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The protagonists fighting a war against Earth is just something you never see in sci-fi shows and I love it for that.spe posted:I had more investment in the disk haired guys (e:centauri)planet than I did Earth. Lycus fucked around with this message at Jun 19, 2010 around 00:29 |
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It's been a long time since I've seen Season 1, but in retrospect, I figured that that was some early setup for a Delenn/Sinclair relationship that ultimately became the Delenn/Sheridan relationship.
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Milky Moor posted:Of course, knowing the Vorlons, having Kosh play dead could be in their inscrutible plans. Why did they bring it up? What importance did it serve to that episode's plot?
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Hard Clumping posted:Oh god is there video of this? This sounds loving hysterical http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dh5nbwmLko#t=3m12s
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tastychicken posted:To many cuts to footage of the two captains shouting 'Fire', only it was muted so we only could hear the lovely replacement music.
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Jedi posted:You can skip Soul Hunter as well. I know the Soul Hunters themselves tie in later, but it's really irrelevant. Terrible, terrible episode.
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| # ¿ Jun 27, 2010 22:18 |
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bobkatt013 posted:I am rewatching the series for the third time and I am still getting enjoyment out of it. Like little things that happen in the first episode that are important part of the series. I also wonder how different the series would have been if Sinclair stayed. It is obvious that his wife would have taken the Anna role, but would he have also married Delenn? Would the last episode have been him dying then going back in time? I have no idea if JMS mentioned this or if Sinclair being replaced was part of the series bible. http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=53739
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Daimo posted:1) Wierd combat system - Totally unexpected and new it pretty much blew my mind, but it can't be very efficiant when it comes to input response time can it? Lycus fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2010 around 01:39 |
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"Bureau 13" would be one example, right? I think he basically just dropped it after one episode and had PsyCorp absorb his story plans for it.
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Did anyone else simply hate the Minbari Civil War storyline? I remember it as being my least favorite part of Season 4. It didn't feel remotely as important as it should've been, and it was ended in the dumbest, most boring way possible.
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Hard Clumping posted:I think that'd be a little contrived and convenient despite the cool plot elements it would bring up, and the show was teetering on being ridiculously convenient as it was, especially with the movies. In "In the Beginning," all the characters are so intertwined, and for no real reason, it kinda ruined the experience for me. Of course, that's similar to how they used his character in the latter seasons of the main series. He was the "spare main character". As the show moved further away from crises of the week, and more toward the politics and war, a doctor as a main character was becoming less useful. So he would always get sent along on storylines that really had nothing to do with his character or being a doctor, merely because all the other main characters were busy, and they just needed something for him to do. Lycus fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2010 around 05:53 |
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V-Men posted:I disagree. I think it speaks more the notion of civilizations like the Minbari who believe they can do no wrong, internal tension that is only suppressed through mysterious judgments by a government with which no one has any dealings, and really a government who had forgotten who they were governing for. It took a civil war to remind their leaders why they fought and sacrificed and it was for those who built their society (the Worker caste) who even Delenn said had become forgotten in the struggle for control between the Religious and Warrior castes.
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Yeah, a Minbari Civil War should've felt like an absolutely humongous event. And it just didn't to me. I understand the "message", but as a story it was a blip. And the Starfire Wheel thing was frickin' stupid.
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Queej posted:Also, I cannot get past Delenn's makeup/prosthetics in season 2+. The bone ridge looks like a headband, NOT a piece of her skull. Her hair seems to go underneath it. Delenn has a handle.
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I figure that the permanent inhabitants wouldn't be paying "taxes" exactly, but rental fees for their living quarters and, for the business owners, space for their business. Anyway, I thought the point here was that commercial activity at B5 was dying off, so obviously the 250,000 people would've left over time.
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Let's put this simply. Over the course of 20 years: 1) People stopped going there. 2) With not enough people coming to trade and buy food and poo poo, businesses stopped making money and folded. 3) Now there were no jobs available, so the permanent residents went somewhere else to find jobs. 4) Babylon 5 is now a humongous ghost town with only an EarthGov presence.
