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JLea posted:Actually, I'm reading over this Driver position and I'm a little confused. It says I don't need my P's to have the position, but it tells me my roles will be "driving military equipment on civilian roads" Service licence. Don Music posted:How the gently caress do I know who my case manager is? is it a question of once I ring, I will find out who it is, because I'll be call forwarded to some random case manager? If you gently caress up the aptitude tests then they'll just offer you some less technical or simpler jobs. Eg. You want to be a techo, but you get offered grunt or clerk. The Dog-Broccoli Gambit posted:I'm joining the RAAF as a CETECH, have done my assesment and have my fitness test in december, then enlistment in january. I know a couple of CETECHs, and from what I hear from them it seems to go that if you put your hand up for a deployment, then you'll get it. A lot of guys in the ADF are quite content to sit around and do nothing, so if you're motivated you can pretty much get any trip/posting/deployment you want. Plank posted:Mine told me I was an anti-social neckbeard. She bagged me out about having no friends for about ten minutes. Civilian or uniformed member?
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quote:If you gently caress up the aptitude tests then they'll just offer you some less technical or simpler jobs. Eg. You want to be a techo, but you get offered grunt or clerk. I mean the actual formal interview, the one that goes with the psych and medical. I've passed the aptitude test already.
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JLea grats on becoming a Driver man, it's a hell of a lot of fun especially once you get to screw around with the Unimog's and see what they are capable of. Anyone good luck with anything mate hit me up if you need any help/advice.
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Can anyone give an idea on how good the sites https://www.ausmilitary.com and https://www.aussiearmy.org are for information? From what I gather from their forums almost no one gets deployed unless you are Infantry or Engineer and even then it isn't guaranteed.
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I'm actually off to my assessment session next tuesday. Ive been spending time to research the two roles I applied for (Infosys tech and Communications Systems Operator (Radio Jockey)), my best friend has given me a lot of info (he's a Geek, been in for 3-4 years now), and he wrote me a recommendation letter as well. I'm buying a suit tonight or the weekend, also may look at getting my hair cut a little shorter (it's just past my ears at the moment). I found the hardest part of the preparation phone interview was the kind of question: "What makes you suited to be a member of the ADF?". Trying to read over the Army Core Values and how I relate to them. If I can get that down I'm confident I can answer it all with confidence. Anything else I may have forgotten?
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sos posted:Can anyone give an idea on how good the sites https://www.ausmilitary.com and https://www.aussiearmy.org are for information? From what I gather from their forums almost no one gets deployed unless you are Infantry or Engineer and even then it isn't guaranteed. I've been a member over at ausmilitary.com for a while now and can vouch for most of the regulars that post there. Members are about a 90:10 split between new guys who will never go there again after their Assessment Day and regulars who are actually serving and know what they're on about it (most of the time). Never been to the other site so can't really comment on them. I'm shipping off to Cerberus on September 20th, looking forward to it way more then I'd care to admit  They've got me down as a Cryptologic Linguist, I sent off my clearance papers the other day so it's just a matter of waiting to see if my country thinks I'm trustworthy or no...PancakeTransmission posted:Anything else I may have forgotten? Clean your ears beforehand, nothing would suck more then to fail the hearing test 'cause of a nasty wax buildup (it HAS happened). You could probably get away with just dress pants and a collared shirt if you're concerned about spending to much on a suit, I personally got away with that plus a suit jacket (no tie). You WILL be asked during the psych interview how you feel about the possibility of having to take a life during service, best to think of a good (but honest) answer now because this question can make or break your recommendation. Also, keep learning everything you can about your two preferences, but make sure you can talk about them with sounding like a text-to-speech bot reading the Defence Jobs website. And bring a book plus food/drinks. Chances are you'll be in the DFR office for at least 4+ hours and you might not get a chance to duck out before the end. FrontLine fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jul 30, 2010 |
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Yeah, mate of mine is just about to go for his interviews and is going on about having to wear a suit and tie. gently caress, they just told me "presentable and nothing obscene", so I went in wearing a decent collared shirt and a pair of jeans. That said, it was Newcastle, so they probably go easier on dress standards. I only saw one guy in a suit of any sort and he looked jumpy as gently caress.
