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NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


I haven't finished the series (Most of the way through Season 5). The only thing I skipped throughout the whole series wasn't an episode. It was in S-1 or 2 when Ivonava did some embarrassing hookie dance so she didn't have to gently caress some Ambassador. Beyond Cringe worthy.

Other than that I can now see why this series was amazing and I feel bad for not giving it a chance all those many years ago.

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NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


I can't escape it!

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Hard Clumping posted:

Happy to see this thread risen from the dead, I love reading discussion about this show.

A friend of mine and I are slowly drudging through the series whenever he and i can get to a machine with netflix at the same time (i have a Roku so we're using that as much as possible.)

We're only 3-4 episodes in, and I was worried about showing him Soul Hunter. I warned him that it was pretty bad. Afterwards though he said "That was not nearly as bad as some of the worse episodes on Galactica (Scar) or Farscape."

I don't think I've completely sold him on the show yet, but maybe once we get to the first Babylon 4 episode he'll start to like it.

Soul Hunter was brought up in the Trek thread, but I didn't think it was all that bad. It had a neat little ending. I hear there's a movie with Martin Sheen about Soul Hunters that should be feared. I can't wait to see it.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


mllaneza posted:

Which of dozens of examples finally convinced you of this ? (I don't remember which one happened first)

He makes up for... being responsible for bombing the Narn into yesterday... sorta. V V

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


mllaneza posted:

So "And the Rock Cried Out..." then ? Fantastic episode.

Which season was that?

I was thinking more along the lines of Londo being cool with J'karr by the end of the series and helping him a bunch. Though I haven't finished season 5 so I'm not sure if he fucks that up too. So far it doesn't look like it.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


I got it.

Goddamn, this show rules.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Sorry, fellas, new to the franchise. I've also been painting a lot while watching, so I'm ususally looking away while the title shows. I guessed Londo's spelling so give me credit there.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


So I convince myself that Lyta Alexander is played by the same woman who is the girlfriend in Return of the Living Dead 2 and Killer Clowns from Outer Space. Upon being proved wrong by IMDB I immediately look into the woman who plays Delenn (Mira Furlan) and promptly that she played Danielle Rousseau on Lost.

Also, am I wrong that during the early season customs agent scenes that some 90s comedians show up and throw something out from their act while complaining about their crap being searched? I suspected it and nearly got confirmation when Penn and Teller pretty much got their own subplot.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Ensign_Ricky posted:

Just read the whole thread and was inspired to start rewatching the whole series.

On A Voice in the Wilderness Part 1, two thoughts:

The news about the Martian civil war reports someone saying that the sands of Mars will "run red with Earther blood." Sure it sounds cool...but isn't that a little redundant?

Second, Londo's rant against the Hokey Pokey is loving epic.

HAHA! I actually thought exactly the same thing when I first saw that. I'm just glad they didn't say "The red sands of Mars...".

Also, pretty much everything Londo says makes me smile, even though overall I don't think I'm supposed to really like him.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


FairGame posted:

You're not supposed to like Londo? Him and G'Kar are the 2 best characters in the whole show.

I'm guessing because he doesn't lift a finger when it comes to genocide? I will stand by your statement that they are definitely the best characters on the shoe.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Pretty far (season 5), but I tend to forget things I know he's made up for it all. I'm still bitter about the Narn homeworld I suppose. It's hard for me to forgive a character for shaking hands with a man, making amends, and then go and bomb his home.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


neongrey posted:

The thing about Londo, I think, is that you're supposed to like him, but you're also supposed to feel somewhere on the scale of 'vaguely uncomfortable' to 'bad' that you do like him.

This describes my feelings towards him perfectly. To me, that's a sign of a well written character.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Just saw the last episode of B5. It's as if the last three episodes could have been finales. THAT'S how you wrap up a series.

Is Crusade worth a shot?

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Hard Clumping posted:

This sweater:



Oh man. Oh man oh man.



First two suggested B5 movies are in the mail. Pretty excited.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Holy crap Thirdspace was really awesome. If you like Sheriden you'll love what he does in this one.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Habibi posted:

Facebook wall photo archive to the rescue!



Please tell me this was done for the Cons. poo poo, I missed out.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


bobkatt013 posted:

It was Robert Foxworth in the Star Trek episode Homefront and Paradise Lost and Babylon 5 episodes Points of Departure and All Alone in the Night

HAHA! I did notice that. Wasn't he on B5 first though? I thought I remember him in an early episode.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


I definitely got choked up now that I think about it. drat.

This reminds me, did B5 have ANY continuity problems? I think I remember G'kar had an eyepatch when he choked Londo to death in the future but he could have had it again for any number of reasons.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


He definitely had the dignified grey look going for him, too.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


mllaneza posted:

Then again, there was that scene in a bunker on some doomed colony, civilians and families hiding out and one guy gets up, leaves his crying wife and goes out to buy them a few more minutes. That sure looked like "everybody on this rock is gonna die" to me. And it certainly means Minbari ground troops were deployed, the warrior caste always did like to get up close and personal.

I'm going into super speculative mode here. They probably still didn't kill the civvies even though the civilians acted like they would. If a giant army was attacking your planet, wouldn't you act like they were going to kill everyone especially if they came out of nowhere like the Minbari did.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


He was pretty great as Harvey Birdman.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


micnato posted:

I need some words of encouragement. I hear season 3 is amazing, and I am excited about 5-season story arcs and whatnot, but I'm halfway through season 1 and it just feels like work. I feel like I should like this show, and I really want to, but I don't care about any of the characters and the acting is SO loving BAD. I can't wait for Sheridan to go die or whatever happens to him. Do I need to just face the possibility that this show is not for me? Should I just skip ahead and watch a few season 3 episodes and see what I think?

Season 1 was a little much for me as well, but it grew on me especially in the latter half. Sinclair (who I assume you meant. It doesn't help that they both have eight letter names that start with S) really grew on me and I was shocked when he high tailed it. You'll love Sheridan a lot more I think. I remember liking him from the first episode he was in.

I think it might be time for me to give the series my first Re-watch. I think I might skip the Pilot this time around.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


The CGI kind of grew on me and wasn't much of a problem later on.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Those friends are dumb. IMO, movies and even TV that used models hold up visually these days.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Daimo: No, I meant the models of the ships, so we're on the same page. A great example of a wonderful model shot is when you first see the Sulaco go by the camera. Though it looks like a shotgun in space, it has parts to it that is obviously supposed to make it look like a large slow lumbering space ship. Maybe I'm too old school but physical models have always looked better to me than a lot of CG nowadays.

NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


Pooned posted:

Bad Cgi? What in the gently caress. Take that back


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSa6Zl8fcyo

The many battles and awesome variety of ships during the series made me give no fucks about the CG. It ended up being amazing overall.

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NecronSchmecron
Apr 28, 2009

Ah, phooey!


I was going through my second run of the series when I saw it was going July 1st.

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