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L33t_Kefka posted:I have been bored as hell lately and I am debating if I should rewatch the show for the nth time. edit: added quote for page snype continuity
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The original Doctor Who run probably shares more with B5 (or at least more of the reason I watch it). They're both very staged programmes, for a start.
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| # ? Nov 8, 2011 17:59 |
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Comedy LEXX option.
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| # ? Nov 8, 2011 18:20 |
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ThaGhettoJew posted:For that matter there is much to be said for Farscape (more or less evil Star Trek with Muppets in it) and the Dr. Who 2005 reboot (lovingly campy and earnest time-travel sci-fi). Seconding Farscape. It's a bit weird and campy in an incongruous way and the story isn't nearly as well planned or executed as B5, but it's a fun show. Keep in mind it doesn't have much fate of the galaxy politics in it, it's just a halfway serious space romp. That's not to say the poo poo doesn't go down, it does. Don't watch LEXX unless you have godlike patience when it comes to random silliness. Still, His Divine Shadow is an awesome badguy name.
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| # ? Nov 8, 2011 21:33 |
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If nothing else watch the first episode of LEXX. It's really top class. Unfortunately when it gets away from the first series, a good majority of the episodes fall into a formula of "one of the crew wants to have sex with something! Bad things happen!".
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LEXX was awesome, what's wrong with you people? Let his divine shadow fall upon the haters.  Don't believe me? Why, just listen to what the divine predecessors had to say about the main protagonist: Divine Predecessors posted:Stanley Tweedle is a god, a warrior, and a gent
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JetsGuy posted:LEXX was awesome, what's wrong with you people? Let his divine shadow fall upon the haters. It's juvenile as hell. Nothing wrong with that, it just turns a lot of people off. Despite my many problems with the series I still love it. His Divine Shadow's voice makes me shiver.
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Nathilus posted:It's juvenile as hell. Nothing wrong with that, it just turns a lot of people off. Despite my many problems with the series I still love it. His Divine Shadow's voice makes me shiver. I freely admit that I first watched it in high school, and when I watched it again about a year ago, I realized just how juvenile it is.
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| # ? Nov 12, 2011 21:34 |
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Timby posted:I was thinking late-stage alcoholic, given the way he ballooned after 1997 or so. Dude got huge. drat. Hope he's okay. How do you know he got so big? I haven't seen him in anything since that season 3 two parter of B5. IMDB says he was on a couple episodes of Law and Order. But after 2000, nothing. Something bad must have happened. It's too bad. I always liked him more than Sheridan. He has a cool voice. I always thought he looked like an older version of Christian Bale. It's a shame his career never took off. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 16:50 |
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Just finished watching everything except Legend of the Rangers.... I couldn't get through it. I loved the series but hated everything otherwise. None of the movies are even worth watching. I actually liked the the pilot more than the movies. I kind of wish they kept that scheming/conniving/evil bent to all the non-human species. Anyway, if you're watching the series I suggest not putting the movies in between any of the seasons because you might totally kill your momentum which is not worth it.
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Stark posted:Just finished watching everything except Legend of the Rangers.... I couldn't get through it. I loved the series but hated everything otherwise. None of the movies are even worth watching. I actually liked the the pilot more than the movies. I kind of wish they kept that scheming/conniving/evil bent to all the non-human species. In the beginning was really good. Also keeping the aliens like that would be stupid as one of the things was aliens were like people and their are good and evil in everyone.
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bobkatt013 posted:In the beginning was really good. Also keeping the aliens like that would be stupid as one of the things was aliens were like people and their are good and evil in everyone. Agreed. Every time science fiction tries to do "All this kind of alien is ____ while the blue ones are _____" it comes off as incredibly shallow and hackneyed. It's the whole species equivalent of a flat character. Instead they went the extra mile and gave each of the main species a suitably complex mix of good and bad in their individuals. I was particularly impressed with how they did the Minbari. Psychic space elves has SO been done before, but because of their internal intrigue and uh... anger management problems they come off as
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I can go with the other movies sucking, but if you didn't like In the Beginning I dunno what to say.