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Penguin Radar posted:Oh, and I'm currently in the training pipeline as a Seaman Officer. So if there's any questions relating to recruitment, training, general whatever feel free to send them my way. Excellent, this thread came just in time! As a prospective Seaman Officer, I was wondering what you found the high/low points of the job to be? The Navy website puts a gloss on it, I'm just wondering what the inevitable downsides to the job are. At the same time, I'm sure that there's a lot of good things which didn't make it onto the site as well. Also, do you have any idea what intake/retention/promotion is like for the Seaman Officer cohort? My understanding is that things are moving pretty slowly these days, and that you can expect to be stuck at SBLT for quite a while. Thanks for any help
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rossmum posted:That said, it was Newcastle, so they probably go easier on dress standards. I only saw one guy in a suit of any sort and he looked jumpy as gently caress. Mine was in the Melbourne office so I don't think it was just you guys. There was a bit of variation but few people were in a full suit and tie getup. Although one guy did rock up in an Iron Maiden shirt and skater shoes, not sure how it worked out for him.
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Grey Skies posted:Excellent, this thread came just in time! Yep, the Navy Website sure does sugarcoat it. I'll break it down to as realistic as I can. Basically, how you find the job and the training depends alot on your age and background. But the inevitable downsides are pretty obvious. You are going to be at sea, or in very remote locations, for the first six years at a minimum, locations that will change every 6 months if you're lucky, more often if you're not. To say that puts a massive strain on relationships is an understatement to say the least. Nearly every Seaman Officer I know is single, divorced or in a Service relationship. It can be incredibly freakin' lonely at times. Don't expect time off either, since joining in Jan last year, I've had less than 2 weeks of actual leave, and missed Christmas last year. The shore phases of training are pretty much the equivalent of being in highschool. Infact, it pretty much is highschool. Classes from 8 - 4 every day, generally death by powerpoint where your workload will fluctuate from nothing at all 90% of the time, until your busier and more stressed than you can imagine for the other 10% You'll be in classes with people straight out of highschool mostly, with 97% from private schooling backgrounds. For me, as a 24 year old from a very rough public school background, and a string of jobs and uni, it's a big step backward and quite strange. The majority of people will be from Military families, ie. Nephews of Admirals and the like. Which again is kinda strange when you've got no background at all. For the first 3 years, until you receive your Bridge Warfare Certificate, you will be treated like useless poo poo essentially. If there's a poo poo job, you'll get it. Highlights include changing sanitary bins, rewriting stacks of files, laminating or binding. All this is interspersed with doing one in three bridge watches (8 hours off, 4 on) for about 4 weeks straight. During bridge watches you'll take fixes on the chart, do the paperwork, make calls to the captain, and have no real responsibility. Which sucks, but can be better or worse depending on your Officer of the Watch. So, expect little sleep, little pay ($1400 a fortnight), little responsibility and alot of tedious shitwork until you actually get ticketed. That said, when you do take the ship to run a pilotage for the first time, or a berthing or anchorage, and you are the one running the entire show, it's a pretty loving awesome feeling. No matter how much shitwork and how tired I am, at the end of the day I drive loving Warships for a living, and am responsible for the lives of 50 - 200 people and hundreds of millions worth of equipment. When you walk out onto the bridgewing for a smoke while the sun is rising while your out passaging in the open sea somewhere, realizing what your actually doing is a pretty amazing thing. As for intake and retention, it's pretty horrible. The current intakes are massive, and retention is very low. Out of my class of 25 at the start of last year, 15 are left. Of those, 12 will get out after the 6 years is up. Places in the fleet are pretty scarce at the moment, and there's essentially no choice in postings. As for promotion from Subby to LEUT, it's automatic. Once you earn your BWC, and consolidate for a year, you get made up. At the moment, that's where the problems are. There's alot of stagnant two ringers and not alot of places for them to go. Pretty much guaranteed you'll end up doing teaching unless you can get on a specialization course. Any other questions just hit me up.
