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Does anyone have the list of "essential S1 episodes" handy? I'm starting a rewatch and I want to cut the fat.
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Jun 19, 2010 08:34
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So I just rewatched episode 7, "The War Prayer", and Sinclair brings up something that I don't feel is ever resolved in the series. In "The Gathering", the Sinclair look alike slaps a patch on Kosh's hand that poisons him (if I am remembering correctly). When I saw this, I instantly took issue with it because it was so out of character for a vorlon to expose itself like that. In "The War Prayer", Sinclair wonders how it was possible for the poison to get into Kosh's suit. Now, if you've seen the pilot, you know that Kosh literally sticks his hand out. This is weird because if you watch the series first, you know that the vorlons are not friendly, warm, or open like that. Shaking hands is beneath them. Sinclair is right in that it doesn't make sense when you look at it from this perspective for Kosh to have been so easily poisoned. So, my question is, how much of The Gathering is canon? Was Sinclair's remark supposed to be a retcon because JMS realized that it doesn't make sense for Kosh to shake hands with Sinclair? Or, are we supposed to take things at face value? Was Kosh just that much more trusting before and after the assassination attempt he stopped taking any risks whatsoever and Sinclair just missed out on his chance to shake Kosh's hand? It seems like a weird inconsistency.
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Jun 20, 2010 11:37
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In a broad sense, it's about the ongoing theme of no one on B5 being what they appear. This started in the previous episode with G'Kar saving Catharine and continues into this episode with Londo helping the young kids who wanted to get married. Ivanova was theorizing that Kosh's suit may have nothing at all to do with the environment and may just be a smoke and mirrors show to confuse the lesser races. In context of the episode, Sinclair had just had a conversation about the human attacks on aliens with Kosh. He meets up with Ivanova in the CIC and brings up something that had been bothering him since that conversation, and that's that Kosh was poisoned through his hand, which doesn't make a lick of sense to Sinclair. Edit: JMS really wanted to make a ton of callbacks to the pilot I guess. Episode 7 also opens with Garibaldi and Ivanova fighting over who has to take custody of the Centauri runaways. Garibaldi threatens to kill Ivanova's coffee plants to get her to do what he wants, which is exactly what happened between Garibaldi and Boomer. Atlas Hugged fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jun 20, 2010 |
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Jun 20, 2010 13:46
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tastychicken posted:Garibaldi and Boomer? That military chick from GROPO? I'm confused. Who is Boomer? Hard Clumping posted:(But seriously, the lady in the B5 pilot and the lady who played Boomer in BSG are both godawful overactors and deserve that comparison) Yeah, this is the comparison I was going for. I am fairly certain that the only reason why either of them was cast was because "nerds like Asian women". Action Jackson posted:The scene where Takashima talks about coffee was cut from the pilot when it was originally broadcast, and JMS decided to reuse the idea with Ivanova. The scene was reinstated in the version released on DVD. Interesting. I didn't know the original was different. Vincent Van Goatse posted:And I need to hear about it. It will always be better in your head than on paper or film. "This is a nice ship you've got here," Chief Engineer Tyrell whispered. Garibaldi smiled as his hand combed through the big man's chest hair. "Let me show you how we make gravity in space."
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Jun 23, 2010 01:42
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Is it wrong that I've spent the last several minutes giggling like an idiot picturing Londo saying, "Mr. Gauis Balter!"
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Jun 23, 2010 02:30
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The Big One posted:Depends on what you mean by essential. For purely story arc, I would go with: 1, 8, 13, 18, 19, 20, and 22. I've been trying to stick to this, but it's really tough because each episode has a couple of rather important details. I think TKO is really the only episode you can totally skip without missing anything at all. Also, you're insane if you skip episode 21 because of 
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Jun 27, 2010 16:34
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tastychicken posted:The Pakmara? I meant Londo.
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Jun 28, 2010 02:02
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I just realized that that has the same plot as the new episode of Futurama, and it's just as creepy, too.
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Jun 28, 2010 09:01
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I think it's more accurate to say that the vorlons and shadows preferred to fight proxy wars against each other every 1000 years than to directly engage one another in all out war.
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Jun 30, 2010 10:50
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