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Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande




The Open Space Movement is planning to begin operations within a month, and we intend to kick things off by providing a grant towards Copenhagen Suborbitals.

You may remember them from this thread.

For those wondering what the hell this is about, the OSM is a non-profit open-source style project that aims to get people involved with developing space access. We focus on public involvement, as that is the lynch pin to developing space. 'People' are the difference between "a global market for maybe 5 computers", and the billions of PC's, smartphones, and servers that make up the Internet. We bought the Internet. We are personally responsible for driving the demand for the state of the art, and paying for it simultaneously. We can do the same for space access. If you consider that we are currently spending more on cell phones in one year, than the Apollo program did in a decade, it stands to reason that an organized public space venture could steamroll over the cumulative achievements in manned spaceflight to date.


Some of you may have reservations, which are completely understandable. The concept of "space travel" is essentially synonymous with "ten years from now", or "maybe our grandchildren will go", or "only the government or a big corporation could afford it". Well, screw that! As long as space remains a spectator sport, the only thing we can do is watch and wait. If space is ever settled, it will be settled by the impatient.


The quickest and most cost-effective plan is nothing short of full-scale colonization of our solar system. Without going into too many details here, this would most likely involve the development of mining and manufacturing, industrial infrastructure, and the construction of habitation and agricultural structures. Rather than focusing upon a single aspect such as exploration, science, commercial development, tourism, or energy systems - a sufficiently large movement would allow all of those to happen simultaneously, and to a much greater magnitude.

The ONLY entity with enough brainpower, monetary resources, and motivation to carry this out would be the public itself. And that's where the OSM comes in.
  • We are a collaborative development environment, to help foster new ideas, and provide the support to turn ideas into actual products.
  • We intend to provide a knowledge base, to help disseminate a practical understanding of space science and engineering to the general public.
  • We intend to provide a service to existing space organizations and private companies, so that they may benefit from the OSM ecosystem, and gain visibility for their work.
  • We intend to provide a catalog of vendors and service providers, so that project authors can browse for COTS (Commercial off the Shelf) components, and find professional services.
  • We are a space news site that makes its own news.
  • We offer democratic control of OSM policy and financial decision-making to the OSM user base, and transparent accounting practices.
  • We do not charge for membership.
  • We accept donations, which may be used to fund OSM members' projects, or provide grants to existing organizations (ie, Copenhagen Suborbitals).
  • We take ITAR compliance seriously (although we really wouldn't mind seeing ITAR reform soon)
  • We feel that an educated and organized body of people could become the market for space access, with enough drive and inertia to essentially dictate how space will be developed.
  • We want to give college students a purpose in life, aside from aspirations to work in an office cubicle and pay off student loans.
  • We encourage participation from citizens of other countries.
  • We have work for you. I don't care if you're not a "rocket scientist", there are many other areas of expertise we need besides aerospace engineering.
  • We have met with the National Space Society to discuss this, and they feel the OSM is a good idea, with a good chance for success.


So without further ado, I will say that the OSM site should be ready by the end of August, and we hope to launch around the same time Copenhagen Suborbitals launches their Tycho Brahe / HEAT-1X test. This modest grant of about 5000$ will help to establish the OSM's track record, keep the Copenhagen Suborbitals team working on their next project, and generate some publicity for both of our organizations. Not to mention, the proposed amount of 5000$ is roughly equal to the cost of the propellants that the HEAT-1X rocket will consume.

The OSM plans to provide similar grants to other organizations in the future, but for now, Copenhagen Suborbitals is our first customer. So far, we've raised about 650$ 720$ 1051$ 1081$ 1171$ 1466$ over the last month. We hope to reach our goal before the end of August.

Kristian von Bengtson posted:

Dear Jason,

Thank you for this interesting E-mail.

First of all I want to express happiness to hear that many of your members have pointed towards Copenhagen Suborbitals in relation to your grant offer.

We live only based on grant and private donations. About 1500 people have chipped in, to see this project become a reality. And in 45 days we will be launching the first rocket from the Baltic Sea, with the spacecraft, as you may know.