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bobkatt013 posted:In the beginning was really good. Also keeping the aliens like that would be stupid as one of the things was aliens were like people and their are good and evil in everyone. I disagree, but I have a less romantic notion of aliens than most sci-fi fans due to personal experience.
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his kingly woes posted:I disagree, but I have a less romantic notion of aliens than most sci-fi fans due to personal experience. Did I miss something or are you saying you've interacted with extraterrestrial life?
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Blindeye posted:Did I miss something or are you saying you've interacted with extraterrestrial life? Garibaldi was around aliens like, all the time man.
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his kingly woes posted:I disagree, but I have a less romantic notion of aliens than most sci-fi fans due to personal experience. Your best friend was an alien. He was the only one who tried to find you. Also be seeing you.
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his kingly woes posted:I disagree, but I have a less romantic notion of aliens than most sci-fi fans due to personal experience. Oh hey man, I've been looking for you. His Divine Shadow wants to see you ASAP.
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his kingly woes posted:I disagree, but I have a less romantic notion of aliens than most sci-fi fans due to personal experience. Are you the great-great-great-great-great grandfather of that guy that takes the Grey to court?
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Nathilus posted:Agreed. Every time science fiction tries to do "All this kind of alien is ____ while the blue ones are _____" it comes off as incredibly shallow and hackneyed. It's the whole species equivalent of a flat character. Instead they went the extra mile and gave each of the main species a suitably complex mix of good and bad in their individuals. I was particularly impressed with how they did the Minbari. Psychic space elves has SO been done before, but because of their internal intrigue and uh... anger management problems they come off as Green. GREEN!!!!!
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seaborgium posted:Green. GREEN!!!!! Purple
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^^^ e:f;bseaborgium posted:Green. GREEN!!!!! Purple!
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Grand Fromage posted:Garibaldi was around aliens like, all the time man. Did not see the avatar, also GREEN
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| # ? Feb 10, 2012 04:09 |
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So I was watching the launch trailer for Mass Effect 3 and I had an idea based on the premise that that game has some similarities with B5. I think it turned out rather well. Just make sure to mute the trailer's sound for the proper experience. Oh, and spoilers for bits of ME3, obviously.
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After re-watching, I have come to the conclusion that either Season 1 was written by JMS and the rest were ghostwritten by someone else, or vice versa. The writing in Season 2 is ridiculously better than Season 1 and I cannot figure out why.
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Bondage posted:After re-watching, I have come to the conclusion that either Season 1 was written by JMS and the rest were ghostwritten by someone else, or vice versa. Season 2 is when he started to write all the episodes. Season 1 is when he had other writers.
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| # ? Mar 14, 2012 00:15 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Season 2 is when he started to write all the episodes. Season 1 is when he had other writers. I believe he wrote most of season 2 and literally every episode in 3 and 4, which is an insane thing that no one else has ever done. Maybe it was all three. Five had some guest writers like Neil Gaiman.
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Grand Fromage posted:I believe he wrote most of season 2 and literally every episode in 3 and 4, which is an insane thing that no one else has ever done. Maybe it was all three. Five had some guest writers like Neil Gaiman. Ya they had some guest writers in those seasons like Neil Gaiman and Peter David
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Grand Fromage posted:I believe he wrote most of season 2 and literally every episode in 3 and 4, which is an insane thing that no one else has ever done. Maybe it was all three. Five had some guest writers like Neil Gaiman. I think "Knives" in season 2 was the last episode NOT written by JMS until season 5.
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Bondage posted:After re-watching, I have come to the conclusion that either Season 1 was written by JMS and the rest were ghostwritten by someone else, or vice versa. In addition to JMS writing all the scripts starting with season 3 (with exceptions as noted above), he wasn't even script editor on the first season. In theory, that meant that tension between the JMS version of characters and the Larry DiTillio version of the same characters would allow them to develop in interesting ways. In practice, most of their voices from the very first were in JMS' head and not in anyone else's. Nothing against DiTillio, who's done some great work and who appears to have introduced JMS to Call of Cthulhu. But I think a lot of the unevenness of the first season is down to the writing of the main characters lacking the consistency of the later seasons, which in turn makes it much harder for the actors to figure out how to play them. Poor Franklin suffers particularly, as he's a science-exposition guy some of the time and seems to behave a little differently every time he gets the spotlight. Ivanova is almost as bad off, as she gets to be second-in-command and Russian and not much else initially. It's not unusual on these shows for the human characters to be given less background and characterization at first in comparison to the non-humans...
