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quote:But in fact, Newton doesn’t seem especially concerned by such thorny issues, what bothers him is being limited by any label at all. “It’s bigger than race,” he says. Apparently his supreme specialness transcends race, and we littles will get that about him in time. hahahahaha jesus christ columnists are astoundingly full of themselves.
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DJExile posted:hahahahaha jesus christ columnists are astoundingly full of themselves. Compare and Contrast: 
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Feb 5, 2016 16:26
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Cam Newton wouldn't give me some bullshit comments on race to let me easily write a column and get a ton of free attention, so I'm going to be a big baby about it. This will also be easy and get me a ton of free attention! drat being a journalist is tough
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Feb 5, 2016 16:28
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This sets back women in sports journalism and its sad.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:46
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I don't particularly hate the Broncos but man I want to see the Panthers curb-stomp them on Sunday to see the reactions of Sally Jenkins and her ilk.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:50
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commy gun posted:This sets back women in sports journalism and its sad. By demonstrating they can be just as lovely as their male counterparts?
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Feb 5, 2016 16:51
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I'd worry that it sets a precedent that if you want to make it as a woman in sports journalism or broadcasting you have to be the hot take giver. Jemele Hill dabbles in it some too.
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commy gun posted:This sets back women in sports journalism and its sad. I get what you're saying here but sports journalism has been setting itself back for decades now, especially columnists.
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Feb 5, 2016 17:00
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Sally Jenkins, the thirty year sportswriter who was inducted into the sports writer HoF over a decade ago, has to deliver steaming hot takes to make it as a sportswriter? Sally Jenkins problem is she's old and white and has stereotypical old and white opinions.
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Feb 5, 2016 17:00
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I love that every article about how egomaniacal Athlete X is always includes a little line like this:From that Jenkins article posted:Then he shuffles away from the podium in socks and slippers, as if it’s too much trouble to dress properly for something as paltry as a news conference. "Cam Newton is an egomaniac and the proof is that he didn't dress nicely enough when we went to ask him dumb inane questions, does he not realize how important we are?!"
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Feb 5, 2016 17:07
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Yeah, imagine that:
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Feb 5, 2016 17:10
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Imagine how easily that line could be rewritten to 'So full of himself as to wear designer shoes to a basic press conference...'
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Feb 5, 2016 17:22
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commy gun posted:I'd worry that it sets a precedent that if you want to make it as a woman in sports journalism or broadcasting you have to be the hot take giver. Jemele Hill dabbles in it some too. The precedent is that to make it in sports journalism period you have to be a hot take giver.
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Feb 5, 2016 17:25
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Marquis de Pyro posted:Imagine how easily that line could be rewritten to 'So full of himself as to wear designer shoes to a basic press conference...' A tailored suit that likely costs more than what Middle Class America pays for their cars!
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commy gun posted:I'd worry that it sets a precedent that if you want to make it as a woman in sports journalism or broadcasting you have to be the hot take giver. Jemele Hill dabbles in it some too. commy gun what the gently caress are you going on about
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Feb 5, 2016 17:50
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Maybe I'm overreacting (probably) It just stings a little more when its a woman making an rear end of herself because there's far less female voices in the industry. You hope when an opinion gets traction from a woman its for quality work and not crap like Sally Jenkins take downs of Cam Newton and Robert Griffin.
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commy gun posted:Maybe I'm overreacting (probably) I think that you're pulling out the femaleness from the dumb hot takiness. The majority of sports journos are hot take machines these days.
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commy gun posted:I'd worry that it sets a precedent that if you want to make it as a woman in sports journalism or broadcasting you have to be the hot take giver. Jemele Hill dabbles in it some too. In the sense that fish dabble in water, yeah
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Inspector_666 posted:I love that every article about how egomaniacal Athlete X is always includes a little line like this: I like the part wear she somehow holds the basic I really want to win comment against him.
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Feb 6, 2016 02:31
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gently caress, black athletes can't win. It feels like if you embrace having swagger and playing the game at a high level, you're a "thug". Doesn't matter if you're actually involved in some criminal activity, because we all know what people who throw that word around really mean anyways. But if you try and classily sidestep the issue of race and posit that peoples' dislike of you isn't based on such a tawdry, mean spirited, ugly thing like bigotry, then hey, you must be an uncle tom (at least according to dummies like the dude who implied RG III wasn't black enough, his name escapes me), or an egomaniac who thinks he can inspire hate with his "specialness". What the gently caress?
