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Otik
Apr 5, 2005

Psycho log baby

Are American police really as bad as these threads make out, or is it just that America's a huge country with a few bad apples?

Does your media demand sensationalism to the extent that stories reported are told solely from exaggerated accounts from (what can sometimes only dubiously be called) victims?

While we have stories about the police loving up over here in the UK, it usually just comes down to incompetence - as opposed to the malice that the stories from America seem to paint.


N.B. I am not a "police apologist" or whatever I'll be called for asking this, I'm just amazed at the disparity I see between the UK and US on this. I'm also not saying the woman in this case deserved what she got, but I will still reserve judgement until I hear more than just her testimony.

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Otik
Apr 5, 2005

Psycho log baby

Caro Ascendant posted:

More like 'enemy of the criminal organization that has managed to subvert resources away from the lawful government of the united states of america' but kinda. Not by choice. It's actually quite horrible.


Clandestine activities aside they have straight up booted in my door twice. Yes, yes they are. The threads are actually somewhat understated. They're far more concerned with the management of crime than they are with actually stopping it. I'm sure that there are good police out there but there is also this large cancerous polyp that you really can't ignore.

Talking about clandestine activities, sending a plain clothes police office posing as someone else seems like a reasonable way of verifying that someone who may not want to speak to the police is in a house to me.

I find the idea that police are constantly slipping drugs into people's pockets just so they can put them in jail unlikely too. It may have happened, but only rarely, surely?

Why did they kick in your door? They must have received a warrant from a judge for that, right? If the evidence they provided to the judge wasn't strong enough, then maybe the problem is with the judiciary.

As for crime management, it seems like a far more sensible approach to policing than a reactive approach. People complain about CCTV in the UK, but isn't that better than living somewhere with "constant" no-knock entries and drugs being planted on suspects?


EDIT: I interpret "bad apples spoiling the barrel" to mean that the bad apples ruin the barrel as a whole, though the other apples in the barrel aren't necessarily compromised.

Otik fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2010 around 11:55

Otik
Apr 5, 2005

Psycho log baby

LFoD posted:

tell me where to buy shrubberies old lady or i shall knee you second time!

From your custom title it sounds like she'd be kicking you.

And My Fax! posted:


Twice her size by weight/volume is a reasonable possibility at those heights.

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