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Hard Clumping posted:and sometimes he'd go "Get ready for some AC-TING!" You misunderstood - he was only doing his best Avery Brooks impression.
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Pooned posted:No love for War without end Part 1 and 2? :O
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Daimo posted:The music and possibly direction in A Call to Arms is poo poo. Yep. The music is really goddamn bad. The last battle was handled really badly, it finished way too quickly in my opinion.
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Milky Moor posted:Yep. The music is really goddamn bad. The last battle was handled really badly, it finished way too quickly in my opinion. To many cuts to footage of the two captains shouting 'Fire', only it was muted so we only could hear the lovely replacement music.
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Ash1138 posted:It's a miracle that I can pick just one episode as my absolute favorite. Yea i know. I saw both episodes a few hours before i read your post so they were fresh in my mind. They aren't the most bad rear end episodes in terms of battles but i just remember how big a "what the gently caress!?" moment i got when i saw Zathras again in season 3 after not knowing what the hell was going on in season 1. I actually got a tear in my eye when i saw the "I tried. I tried to warn him, but it all happened just the way i remember it" scene. Old wrinkly Sinclair. For 2 years it had bugged me that they didn't do more with the B4 plot, and then when they did it was perfect, and it blew my mind at the time. It's weird to think that i was 13 when i first saw that episode. The memories 
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Pooned posted:It's weird to think that i was 13 when i first saw that episode. The memories Oh my, yes. Those were the days.
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tastychicken posted:To many cuts to footage of the two captains shouting 'Fire', only it was muted so we only could hear the lovely replacement music.
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Milky Moor posted:Yep. The music is really goddamn bad. The last battle was handled really badly, it finished way too quickly in my opinion. Wasn't it the same guy who ended up doing the music for Crusade, too? I remember thinking how bloody awful it was in that show, like if somebody had sucked the life out of Bear McCreary, sent him back in time to the late 90's and replaced all his instruments with lovely Casio keyboards.
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Posting this because it both owns and bums me right out and you all get to  with mehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2UQ2l9NPIg
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| # ? Jun 25, 2010 19:45 |
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Chris Franke was awesome and composers don't get nearly enough credit as if a score is done properly you don't notice it.
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| # ? Jun 25, 2010 20:47 |
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Daimo posted:Chris Franke was awesome and composers don't get nearly enough credit as if a score is done properly you don't notice it. I noticed, and I'm a big fan. 
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Daimo posted:Chris Franke was awesome and composers don't get nearly enough credit as if a score is done properly you don't notice it. It's you. You're Rick Berman. e: Chris Franke loving owns though and I noticed the hell out of his awesome score for B5.
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How dare you!  e: I think I'm being misinterpreted though. I mean a score is designed to make you emotionally engage with what youre seeing and it should blend seamlessly. Chris did that and I bet you weren't analysing your emotions mid-episode. If you were then I guess you failed in some part to enjoy Babylon 5. Daimo fucked around with this message at Jun 25, 2010 around 22:13 |
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Crusade wasn't that bad. It started slow, but really got good in its second half. I would rate it about as good as the fifth season of Babylon 5. Also, Galen was awesome. If I had to rate each season/movie: Season 1 - B. Has some stinkers but overall is very good, and I still prefer Sinclair over Sheridan. Season 2 - B+. The story starts to pick up the pace, no bad episodes and the characters get more fleshed out. Season 3 - A+. Probably my favorite season of the show. Every episode was great. The pacing was perfect. Season 4 - A. My second favorite season, every episode was great, but it felt rushed (understandable considering JMS thought this was the last season). I also felt the Shadow War's ending a was a little bit unbelievable, but it's ok. Season 5 - B-. The weakest of the seasons. Seemed like an epilogue more than anything. The first half was slow, and the telepath arc sucked. But the second half was very good. Crusade - B-. Like Season 5, it starts off slow, but picks up the pace in its second half. The show ended on a high point, I was really mad when they didn't pick it up for the rest of the season. TV Movies: The Gathering - C-. Pretty boring pilot. I has its moments though. In the Beginning - B+. This was actually the first Babylon 5 thing I ever saw in its entirety when it first aired (I had seen snippets of episodes here and there over the years, but that's it). It's a very good story, and a strong tv movie. it got me into the show, so it did it's job. Thirdspace - B. This would have made a decent double episode, but I can understand why they didn't put it in season 4 where it would have taken place chronologically. Since it had nothing to do with the overall arc, it