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Crossbar posted:How well do clearances transfer between agencies? If I have a clearance from State but a job wants a DOD clearance am I out of luck? The best answer is "it depends". Some agencies will simply take your current agency's clearance and grant you one. Others will make you do the SF-86 shuffle and complete their own clearance. It's a safe bet that if you are upgrading when you transfer, they will do a new background on you. My agency is "lucky" in that most everyone else accepts ours. Really smooths out the transfer process for the myriad of coworkers I've seen leave over the last decade. Edit: prussian advisor posted:Can you be more specific about this? I imagine that 1811 type jobs would vary really widely based on the agency. There's a couple of forums on other websites for that. Asking is a thread in and of itself. Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jul 13, 2010 |
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grover posted:I'm sure they'll word the experience requirements so that they still exclude anyone who's not already in the IRS. They don't need to. It's perfectly legal to advertise for agency employees only.
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Jul 19, 2010 04:15
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Silent Nature posted:I just recently finally got a job offer with the Federal Government, which the position will be in Downtown DC. 200+ applications, 7 interviews, and 2 years on USAJOBS finally landed me one job offer that I only need to get my life started! I hope it was a final offer and not a conditional letter.....
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Silent Nature posted:They gave me an EOD of September 27, 2010 for my first day. They are doing my background check right now. Wouldn't it be wise for me to start on my relocation now rather than later? If it's a DOD position, make sure you're not being BRAC'd out to Fort Meade or Aberdeen in the next four years.
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GreenCard78 posted:Regarding the SF 86, I have no idea whether or not the paperwork has me down for a felony or a misdemeanor. Either way, I got probation before conviction (pbj?) for a misdemeanor and ended up not receiving a conviction and the charge dismissed. The crime was a felony (half a pound of weed) but my lawyer had the government prosecutor try us for misdemeanor possession + intent. Judge turned into into probation before judgment and then everything was dropped. You need to take a day off work, go to the courthouse and see what was entered into the record. Provide a certified court copy with your SF-86. Do the work for the investigator which will significantly speed up your process.
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Aug 18, 2010 04:07
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scavok posted:How does retirement transfer over from military to federal? I only plan on staying in the military for a total of 8 or 12 years, but at that point it's kind of stupid to not stay in for the retirement money at 20 years. From what I hear, you can "buy back" your service years when working for the federal government. What the hell does that mean? General FERS retirement information http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/index.asp I had 9 years military service. I had to pay a percentage of my total military pay. I'm under a special retirement coverage, so that 9 years adds on to the end of my retirement. If you're under regular retirement, once you pay the deposit to "buy back" the years, they count towards retirement. As soon as you join, they immediately count for leave accrual purposes. Annual leave accrual rates: http://www.opm.gov/oca/leave/html/ANNUAL.asp
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Sundae posted:
As an FYI for future jobs, agencies usually only pay if they are doing a one week "megahire" in regional locations. And with an interview request that they reimburse for travel, they will usually send you a package asking for your bank account info, preferred airport and lodging information. I wouldn't necessarily read one as anything having to do with the other. You could also ask for a FOIA or Privacy Act request for your applicant package as to why your interview was canceled. It's a new Fiscal Year, so maybe your FTE was eliminated and the announcement canceled.
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Stop posted:Does anyone know if there's any significant disadvantage to uploading a resume instead of creating one on the USAJOBs website? The USAJOBS resume format will make you insert all the poo poo that the govt wants you to give them such as veteran's preference, DOB, etc.
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11b1p posted:Wow filling out the SF86 is a pain in the rear end when you are 31 years old, and have worked a ton of part time jobs while going through college. only on section 13 after an hour lol Yeah, but after you do it the first time, it's cake to keep it updated. And you should keep it updated each time you or anyone you reference on there (such as relatives' addresses or former supervisors). Keep a current copy uploaded to your USAJOBS profile. It's always much easier to poo poo out an application that way because I've seen vacancies that were only posted for a week.
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BrainParasite posted:Anybody have some information about how to handle switching agencies? I'm working this hellish ~76 hours/week job (nights!) for the USDA. Umm, apply, get hired, transfer to new agency. If you don't take a break, then you keep all of your leave.
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jerman999 posted:What is the maximum grade I can come in as with a Master's degree (from a govt school) and a year or so of half-time experience in a field? Usually, a Masters starts you at GS-9.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Sheeeeit, closed now. Think I should bother putting it in the "Future Needs Resume Repository"? Can't hurt, I guess. Many agencies can't start processing applicants until they get the number of new hires for the upcoming fiscal year. I read somewhere that the selection rate for 1811 series jobs is around 10%, so have a backup plan.