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Penguin Radar posted:No matter how much shitwork and how tired I am, at the end of the day I drive loving Warships for a living, and am responsible for the lives of 50 - 200 people and hundreds of millions worth of equipment. When you walk out onto the bridgewing for a smoke while the sun is rising while your out passaging in the open sea somewhere, realizing what your actually doing is a pretty amazing thing. I feel the same way about the army. No matter how little I get paid, I dig loving holes for a living, and sleep in the rain. I am responsible for my rifle and my NVGs and if I lose either of those I will be severely raped. When you crawl into the muddy pit for stand to and the sun is rising, realizing that you are functioning on 2 hours of sleep is a pretty amazing thing. Apple Pyro fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Aug 1, 2010 |
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FrontLine posted:Mine was in the Melbourne office so I don't think it was just you guys. There was a bit of variation but few people were in a full suit and tie getup. Although one guy did rock up in an Iron Maiden shirt and skater shoes, not sure how it worked out for him. Cause I mean, I live in Cairns and you can't really get too much more backwater than here. I was probably the best dressed person for my YOU session (polo shirt and trousers; the worst dressed was wearing a fluro safety vest, and thongs), however most of the guys there for the Assessment session were wearing a full suit (also possible they were going for officer positions but meh). So gently caress it, I'm wearing a suit and tie. They're not exactly hurting for people at the moment compared to before the GFC, so I figure I'll do everything I can to ensure my success.
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Hey guys! I'm thinking of joining the army reserves, I've always wanted to join the army, but I know if I did I'd never go to university. Can anyone give me some advice on the army reserves? I'm considering being a rifleman, artilleryman, or artillery officer. Can anybody shed some light on these? I'll say a little about myself; I'm 17 years old, (turning 18 in september!), I'm studying a bachelor of commerce at university, I'm around 6'1 and 75kg (I don't know if this matters in regards to advice), I enjoy sports and motorbike riding. I don't have any particular skills, as this is why I'm going for the (above) listed. I'm not very keen to get deployed as I don't really want to lose time in university, do I have a choice in this? Also, I live on the Gold Coast (moving closer to Brisbane) QLD and I know that the above listed are at Enoggera. Can anybody shed some light on the reserves? Is it a joke? Is it a challenge? Is there anything I should know? Thanks in advance! e; sorry if my post is incoherent, any questions I didn't cover (many) feel free to ask Guni fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Aug 2, 2010 |
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Wow, thanks Penguin Radar, that was a lot of useful information. I'll be sure to hit you up if I think of any other questions! I must say it's interesting that there's lots of stagnation at the LEUT stage. Defence characterises the Seaman Officer gig as a 'priority job', which I always assumed meant there was a shortage of warm bodies with which to fill vacant slots. I can't imagine marking time for x number of years while you wait for some kind of seniority or specialist training is any fun at all.
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In the Reserves you wont get deployed unless you sign up for it (unless World War 3 starts or whatever). Places are pretty hotly contested for deployments. So far Reserves has been really fun for me, i'm just gutted i'm missing out on a training week that sounded awesome fun.
