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Can anyone recommend a decently-priced electroplater? I just need a couple small parts done, not a whole gun or anything.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2010 19:57

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 08:17

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dumb question time. What's the functional difference between brass and steel cased cartridges?

# ¿ Dec 6, 2010 00:27

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Gtab posted:

One is brass and one is steel

yeah that right there is why I said functional difference

# ¿ Dec 6, 2010 00:32

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Propagandalf posted:

So, a few weeks back my 15-22 fired out of battery and hosed up the extractor. S&W wants it back for service. I've never shipped a rifle before, where do you guys go to get rifle-sized unmarked boxes? The factory box is covered in SAFETY WARNINGS and logos. Is a cheap hard case acceptable for mailing, and will they return it with the repaired rifle? If that won't work, would I be out of line to ask a local shop if they have a box I can use? Or should I just get a larger box from Wal Mart, cut it up, and wrap the factory box in plain cardboard?

Go to a place that sells guns and ask if they have any of the boxes they received them in. That's what I do for guitars, anyway, so I'd think it'd work for guns!

# ¿ Dec 9, 2010 23:33

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ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

This is incorrect

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

I disagree

He was talking about the .38 CBC SPL, not the .38 S&W

# ¿ Dec 24, 2010 21:58

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Is it true that one can't suppress a 92FS because the front sight is too low and not replaceable? If so,

# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 00:44

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ShaiHulud posted:

Where did you hear that nonsense?

Why, at my local mom-and-pop gun store, the most reliable source of firearm information!

That's good to know, though. I figured a 92FS would be fairly ideal given its protruding barrel.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 01:35

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wilfoy posted:

Where can you buy sights like that? The pawn shop down the road has a police surplus 92 for $250 and i might buy it.

A Beretta 92 for $250? I'm jealous as all gently caress. Best deal I've found around here was a 96 for $300 but I don't feel like paying for .40.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 19:36

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Seriously, if you don't want a 92 for $250 then please ask if he'll ship because I do

# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 01:01

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Atticus_1354 posted:

Can you swap calibers on an M&P with a barrel change? I was thinking .357 sig and 9mm. Also, can you run .357 sig through a 9mm suppressor?

I wanna say probably, because 9 mm = .354 in

# ¿ Jan 5, 2011 05:40

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televiper posted:

if we're editing out threads, you might consider editing out posts referring to illegal actions in edited out threads. Just a thought.

Yeah there's really nothing stopping you from putting the story together there.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2011 19:41

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Hey, I'm kicking around ideas for a deer rifle. It'll be a while until I actually get one, but it's fun to research! Anyway, I've decided I really like this:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...oducts_id/52563

Good? Bad? Something else I should be looking at in that price range? I'd love to get some opinions on this. Oh, and I'm liking .308 because I can still use it at a range out of season with cheapo ball ammo!

# ¿ Jan 10, 2011 23:05

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His Divine Shadow posted:

I also wanted to ask about Beretta 92s, do any of the models that Beretta make come without a decocker? I don't mind the safety location but I do mind decockers.

The 92DS is a DAO and the lever just functions as a safety. The 92D is also DAO and has no lever at all. If you want an SA/DA without a decocker, there are none from the factory like that, but someone mentioned you can put a 92D slide on a 92FS frame to accomplish that.

# ¿ Jan 15, 2011 18:42

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Neo Mara posted:

you can also put a SA/DA trigger and hammer in a D gun. Same thing but may be cheaper

That's an even better idea. Yay for parts interchangeability!

# ¿ Jan 15, 2011 18:49

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At a gun show a couple days ago, a very nice lady running a table had a blued Ruger Bearcat sitting there with the cylinder and roll mark engraving all filled in with gold. It looked seriously awesome, especially since it matched the gold in the grip screw and trigger guard. She kinda told me how she did it, in that she rubbed some gold something or other in there and then wiped away the excess, but she didn't tell me exactly what she used. She did mention that it could be removed with mineral spirits. Any ideas?

# ¿ Jan 25, 2011 00:09

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Uncle Caveman posted:

That's brass, btw

still looked rad

# ¿ Jan 25, 2011 00:41

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I found a waxy-base gold leaf at a local craft store. I wonder if that'd do the trick.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2011 00:49

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The CZ's rollmarks are delightfully over the top and sure to impress your fuddy shootin' range neighbors! I'd own that pistol in a heartbeat.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2011 23:21

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I like turtles posted:

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/n...cgi?read=134963

oh my god yesss

# ¿ Jan 30, 2011 02:49

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At my local store, every employee open carries. Specifically, they tend to open carry Kimbers with Wilson Combat mags. There might be a little truth to the subtle advertising angle.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2011 20:10

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Savage 99s and Winchester 1895s feed from spool and box mags, so those come in fun and exotic calibers as well.