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CherryCola posted:Well! This process is really movin' along! I got a call from the investigator for my hometown on Tuesday who said that he should be done there by the end of this week! I also know that someone talked to my peeps where I went to grad school, and I didn't get a call from them at all so I'm assuming that went smoothly. Was it a conditional offer letter? Sometimes agencies send those out if you've met all the basic requirements. It will state that the offer is pending certain things if it is.
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Chadula posted:So I have a question for the folks that did their drug test for a Secret or TS clearance. Was your drug tests standard urine? Or was it hair? I have a medical card in my State, but I feel that will not show enough "mitigation" (I plan on fully disclosing my use on the SF86). I'm planning on doing other treatments for my condition to help show I've quit and moved on (turned in my card and stopped using cannabis before I accepted the offer). Here is the standard boilerplate for SF-86 drug use. This is FBI's, but it's pretty standard: 1. Have you used marijuana at all within the last three years? 2. Have you used any other illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991) at all in the past 10 years? 3. Have you ever sold any illegal drug? 4. Have you ever used an illegal drug (no matter how many times or how long ago) while in a law enforcement or prosecutorial position, or in a position which carries with it a high level of responsibility or public trust? 5. Have you ever used any prescription drug in its original intended manner, but without the proper prescription or legal justification for use within one year (12 months) preceding the date of the preliminary application? 6. Have you ever used any prescription drug or used a legally obtained substance in a manner for which it was not intended within three years (36 months) preceding the date of the preliminary application for employment? Answering yes usually disqualifies you from further consideration for any job requiring any sort of clearance.
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Ramms+ein posted:Joshie Please tell us about nepotism in the USG. My father works for DHS at the ICE Headquarters and he has been absolutely worthless about helping me get my foot in the door. Who does he need to suck up to? HR? Probably because nepotism is illegal in accordance with 5 CFR, Part 310.
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fivetwo posted:Anyways, the 1811 is the greatest job in the world due to the high pay (be it 88k or 104k), M-F work week (generally), government car, law enforcement retirement, etc. etc. I'm going to guess that you are not an 1811 because you failed to mention: A - There are non-1811 job series out there with 25% AUO, LEO Retirement (FERS 12D) and, unlike with 1811's, no pay cap due to no FLSA exemption. B - 9-5 work week is the exception rather than the rule unless you're working something like IG/contract/procurement fraud. C - While the big agencies typically do give you a vehicle, many agencies only provide GOV's if you are a supervisor or some sort of duty response or have pool cars available. D - Yes, Federal FERS LEO retirement is earlier and higher than a non-LEO Fed employee, but it's at a much lower pension percentage than the old skool CSRS. Google New Jersey State Police's retirement pension. 65% after 25 years, maxing out at 70%. With FERS, it's more like low 40's. My point being that, as with any job, compare apples to apples when looking at one's perks, benefits, quality of life and retirement. Edit: Actually, you could be a 1811, but then I'd guess you're <1 year from your SCD and haven't seen the man behind the curtain or how the sausage is made at your agency. Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Feb 5, 2011 |
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grover posted:Existing contracts should not be impacted; they're contracts, and the government can't break it. Come on, don't you remember "convenience of the government" from your COTR classes? The Federal government can break contracts if they want at any time. http://library.findlaw.com/1999/Jan/1/241470.html A. Termination for Convenience of the Government Almost every government contract will contain some type of "Termination for Convenience" clause. This clause permits the Government to terminate the contract, at any time, without cause, when in "the Government's best interest". The right to terminate without cause arose from the Government's need to adapt acquisition needs -- and hence, the taxpayer's dollars -- to changes in situations and technologies. For example, a contract for continued production of a certain military weapon may be rendered unnecessary by the abrupt conclusion of a war. Or, Congress may refuse to fund an expensive new fighter aircraft because of the end of the Cold War. This typically applies to discretionary vice legislated spending though.
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CherryCola posted:Well, it looks like I'm not done freaking out. Again this government craziness is making me worried that my job won't come through after all...or at least not for a looong time. My friend who works for another three-letter says I should worry because "they wouldn't have paid for my clearance if they didn't really want me." I think the best way to deal with the wait for the hiring call is to give up completely. That way, it's a nice surprise if it actually does come through or you're already prepared for the disappointment of not getting a call. (Even us current Feds who are trying to lateral around are eagerly awaiting the FY 2011 budget so FTE hiring can begin again.)