I don’t see any issues with all points 1-7. I think we fit your profile. We are 100% open sources and Im sure we will shake the space-ground much, when we launch for absolutely no costs. Also, we work seriously with safety on a daily basis. But we have no particular paper on this. Also, our budget is to tiny, that your grant no matter how “small” will make a huge difference. Its OK for us if you extend the fundraising period. I think we can just manage for this first flight, and maybe its much easier for you to raise the money, after we have launched… It will be an event shown in video and images around the world, no matter how good or bad things are going..



Thanks again for the work and support!

How can I help more on this?


Best

Kristian von Bengtson

Founder, Copenhagen Suborbitals


The HEAT-1X test planned for the end of August will test the rocket motor (which is a rubber-like polyurethane derivative), and the flight characteristics + recovery procedure of the Tycho Brahe crew capsule.







(thanks to frumpykvetchbot for these pictures)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YX-WzUMGZI

If you want to help out, we have a donation link here.

There is an OSM facebook page if you want to follow our development status.

Here's one for Copenhagen Suborbitals as well.



ps. thanks toby, and thanks to everyone who's supported this.


edit - update time:

Updates on the HEAT-1X / Tycho Brahe assembly - launch window starts on Aug 30th.



update - http://openspacemovement.org is up with placeholder info. Site development is nearing completion.

Shalrath fucked around with this message at Aug 23, 2010 around 13:47

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MobMentality
Aug 22, 2007

I'm Mike Doyle.


You know, you never got back to me on my solution to artificial gravity.

Noreaus
May 22, 2008

HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING?


The OSM badly needs a better website.

derriere demons
Aug 16, 2008



Edit: ^^^ agreed


Okay, few things.

1)How sure are you that these guys are legit? I mean take a couple of pictures from some science website and photoshop your 'logo' onto it and bam! Instant scam. They could make you think they're testing rockets, when they'll really just take the money and disappear.

2)This stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime. People are too self-centered and greedy. This website and it's goal is awesome, it's a great way to get people interested in space again. But saying any of this is achievable now or even remotely soon is silly. It's a great goal, something we need to work towards. But its all a bit too 'we can go into space and live on other planets if we just join together!' is a bit well, silly.

Random Number
Mar 25, 2007

Never Stop Posting.


Bash Ironfist posted:

Edit: ^^^ agreed


Okay, few things.

1)How sure are you that these guys are legit? I mean take a couple of pictures from some science website and photoshop your 'logo' onto it and bam! Instant scam. They could make you think they're testing rockets, when they'll really just take the money and disappear.

2)This stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime. People are too self-centered and greedy. This website and it's goal is awesome, it's a great way to get people interested in space again. But saying any of this is achievable now or even remotely soon is silly. It's a great goal, something we need to work towards. But its all a bit too 'we can go into space and live on other planets if we just join together!' is a bit well, silly.

Achievable, yes. Expensive as gently caress, yes. That's the wonder of this project. All we, as humans, need to do to assure our place in this universe is to leave home. All that it takes to get that started is a fraction of the GDP of the big 8.

OSM's goal is to gather folks to raise the money, if you can fund the companies to build the rockets, they can put up satellites to fund further projects and eventually collaborate to start a small, yet possibly self sufficient habitat in earth orbit.

That's just the beginning.

Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


Noreaus posted:

The OSM badly needs a better website.

There is osmdevel.org, but that's going to be deprecated pretty quickly when the new site comes online.

Bash Ironfist posted:

Okay, few things.

1)How sure are you that these guys are legit? I mean take a couple of pictures from some science website and photoshop your 'logo' onto it and bam! Instant scam. They could make you think they're testing rockets, when they'll really just take the money and disappear.

2)This stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime. People are too self-centered and greedy. This website and it's goal is awesome, it's a great way to get people interested in space again. But saying any of this is achievable now or even remotely soon is silly. It's a great goal, something we need to work towards. But its all a bit too 'we can go into space and live on other planets if we just join together!' is a bit well, silly.

1) Pretty sure they're building rockets over there. There is a metric assload of pictures from Frumpy's thread.

2) There already are a bunch of people who want to go to space. However, their only means of "participation" is to circle jerk about space elevators, or play NASA cheerleader by writing tepid letters of impotent rage to their various congressional representatives, or changing their desktop background to some random APOD image. This will go nowhere. The OSM could change that though, by giving these people some work to do, and providing some much needed remedial-level education on space travel.