would have annoyed a lot of viewers. River of Souls - C+. An okay, if somewhat boring, tv movie that has nothing to do with the story arc. Kind of fits in well with the slow part of season 5, but that doesn't make it any better. A Call to Arms - B. A good tv movie that focuses on Babylon 5 five years later, and provides a set up for Crusade. Despite the weird musical score, I enjoyed this, and it got me interested in seeing how Crusade would resolve this new arc. I also like how it connected with the Shadows, so I was hoping we'd learn more about them in the coming series. Too bad Crusade was so short lived. Legend of the Rangers - D-. Just plain awful. The only good parts were G'kar's scenes, but he wasn't enough to save the movie. How JMS allowed this to air I will never know. The Lost Tales - I have yet to see these, but I hope to soon. They're on my netflix instant queue so I'll get around to it. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2010 around 02:58 |
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I was reading wikipedia for post-series information about the characters, and I found out a few things that might interest people: - A pdf linked directly from Ivanova's article about what happens to Marcus' body after all those years of cryogenic suspension, written by JMS. I thought it was an interesting read: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wvwyu4tb4nj - Sheridan is supposed to be a direct descendant from Civil War General Philip Sheridan, but I looked up his family tree and there are apparently no direct descendants after 1950ish. I thought it would be cool if some descendant today found out that trivia and realized he was the great-etc-grandfather of a ficticious character, but no luck 
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The Big One posted:- A pdf linked directly from Ivanova's article about what happens to Marcus' body after all those years of cryogenic suspension, written by JMS. I thought it was an interesting read: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wvwyu4tb4nj Holy crap, that's awesome. Go Marcus.
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The Big One posted:Depends on what you mean by essential. For purely story arc, I would go with: 1, 8, 13, 18, 19, 20, and 22. I've been trying to stick to this, but it's really tough because each episode has a couple of rather important details. I think TKO is really the only episode you can totally skip without missing anything at all. Also, you're insane if you skip episode 21 because of 
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Haraksha posted:I've been trying to stick to this, but it's really tough because each episode has a couple of rather important details. I think TKO is really the only episode you can totally skip without missing anything at all. The Pakmara?
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Haraksha posted:I've been trying to stick to this, but it's really tough because each episode has a couple of rather important details. I think TKO is really the only episode you can totally skip without missing anything at all. You can skip Soul Hunter as well. I know the Soul Hunters themselves tie in later, but it's really irrelevant. Terrible, terrible episode.
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Jedi posted:You can skip Soul Hunter as well. I know the Soul Hunters themselves tie in later, but it's really irrelevant. Terrible, terrible episode.
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tastychicken posted:The Pakmara? I meant Londo.
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The Big One posted:- A pdf linked directly from Ivanova's article about what happens to Marcus' body after all those years of cryogenic suspension, written by JMS. I thought it was an interesting read: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wvwyu4tb4nj Jesus Marcus is a creeper. And why was that formatted so poorly/
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FISHMANPET posted:Jesus Marcus is a creeper. And why was that formatted so poorly/ Marcus is what goons strive to be and I seriously hated that character from the moment he was introduced and he drat near ruined any episode he was in for me. The exception to that statement of course is when G'Kar was prominent in that episode and it was saved. They made a most satisfying thump!
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CommunistMojo posted:Marcus is what goons strive to be and I seriously hated that character from the moment he was introduced and he drat near ruined any episode he was in for me. The exception to that statement of course is when G'Kar was prominent in that episode and it was saved. Marcus and Franklin being fake gay married was the pinnacle of comedy on B5. Of course, the bar is set really, really low, with the Penn and Teller episode being one of the comedy low points (and low points in general).
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Palleon posted:Marcus and Franklin being fake gay married was the pinnacle of comedy on B5. You really found an episode written by Neil Gaiman one of the series low points? I found it to be pretty good and have some nioce forshadowing for the rest of the series. It is also way better then the Grey 17 is missing or most of the telepath arc.
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The Big One posted:- A pdf linked directly from Ivanova's article about what happens to Marcus' body after all those years of cryogenic suspension, written by JMS. I thought it was an interesting read: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wvwyu4tb4nj This is some wild poo poo. And I love how it's not even unprecedented in the context of the show since they did that season finale where they went thousands of years into the future.