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Stupid question: I finally got on USAJobs and when I apply for positions (using their resume builder, filling out the questionnaire), they often send me an email saying 'oh, by the way, you also need to send us a written resume and transcripts.' But they never say where. Where do I find out where to send these things? You can upload both to your documents. (Edit: Your USAJOBS documents in your profile.) Each vacancy is a unique snowflake in that some will take uploaded documents while others require you to fax it in with an autogenerated fax cover sheet. Ready the vacancy announcement and highlight every time it says "Submit _________ via ________". I uploaded my fresh sf-50 and other stuff today with my SSN redacted. Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Mar 21, 2011 |
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madkapitolist posted:Hhahaha holy poo poo, Im graduating in 3 months so I guess I shouldn't expect to hear from the FDIC by then. I'm going on month 15 after applying for a transfer to another agency. Like I said earlier, go on with your life and find non-Federal employment whenever you are applying for a Federal job. That way, it's a nice surprise when you get the final offer.
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Drewski posted:Hi folks! I'm a term Army civilian who's looking to transfer into a permanent status. I'm also a vet (served 1997-2003, honorable discharge) which is awesome for preference. I know I qualify for 5-point preference, but I *think* I qualify for VRA. If that's the case, I should be able to get a job non-competitively, which is awesome. I'm not disabled, but I did deploy to Yugoslavia for Operation Joint Forge and earned these medals: National Defense Service Medal, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, NATO Medal. http://www.fedshirevets.gov/job/vetpref/index.aspx Edit: If you qualify for 5 or 10 points, then you qualify for VRA. Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Apr 16, 2011 |
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Drewski posted:Yeah, basically VRA > VEOA and 10 points > 5 points. Also, VRA gives you additional merit procedures such as increased job protections during RIF and other stuff. VRA points do not apply for VEOA applications though. Edit: VEOA allows you to apply for jobs that have been closed or only for status candidates as well as ignore geographic limitations. Some more clarifications are provided here: http://www.opm.gov/faqs/topic/veterans/index.aspx Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Apr 16, 2011 |
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xbiffx posted:I know this process is long and difficult, but what jobs should I be looking at with a Finance degree from a state college? I regret not going Accounting, but I liked analysis! A job that interests you. If you're interested in finance, there are budget analysts galore. Procurement specialists are in demand now as well. Want to work outdoors? Become a park ranger.
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prussian advisor posted:Why the gently caress did they get rid of the FCIP program anyway? Still really confused about that decision. In short, because agencies were using it to bypass certain procedures (such as veterans preference) as well as hiring non-recent college graduates.
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NintyFresh posted:Had my interview with an agency this week through a hiring event. Now the long wait (they said about 4 weeks) to get a conditional offer or rejection. Conditional offer = several more months of nothing heard.
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NnamkcebNairb posted:Ohh okay. I had been told to look for GS7 jobs. That would explain why I haven't found anything I'm eligible for most things I've found. So GS05 jobs are the entry level positions. An easy way to think of this for a first time hire. 5 = bachelor's degree 7 = bachelor's degree (edit: with >3.something GPA) or a year of relevant experience 9 = master's degree or two years or more of specialized, directly related experience Evil SpongeBob fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Sep 18, 2011 |
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NnamkcebNairb posted:I'm aware that government jobs may take longer than other jobs but I can't find anything in the public sector with my experience and I feel I have a better chance here because I can stay with friends near DC, which gives me a big location/financial advantage, as far as out-of-state job searching goes. That's why im set ons federal job. I listed some of my experience a few posts above but I'd be willing to email my resume later, when I get home. Here's how to get a Federal job: 1 - Create a USAJOBS profile. Get a SF-86 ready to go. 2 - Apply to jobs that interest you. Get all excited and tell your friends. 3 - Now, forget you ever applied. Go out and get a private sector job job. (I'm a current Fed, applied in Dec 2009 for another job, passed the hiring panel April 2011 and will probably be waiting for the budget stuff to clear for several more months. My current job took me about 9-10 months from initial submission to hiring offer.) 4 - Receive a random phone call somewhere between 3-9 months after you're in your new private sector job. You are caught off guard and you ask the embarrassing question "What job is this for again?" 5 - Agonize over whether or not to do an initial interview for a job you may still not get (or the position gets cut or the vacancy gets cancelled). 6 - Start drinking. This will get you started since you need help coping if you get fired from your private sector job or just dealing with the everyday BS in your new Federal job. Also, there's a reason why Federal HR people don't take random resumes. The hiring process has to be above board (nepotism, etc.) and people have been disciplined and/or fired for hiring buddies through the backdoor process. While it's ok to network, your best bet is USAJOBS or whatever official process the agency has for vacancies.
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NintyFresh posted:I miss the ability to sort my past application status by agency/status/date updated. Right now it is just sorted by the application date only. They said they're working to bring the functionality back, but it sucks when I'm trying to find an old position description and I have to Ctrl+F every page to find it. I think it sucks that application status flushes after a few months. Considering I'm going on over two years with an active application for an agency transfer. It should flush after the normal hiring term of approximately 4.25 years.