Shalrath fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2010 around 00:34

apathetic poster
May 8, 2002



Bash Ironfist posted:

1)How sure are you that these guys are legit? I mean take a couple of pictures from some science website and photoshop your 'logo' onto it and bam! Instant scam. They could make you think they're testing rockets, when they'll really just take the money and disappear.

If it's a scam it's a well supported one, a guy involved in CS posts a crap ton of images and content in GBS.

derriere demons
Aug 16, 2008



Shalrath posted:

There is osmdevel.org, but that's going to be deprecated pretty quickly when the new site comes online.


1) Pretty sure they're building rockets over there. There is a metric assload of pictures from Frumpy's thread.

2) There already are a bunch of people who want to go to space. However, their only means of "participation" is to circle jerk about space elevators, or play NASA cheerleader by writing tepid letters of impotent rage to their various congressional representatives, or changing their desktop background to some random APOD image. This will go nowhere. The OSM could change that though, by giving these people some work to do, and provide some much needed remedial-level education on space travel.

Ah, I didn't realize they posted pictures of what they were doing on the forums. I'm just a negative outlook kind of guy.

Space colonies would be awesome, but are we really even close to that level of technology? We have loving phones that are updated every year, but I can't remember the last time there was a breakthrough in say, heart condition monitoring devices.

A Mean Cow
Jan 18, 2004

I make the best space doll houses ever


Bash Ironfist posted:

Edit: ^^^ agreed


Okay, few things.

1)How sure are you that these guys are legit? I mean take a couple of pictures from some science website and photoshop your 'logo' onto it and bam! Instant scam. They could make you think they're testing rockets, when they'll really just take the money and disappear.

2)This stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime. People are too self-centered and greedy. This website and it's goal is awesome, it's a great way to get people interested in space again. But saying any of this is achievable now or even remotely soon is silly. It's a great goal, something we need to work towards. But its all a bit too 'we can go into space and live on other planets if we just join together!' is a bit well, silly.

I agree that it's easy to set up a scam, especially targeting a certain select interest group like space aficionados, which is why, if I had a penny to donate I would do so, but only after just a little cross-referencing this organization's reputation and credentials. Which I may try to do anyway when I get a free afternoon just to know and spread the word.

I would do this because all other questions aside, the OP and spokesperson is right, commercial supply feeds public demand and if the public mindset were to change from "this stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime" to "well maybe this can happen" we would see a demand for it. I want to go to orbit, everyone I know would if given the affordable opportunity. And the industries of aerospace, communications, research and other related fields would also be pretty happy with easy access to space. I don't think anyone's talking about going off to live on other planets, as much as a shift of the public attitude towards if this can really happen, and I support the idea that it can and should, and sooner than later.

Saying space travel is silly is like saying looking for a new route to India was silly, or that trying to break the sound barrier was silly, or that the theory that little microbes cause disease was silly... Etc.

As side note, long before I read about OSM I had this idea that open sourcing is going to change the world.

Banano
Jan 10, 2005



Here have $50.

Don't run off to space Mexico or something with my money!

Gorfob
Feb 10, 2007


Already donated to CSO in the last thread.

Keep up the good work guys I want space living by the time I die.

whitey delenda est
Sep 14, 2008

Oh pirates yes they rob I
Sold I to the merchant ships



I have no money but I've donated to CSO before and I support your dream 100%. Will follow the proceedings for sure.

Illegal Username
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.


Banano posted:

Here have $50.

Don't run off to space Mexico or something with my money!
If they can get to space Mexico with my money they have drat well earned it

Curly Shuffle
May 31, 2001

If not US, then Mexico.

Does Copenhagen Suborbitals still plan to tow their sea launch platform with their submarine?

Helldesk
Jan 6, 2007

Hands of my ~*Space Waifu*~ planet-huggers! *tips space-fedora*

Bash Ironfist posted:

2)This stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime. People are too self-centered and greedy. This website and its goal is awesome, it's a great way to get people interested in space again. But saying any of this is achievable now or even remotely soon is silly. It's a great goal, something we need to work towards. But it's all a bit too 'we can go into space and live on other planets if we just join together!' is a bit well, silly.

Who do you think drives and feeds in most of the money in the planet's economy? Big companies and governments do not exist in a separate reality. They get, use and move around OUR money! It's all ours, the general public!

If we want an easy method of travel, companies spring up that build and sell us cars and airplanes.