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I just realized that that has the same plot as the new episode of Futurama, and it's just as creepy, too.
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CommunistMojo posted:Marcus is what goons strive to be and I seriously hated that character from the moment he was introduced and he drat near ruined any episode he was in for me. The exception to that statement of course is when G'Kar was prominent in that episode and it was saved. Goons strive to be pretentious bearded virgins? I guess they're more successful in achieving their life goals than I expected.
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Strawman posted:Goons strive to be pretentious bearded virgins? I guess they're more successful in achieving their life goals than I expected. Goons can't pull off a bitchin' Gilbert & Sullivan though.
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Viivac posted:I've never seen DS9, or rather just snippets of episodes. Is it worth watching? At least if I try to imagine it like you say; it's on a different playing field than B5? Just Another Lurker posted:After watching B5 i found it quite tame and dare i say it "fluffy" but that appears to be my take on the whole ST universe. I'd agree, although part of the fluffiness is down to studio-enforced lack of seriality. Part of it is just down to fluffiness, though. "Hello yes we're in the middle of an enormous war, it is time for all the major characters to play baseball against some Vulcans and in the end we learn that it's not the winning that counts, it's about taking part and having fun!"
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bobkatt013 posted:You really found an episode written by Neil Gaiman one of the series low points? I found it to be pretty good and have some nioce forshadowing for the rest of the series. It is also way better then the Grey 17 is missing or most of the telepath arc. The whole Reebo and Zooty bits were TERRIBLE. The rest of the episode was okay (I actually liked it quite a bit), but any scene with Penn and Teller was brutal. I can't tell if they thought that was supposed to be funny, or if it was supposed to be ironically funny because they were so terrible. Palleon fucked around with this message at Jun 28, 2010 around 13:40 |
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Strawman posted:Goons strive to be pretentious bearded virgins? I guess they're more successful in achieving their life goals than I expected. and being super space ninja's fighting evil. I always thought the Reebo and Zooty thing was ironic since no one but humans ever seemed to understand their comedy (I only kind of remember Delenn getting it for a minute or two) reminding us that it's the future and letting the audience feel like aliens for a moment.
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I would've liked the Rebo and Zooty episode a whole lot more if they'd cast anyone besides Penn & Teller, mostly because Penn Jillette was the voice of Comedy Central when they cancelled the greatest show in the history of television. Yeah, I'm still holding a grudge over that, what of it?
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CommunistMojo posted:Marcus is what goons strive to be and I seriously hated that character from the moment he was introduced and he drat near ruined any episode he was in for me. The exception to that statement of course is when G'Kar was prominent in that episode and it was saved. That's funny, Marcus is one of my favorite characters mostly because of the actor chewing the scenery in every scene. He's like a sedate Brian Blessed. Actually, I think it's because he's unflappably sarcastic no matter how much poo poo he's in and I love that.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I would've liked the Rebo and Zooty episode a whole lot more if they'd cast anyone besides Penn & Teller, mostly because Penn Jillette was the voice of Comedy Central when they cancelled the greatest show in the history of television. As a Brit I didn't know either of them and still found them awful!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I would've liked the Rebo and Zooty episode a whole lot more if they'd cast anyone besides Penn & Teller, mostly because Penn Jillette was the voice of Comedy Central when they cancelled the greatest show in the history of television. Chocolate News?
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Doctor Zero posted:Actually, I think it's because he's unflappably sarcastic no matter how much poo poo he's in and I love that. Me too. Marcus rules, gently caress anyone who disagrees.
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Grand Fromage posted:Me too. Marcus rules, gently caress anyone who disagrees. QFT. What the gently caress is wrong with you people? Next thing you'll be saying that you all love Byron and that ridiculous song.
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Palleon posted:The whole Reebo and Zooty bits were TERRIBLE. The rest of the episode was okay (I actually liked it quite a bit), but any scene with Penn and Teller was brutal. I can't tell if they thought that was supposed to be funny, or if it was supposed to be ironically funny because they were so terrible. For some odd reason I read your post like Londo was saying it.
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Grand Fromage posted:Me too. Marcus rules, gently caress anyone who disagrees. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQ-y589mx8 If someone can watch this and still not think he rules, I don't know how they can still enjoy the show.
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