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commissargribb posted:I started looking at USAJOBS about a month ago. I have about a year left on my 4 year business degree and just finished 10 years of military service. I'd REALLY like to get an entry position doing something along the lines of Human Resources or Office Management. Wait until USAJOBS has stopped making GBS threads itself. http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3gyL_story.html (Yeah, I'm a poo poo goon who can't do short links.)
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Kase Im Licht posted:
https://www.plansmartchoice.com/
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El Mike-o posted:
Probably not until a budget is signed. My agency isn't hiring anyone until a FY 2012 budget is passed.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Hey I was looking at some potential jobs to apply to on USAJOBS. I was wondering if any of you government goons out there might look at my resume tell me what I need to do to make it look better and any pointers on getting my foot in the door. PM if you have a few minutes to lend a hand, if you have to be acerbic that's fine. I don't know anyone in the government or anyone familiar with how to work the hiring mechanics in your favor so I really appreciate it. Maybe if you give a hint as to what field, goons in that job series might be able to help you with the all important resume keywords.
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KrazyAntix posted:I have a question for anybody that could help. In addition to what Grover says, now you can bid on status candidate only jobs. sbaldrick posted:does the US gov not let you bid into other departments? Transferring among agencies is no big deal nowadays.
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KrazyAntix posted:Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "status candidate only" job? Typically, veterans (with 5 or 10 points), current Federal employees and former Federal employees with status are the only ones who can apply for status (vice public) jobs. There are some weird rules if you're transferring from excepted to competitive status jobs. Anyone can apply to public jobs, but you have to be in one of the above groups to apply under status jobs. They can even be restricted to current agency employees only. If you're doing a USAJOBS advanced search, click on "yes" under applicant eligibility to see al jobs. And I did forget about the three year thing, but only because my agency's probationary period is over three years.
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Kase Im Licht posted:I at least got them to step me out to a 7-10 so my income isn't totally lovely, but being a GS-7 with a law degree is a little ridiculous and someone in my class told me they'd heard of people going for promotions 6 months in if they were qualified for them. However he was very short on details and didn't fill me with much confidence that he knew what he was talking about. All I can do is point you to the OPM education --> GS level guidelines. http://www.opm.gov/qualifications/policy/ApplicationOfStds-04.asp Edit: I don't know if you can succeed as typically I've only seen HR amend initial hiring GS grades for grad degrees completed after the hiring process began AND the vacancy was announced as the higher level. If your job was announced as up to GS-7, and you took it, good job trying to convince HR that they should bend the rules for you. If they wanted a GS-9, they would have bid it out as such. Then again, stranger things have happened.....
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Mons Hubris posted:Any USDA folks here? I've got a couple years of experience with my State Dept. of Ag, a JD from a top-30 law school and will soon an LLM in Food and Agriculture Law. There are some fairly high-up alums of the LLM program within USDA, so as far as I know it's decently respected. There don't seem to be any openings in the Office of General Counsel, but there are some nonlegal regulatory/policy-type jobs I've been looking at, particularly these: In my agency, we have people with JD's filling paralegal spots waiting for attorney-advisor spots to open. Apparently, a lot of experienced lawyers need jobs. As with any Federal job, apply, then forget you have ever applied until _____ months down the road when you get a request for an interview.
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Zero VGS posted:Thought I'd pop my head in this thread, since my current job in Healthcare IT is starting to stagnate. Clearances are only good for two years after you leave an agency or the military. I can't find the specific cite on the dss.mil website, but it is in the FAQ for clearancejobs.com.
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Primoman posted:I recently graduated in August 2011, earning my Bachelor's Degree in Criminal Justice. I've been actively looking for a job related to my field online, including USAJOBS, but so far very few opportunities have come up. First, my condolences on the CJ degree. What series are you looking under? 1800's? 0100's?
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Primoman posted:I would be willing to just give up getting a federal career altogether if my degree at least gives me an unrelated opportunity that pays a higher than average salary. The same friends who told me that a CJ degree does me no good to get a federal job also state that "just you having any kind of Bachelor's broadens your chances". A bachelors degree gets you GS-5, >3.6 GPA gets you a GS-7. Most entry level jobs do not care about your major. But that's to qualify. In the current job market, you will be competing against veterans, those with relevant experience and those holding masters degrees. Apply everywhere (it's free after all), wait a three years, then apply to those jobs for current Federal employees only.
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Primoman posted:I recently graduated in August 2011, earning my Bachelor's Degree in Criminal Justice. I've been actively looking for a job related to my field online, including USAJOBS, but so far very few opportunities have come up. Ok, I'm confused. Do you or do you not have a bachelors in CJ? Because I highly recommend you shitcan that major unless it's something you really, really are interested in.
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