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Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Minto Took posted:

The scope is right out of the box, so that's good to know.
Use the cheap ammo to get the reticle roughly lined up at 25 yards - focus on getting the windage centered; don't worry too much about elevation since it'll be different at longer range anyway. Then use the good stuff to fine-tune at 100.

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Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


infrared35 posted:

Okay. NIB (and in stock locally) S&W 642 with lawyer lock for $450 plus tax or NIB (but ordered from a distributor) no-lock 642 for $440 plus tax? Seems like a no-brainer to go for the no-lock gun, but for ten dollars more I can have the other one TONIGHT.

And I will be SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES




Pre-lock all the way.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Can it be fired with a massive erection?



Sgt. Shaved Balls posted:

NOW NOW, don't fuel my growing villainous ego. I don't even have orange jumpsuits and mp5ks ordered.

I'm down with your cult or army of whatever so long as our logo is your awesome ink.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.


Uncle Caveman posted:

Yeah, but what are you gonna do about it? You can't even own a real gun.



Guy with the 870 was a Brit visiting with someone at the range during a VA/DC meet last year, he got a kick out of trying all our stuff. We usually do some informal clay shooting, turns out he'd been a trap shooter for years and absolutely destroyed all of us.

Tell me more about that barrel on the 870.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



His Divine Shadow posted:

Tell me more about that barrel on the 870.
This old thing?



It's the original barrel, but it's marked Full so I'm not sure if the Herter's poly-choke is original from the factory.

It spends most of its time wearing a newer slug barrel, as well as some modern Police walnut furniture since I'm worried about cracking that original corncob.

Uncle Caveman fucked around with this message at Jun 18, 2010 around 13:05

iioshius
Apr 22, 2005



What's the difference between the rails on a Glock pistol and a standard Picatinny rail?

gauss
Feb 9, 2001



I got no eyes for non-military rifles, and someone just asked for a rifle ID. What is this?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


gauss posted:

I got no eyes for non-military rifles, and someone just asked for a rifle ID. What is this?



Looks kind of like a Rem 700.

It's based on the Mauser 98 action whatever it is. NOt that that's much of a help, half of the commercial bolt actions made after 1898 were based on that basic action.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



The bolt is all wrong for a Rem700, looks more like an older Weatherby Mark V to me.

http://www.weatherby.com/_images/pr...rkv_sporter.jpg

e: I say older because of the white contrast stripes and the pistol grip endcap; the floorplate catch looks different as well.

Uncle Caveman fucked around with this message at Jun 18, 2010 around 16:15

Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Uncle Caveman posted:

The bolt is all wrong for a Rem700, looks more like a Weatherby Mk.V to me.

http://www.weatherby.com/_images/pr...rkv_sporter.jpg

I am going Weatherby as well.

gauss
Feb 9, 2001



Yeah the Weatherby Mk. V looks closest to me, thanks guys.

Anjow
Aug 14, 2006



What is the mechanism by which dry-firing an airgun can damage it?

Black Stormy
Apr 1, 2003



Anjow posted:

What is the mechanism by which dry-firing an airgun can damage it?

No resistance causes the piston to slam into whatever stops it. Or something.

Gray Stormy
Dec 19, 2006



Somebody take these 300 Weatherby rounds!

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.


Uncle Caveman posted:

This old thing?



It's the original barrel, but it's marked Full so I'm not sure if the Herter's poly-choke is original from the factory.

It spends most of its time wearing a newer slug barrel, as well as some modern Police walnut furniture since I'm worried about cracking that original corncob.



That "corncob" foregrip is awesome. I am so used to seeing a certain type of forestocks on 870s I didn't ID it as one first due to it.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


His Divine Shadow posted:

That "corncob" foregrip is awesome. I am so used to seeing a certain type of forestocks on 870s I didn't ID it as one first due to it.

Anyone know when they phased those out?

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



In addition to the unusual furniture, that particular gun (formerly belonging to televiper) has a very low serial number and no Wingmaster marking (just "Model 870"), which makes me think it's a very early example. I need to call Remington and see if they can positively date it.

e: This ad from 1955 makes it look like an 870AP Standard Grade. Mine is a non-magnum model, so it could have been made in 1950:



By 1959, the Standard Grade looks like it had the longer sporter forend:



(data from here: http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/journals/870/?na=5 )

Uncle Caveman fucked around with this message at Jun 18, 2010 around 18:18

Jadz
Jan 8, 2004

Stuck in the middle with you.