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Guni posted:Hey guys! I'm thinking of joining the army reserves, I've always wanted to join the army, but I know if I did I'd never go to university. Can anyone give me some advice on the army reserves? I'm considering being a rifleman, artilleryman, or artillery officer. Can anybody shed some light on these? The difference between General Entry and Officer is pretty extreme. Rifleman is probably one of the easiest roles to understand. The Army bases itself around the organisation of a Rifle formation. Your Tuesday nights will usually be spent covering weapons handling, small-unit tactics, radio use and competency building. Competency building will be dependent on what large-scale training is coming up that you need to be able to handle. Chances are pretty good your Company will have a training platoon, and after Kapooka you'll slot right in until you've finished your Initial Employment Training. IETs are courses that teach you the Infantry-specific skills and at the moment it's two blocks of two weeks. If you do want to deploy or go on some of the cooler overseas training, Infantry is basically the only position to look at. Gunner I know a lot less about other than you will be expected to be as regimented as gently caress. Artillery requires a lot of discipline in ensuring accurate, effective fire is laid on and it all starts with how well drilled and switched-on the gunners are. Artillery Officer starts out the same as every officer in the Reserves and it is very Infantry-centric. You do Kapooka as an Officer Cadet (i.e. heat magnet) and then proceed to have to pick up an absolute shitload of competencies. Everything from getting your platoon to assault the enemy to knowing which knife and fork to use at a Dining-In night. Tuesday nights will be spent picking up little competencies, and you have three two-week courses across the country and one four-week course at RMC Duntroon before you get commissioned as a Lieutenant. All courses are run every six months, staggered so that it's possible (although extremely unlikely) that you'll be able to finish them in twelve months. It's not until after you get commissioned that you'll be looking at the role of an officer beyond the Infantry environment. Guni posted:I'm 17 years old, (turning 18 in september!), I'm studying a bachelor of commerce at university, I'm around 6'1 and 75kg (I don't know if this matters in regards to advice), I enjoy sports and motorbike riding. I don't have any particular skills, as this is why I'm going for the (above) listed. You're pretty much in exactly the same boat I was when I enlisted. I really can't endorse the officer stream, at all. You don't get to do a lot of 'soldier' stuff, but when you do you're expected to do it to the standard of a trained Rifleman, anyway. Recruiters will really push for you to go Officer, because you're in uni, but don't let yourself get bullied into it unless that's what you really want to do. Guni posted:I'm not very keen to get deployed as I don't really want to lose time in university, do I have a choice in this? As Plank said, unless the Reserves get mobilised in defence of the country, all deployments are voluntary. Chances are also incredibly good that unless you're a Rifleman or attachable to a Rifle formation the opportunity won't even come up. Other Corps that will deploy from Reserves (albeit in more limited numbers) are Transport, Medics, Signals and Ordinance. Guni posted:Also, I live on the Gold Coast (moving closer to Brisbane) QLD and I know that the above listed are at Enoggera. Wouldn't a clue about QLD, other than the Royal Queensland Regiment gets some of the best training and deployment opportunities.
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Posting in here alot cause I'm too scared to ring up a case manager. I got immediately shut down by my careers counselor on my YOU session, despite doing "remarkably well", because I did English Communication at school. The site only says that you have to pass Year 12 English. It says Modified Maths isn't allowed, but nothing about Modified English. I've also got a Diploma in Business Management and I have deferred a Bachelor of Business for this year at Griffith to join the ADF. Surely the ADF doesn't have higher expectations than a Uni?  I posted on ausmilitary asking this question, and basically got yelled at for something along the lines of "being a lazy poo poo" Anyone here know? Don Music fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Aug 2, 2010 |
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Don Music posted:Posting in here alot cause I'm too scared to ring up a case manager. My guess is that Defence recruiting isn't consistent on what counts as 'modified' for a subject. It's the first time I've even heard the term, really. Unfortunately, the only way to sort it out is to ring your case manager, because they're the one that will put ticks in boxes. If you did an interview, you were likely given the business card of your interviewer or recruiter. They're your case manager. If you didn't get a card, just ring the recruiting office and they'll likely put you onto one of their officer recruiting specialists. Edit: Oh, hey, an edit. The ADF looks at education the same way any other business does, especially for officers. If you went to an Engineering firm and interviewed to become an Engineer, a Commerce degree wouldn't suffice. Same-same for wanting to become an officer with x requirements.
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Thanks cruelangeleo7 and plank, much obliged! Another question; I know in the full-time army you have to sign up for 4years or more, in the reserves is it something like this? I think I read somewhere you can leave whenever, but surely there is restrictions on this? Also, coming back to cruelangelo, do you think that rifleman would be the easiest to slot into? I'd love to do a few other jobs, but they aren't in my region and therefore can't, so rifelman or artillery officer/man is my options I'm interested in. Also; you recommend not going for officer? Can you give me some pro's and cons? Thanks a lot, it's really appreciated!