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Nathilus posted:Seconding Farscape. It's a bit weird and campy in an incongruous way and the story isn't nearly as well planned or executed as B5, but it's a fun show. Keep in mind it doesn't have much fate of the galaxy politics in it, it's just a halfway serious space romp. That's not to say the poo poo doesn't go down, it does. The best part of Farscape is watching the sanity of the main character spiral around the galactic toilet bowl. The dude goes crazy as gently caress, and it turns out that's one of his biggest assets. It's really neat to watch a pretty wisecracking normal guy at the start of the series turn into a full blown nutcase who's so crazy the whole of known space knows it.  "HUMANS ARE SUPERIOR!"
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ATP_Power posted:The best part of Farscape is watching the sanity of the main character spiral around the galactic toilet bowl. The dude goes crazy as gently caress, and it turns out that's one of his biggest assets. It's really neat to watch a pretty wisecracking normal guy at the start of the series turn into a full blown nutcase who's so crazy the whole of known space knows it. In Star Trek it always struck me how the characters seem to ignore the immensity of the constant shitstorms they go through. Another thing Farscape did right is to get the attitudes of the characters right. They go from exasperation about the constant crazy poo poo they have to deal with to resignation and finally into all out "gently caress it" mode. It had a hell of a hard and extremely troll ending originally, though. Rocks fall everyone dies. I couldn't loving believe it when I first saw it. Thankfully the miniseries has fixed that issue.
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Nathilus posted:In Star Trek it always struck me how the characters seem to ignore the immensity of the constant shitstorms they go through. Another thing Farscape did right is to get the attitudes of the characters right. They go from exasperation about the constant crazy poo poo they have to deal with to resignation and finally into all out "gently caress it" mode. What do you mean. The ending was John and ayron frozen then shattered. Also they did not know until too late that they were canceled
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bobkatt013 posted:What do you mean. Also they did not know until too late that they were canceled "Rocks fall everyone dies" is an RPG saying. It happens when the GM gets pissed off and suddenly murders all the characters with a situation they have no chance of avoiding. That's EXACTLY what happens at the end of the main series. I know about the cancelling issue now, but I didn't then. At the time it just seemed like a ginormous middle finger.
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I've got a friend coming over tonight who seems willing to finally watch some Babylon 5. This is great because I know that if she gets into it she'll really dig it. So obviously, the wrong thing to do is to start her out with either the pilot or the first episode, or probably anything in the first season. I kind of wanted to show her "Dust to Dust" but that might be giving away too much too soon, I just think she'd really like the turns G'Kar takes during the season especially. Any suggestions?
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Hmmm... "In the Beginning" might make a great setup for the series, but it's got some spoilers. Do you have time to watch that and decide if it's too much or too little? You know what, I'll watch that now and tell you. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2012 around 13:50 |
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Elim Garak posted:I've got a friend coming over tonight who seems willing to finally watch some Babylon 5. This is great because I know that if she gets into it she'll really dig it. So obviously, the wrong thing to do is to start her out with either the pilot or the first episode, or probably anything in the first season. I kind of wanted to show her "Dust to Dust" but that might be giving away too much too soon, I just think she'd really like the turns G'Kar takes during the season especially. "Signs and Portents" "Babylon Squared" "Mind War" - Bester
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Hmmm... "In the Beginning" might make a great setup for the series, but it's got some spoilers. Do you have time to watch that and decide if it's too much or too little? Big, game-changing spoilers for two characters. My recommendation is to avoid it until Season 4.
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"Signs and Portents" sounds good. I was also thinking "Comes The Inquisitor." It doesn't give much away except John and Delenn are important for the coming war, right?
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Elim Garak posted:"Signs and Portents" sounds good. I was also thinking "Comes The Inquisitor." It doesn't give much away except John and Delenn are important for the coming war, right? Signs also has Mr Morden asking what do you want
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