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Quiet Feet posted:What exactly does it mean for a defense to have a 1-gap or 2-gap (or A-gap?) scheme? Something to do with plugging holes in the offensive line? gaps are denoted as such Line of Scrimmage TE-(CGap)-Tackle-(BGap)-Guard-(AGap)-Center-(AGap)-Guard-(BGap)-Tackle-(CGap)-TE Even numbers when you hear x-technique refer to a defensive lineman playing head up on an offensive lineman. Therefore, a 0 technique is a defensive lineman playing head up on a center, a 2 technique is head up on the guard, a 4 technique is head up on the tackle, and a 6 technique is head up on a TE. When you hear a "even number-I" technique, that means they're playing on the inside shoulder of the offensive lineman, or the shoulder closest to the center. Example: a 2-I technique is a defender playing on the inside shoulder of a guard. Odd numbered techniques are reserved for the outside shoulders of the offensive lineman, such as a 3 technique, which would be on the outside shoulder of the guard, or a 5 technique which is on the outside shoulder of the tackle.
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Perhaps a simpler explanation is that the "gap" letters are used to denote offensive blocking holes, whereas the "technique" numbers are used to determine defensive positioning (where the defensive player lines up in relation to the offensive players). In practice you only hear about the odd numbers for the "techniques," 1 techs are nose tackles, 3 techs are under tackles, 5 and 7 techs are regular defensive ends, and 9 techs are outside pass rush specialists. Occasionally a 3-4 will line their nose up as a pure 0 tech, but there's usually an advantage to having the tackle play a shoulder leverage for complicated but relatively unimportant reasons.
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I managed to watch some games on ESPN America here in Europe and I fell in love with the sport. The first game that I watched was with the Ravens so I ended up supporting them most of the time. How do they stack up with most of the other teams and what players should I keep an eye out for when I watch them play?
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Tekopo posted:I managed to watch some games on ESPN America here in Europe and I fell in love with the sport. The first game that I watched was with the Ravens so I ended up supporting them most of the time. How do they stack up with most of the other teams and what players should I keep an eye out for when I watch them play? The Ravens had a pretty good off-season this year and picked up top tier WR Anquan Boldin from Arizona. He gives their receiving corp an instand boost as their veteran WR Derrick Mason is getting on. They have a young QB going into his 3rd year called Joe Flacco who is getting more and more chances to pass the ball. That said the Raven's offensive strength is their running game. Ray Rice had a breakout year last season and its not uncommon to see him as one of the top 5 backs in the league right now. For defense they have two legends and potentially hall of famers in Ray Lewis (linebacker) and Ed Reed (saftey) and a very strong defencive line. For the last 5 years or so Ravens have build their game on top ranked defending.
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Captain Satire posted:For defense they have two legends and potentially hall of famers in Ray Lewis (linebacker) and Ed Reed (saftey) and a very strong defencive line. For the last 5 years or so Ravens have build their game on top ranked defending. From what I hear, Reed is seriously considering retiring though. He's 31, was playing injured all last year and had hip surgery earlier this year. Fake edit: According to this article in the Baltimore Sun he's still intent on playing. I only watched a few Raven's games (mostly the playoffs) and I have to admit that he didn't look too bad out there even despite the injuries. Kinda remains to be seen where a guy who says he's now at 35% will be physically at the start of the season. Not that this should have any say in anybody's fandom. Just saying.  Real Edit: Complete tangent here: What is the benefit to rotating your defensive lineman/running backs? Is it just to keep guys fresh, or is there something else I'm missing here? Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jul 8, 2010 |
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Jul 8, 2010 14:48
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Quiet Feet posted:What is the benefit to rotating your defensive lineman/running backs? Is it just to keep guys fresh, or is there something else I'm missing here? A bit of both. RB and (most) DL are the spots where a quick burst of speed is needed much more than anywhere else on the field, which requires fresh legs. They're also two of the most down-and-distance dependent slots on the field - a third down scatback or a third down pass-rushing specialist is essentially a different position than the first and second down players, which is why hearing such and such is a "three down player" is a pretty big compliment.
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Quiet Feet posted:Real Edit: Complete tangent here: What is the benefit to rotating your defensive lineman/running backs? Is it just to keep guys fresh, or is there something else I'm missing here?
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Coco13 posted:Even though Brown is 40 lbs lighter than John Clay, he's significantly better at slowing down the pass rusher. This is actually pretty common. The lighter guy is more suited to 3rd down duty so he HAS to pass block well. edit: pass derf not run
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Jul 8, 2010 15:22
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Pass blocking, especially of edge rushers, has a lot more of an agility and explosiveness component than a raw strength component. That's why a lot of smaller backs are excellent pass blockers, and it's also why left tackles tend to be some of the best athletes on the field.
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Anyone got a good write-up on fantasy football? I'm gonna dive in this season and would really like something to keep handy.
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Jul 8, 2010 16:31
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Technowrite posted:Anyone got a good write-up on fantasy football. I'm gonna dive in this season and would really like something to keep handy. Last page: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3324645&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post379326433
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No Safe Word posted:Last page: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3324645&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post379326433 Thanks! My apologies for not looking a page back.
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Doppelganger posted:How can you tell if a receiver is a bad route runner? I always hear people talk about how well players do in this area, but I don't understand how you could know that unless you studied their playbook. Easy. 
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So who hosed up there?
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Doppelganger posted:So who hosed up there? Looks like the slot receiver.
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Actually I think Heyward-Bey was supposed to go behind him. Looks like Murphy got intimidated by the jamming corner and went too far inside too quickly. I think it was a bad route by Murphy (#18). It was as much a good play by the corners as anything, though.