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Feb 6, 2016 03:46
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Christine Brennan has been making GBS threads out awful hot takes for many years and I don't think she was what was holding back women from advancing in sports media.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:gently caress, black athletes can't win. It feels like if you embrace having swagger and playing the game at a high level, you're a "thug". Doesn't matter if you're actually involved in some criminal activity, because we all know what people who throw that word around really mean anyways. Rob Parker, Detroit's dumbest media personality.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:gently caress, black athletes can't win. It feels like if you embrace having swagger and playing the game at a high level, you're a "thug". Doesn't matter if you're actually involved in some criminal activity, because we all know what people who throw that word around really mean anyways. The general dislike for athlete's having egos is ridiculous to me. Cam Newton earned the right to think he's good at football by being really good at football.
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Not to mention that I don't think there has been any point in Peyton Manning's life that he wasn't an arrogant SOB.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Not to mention that I don't think there has been any point in Peyton Manning's life that he wasn't an arrogant SOB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FlwJwL6kdo
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Inspector_666 posted:The general dislike for athlete's having egos is ridiculous to me. Cam Newton earned the right to think he's good at football by being really good at football. What's incredible about this double standard is if you bring up a great player like Ty Cobb who was known for being an egotistical, bigoted, violent rear end in a top hat, they just brush it off as "it was different time then", as if that makes up for his behavior. Now, read this 1500 word "thinkpiece" on why I think Cam Newton is overrated, and should be replaced with Steve Beurelein.
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On the other hand, Russell Wilson is portrayed as a choir boy by the media. I haven't heard a single negative thing written or said about him. My guess is that his personality is "aww shucks, between Jesus and visiting sick kids in the hospital I play a little football." To be fair to RW, I don't think that's what he's really like, more like a persona the media created for him. I'm assuming he's just as "arrogant" as any highly successful athlete. It's funny how he gets a pass though.
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Inspector_666 posted:The general dislike for athlete's having egos is ridiculous to me. Cam Newton earned the right to think he's good at football by being really good at football. Hockey media does the same thing to PK Subban. It's not just ego, it really is skin color AND ego that they can't stand.
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Disillusionist posted:On the other hand, Russell Wilson is portrayed as a choir boy by the media. I haven't heard a single negative thing written or said about him. My guess is that his personality is "aww shucks, This is totally 100% the difference and it totally has nothing whatsoever to do with Wilson looking less black and acting less
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El Gallinero Gros posted:What's incredible about this double standard is if you bring up a great player like Ty Cobb who was known for being an egotistical, bigoted, violent rear end in a top hat, they just brush it off as "it was different time then", as if that makes up for his behavior. Now, read this 1500 word "thinkpiece" on why I think Cam Newton is overrated, and should be replaced with Steve Beurelein.
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Feb 6, 2016 18:05
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When Cam was miked up this year he basically just talked poo poo the entire time, it's great
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morestuff posted:When Cam was miked up this year he basically just talked poo poo the entire time, it's great He doesn't really talk poo poo at all in that other than making fun of the ref for looking young 
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'bro i'm telling you my cadence game is ridiculous' lmao
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MourningView posted:He doesn't really talk poo poo at all in that other than making fun of the ref for looking young Him getting in the defenders' faces and asking them why they're leaving, "the fishing's good here" Edit: Oh weird, it looks like there's two different versions. Here's the one I was thinking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udHmx3H6bi8
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morestuff posted:Him getting in the defenders' faces and asking them why they're leaving, "the fishing's good here" Ok that makes a little more sense instead of none, but what they showed was still mostly a guy having fun. Although I guess they could have cut a lot of trash talk. Someone here claimed QBs talk the most poo poo out of any position according to some former player which stuns me if true, I would have bet money it'd be receivers and corners jawing the most. vv--fun of the not trash talk variety I meant. I kind of agree with that statement though. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Yeah, talking poo poo is fun. I'm including stuff like him dumping on Tolbert's dance and giving Olsen a hard time
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Who the gently caress cares if some dumbass NFL QB is an rear end in a top hat or isn't?
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Peanut President posted:Who the gently caress cares if some dumbass NFL QB is an rear end in a top hat or isn't? Columnists. Especially if the QB is black
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Found the weirdest coat at a second hand store the other day: Which immediately made me sad that Grantland doesn't exist anymore (despite its flaws) because they wrote a great article about Sports Phone like a year ago. e: holy gently caress breaking tables
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