Shameless C/P of cartridges from Wikipedia.

Savage 99:
.300 Savage sporting cartridge, .308 Winchester, 7.62mm NATO, .30-30 WCF, .250 Savage, .22 Hi Power, .22-250 Rem, .243 Win, .308 Win, .358 Win, 7mm-08 Rem, .284 Win, .38-55 WCF, .32 Win SPL

Winchester 1895:
.30-40 Krag, 7.62x54mmR, .303 British, .30-03, .30-06 Springfield, .35 WCF, .38-72 WCF, .40-72 WCF, .405 Winchester

# ¿ Feb 4, 2011 05:22

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An OD Glock 34 or 35 is definitely on my list. OD Glocks own and I'm pretty sad they're going away

# ¿ Feb 5, 2011 01:00

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Kommienzuspadt posted:

Depends on who you ask. Cooper's 4th rule can be subsumed into his 2nd.

Redundancy is a major aspect of the rules IMO. I like having #4 be its own thing for that reason.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 20:51

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Kommienzuspadt posted:

see my previous post, noob.

but he just addressed your previous post. Rule 2 is cleared once you've acquired in your sights something you ARE willing to destroy, but aside from that, you still need to consider Rule 4 about what's behind and beyond that. It's two different principles.

# ¿ Feb 6, 2011 21:20

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Solice Kirsk posted:

I'm wondering what would be the best deal for an automatic in the $500-600 range. I really like the Sig P226 and P229 but can't seem to find them for under that price even used around me. Any help would be appreciated.

Oh, I like 9mm and 40 S&W, but am open to pretty much anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

If you're patient, you may score one for that price. Top Gun Supply had police trade-in P226s a few months ago for about $550.

Aside from that, $500-600 is a great price range to be in and you have a TON of options. CZ, Beretta, Glock, FN, whatever. I think you'll want to rent a bunch and just see what grabs you.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 04:39

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QuarkMartial posted:

These seem like a pretty good deal. From what I can tell, they are DA/SA with a safety, no decocker, right?

What is the trigger reset like? I could totally go for a long DA pull if the second pull had a short reset.

In my opinion, CZ 75s have a perfectly lovely DA pull. Not long or heavy at all. Dunno about reset because I don't have one in front of me, sorry.

Also consider these from the same seller. It's basically the same gun with a flattened and serrated trigger guard and a ring hammer instead of a spur hammer. I'm a sucker for ring hammers, though.

edit: Dammit Robertson Trading Post when are you gonna get surplus 92FS back in stock.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 22:17

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QuarkMartial posted:

Thanks!

They're sorta-local to me, so I'd just stop by there and try them out firsthand. Just to make sure I'm not being an idiot: the DA is straight up "hammer doesn't need to be cocked at all just pull trigger and it goes bang", right? I mean, I think so, but then I'm way overthinking the line in that wall-o-text that reads, "The .227 wide serrated spur hammer has a half cock position for safety-off double action carry."

That's correct. The CZ will fire in DA if you pull the trigger with the safety off. Doesn't matter if the hammer is all the way down or half-cocked. Half-cock just keeps the hammer from resting on the firing pin when you're carrying it.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 22:24

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thermobollocks posted:

Is there not a transfer bar-like mechanism that has to go in place? I thought they dealt with that whole "firing pin against a live primer" thing quite some time ago.

There probably is, but that's still the point of a half-cock.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 23:55

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DeathSandwich posted:

If/when I do make it to that test range, I was thinking about trying a hi-power and a springfield xd on top of the above list, we'll see how it pans out.

A Hi-Power was my first non-22 handgun and I love it, but I've never seen a range that rents them out, so trying before you buy may be a no-go there unless you know someone who owns one that you could try.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2011 19:27

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AbdominalSnowman posted:

If you had $600 to spend on any firearm / firearms you wanted, what would you buy? (Besides 6 and a half Mosins).

If I had nothing: A nice .22 pistol like a Buckmark or Mk III, and the rest would go towards ammo, cleaning supplies, earpro, targets, etc.

With what I already have: Beretta 92FS Inox.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2011 06:50

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I like turtles posted:

Because I like TFR people and some of you play guitar I wanted to ask here first:
Can I get a decent resonator guitar for $200? What should I look for?

I haven't played guitar. I played violin for a few years as a kid, and oboe for about a year, no other real musical background.

I doubt you'll find a decent resonator under $500. What do you want to do with it? Just slide, or for strumming as well? Do you have a preference between wood body and metal body?

