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How many of you have had success with getting paid internships? I was talking to a recruiting federal jobs recruiting representative and she said that most of them aren't listed on the USA jobs website.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2010 00:05 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:32 |
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dvgrhl posted:When you say internships, are you meaning STEP positions? I started as a STEP, then was converted to a SCEP, then offered a full-time position upon graduation. I got an e-mail from my school's career development department with the job posting. It was sent in by a former graduate who worked there. Yeah, this is what I'm interested in. Did you get the offering from the career development office, or was that only after you were an intern?
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2010 05:15 |
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Going to a government and NGO job fair on Monday hunting for internships. On a side note, it looks like the CIA is fiendishly recruiting college grads this year.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2010 18:10 |
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suboptimal posted:Is this a school-specific job fair, or can anyone attend? I just moved to DC and I'd like to start my in-person job hunt. This particular one is school-specific, however I do know that they have open house job fairs all the time in D.C., particularly at GWU. There was also a big one recently at UVA.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2010 16:27 |
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Nessus posted:Any/all grads? When they came to my school in Houston they were quite open that they were only really interested in native speakers of foreign tongues. They're recruiting the poo poo out of our Latin American and Iberian Studies majors for their foreign media intelligence section. I just so happen to be one, so they've been hitting me up.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2010 03:38 |
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Learned a surprising amount about the GAO today. Might have to look them up in the future if my current plan doesn't work out.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2010 23:41 |
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Kase Im Licht posted:Oh I'm not under any delusions that this step means its going any farther. I'm just excited to have made it somewhere new. Other than apps where they're looking for very basic qualifications and then sending you on to some sort of test, I've never got a positive response back. From talking with several people knowledgeable of the hiring processes, it looks like applying through USA Jobs is the hardest possible way to get hired. Have you tried applying to any FCIP positions? They're significantly harder to find because there's usually no published information on them, however this also decreases the number of applications substantially and usually results in a lot more human interaction with your resume.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2010 18:49 |
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Zoo posted:I just hope we get a miracle and it passes in the lame duck so we can avoid any FY11 slicing in the new Congress; that could delay us past January. It wouldn't surprise me if the current Congress went ahead and passed most of the funding bills before recess as a parting "gently caress you" to the incoming Congress. If that's not the case, I wouldn't expect them to pass anything until after January as the fiscally conservative house goes hack and slash on the budget.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2010 23:22 |
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A hiring freeze would certainly ruin my day.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2010 22:41 |
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Yeah, that's all they're talking about. The 2011 rates were going to be 1% higher than 2010, so we're really not talking serious money here that we're losing anyway: like $25-50 a paycheck pre-tax True, but you have to take inflation into consideration. It's been low recently, however the Fed is trying to change that.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2010 06:01 |
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says congress approves their own annual pay raise.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2010 14:32 |
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Apparently the GOP is pushing to have the funding issue resolved this term. This is kind of surprising, considering one would have expected them to wait until they can do whatever they want with it next term.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2010 18:17 |
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menpoop posted:I obviously have no idea if yall are talking from positions where you'd know this for certain, but this is really unreasonable. These things were literally on the front page of major international newspapers and have been talked about on CNN endlessly. Just loading the Guardian or NYTimes websites would have netted you some information about the cables. The OPM stated that it's fine for employees to read news articles about information released on WikiLeaks, however they are to respect the classification status of the actual documents themselves. In other words, they don't want federal employees to view the documents directly.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2010 05:09 |
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BP should be a shoe in, though, since they had their budget increased substantially (well, theoretically).
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2010 00:06 |
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Ugh, good God the federal hiring process is so slow compared to the civilian world.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2010 02:34 |
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Well I'll be damned. Got the phonecall to schedule my interview today.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2010 17:13 |
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Made it past the phone interview! Now I have to do one face to face in DC in January.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 20:23 |
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chuchumeister posted:That being said, is there some way I can continue to apply for these jobs and be considered despite not actually living there at the moment? :/ Are you sure it was because of your geographic location? Otherwise, I think it depends entirely upon the agency. When I did my phone interview with the DA for this FCIP position they told me that they were flying in people from all over the country and putting them up in DC for the final round of interviews in January.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2010 07:50 |
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Weird. Don't know what to tell you other than try reapplying when you actually move to NY maybe?
