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Mucktron
Dec 21, 2005

"But I've been twelve for a very long time"

So what's the consensus on Guardians of Ga`Hoole? The plot looks horribly cliche, but I'm tempted to check it out because the animation looks amazing, I have an unhealthy fixation on Hugo Weaving and everything I've read on it implies that it has a lot of Secret of NIMTH levels of to traumatize children.

My hipster sister is in town this weekend, so we might actually go see this. (Incidentally, she really DOES want to see it, not in an ironic way)

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Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

Ooh La La?
OOH LA LA?!



Mucktron posted:

So what's the consensus on Guardians of Ga`Hoole? The plot looks horribly cliche, but I'm tempted to check it out because the animation looks amazing, I have an unhealthy fixation on Hugo Weaving and everything I've read on it implies that it has a lot of Secret of NIMTH levels of to traumatize children.

My hipster sister is in town this weekend, so we might actually go see this. (Incidentally, she really DOES want to see it, not in an ironic way)

The plot is pretty much your standard "Fantasy Fighting Bad Guys Quest" movie, but the CGI coupled with the 3D is really stunning. It's a good time if you can get over how thin the plot is. (So basically it's a Zack Snyder movie V V ) I'd say more, but I'm still trying to process it myself.

e: At any rate, the movie did answer the question I asked in the OP.

Q: "How exactly do owls make helmets?"
A: "Owl blacksmiths. Duh."

Jay Dub fucked around with this message at Sep 24, 2010 around 22:09

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!


TigerMoJo posted:

So I finally watched Meet the Robinsons last night because a lot of people in here said it was good. I don't know, I didn't really like it. I didn't hate it either, it was just completely blah. The story felt really predictable, boring and cliche along with shoving the message down your throat. It was cute but I probably wouldn't watch it again unless it was on TV or something.

On another note, Brave has a fanpage now and you can see what the title will look like: http://www.facebook.com/#!/PixarBrave?ref=ts

Well Meet the Robinsons I would never say is an amazing movie or anything. I enjoyed it myself, but I haven't watched it since I saw it in theaters. Although the bowler hat future was pretty awesome. Not like Bolt which I've seen several times, and think is a GREAT movie. I'm just hoping that Tangled is as good as Bolt.

Automatic Jack
Aug 6, 2010


Legends of the Guardians of the Owls of Ga'Hula Hoop (I don't even think it's that funny, it's just how my mind processes the name now) caught my eye, mostly 'cuz it's difficult to do good bird animated movies. Happy Feet kind just creeped me out and Valiant I assume was forgettable because everyone's forgotten about it. Surf's Up and Chicken Run were good but Ga'Hoole is quite a different direction in terms of style and tone, so I'm interested to see what they'll do with it.

Even if the plot is cliched, it's kind of nice to know that we live in an age where a special effects extravaganza with slow-mo combat sequences and magical warriors can also be about... owls. I imagine many reviewers will be befuddled and unable to formulate proper critical thought about it, so I'm thinking of just going in blind to see it without any expectation.

The Quake
Nov 1, 2006



I got dragged into seeing that Owl movie today and despite expecting a dumb kids movie I quite liked it.

The animation was done beautifully and some of the scenes in 3D were spectacular to watch. The plot was cliche but I think it went pretty well.

The only thing I didn't like was the music choice in the movie. Throughout most of the movie it's your basic classical orchestra epic type music, then they start playing things that don't fit at all with the scenes, Owl City and a song ripped straight out of the movie "The Mist", I mean really?

Crow T Bard
Nov 6, 2009


Holy crap, I just saw a commercial for Mastermind where they spoiled the climatic plot twist in which the main superhero was never dead all along but just got tired of the job and went into retirement. What the heck were the guys at the marketing department thinking?

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

Ooh La La?
OOH LA LA?!



The Quake posted:

and a song ripped straight out of the movie "The Mist", I mean really?

Thank you! After it played, all I could think for the rest of the movie was "Where the gently caress have I heard that song??????"

Some of the song choices were kind of odd, but for the most part I quite liked the score. I'm actually surprised they didn't use that terrible 30 Seconds to Mars song from the trailer somewhere in the movie. It seemed to fit.

Calm
Apr 7, 2006


Saw Legend of the Gaurdians today in 3d. The animation is spectacular. Every scene is eye candy. It was actually a little brutal for being a kids movie. A lot of combat which made for some great fight scenes. There were a lot of scenes that I could feel myself smiling just because the effects were so cool.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009

Share food?


