 dollars, like this guy :

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/24...ight-parkerized

You are better off looking in a gun shop for a used mossberg 500 if you are on a budget.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

American planes, full of holes and wounded men, took off backwards from an airfield in England. Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards, sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen. They did the same for wrecked American bombers on the ground.

Not to mention that you can find a used Wingmaster for $250 without looking too hard and end up with a MUCH nicer firearm to boot.

edit: seriously, we are a nation awash in relatively inexpensive, used Wingmasters. How they are able to keep selling expresses is beyond me.

Also you can see the start of rust on that barrel in one of the pics. God drat they must be really going full retard with how lovely the park is getting these days.

hagie
Apr 5, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied

Are the Wingmasters and the 870 express essentially the same shotgun, Wingmasters being held to higher standard of parts an manufacturing (not plastic trigger groups, higher QC, some fit & finish differences) ? Are they compatible with parts? Like can a magpul stock be put on a Wingmaster, just as an example?

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

I was like Oatmeal, are you CRAZY?!?

hagie posted:

Are the Wingmasters and the 870 express essentially the same shotgun, Wingmasters being held to higher standard of parts an manufacturing (not plastic trigger groups, higher QC, some fit & finish differences) ? Are they compatible with parts? Like can a magpul stock be put on a Wingmaster, just as an example?

Correct. The only thing you might run into is that older 870s used a different mag tube cap, so newer mag tube caps/extensions might work themselves loose as you fire.

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Hold your stomach until the end

Dr. Faustus posted:

Hello, TFR.

I now have in my possession a Remington 870. This could be my first firearm. I was hoping it would be good for home defense but I'll be honest and state that my apartment is pretty small. This long weapon isn't exactly suited to corners. It could be modded?

The owner is willing to sell it to me for $225.oo. I'm inclined to buy it. Maybe I could mod it a little for the size of my small apartment. Even if not, I do like the shotgun. I understand the action now and it feels tight and strong.

I uploaded a bunch of pics to imgur but I don't quite get how to use it yet, so here is the album (I hope)

http://imgur.com/a/4JOlF

Would you pay $225 for this Remington 870 based on these pictures? If you can see these pictures? Is there anything else you would need to know before making the commitment?

Newbie looking for help.
Yep! For a $5 hack saw though with that rib it may not look pretty when you're done.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3539354

BadgerMan45
Dec 30, 2009


Cyrano4747 posted:

Also you can see the start of rust on that barrel in one of the pics. God drat they must be really going full retard with how lovely the park is getting these days.

If it was park it would at least do a better job than the "matte bluing" they do on the expresses now. Truly awful.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Dr. Faustus posted:

Would you pay $225 for this Remington 870 based on these pictures? If you can see these pictures? Is there anything else you would need to know before making the commitment?

Newbie looking for help.

Definitely. That's got a nice set of laminated wood on it, and a supermag barrel. Any idea if it's got a supermag receiver? Having the ability to fire 3.5" shells isn't really important but it is fun occasionally, and it does increase the gun's value a little.

But as said before, putting a shorter barrel on is easy to do. I don't know off the top of my head if a supermag receiver will take "normal" 870 barrels, but judging by what little I can see in the pictures it looks like it will.

As noted, if a home defense gun is your primary goal it might make sense to look for a police surplus Wingmaster and be prepared to jump on one if they show up for less than $300 again. But at $225 that Express is still a solid gun for the price. If you don't plan on going turkey hunting or doing serious skeet shooting, you could always sell the existing barrel to help cover the cost of a shorter one.

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

e: I got mad confused. LAPolicegear.com: Will they steal my money and not deliver my multicamshit?

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Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010


Cyrano4747 posted:

Not to mention that you can find a used Wingmaster for $250 without looking too hard and end up with a MUCH nicer firearm to boot.

edit: seriously, we are a nation awash in relatively inexpensive, used Wingmasters. How they are able to keep selling expresses is beyond me.

Also you can see the start of rust on that barrel in one of the pics. God drat they must be really going full retard with how lovely the park is getting these days.

I have a 10-month-old Express that has rust on the outside of the receiver that showed up within 3 months of me buying it. The finish really is amazingly awful.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



gimpsuitjones posted:

e: I got mad confused. LAPolicegear.com: Will they steal my money and not deliver my multicamshit?

Maybe.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

She was as an angel;
Pure as righteous destruction. She laid low the twisted and lifted the hearts of the righteous.
Faith Unfailing...


I'm going to assume Chicago/Illinois laws trump the Gun Control Act of 68' that lets an individual build their own firearm provided its for their personal use and not for resale?

Alaan
May 24, 2005

There's no need for words

I'm pretty sure IL itself has nothing to say on the subject. Chicago might, and I'd hit up the Illinois thread for that half of the question.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001



I want to thank all of you for the informed and wise advice.
I've decided to give the gun back to the owner.

I really can see that barrel being way too long for my intended purpose, and if a replacement puts me in "new Mossberg" territory, then I want the new Mossberg 500.

I really do like this shotgun, but after looking at your modded barrels (something I am not prepared to attempt) it's a no-brainer.

You guys are the best. I just lurk here but I love wasting hours in the picture thread. I'll come back when the girlfriend and I decide to go through with the CCW course and I'm looking for a pistol. In other words, next year.

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


infrared35 posted:

Definitely. That's got a nice set of laminated wood on it, and a supermag barrel. Any idea if it's got a supermag receiver? Having the ability to fire 3.5" shells isn't really important but it is fun occasionally, and it does increase the gun's value a little.
It doesn't. Express Supermags are marked in giant letters on the receiver.

EmptyNoggin
Apr 24, 2012
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So I have the opportunity to buy either a Chinese or a Russian SKS, does anyone know if one is superior to the other? Thanks.

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

This bear is tops blooby


EmptyNoggin posted:

So I have the opportunity to buy either a Chinese or a Russian SKS, does anyone know if one is superior to the other? Thanks.

The russian is probably better. The chinese SKS my roommate had kinda sucked. What do you want the SKS for? They aren't super awesome rifles, IMO

Greengarden
Nov 10, 2009


EmptyNoggin posted:

So I have the opportunity to buy either a Chinese or a Russian SKS, does anyone know if one is superior to the other? Thanks.

I've had both - the Russian is better (and worth more). I probably wouldn't buy an SKS at current market prices, though.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof




So what are people's experiences with CZ rifles, both in general and with the CZ452 FS in .22lr? I finally got my FOID card and can now think about buying more guns.

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...

They're a decent value rifle. Not super amazing quality but they're also reasonably priced and nice enough and make things that no-one else does like full stock rifles

NovemberMike
Dec 28, 2008


gimpsuitjones posted:

They're a decent value rifle. Not super amazing quality but they're also reasonably priced and nice enough and make things that no-one else does like full stock rifles

http://www.sako.fi/sako85models.php?bavarian_carbine

Ahem.

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gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...


Yeah and Steyr Mannlicher do too, and both nicer made than CZ actually, but like 2-3x the cost

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