If we want to communicate with each other no matter where we are, they will build and sell us cell phones and phone networks, computers and the Internet, even launch satellites to make it all work.

If we, the general public, decide we want to take a vacation in Earth orbit, companies will build us the means to get there and have a blast. It is already starting to happen. From there, it gets increasingly natural to do other things - getting to orbit is by far the hardest part, in terms of required energy. Want to solve all natural resource issues (and get filthy rich)? Go mine some nearby asteroids. Need nearly unlimited energy? Beam down some solar power from space.

Anything is possible. Look what we've done and how much we have paid just to make it easier to find porn or annoy friends with ringtones. We haven't even started with space - so far, only governments have invested in it and that investment has been a vanishingly small amount of the taxes. For an American, it's currently half a penny of each tax dollar. The returns? The Universe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhNZENMG1o <- I love this guy, listen to him. Just include and group space development in general in your mind with NASA in that video.

Nothing drives the economy like space development. Ok, maybe war, but Open War Movement is the next thread over and we don't need those guys. Everything is up for grabs for those who dare to dream.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMPIN' ON INTO THE POWER LINES

So I figured I'd start an OSM project now, and get it all up when the site starts.

Something that will make money... Like a Satellite. Or weapons... Ideas?

Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


Posting this again, just in case anyone is wondering why I'm starting the OSM.

GnatKingCoal
Dec 17, 2008

You, Sir, are UNAmerican!


M_Gargantua posted:

So I figured I'd start an OSM project now, and get it all up when the site starts.

Something that will make money... Like a Satellite. Or weapons... Ideas?

Adapt the Bigelow design to build a highly-automated movie studio in orbit.

Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


M_Gargantua posted:

So I figured I'd start an OSM project now, and get it all up when the site starts.

Something that will make money... Like a Satellite. Or weapons... Ideas?

It's not entirely necessary to come up with a brilliant idea. Reviewing, or submitting ideas to other projects is also a good way to help.

Also, even if someone has a bad idea - they'll still get to learn why it was a bad idea. There is a lot we all need to learn.

The average person probably knows that a 747 passenger jet doesn't have an "underwater mode", or VTOL capability, and probably cant land on a runway shorter than a few miles. The same can't be said about their knowledge of space travel.


Also.. probably don't want to come up with weapons ideas.

frumpykvetchbot
Feb 20, 2004

PROGRESSIVE SCAN

Thanks OSM and all you lovely goons for supporting our space adventure.

Curly Shuffle posted:

Does Copenhagen Suborbitals still plan to tow their sea launch platform with their submarine?

That's affirmative.

Nautilus is looking pretty good and the sea-launch catamaran is looking sharp. They will sail together in some kind of towing harness with straps and ropes.

We're still way under our target for funding, which may mean we have to cut back on the number of vessels in our recovery fleet. But we hope that we can scrape by through selling tourist dives on the submarine, and that funding will be easier once we demonstrate a succesful flight. Which we will, I feel certain.

Everybody is happy and the many subsystems are all shaping up. Here are some highlights:

- The replacement oxygen tank has been installed and looks good. However, we won't have time to test it in a rocket context before first flight.

- Two of four fins have been attached to booster.



- Automatic sequencer systems for autonomously controlling ignition, pyros and parachutes are all done and tested.




- The parachute deployment system seems to work.

- Telemetry and video downlink systems are done.

- Command uplink system also done. Will let us (hopefully) abort midflight if necessary.

This is going to be a busy month...

R-Type
Oct 10, 2005


What is the minimum donation to this cause? My company supports a NASA youth group, and we work with a lot of aerospace industry.

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Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Keep it up, OSM. Projects like this give me hope for humanity. Carl Sagan would be proud.

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Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


R-Type posted:

What is the minimum donation to this cause? My company supports a NASA youth group, and we work with a lot of aerospace industry.

Whatever you feel like. I really hate the vibe I get from the usual suspects, where they ask for 50 to 100 just for basic membership. 2$ is fine for the OSM. It all adds up.

When you consider that half of a penny for every dollar you pay in taxes actually goes to NASA, that basically means you can easily spend more money on lunch in a week than you "spend" on NASA in a year.

RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."


Noreaus posted:

The OSM badly needs a better website.

Some ideas are in the work. If you design feel free to jump in!