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 08:33 |
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God damnit, my personal interview got cancelled because the OPM revised their guidelines for hiring this far in advance for FCIP positions. e: At least I have a hit from the DHS. psydude fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 29, 2010 |
# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 20:10 |
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IndyPunkOne posted:Might have also had something to do with this? God loving drat it. All of the offers I got were for FCIP positions; unless the agencies can come up with another alternative this pretty much kills any chance I had of getting hired by the federal government. Thank Zeus I applied to private companies as well. e: As someone mentioned earlier: "The order is expected to be fully implemented within a year, the official said." Yeah, that doesn't exactly help me or anyone else applying right now. I might as well volunteer for a deployment to Afghanistan after OBC at this rate. At least then I'd get a damned 5 point veteran preference. psydude fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Dec 30, 2010 |
# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 08:30 |
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Yeah, I'll figure something out, but it's just highly frustrating and inconvenient because I pretty much already had one job offer locked down with another two on the way and now I have to look to the private sector. Any organization that seeks a profit is automatically a thousand times more of a pain in the rear end to apply to.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 08:47 |
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I think you've got it backwards, I can't think of any private company that is as much of a pain in the rear end to apply to as a federal government job. The federal government is just loving slow. Otherwise they have a centralized application website and once you get set up it's really easy to apply to poo poo, even if you're doing it through email (a la FCIP). Every private company you apply to has a different application process, different requirements (for similar positions), and can take anywhere from 2 days to 2 months to respond. Now, if you're applying to an intelligence agency then holy poo poo yeah it's a pain in the rear end.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 18:59 |
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Every agency I applied to was handled by the application manager (which doesn't support Chrome) with the exception of the CIA, which understandably used a completely separate system.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 19:33 |
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Skandiaavity posted:You may be in luck, though, since they're looking for Collectors: https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportunities/clandestine/core-collector.html This looks like it's probably the single most dangerous job you could possibly have in the CIA.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2011 21:29 |
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Has anyone heard exactly what the timeline for the implementation of the new hiring programs is? I spoke with someone who works with the OPM and she said it was up to the individual agencies, but I'm guessing there's a no later than date, too.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2011 02:22 |
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Pompous Rhombus posted:From the executive order, I didn't see any deadline to set it up, just a concrete end for the FCIP in March 2011. They'd better hurry, otherwise they're going to miss the boat on this year's graduating seniors. Although, I have seen federal agencies listed at future career fairs this semester, so maybe some of them are planning on having it squared away by then.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2011 06:15 |
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Might be, although the new set of recruiting programs is supposed to be up and running within a year per the article that was posted a while back.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2011 19:03 |
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Xandu posted:Now that I think about it, most of the people I know who got in as contractors had had some prior experience with the government, usually internships. A lot of the gov internships don't transfer directly to federal employment because of hiring rules, so they end up as contractors. The only entry-level contracting jobs I can find require an active TS/SCI with full polygraph. It's making my active secret clearance self-conscious.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2011 23:42 |
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I think it's kind of dumb that they give you the scholarship and then don't actually reserve a job for you. I mean, the military also gives out ROTC scholarships with the stipulation that you fulfill your service requirement or pay it back, but they don't give out more scholarships than they have positions available.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2011 20:11 |
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I've seen a lot of defense contractors hiring arab linguists.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2011 02:32 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Are there any paid internship programs left? The problem with so much of the entry level being replaced by interns is that it makes it impossible for poor people to get these jobs. Even before I had student loans to pay I couldn't possibly live in DC for months without getting paid. I've seen several, although most of them were for public corporations. Some of the law enforcement and intelligence agencies do a co-op scholarship/internship program that pays for your schooling and gives you a paid internship in the summer. I know the CIA does this for certain - you do two summers with them as a paid intern and when you're done you're basically guaranteed a job there. Pompous Rhombus posted:Yeah, I'm kind of locked outside the job/experience ouroboros. I wish I'd been more proactive in doing those unpaid internships (ugh) as an undergrad to get my foot in the door, but I spent so much time abroad there wasn't really a lot of opportunity :-\
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2011 20:02 |
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Zoo posted:I have not gone through this program, but few people seem to know about it and I do know five people--that number is precise, because I can recall names of PALACE ACQUIRE former interns-- who've had great success with it. I think it's a three-year program. While three of them are still "languishing" at ~GS/GG-11 a year after completion (not too bad however) and one is a -12 equivalent with a master's degree (could do better, could do worse), one required only nine years to land a senior position in a major intelligence agency, albeit part of that is testament to her capabilities. This isn't so much because the program is so good, I'd guess, but more just because it's a way to get your foot in the door and that's what matters. They seem to be a really good gig, though. Even if you only spend a few years with the federal government after you transition to permanent status, the amount of training and experience they give you (the DA one actually send its employees through Quartermaster/Transportation BOLC, including all of the FTXs) would make it incredibly easy to transition to another job in the private sector.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2011 23:04 |
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Hey, do you know where I can find information on those intelligence agency funded scholarships for grad school? I knew about the internships, but I haven't found anything on that.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2011 02:42 |
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I dunno, I think I'm done accepting scholarships with fine print. When I go back for my master's degree it's going to be in something that I really like (probably urban planning) and I'm using tuition assistance instead.
psydude fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jan 24, 2011 |
# ¿ Jan 24, 2011 05:13 |
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HiddenReplaced posted:Hiring freeze has been announced for DOJ and CDC. Hurray... HOR is cutting the budget to ribbons. Don't hold your breath.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2011 05:47 |
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I rounded up and they didn't seem to care.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2011 02:45 |
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Were you in the engineer regiment at all? They love combat engineers.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2011 06:32 |
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The engineer regiment does actually make use of degreed engineers in the form of officers at higher levels. That said, I don't think you should rejoin the Army just to get a job with USACE.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2011 02:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:32 |
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Is the TSA a good way to get your foot in the door for other federal investigation agencies?
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2011 05:23 |