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Plank posted:There is NO minimum period of service when you join the reserves. If you qualify for High Readiness, which makes you more likely to be deployed and such, you will sign a contract for a year which will lock you in for that year, but otherwise you can piss off at any time. You can even defer, sorta like uni, if you're leaving the country for a few years, and come back straight into your old unit. Awesome, thanks! If I wanted could I choose to sign the locked in contract? Or do they make you sign it if you're in certain fields?
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Guni posted:Also, coming back to cruelangelo, do you think that rifleman would be the easiest to slot into? I'd love to do a few other jobs, but they aren't in my region and therefore can't, so rifelman or artillery officer/man is my options I'm interested in. You will inevitably have to do some heinous things to yourself (15k+ pack marches, digging in the rain, fire and movement up nice rocky hills), and there's a much higher (unofficial) fitness requirement for Infantry than other Corps. But, there's a pretty healthy sense of self-satisfaction in knowing you've done those things. Guni posted:Also; you recommend not going for officer? Can you give me some pro's and cons? I said before that you will spend very little time covering your basic soldier skills, but every time you go out field you will be expected to have the skills of an infantryman. Also, some advice I received from a lot of officers who were soldiers (one of which is now my platoon commander), senior soldiers and my peers who were soldiers was that I was just too young to be doing officer stuff and I should be enjoying myself doing soldier things. However, you asked for some pros and cons, so I'll try: Pro:
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Thanks a lot cruelangel! Based on what you've experienced, I think I'll go for soldier, I want to be doing more practical things rather than paperwork and to be honest I'm not too interested in the traditions and culture of the army (I am interested, but not to high degree's).
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Guni posted:Thanks a lot cruelangel! Based on what you've experienced, I think I'll go for soldier, I want to be doing more practical things rather than paperwork and to be honest I'm not too interested in the traditions and culture of the army (I am interested, but not to high degree's).
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cruelangeleo7 posted:A lot of the traditions are really interesting but definitely not worth basing a Reserves career around. Glad I could help. Precisely what I was thinking!
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Case manager called, they looked through my documents and it's onto assessment day! Yay!  She suggested I go and visit one of the bases though to learn for my assessment day interview. Anyone at Macleod?
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I'm sorry to consistently ask questions, but I have a few more regarding the reserves; If I get the ball rolling now, should I be able to make the January training at Kapooka? In regards to pay, I know generally you have to attend on a specific night for parades/learning and whatnot, but is this classified as a day where you get the full pay, as in would I get my full $90 or whatever the pay may be? Is it easy to fit in, in the reserves? I know there will obviously be some dicks, as there is anywhere, but is the reserves an accommodating place? Thanks for all the previously answered questions especially to cruelangeleo7
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cruelangeleo7 posted:However, you asked for some pros and cons, so I'll try: Ok, going to chime in here from the officer perspective. I'm all for guys who just want to blow poo poo up and get amongst the weeds, in fact I highly recommend the life of a Rifleman if thats what you're interested in. At the same time, there are a some positives in going the officer route. Many of these things are true, but need some context. For example, with regards to the time spent practicing your field skills, you will in fact be much more proficient and have spent much more time in the field having completed your officer training and Infantry Regimental Officers Basic Course (ROBC, where you learn your corps specific skills after you are commissioned) than a rifleman who has just finished his IET courses. You just need to pay attention and learn it the first time. Once you are commissioned you will be expected to know it and be able to apply it when necessary without getting to practice it too often. Yes, the non-residential training (the tuesday nights and weekends in between your two week blocks) is largely dependent on the quality of the instructors at your University Regiment, but all part time OCDTs attend the same training blocks run by the same URs twice a year, on which the instruction is generally very good. In regards to paperwork - yes it sucks, but as a Platoon Commander, particularly if you're infantry or another arms corps, your burden is not that great. After you do your Platoon Command time though and move on, it can get horrific. That being said, you will learn valuable skills in managing people. Not only that, but once you know the system, and if you're any good, you can use it to actually help your diggers rather than gently caress them around. Unless you're older and a CEO or something, and I would argue even then its not the same, as a Platoon Commander the Army will give you more responsibility than you could ever get anywhere else. Its truly unique for that fact alone - we regularly make 22/23 olds responsible for the lives of 30 people and then deploy them to a war zone overseas. Like many things in life, being a Platoon Commander is not particularly fun most of the time while you're actually doing it, but it comes with a deeply ingrained sense of satisfaction when you do it well. izorpo fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Aug 3, 2010 |