I am just dying with having moved to Prague, since kid's movies are dubbed aaand I don't really speak Czech super yet. But I'm glad Ga'Hoole at least looks good. Honestly, the books are pretty damned mediocre, so the movie is probably at similar levels of plot coherence. It sounds like 300 with owls, but with fewer jocks spewing catchphrases about it. Would someone please tell me how much Otulissa does though? She's my favorite from the books.

(Also, if you think them using stupid "owl" works is annoying in the movie, there is no way they could have crammed as many in the movie as there are in the books. "Bonk", "wilf", "sprink", "spronk", "dwenk", "chaw", "churring" etc. etc. etc. forever. Intolerable.)

Clumsy Card House
Jan 6, 2008

Okay look, we both said a lot of things that you are going to regret. But I think we should put our differences behind us. For science.

You monster.


Pick posted:

I am just dying with having moved to Prague, since kid's movies are dubbed aaand I don't really speak Czech super yet. But I'm glad Ga'Hoole at least looks good. Honestly, the books are pretty damned mediocre, so the movie is probably at similar levels of plot coherence. It sounds like 300 with owls, but with fewer jocks spewing catchphrases about it. Would someone please tell me how much Otulissa does though? She's my favorite from the books.

I had to look up that character, I don't think she's in the movie at all. Then again I may have missed her, I had trouble keeping track of some of the strange names.

Anyway, saw the movie, thought it was great. Very beautiful, anyone who sees it should definitely see it in 3D. I also loved the character design of the owls. They managed to make them all individuals while keeping them natural and believable (aside from Metalbeak, obviously). And holy poo poo the fight scenes were bad rear end.

Only thing that bugged me is that they used the word gizzard too much. And they played the music from the end of The Mist during a scene and it totally took me out of the movie.

Basically, I came for rear end kicking owls, I got rear end kicking owls.

TheSwami
Sep 25, 2004

hello old friend

Haven't seen it yet, but it looks like Legend of the Guardians is faceplanting - it's opening at #3, $15m. Budget was $150m. Snyder better hope those international numbers show up.

CRINDY
Sep 23, 2010

woofing cough


Caught Legend of the Guardians today with some buddies, and I really enjoyed it. The script was some terrible combination of Star Wars, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, and it was incredibly dark for a PG, but the voice-cast was great, and the animation and 3D were superb. I thought it was about even with How to Train Your Dragon on quality (I didn't love HtTYD), and I still can't get over how awesome battle-owls were.

Unfortunately, Warner Bros. sunk way too much into the film (I've seen budget reports from 100m to 180m overall) and it's starting a bit slower than it deserves. I can't think of any other family releases until Megamind, so it'll probably make 60 million domestically on a 15m+ opening weekend with luck.

I do feel like this could be the film to blow Blu-Ray 3D into new heights of quality after Avatar's release. Show someone a owl battle scene in Blu-3D and they'd probably shell out for it.

(And I completely loved the Wile E. Coyote short before it. Glad I forgot about that when I read the original announcement press release. Guess it was the "Yogi Bear and Cats and Dogs are the two other films getting these" factor.

RembrandtQEinstein
Jul 1, 2009


I'm finally watching UP. I'm 10 minutes in and am already beating myself up for not getting around to it sooner.

Also I don't like all of the Monsters vs. Aliens hate in this thread. It wasn't a masterpiece but it was certainly an enjoyable movie

an uncanny otter
Mar 31, 2010

WV?: Rise up.


I never really expected Legend of the Guardians to do all that well. Maybe just enough to crack its budget, but I'd be surprised if it went above $200 million.

While it has what is arguably some of the best animation ever done, I don't think it ever seemed to appeal to a lot of people. I don't know any kids that were excited for the movie like they were for Up and Toy Story 3, and I just haven't been hearing any hype for it. It's a shame, because it looks great and I loved the books when I read them in elementary school. I'll be happy if it breaks even at least.

RembrandtQEinstein posted:

I'm finally watching UP. I'm 10 minutes in and am already beating myself up for not getting around to it sooner.
You should be. This is an outrage

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 45 hours!


CRINDY posted:

(And I completely loved the Wile E. Coyote short before it. Glad I forgot about that when I read the original announcement press release. Guess it was the "Yogi Bear and Cats and Dogs are the two other films getting these" factor.

I've seen people bitching online about the short being CG, and I have to say that's part of why I want to see it. Considering that all those shorts and appearances in movies and TV were hand-drawn, it should be neat to see a new look for the characters. That, and the shots I saw in some article looked really nice.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.