In the old thread, I asked you guys about reliable places to get good deals on some 7.62x54r for my Mosin, and was given several websites. I just ordered 100 rounds of Bulgarian steel core for a grand total of $32 shipped. Considering the only local shop in my area that even has any 54r ("You're looking for 7.62 by 54 Russian, eh?" "Er, no, that's not what that...nevermind." ) sells it at $15/20rds, I think I just got a pretty drat good deal.

So just wanted to say thanks again, guys. My summer just got a lot less expensive

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004

I've seen the future, and it has hooves.

I wish there was aftermarket furniture like that. I really like the look of it, but can't find it for anything other than a Mossberg, and even then it's plastic/polymer.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Choate and John Masen make old-style synthetic 870 forends, but I have no idea as to their quality.

The wood corncob looks great, but there really isn't much material there - mine has a hairline crack, hence my swapping for a newer one. I can see why the design was updated to the beefier style.

Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

Will a .30 boresnake work well in a 6.5mm bore, or am I gonna get it stuck?

e: it looks like "no, no it won't work well" is the answer

Alain Perdrix fucked around with this message at Jun 18, 2010 around 19:43

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!


Buck Mark Contour 7.25 URX for $450. Brick and mortar store, so sales tax. Probably have to wait a week or two for it to come in. Worth tit?

Pitch
Jun 16, 2005

It is a truth universally
acknowledged that an
oniichan in possession
of good fortune must be
in want of an imouto.


Alain Perdrix posted:

Will a .30 boresnake work well in a 6.5mm bore, or am I gonna get it stuck?
I wouldn't try it. They're pretty snug at best.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


Alain Perdrix posted:

Will a .30 boresnake work well in a 6.5mm bore, or am I gonna get it stuck?

A .30 is way too thick for a 6.5mm bore. The very smallest I'd go with a .30 snake would be 7mm \, and even that's going to be really tight.

For a 6.5mm you're probably better off using a 5.56/.22 boresnake if your'e sticking to the super-common calibers. It'll be a bit loose and sloppy, but it should do a passable job of getting the worst of the crud off.

Better yet, Buy an actual .250/6.5mm bore snake.

Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

Cyrano4747 posted:

Better yet, Buy an actual .250/6.5mm bore snake.

That does seem like the common-sense choice. Probably should have figured that one out all by myself.

Fang
Jul 9, 2001

Why couldn't Fluttershy finish her carrot?

She was a little horse

Am I the only one who doesn't like boresnakes? I have a couple that I use with .22s, but I always supplement them with a Patchworm or the usual rod and brush. They seem ideal for .22s where you can't clean from the breech, but shoot them often enough that getting the bore perfectly clean is wasted effort. They're sucky for applying solvent or oil, and if you run it through enough that the brushes can have some effect, you're redepositing fouling on the metal. I'm considering ditching mine for an Otis pull-through .22 kit.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


Fang posted:

Am I the only one who doesn't like boresnakes? I have a couple that I use with .22s, but I always supplement them with a Patchworm or the usual rod and brush. They seem ideal for .22s where you can't clean from the breech, but shoot them often enough that getting the bore perfectly clean is wasted effort. They're sucky for applying solvent or oil, and if you run it through enough that the brushes can have some effect, you're redepositing fouling on the metal. I'm considering ditching mine for an Otis pull-through .22 kit.

I've never had those issues. In fact, I usually apply solvent, dry, and oil with one pull.

Just put a bunch of solvent (I use hoppes for simple cleans like this) on the brush and on the inch or so of material south of the brush. You'll notice there's a kind of "pad" area where it's sewn flat that I find works great for this. I put a fair amount on it - enough that it feels distinctly wet to the touch, but not enough that it's dripping.

I leave the rest of the snake dry, except for the end right above the "oh poo poo" loop, where I oil it down pretty heavily.

As the snake gets pulled through it brushes, then lays solvent, then takes the solvent up, then lays oil. One pull is all I really ever need and my bores come out looking shiny and clean.

Of course, this is for normal cleanings. When I first get a milsurp I have to go to town on the barrel with patches by hand, because inevitably they're filthy and just need a really, really deep clean. Usually this involves multiple solvents as well, specifically to get at stuff like really thickly plated on copper.

Dogbrisket
Jun 10, 2009



Quick question: Charles Daly Hi Power with 2 magazines for $350: buy or don't buy?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

I am a closet nazi apologist.


Dogbrisket posted:

Quick question: Charles Daly Hi Power with 2 magazines for $350: buy or don't buy?

buy, but only after you figure out what's horribly wrong with it that it's priced so low.

Dogbrisket
Jun 10, 2009



Cyrano4747 posted:

buy, but only after you figure out what's horribly wrong with it that it's priced so low.