Click here for the full 1393x1236 image.


Shal - Will have icons set up on a page like this sometime this week. Do you have a vector logo for the OSM? I need something larger or vectorized for some stuff I've got in mind.

Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


Trans-Angeles posted:

Some ideas are in the work. If you design feel free to jump in!


Click here for the full 1393x1236 image.


Shal - Will have icons set up on a page like this sometime this week. Do you have a vector logo for the OSM? I need something larger or vectorized for some stuff I've got in mind.

I emailed James about it. (he did the final version of the logo, but I only saw the png file)

Also, now would be a good time to get that banner spiffed up. Any last minute changes you want to make?


ps. More Moonypigs are in production.


MY EMPIRE GROWS!

Shalrath fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2010 around 05:11

synftw
Jun 14, 2007
Chaos-Gnostic Satanist

Could you give me a rundown of what ownership the OSS will have over the intellectual property it generates, and whether or not this body of work will be licensed through an Open Hardware/Software licences from the start?

RGBRIOT
Apr 19, 2009

"Beauty, packaged for a digital world."


Shalrath posted:

I emailed James about it. (he did the final version of the logo, but I only saw the png file)

Also, now would be a good time to get that banner spiffed up. Any last minute changes you want to make?


ps. More Moonypigs are in production.


MY EMPIRE GROWS!

I'm not sure. I'll have a look and see if there's any quick changes to be made.

GhostShirtSociety
Jun 6, 2009

Television. Doesn't it make you want to kick things?

Any idea when the full site will be up? Weeks? months?

JustAnother Fat Guy
Dec 22, 2009

Go to hell, and take your cheap suit with you!

But if you did make it into space and found a way to start small scale colonisation of the solar system for mining and other purposes, the mean corporations and governments would declare you a terrorist organisation and steal all that infrastructure

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMPIN' ON INTO THE POWER LINES

JustAnother Fat Guy posted:

But if you did make it into space and found a way to start small scale colonisation of the solar system for mining and other purposes, the mean corporations and governments would declare you a terrorist organisation and steal all that infrastructure

So? Once your in space you have a massive advantage over any government or company. Greater resources, more room to maneuver, etc. Any move on their part to come up after you would be blatant.

the
Jul 18, 2004
CERSEI DROWNS TYRION IN WINE BARREL

I found this great article today in the NY times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/s...ace/04nasa.html

quote:

When a cooling-system pump on the International Space Station broke down over the weekend, NASA and the six astronauts on board responded with typical cool self-assurance. The space agency scheduled two spacewalks to repair the damage and said the astronauts, three Americans and three Russians, were in no danger.

But the incident underlined a deeper concern about the orbiting station’s long-term health. If this or any other problem should result in a need to abandon the station, the United States’ human spaceflight program would lose one of its last remaining reasons for being.

There's more in the article. However, what I really wanted to ask was if anyone has a higher resolution of the image included in the article, something wallpaper sized. Thanks!

The NonBornKing
Jun 25, 2007
Early one mornin' while makin' the rounds, I took a shot o' cocaine and I shot my woman down.

OSM supporter checking in. Will be donating when I get a serious job offer. Keep the momentum going!

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

Bash Ironfist posted:

2)This stuff will never, ever happen in our lifetime. People are too self-centered and greedy. This website and it's goal is awesome, it's a great way to get people interested in space again. But saying any of this is achievable now or even remotely soon is silly. It's a great goal, something we need to work towards. But its all a bit too 'we can go into space and live on other planets if we just join together!' is a bit well, silly.

The beauty of it is that greed will help at the end of the day. In every generation since the 60s, the collective imagination of the public has been sparked by manned space travel. So much so that people like Richard Gariott (who is a bit loopy in the first place) will spend the vast majority of their fortunes for a single trip up. People desperately want to do space tourism, and who wouldn't, freefall is the bomb. The problem is that there hasn't been any way for the average joe who is interested in space travel to do anything to make that closer to a reality for themselves in bite sized chunks.

Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


spcefrk posted:

Any idea when the full site will be up? Weeks? months?

The devs say that we should be able to have a beta ready in about 3 weeks. Hopefully we can iron all the bugs out quickly after we get that up and start hammering on it.

aSSbAG.
Apr 10, 2005

Somethingawful's MAD Trucker


M_Gargantua posted:

So I figured I'd start an OSM project now, and get it all up when the site starts.