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Guni posted:In regards to pay, I know generally you have to attend on a specific night for parades/learning and whatnot, but is this classified as a day where you get the full pay, as in would I get my full $90 or whatever the pay may be? Pay is calculated in thirds, halves and full days based on whatever you daily rate is for your rank and trade. If you work 2 h 59 mins or less, you get a third of a day. If you work between 3 h and 5 h 59 mins, you get half of a day. If you work 6 h or more, you get a full day. This does not include meal breaks. Most units pay a half day for a Tuesday night, but may only parade 3 nights per month. Others may pay a third of a day but parade every Tuesday. Guni posted:Is it easy to fit in, in the reserves? I know there will obviously be some dicks, as there is anywhere, but is the reserves an accommodating place? If you aren't a social outcast elsewhere in your life, its highly unlikely you would be in the reserves. Best to just watch and keep quiet until you've done Kapooka and your IET. izorpo fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Aug 3, 2010 |
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Guni posted:If I get the ball rolling now, should I be able to make the January training at Kapooka? Doubtful. The application process is filled with a lot of 'hurry up and wait', as is Army life. If you're lucky, then yeah, but it relies on the periods of inaction to be short and that relies on the recruiting office to have their thumbs out of their asses. Guni posted:Is it easy to fit in, in the reserves? Just like any place, there are guys you wont mesh with. So far at my unit I've been made very welcome, because they WANT to keep you around and they don't have a four year contract to wave in your face. Also, they're cool guys from a wide range of backgrounds, so everyone is generally pretty accommodating.
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Guni posted:Is it easy to fit in, in the reserves? I know there will obviously be some dicks, as there is anywhere, but is the reserves an accommodating place? I agree with Plank and izopro. Especially about staying quiet and watching while you're waiting to do basic training and IETs. One thing I will mention, though, is that in an infantry environment there'll be almost constant heckling and profanity. That's just the way it is there. I'm not even going to attempt justifying it. I don't mean that in a  way, but rather as fair warning.izopro posted:Words from the dark side Fair call. I get where you're coming from, in regards to field. I only have anecdotal evidence, but the first few months I spent as a rifleman my fieldcraft improved by leaps and bounds over what I'd developed at my University Regiment. Because the focus was on improving fieldcraft to meet mission standard, as opposed to doing the mission and trying to get fieldcraft to standard. Edited to clarify whats for dinner fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Aug 3, 2010 |
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To expand on the above about heckling and profanity, it's generally not intentionally hurtful or whatever the gently caress. It's more a case of "take the piss out of your mates and they do it back, because it's all in good fun" than anything else and you'd do well to either ignore it or (better yet) send it back their way with a few embellishments of your own. We have a guy in my section who has a bit of a temper on and he doesn't take jokes so well, so we have to keep reminding the poor oval office that no, we don't actually think he's gay because he has a brother in the RAN. Profanity (in my mind) is the dumbest of things to get offended over, but fair warning, you will hear it every other word and probably take to doing so yourself. I swear a lot normally but usually hold back unless I'm with mates, but for about two months after I got out of Kapooka I had to really concentrate on not throwing 'gently caress' around in front of the more prudish members of my family. Basically the only way you could not fit in is by being a colossal fuckhead. Even if you're not that social outside, you'll find mates quickly and you'll find that people will bend over backwards to help you if you make it known that you need it.
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Thanks guys, I'm pretty social anyway and I can see myself becoming accustomed to the profanities 
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I have my assessment day in 2 weeks for Artillery Command Systems Operator. I am a bit nervous about it but I have learned as much as I can about the role and I have quite a bit of interview experience.
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