What the poo poo?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/...thelionofjudah/

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



Brocktoon posted:

What the poo poo?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/...thelionofjudah/

That looks about par for dopey, stilted, cheap, Christian animated DTV movies (even a slight visual improvement over the norm)... but who did they have to blow to get it into theatres? Obviously not a wide release, but still.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

43 species of parrot?! Nipples for men?! SLUGS?! Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?! If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, 8 o'clock, day one!


Brocktoon posted:

What the poo poo?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/...thelionofjudah/

Every single one of those faces is horrifying

Behonkiss
Feb 10, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 45 hours!


Brocktoon posted:

What the poo poo?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/...thelionofjudah/

Does Ernest Borgnine really have nothing better to do at this point?

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

Ooh La La?
OOH LA LA?!



The moment I saw that pig, I heard Seth Rogen's laugh in my head.

Jr.
Aug 30, 2008

Paging Kenny Loggins.


Brocktoon posted:

What the poo poo?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/...thelionofjudah/

Jesus Christ.

Automatic Jack
Aug 6, 2010


Youtube trailer.
It really isn't so much gut-wrenchingly awful as mediocre and baffling. What's going on? Who are these animals? Why, if you have Ernest Borgnine and Michael Madsen doing voices, won't you let them be heard in the trailer?

Apparently this is South Africa's first CGI feature and is a super big deal for the industry over there. Welp. Also the creators are the kind of people who read the comments under articles like this and actually respond to the negative criticism, so... Yeah, you can feel the awkward silence. Like, what do you say to these people? They're very proud that "CG animation isn't just the property of the USA, India and Korea anymore" (those were the examples they used... Um, no France or Japan?) and they obviously worked hard on it, but...

I don't know.

Barometer
Sep 23, 2007

You travelled a long way for
"I don't know", sonny.


...of SCIENCE! posted:

Every single one of those faces is horrifying

I think the horse looks fine but the donkey is bizarre looking and the pig is terrifying. "Stable Animals", huh? and the Lamb is "in the clutches of the townspeople"...uh, what the hell? Are there wild stables out there I've never heard of? Oh hey, it's in 3D! The blood of Christ compels you, in 3D!!!

The trailer is underwhelming. I can't say I was expecting much, though.

CoolZidane
Jun 24, 2008


"Once upon a lifetime, an adventure takes place that will change the hearts of every man."

That is a hell of a tagline.

I also love the intercutting between:

"Ernest Borgnine"
*Shot of cart riding along trail*
"Michael Madsen*
*The same shot continued*
"Sandi Patty"
*The same shot continued, nothing new happening*
"And Anupham Kher"
*The same shot is still loving going*

MindTheGap
Jul 24, 2007


Jay Dub posted:

The moment I saw that pig, I heard Seth Rogen's laugh in my head.
I hadn't even noticed the pig when I was reading the synopsis earlier. Then I read your post, and had to click back to get a look at him. In conclusion, thank you for the best laugh I've had all day.

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

Ooh La La?
OOH LA LA?!



MindTheGap posted:

I hadn't even noticed the pig when I was reading the synopsis earlier. Then I read your post, and had to click back to get a look at him. In conclusion, thank you for the best laugh I've had all day.

I'm trying to find a good Rogen line to use as a new avatar. Nothing's really standing out.

MindTheGap
Jul 24, 2007


"You want to know where there's one? I! I, Captain Yellow Shirt!" is my favorite of all time, but it's pretty retarded out of context, so...

Wait, you're not getting rid of Jungle 2 Jungle Tim Allen, are you?

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

Ooh La La?
OOH LA LA?!



MindTheGap posted:

"You want to know where there's one? I! I, Captain Yellow Shirt!" is my favorite of all time, but it's pretty retarded out of context, so...

Wait, you're not getting rid of Jungle 2 Jungle Tim Allen, are you?

As much as I love the J2J av, I'm always keeping an eye out for a new one.

muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

BOGGLE?



Crow T Bard posted:

Holy crap, I just saw a commercial for Mastermind where they spoiled the climatic plot twist in which the main superhero was never dead all along but just got tired of the job and went into retirement. What the heck were the guys at the marketing department thinking?

Yeah, I saw that too tonight. What the poo poo?

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

DOG OF DUTY


I have no idea how the actual movie is going to work out, but if I had to decide, I'd have Tina Fey's character scold Megamind and Metro Man about near the end of movie for basically just continuing a childish rivalry just because they were never raised to know any better. It would at least add some dynamic to the inevitable "we have to work together to defeat a real villain!" sequence, because you can't tell me that's not what's going to happen.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009

Share food?


muscles like this? posted:

Yeah, I saw that too tonight. What the poo poo?