The main thing you should look for in any guitar if you've never played before is whether or not the neck feels good to you. This is moot if you're only planning on playing slide - you can even get a square neck and call it even. If you're planning on playing it like a standard acoustic, the neck becomes a big concern. This is a big part of why I'd never advise anyone order their first guitar online - go out and play a few first. Even if you don't know how to play a single note, hold some in your hands and see what feels good.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2011 04:18

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Giant Isopod posted:

While we're on the subject (sorta) I have a polymer framed CZ-75 SP-01 phantom that I bought before I really understood the differences between SA/DA and the like. Would it be possible to do the CZ-75 SAO conversion and the CZ custom trigger job on it?

CZ Custom won't do it because it would leave the gun without a manual safety for an SAO, and a lot of smiths don't work on CZs, sooooo good luck with that one. I'd stick with a trigger job and leave it SA/DA.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2011 22:00

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My Ruger Mk III is not extracting snap caps. It pulls them about halfway out, but then the rim of the cartridge falls out of the extractor claw and gets caught on the magazine feed lips. It extracts live rounds okay, but I'm worried this is a sign of my extractor failing. What's the deal? It's always worked fine before, but last time I took it out, I fired a box of 50 CCI Stingers through it. Maybe the rounds were too much for the gun to handle?

# ¿ Feb 20, 2011 22:00

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thermobollocks posted:

No, the rounds are not too much for the gun to handle. Modern .22LR of any sort will not damage your Ruger.

Are they snap caps, or those action proving dummies? If you actually dry-fire on most .22LR dummies, the rims will get shredded because it's apparently hard to make actual rimfire snap caps.

Also, clean under your extractor.

I don't actually dry fire .22 caps, I just use them for loading/unloading and testing functions that don't involve pulling the trigger.

I took the gun down and cleaned the poo poo out of the bolt earlier this morning - got the extractor and bolt face around it squeaky clean. gently caress YOU to anyone who says taking these guns apart 'isn't a big deal.' It was way more complicated than any other gun I've ever stripped, and for silly, nonsensical reasons.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2011 22:11

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Our company did work on Layne Staley's house when he was alive. We had a crew walk off the job and refuse to work until they cleared the empty needles off the lawn. This was before I worked there but my dad was the salesman for the job.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2011 01:05

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Kommienzuspadt posted:

Also front sight milled into the reciever =

The 92A1, Vertec, and anything with a brigadier slide has it dovetailed!

I love my Beretta. Today was my first day shooting it with its new Wolff spring and it is seriously fun to shoot now. I still do better with my CZ, but not by much.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2011 05:52

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FONV handles it pretty well: as long as the gun is in ~70% to 100% condition, it will run fine, shoot straight, and not gently caress up. As the condition drops below 70 and lower, accuracy and damage begin to suffer a little. At about 30% and below, the weapon will start to jam up on reloads, more frequently as it drops lower, but your character clears them automatically. Gameplay wise, it just means you have a good chance of reloads taking much longer if your gun is in poo poo shape. Also, hotter or dirtier loads (like magnum shotshells or bulk surplus ammo) wear the gun faster.

Fallout 3 didn't have that plateau of 'gun is fine' between 70 and 100 percent. In that game, its functional condition (accuracy and damage) start degrading as soon as you start shooting it, which is silly.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2011 20:17

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Flikken posted:

E: I was wrong on the nomenclature, but the little washers that go between the Grips and the Grip screws, mine are missing (I am reconverting my centurion from its well, stupid hogue grips. And the washers are not in the case with the with old grips

Those are just regular old lock washers. Go to your hardware store and find some of the proper size and you're golden.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2011 19:36

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I like turtles posted:

Double posting - The Cabelas in Phoenix has Henry .22 lever actions for like $230. They worth it at that price, or should I wait for a Marlin lever .22?

For what it's worth, I have a Henry .22 and I like it quite a bit. Accuracy is lovely, sights are good, and it's a lot of fun. The lever is also by far the smoothest of any of the .22 leverguns I compared. That said, the receiver cover is thin aluminum (not a mechanical problem but it feels cheap) and the metal finish is pretty unimpressive. Also, every now and then it'll fail to chamber a round and jam up in the receiver. I've mentioned this to other Henry owners and they don't seem to have this problem, so maybe it's just mine.

I'm quite happy with the gun, especially for what I paid for it, but if you find a good price on a BLR or something, I'd buy that instead. The Henry is GREAT for what it is: a lower cost lever action .22 that sacrifices little in function to meet its budget price tag.

oh also mine has beautiful wood

# ¿ Mar 25, 2011 19:41

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# ¿ May 25, 2013 08:17

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LifeSizePotato posted:

Edit: Question: I don't understand the New Zealand tracer fire goldmine thread.

New Zealand is made of beautiful forests and, as idiots on the show Sons of Guns learned the hard way, tracers can start fires if fired at brush. It's not a super deep joke, but it was well executed.

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