Yeah, I had a feeling that's the answer I'd get. I never see these for sale, so I honestly wans't sure how much they went for used. I can't find any other examples on Gunbroker.

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!



My rifle (along with dad's rifles in the same safe) has some sort of furry-looking poo poo all along the length of the bore. I have no idea what it is but I'm almost certain it's not rust; my rifle is totally rust-free elsewhere and totally fuzz-free elsewhere. I cleaned the poo poo out of all of them as usual. I can't think of anything I could've done wrong/forgotten but this is the second time running that there's been poo poo in there. Whatever it is it's a bitch to get out, but once out, it seems not to have done any damage. I'm not shooting corrosive (and dad's rifles sure as all gently caress aren't), there are silica packets in the safe with them, and there's no signs of rust (well, on my Enfield; dad doesn't clean his rifles nearly as often or as well as he should, so his have a few minor spots here and there every time I check them).

I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas what it might be? My only real guesses are either some kind of mold or dust, but I have no idea why either would settle inside the bore but nowhere else.

Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


Insane Totoro posted:

Buck Mark Contour 7.25 URX for $450. Brick and mortar store, so sales tax. Probably have to wait a week or two for it to come in. Worth tit?

Ehh, show em off and see if they'll knock off $50

Seems decent price, but I'd try for $450 out the door (tax, title, vehicle processing fees). Use a wad of $50s instead of the debit/credit card.

rossmum posted:

My rifle (along with dad's rifles in the same safe) has some sort of furry-looking poo poo all along the length of the bore. I have no idea what it is but I'm almost certain it's not rust; my rifle is totally rust-free elsewhere and totally fuzz-free elsewhere. I cleaned the poo poo out of all of them as usual. I can't think of anything I could've done wrong/forgotten but this is the second time running that there's been poo poo in there. Whatever it is it's a bitch to get out, but once out, it seems not to have done any damage. I'm not shooting corrosive (and dad's rifles sure as all gently caress aren't), there are silica packets in the safe with them, and there's no signs of rust (well, on my Enfield; dad doesn't clean his rifles nearly as often or as well as he should, so his have a few minor spots here and there every time I check them).

I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas what it might be? My only real guesses are either some kind of mold or dust, but I have no idea why either would settle inside the bore but nowhere else.

Does anything show up on the patches when swabbing? The only thing I could think of would be linty-as-poo poo patches that are leaving crap in there. (or spiders)

Cheap Bourbon fucked around with this message at Jun 18, 2010 around 23:34

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!



Nothing noteworthy, just the usual carbon. I did notice they were leaving some lint, but if that's what it is, it must be loving breeding.

Uncle Caveman
Jun 16, 2006



Cyrano4747 posted:

buy, but only after you figure out what's horribly wrong with it that it's priced so low.
Eh, that seems like an average-to-good price for a CDHP. The only knock against them is they're not 100% parts-compatible with Browning/FN like the FM models are.

WimpBastard
Feb 11, 2006

"sorry about my dick"

Fang posted:

Am I the only one who doesn't like boresnakes? I have a couple that I use with .22s, but I always supplement them with a Patchworm or the usual rod and brush. They seem ideal for .22s where you can't clean from the breech, but shoot them often enough that getting the bore perfectly clean is wasted effort. They're sucky for applying solvent or oil, and if you run it through enough that the brushes can have some effect, you're redepositing fouling on the metal. I'm considering ditching mine for an Otis pull-through .22 kit.

I really like the Otis kit. I bought a "full" kit and that has been about all I've invested in cleaning equipment for all calibres other than a boresnake or two to save me time.

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


What the hell is this TOS that people on M4C.net keep talking about?

Flaming Iguana
Dec 24, 2001
I got this account for Xmas.

Atticus_1354 posted:

What the hell is this TOS that people on M4C.net keep talking about?

ar15.com, "the other site"

Atticus_1354
Dec 9, 2006

Don't you go near that dog, you understand? Don't go near him, he's just as dangerous dead as alive.


Flaming Iguana posted:

ar15.com, "the other site"

Thanks. That explains it.

Cheap Bourbon
Apr 13, 2010


rossmum posted:

Nothing noteworthy, just the usual carbon. I did notice they were leaving some lint, but if that's what it is, it must be loving breeding.

If you have black stuff coming out after storage, I have no clue, it is a mystery....


The lint _might_ be explained by oiled linty patch depositing stuff that dries out/expands after the solvent/oil evaporates..

(okokokok, its a long-shot.. hoping someone else can offer a reasonable explanation)

The fact that you examine the guns regularly and its not red-rust, makes me feel good.

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infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Secret Ooze posted:

Somebody take these 300 Weatherby rounds!

You forgot to give them to me.

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