I am completely convinced that Dreamworks' marketing department is 95% of what is wrong with Dreamworks. Every time I see a bad pun, or a weirdly shoehorned joke, or a reference to poop in a Dreamworks film, I instantly think, "I bet marketing asked for that." It has never been more obvious than for Shrek 4, which, I'll grant you, is not and never will be a good movie. However, the "this is for marketing" moments were jarring as all get out. Something relatively serious would be happening, then--BAM! Something you saw in the trailer!--aaaand back to serious.

Kung Fu Panda probably avoided that because Jack Black = instant "this will have downright offensively stupid jokes" credibility (deceived!) and HTTYD probably escaped it because they thought it would be more forgettable. Little did they know!

Pick fucked around with this message at Sep 29, 2010 around 11:34

muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

BOGGLE?



Its weird in that the marketing department is actively going out of their way to spoil the movie's plot. Which is too bad because unlike a lot of animated features this one didn't look like it was a straight point A to B to C progression.

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

DOG OF DUTY


Pick posted:

It has never been more obvious than for Shrek 4, which, I'll grant you, is not and never will be a good movie. However, the "this is for marketing" moments were jarring as all get out. Something relatively serious would be happening, then--BAM! Something you saw in the trailer!--aaaand back to serious.

I actually didn't think it was horrible, it was alright, at the very least better than the trainwreck that 3 was. In any case, yeah, that was extremely glaring when I saw the movie. The completely groan-worthy gags in the trailer felt like they really were just stuck in at the last moment.

Really hoping that they eventually learn from the successes of Kung Fu Panda, HTTYD, and Toy Story 3. Surely they couldn't go this long without figuring out the key element was quality?

Megera
Sep 9, 2008


It really seems like Dreamworks's marketing department doesn't want movies like HTTYD to succeed. The trailers for it were terrible, and none of my friends and I wanted to see it. I would've skipped it entirely, but a club I was in had a free special pre-screening. I had to tell my friends it was "really good" instead of great, because I was in denial that there was any way something with that terrible of a trailer would have been as great as it was and maybe I had been in an extremely good mood.

DW keeps turning out lovely movies like Shrek 3 and 4 because they sell, and I understand that they need those to make money so that they can make HTTYD, but it's frustrating when it doesn't seem like they try to market their quality movies well.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!


Madagascar 2 was really good too. Better than the first one. I don't even know how DW managed to do that.

redjenova
Dec 26, 2009

That's a little better.


miscellaneous14 posted:

I actually didn't think it was horrible, it was alright, at the very least better than the trainwreck that 3 was. In any case, yeah, that was extremely glaring when I saw the movie. The completely groan-worthy gags in the trailer felt like they really were just stuck in at the last moment.

Really hoping that they eventually learn from the successes of Kung Fu Panda, HTTYD, and Toy Story 3. Surely they couldn't go this long without figuring out the key element was quality?

Why did you include Toy Story 3 in that?

Megera
Sep 9, 2008


Macaluso posted:

Madagascar 2 was really good too. Better than the first one. I don't even know how DW managed to do that.

I watched it recently. Story-wise, it was a lot better, but I thought the villain was weak and thought he was just some doofus hanging around. I actually liked the first Madagascar a lot when there weren't any lemurs around (save for cute little lemur who was barely in the 2nd one ).

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

DOG OF DUTY


redjenova posted:

Why did you include Toy Story 3 in that?

Because it's part of a list of movies that owe a large amount of their success to their superior quality, and considering that it dethroned Dreamworks' own Shrek for top-grossing animated film, they'd do very well to notice this fact.

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010


TheSwami posted:

Haven't seen it yet, but it looks like Legend of the Guardians is faceplanting - it's opening at #3, $15m. Budget was $150m. Snyder better hope those international numbers show up.

Where are you getting 150 million from? I heard its budget was closer to $80 million.

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redjenova
Dec 26, 2009

That's a little better.


miscellaneous14 posted:

Because it's part of a list of movies that owe a large amount of their success to their superior quality, and considering that it dethroned Dreamworks' own Shrek for top-grossing animated film, they'd do very well to notice this fact.

I was just looking for clarification. Since your first two examples were successful (and actually good) Dreamworks movies, I felt like it was out of place in your point, since Pixar's films are pretty much universally successful anyway and DW hasn't seemed to learn much from that.

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