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TheSkipster posted:Looks like the slot receiver. I love the fact the Chargers DBs are aware enough to see whats about to happen so they shove the two receivers into each other. Also, I might be wrong but something very similar happened to the Raiders again last season but I can't remember exactly what it was.
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Tekopo posted:I managed to watch some games on ESPN America here in Europe and I fell in love with the sport. The first game that I watched was with the Ravens so I ended up supporting them most of the time. How do they stack up with most of the other teams and what players should I keep an eye out for when I watch them play? The Ravens last season we're one of the better teams in the league, they simply could not win close games or finish off decent opponents, at first because their defense was atrocious, and when the defense was fixed the offense fell apart at the wrong times. I can remember last season the Ravens could quite possibly have started off 6-0, but Mark Clayton dropped the football against the Pats, Ray Lewis fell down against Andre Caldwell, and Sam Koch missed the field goal against the Vikings. However, I fully expect the Ravens to be competing for the #1 seed in the AFC next season, based on their fantastic offseason.
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Diagram of gaps/techniques to make things clear, inside techniques omitted.
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Jul 9, 2010 01:20
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Sam Koch is the punter, you are thinking of Steve Hauschka, who ruined one of the best games any ravens qb has ever had by sucking.
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Also Kelley Washington sucks real bad, doesn't do poo poo, but will sure as gently caress take credit for the rest of the team.
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terrin posted:Diagram of gaps/techniques to make things clear, inside techniques omitted. It doesn't list 2i, 4i, 6i (but these are much less common), but the weird thing is it omits a 7 considering that's the technique a strong side DE is gonna play most of the time.
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^^ good point added it, yeah I left out the insides as said in the postJuicedSixFo posted:Also Kelley Washington sucks real bad, doesn't do poo poo, but will sure as gently caress take credit for the rest of the team. I thought he was a reasonable special teams player.
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JuicedSixFo posted:Also Kelley Washington sucks real bad, doesn't do poo poo, but will sure as gently caress take credit for the rest of the team. He is no longer on the team but do not listen to this man Kelley Washington owned and was the 2nd best reciever the ravens had last year. And he owns. *waves goodbye to fleeing patriots fans*
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Pop Dog posted:Sam Koch is the punter, you are thinking of Steve Hauschka, who ruined one of the best games any ravens qb has ever had by sucking. Ah yes, thank you. gently caress Hauschka.
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terrin posted:^^ good point added it, yeah I left out the insides as said in the post Doh, missed that comment about the inside techs in your post. The only time they ever really come into play is in goal line situations when you've got 4+ guys on the line or in some stunt/blitz combos with a pre-snap d-line shift.
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terrin posted:Diagram of gaps/techniques to make things clear, inside techniques omitted. That diagram makes it a hell of a lot clearer. Thanks!
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USAfootball.com has some good information about football fundamentals. Also I wish I could recommend the Bills to some of you guys but they probably are going to be bad again this year and have added sadness and misery to my life. However like the Browns/Lions they have a good fanbase and are the quintessential underdogs.
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pasaluki posted:USAfootball.com has some good information about football fundamentals. Probably going to be bad? They have no starting QB or LT, and their defense is a shambles. Their only good player is their rookie RB. Their coach sucks and is old. The Bills are going to get slaughtered.
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Blackula69 posted:Probably going to be bad? They have no starting QB or LT, and their defense is a shambles. Their only good player is their rookie RB. Their coach sucks and is old. The Bills are going to get slaughtered. They said the same thing about The California Atoms and the Little Giants.
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Pop Dog posted:He is no longer on the team but do not listen to this man Kelley Washington owned and was the 2nd best reciever the ravens had last year. That's, uh, really not saying much. (but yes I'm just upset about the goodbye wave to fans who used to support him in a game where he did nothing)
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JuicedSixFo posted:That's, uh, really not saying much. I heard he also did the squirrel dance on top of a troy brown jersey
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nnnAdam posted:I love the fact the Chargers DBs are aware enough to see whats about to happen so they shove the two receivers into each other. Also, I might be wrong but something very similar happened to the Raiders again last season but I can't remember exactly what it was. well i remember this happening against dallas, i don't want to turn this into an image thread, but it is the raiders 
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Slaton is a pretty sweet running back for the Texans in Madden 10.
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sc0tty posted:Slaton is a pretty sweet running back for the Texans in Madden 10. I can never get him to work. Maybe it's because I just give up after 2 attempts and launch it to AJ.
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sc0tty posted:Slaton is a pretty sweet running back for the Texans in Madden 10. Slaton showed immense talent his first year in the Texans. In the second he seemed to be off, like he could never catch a break. His biggest problem was that he always seemed to fumble the ball at the most inappropriate times. I still think he could bounce back. EDIT: Sorry I haven't posted my defensive intro yet. It's getting pretty long and I've been busier than expected. hopefully we'll be able to compile all the info in this thread into an easy-to-follow guide for the season. Democrazy fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 10, 2010 |
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Usually I agree with J64 but I'll just say that I was really upset when Kelley Washington didn't come back and he was probably the best special teamer I've ever seen playing for the Patriots, and that includes guys like Larry Whigham and Larry Izzo who used to make the Pro Bowl every year. He also didn't complain at all that he was almost never used on offense. That goodbye wave was sort of obnoxious but hey we really should have kept him.
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I thought the picking up of Ben Tate signals Slaton's end in Houston.
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Captain Satire posted:I thought the picking up of Ben Tate signals Slaton's end in Houston. It was more of an insurance policy than anything else. Plus, running back by committee is the wave of the future didn't you know? 
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HeroOfTheRevolution posted:Usually I agree with J64 You may or may not have noticed I harbor intense irrational hatred towards certain players. Not Ben Watson though, that guy deserves every bit hate.
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