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It's not unlike the complaints of not seeing enough of civilian fleet life in BSG. But in both cases, it just wasn't the focus of the story.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Well, the Narn are a bit ahead (they have artificial gravity, and their fighters, like Centauri and Minbari, can "bank," which is technically impossible in space, but I think the in-universe explanation has something to do with projecting mini gravity wells or something, I don't know.) Hey, was it ever explicitly stated that Earth was relatively remotely located? I figure that would explain how we avoided being resource-raped by the Centauri during their empire years, like the Narn and the League worlds were. And how we were able to acquire so many colonies in our vicinity. Lycus fucked around with this message at Jan 13, 2011 around 10:32 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Telepathy is actually one of the things that I'd have as an example of what I said, rather than the opposite. It didn't evolve naturally, it was genetically engineered by a higher technology.
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Doctor Zero posted:Maybe. It's at least an attempt to ground it instead of just going WOOO MAGIC POWERS.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I did say grounded out of the programmes mentioned. It's obviously not hard scifi but there is a lot more care and attention paid to scientific details than there is in the other franchises mentioned (Star Trek, Star Wars, BSG). And the fact that Babylon 5 includes a little magi-science doesn't negatively impact my opinion of the show. Lycus fucked around with this message at Jan 13, 2011 around 23:56 |
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I think the only thing I would accept as a "grounded sci-fi" example of telepathy would be through the use of neural implants. Anything else is magi-science.
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I just didn't dig any of the characters at all. B5 at least had some great characters to get you through it's shaky first season. Also, making Call to Arms as a sorta-pilot was a really bad idea. Lycus fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2011 around 10:32 |
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She'd like to wreck the homes of everybody in the entire galaxy.
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| # ¿ Jan 21, 2011 09:15 |
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FISHMANPET posted:Do not remember this, which ep? There's also a Londo action figure in it.
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| # ¿ Jan 23, 2011 00:08 |
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Habibi posted:Facebook wall photo archive to the rescue! Habibi posted:Yes, Sheridan. And you know, I never noticed before, but it looks like Marcus aka Sheriff of Nottingham is giving the British 'V' sign. Lycus fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2011 around 23:13 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Babylon 5: HOLY poo poo BESTER I really feel as though Bester should've got his comeuppance within the series proper. I don't think JMS should've saved that for the post-series material.
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What exactly was the point of making Lochley yet another ex-wife of Sheridan's? In other words, what was the story-importance? I learned to ignore that character so well, I've forgotten all the details.
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white quilt posted:Yayyyy, Byron's dead!
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| # ¿ Jan 31, 2011 07:13 |
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Wait, so as a newcomer I'm supposed to start with "Midnight on the Firing Line" instead of "The Gathering"?
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| # ¿ Feb 1, 2011 14:56 |
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Yeah, the only way the events of the pilot make sense to me is if I assume that the Vorlons staged most of it (but I haven't really put enough thought into it to know if that interpretation is viable or not, and it's been a long, long, long, long time since I've watched it anyhow).
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Honestly, I wasn't a big fan of that episode in general. "Rising Star" would've been a fine season finale.
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| # ¿ Feb 20, 2011 18:39 |
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Just to also be a backseat writer: I think the only thing that I wish he had done differently was the Minbari Civil War. That truncated storyline was the worst part of Season 4 for me. I think I would've rather had the Warrior Caste win during that season and rule an isolated Minbar for a year, then resolve it during early Season 5, without the stupid wheel thing. I mean, I understand why he wanted to get it done and over with before the Earth Civil War arc. He wanted the Minbari to be involved in the liberation of Earth and be one of the founders of the ISA. But the way the storyline itself was handled still bugged me and seemed like the biggest victim of the story compression. Lycus fucked around with this message at Mar 1, 2011 around 10:53 |
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alby mangels posted:Unrelated to anything, but it's a minor pet peeve of mine that in sci-fi aliens' homeworlds are always the same name as the species, and I had hoped that B5 would be the only show to rise above it, but no, we get Narn, Minbar, and Centauri Prime. At least Z'ha'dum wasn't Shadowland. Well, officially referring to humans as "Terrans" is semi-common in sci-fi too. I always thought it would be best if "human" was the translation of what every species historically called itself. So every sapient species is human, but we are specifically Terran.
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Hard Clumping posted:I only see four..... it's Centauri cleavage.
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| # ¿ Mar 31, 2011 02:22 |
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Binary Badger posted:I remember that in one episode, Morden was pretty messed up and said something about his 'associates' being able to replace flesh, although 'they' didn't seem to think he was worth the bother of making his recovery less painful.
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Nyo posted:Which B5 incarnation is the one with the ridiculous "look at me do a flip then a punch then the ship fires" scene?
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his kingly woes posted:the vulernability from firing the main guns was a cool idea,
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