Something that will make money... Like a Satellite. Or weapons... Ideas?

Actually I had an idea about robots that would go out to the asteroid belt and push some big rear end rocks back to earth for mining purposes. It's not manned exploration but its a start, prove that there's resources out there and money to be made. I think I'm probably too lazy to start on it myself so take it and go hog wild.

Shalrath
May 25, 2001

by elpintogrande


aSSbAG. posted:

Actually I had an idea about robots that would go out to the asteroid belt and push some big rear end rocks back to earth for mining purposes. It's not manned exploration but its a start, prove that there's resources out there and money to be made. I think I'm probably too lazy to start on it myself so take it and go hog wild.

Pushing rocks from the main asteroid belt would be pretty expensive in terms of dV. Near-Earth asteroids are a lot closer, and some of them would require less dV than getting to the moon. At that range, it might be easier and faster overall to send a manned expedition. Or better yet, several waves of manned expeditions, with different types of equipment.

First expedition would basically travel to a suitable NEA, and start grinding it up. Since cosmic and solar radiation are likely to be an issue, the first step would be to fill sandbags with crushed rock, and cover the hull of the habitat. Carrying a few hundred nylon bags is going to weigh a lot less than a sufficient amount of metallic or water-based radiation shielding. This first expedition would basically make nothing but sandbags of crushed asteroidal material.

The next expedition would bring a few more people, along with equipment to start smelting, seperating, and casting asteroid material into solid ores. Smelting rock should be fairly simple, given a large mirror (reflective-coated mylar, most likely).

Since NEA's don't travel around the sun at the same speed as the Earth, it's likely that you'll need to ship all of the heaviest stuff in the first few launches, while maintaining a steady stream of lighter packages - such as provisions and fuel. Additionally, we could launch several similar asteroid missions at various points around the Aten, Apollo, and Amor belts, and potentially use them as way-stations for logistical supply. (IE, launch something from Earth towards the nearest NEA outpost - and the outpost can launch it again for "free" with a rail-gun and enough solar panels)

The third stage of these expeditions would be simple tools and CNC machinery to allow the outposts to take their raw materials and turn it into finished products. One such product would be a brand new CNC machine. The second product would probably be duplicate "space containers", or some other sort of cheap habitat expansion. A crude solar sail, or a low-g railgun system could then start launching finished goods back towards Earth orbit.

At this point, you suddenly have less need to launch things from Earth, since a lot of simple and heavy structures can now be built in space. Additionally, the extra supply of habitation modules and equipment being built from the asteroid outposts suddenly means you can start to setup agricultural-based orbiting colonies. One would think this would reduce demand for food being sent up from Earth. However, the addition of space-based food supply will simply allow for more people to live in space - increasing demand considerably. And that's how to get things started.

Well, that's my idea anyways.





RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.


Well I've got experience growing plants in soil and hydro using LED lights. So I call dibs on OSM's horticulturist/gardener when we get up there. Which I'm sure with time we can develop a decently, though not 100% efficient, method of waste management/oxygen creation/food creation.

Edit, also I'm going through my solar (energy) certification training right now, so I can help out there too.

RizieN fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2010 around 17:26

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


RizieN posted:

Well I've got experience growing plants in soil and hydro using LED lights. So I call dibs on OSM's horticulturist/gardener when we get up there. Which I'm sure with time we can develop a decently, though not 100% efficient, method of waste management/oxygen creation/food creation.
You just want to grow some dank space nugs.

Hotbox the entire space station.

Seriously though. Space rocks and we need to be there more. Set up a recurring donation plan so I can donate once I have income again.

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.


100 HOGS AGREE posted:

You just want to grow some dank space nugs.

Hotbox the entire space station.

Seriously though. Space rocks and we need to be there more. Set up a recurring donation plan so I can donate once I have income again.

Hey, people will need recreation up there, humans weren't meant to live in space, they go crazy(just watch Christmas on Mars). Speaking of, my brother is an awesome musician, we'll need live entertainment for the people doing seriously hard work.

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master mystifier
Oct 9, 2007


Hey Shal, I want to do whatever I can to help.

I have experience as an editor, so if you have copy for the website, or press releases or anything that you need looked through for typos, or just sprucing up anything in general I can help with that.

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