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tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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Why does a 140-character limit compel someone to use as few characters as possible? It's like reading the classifieds.

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tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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Brace yourselves, the annual Fangraphs organizational rankings are coming:

Dave Cameron posted:

With a new wave of front office talent crashing into front offices are furious rates, it’s nearly impossible to turn over a front office and not get an analytical upgrade in the process, but the Orioles may have accomplished exactly that this winter.


Such prose

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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I CHALLENGE THEE posted:

Just in case you wondered if fangraphs writers could embarrass themselves any more

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/in...ptember-7-2012/

"I don't know if I'll ever be known at all, but if I am, being called "that baseball writer guy who loves ponies" isn't so bad, really.”

In the last few weeks, I've read three or four Fangraphs articles and thought, "Wow, this is actually decent. You don't see that much on FG. Who wrote this?"

Turns out it was Jeff Sullivan. Every single time.

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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Everybody's favourite 11-time Sportswriter of the year:

https://twitter.com/ReillyRick/stat...tw_p=tweetembed

I could find ten better writers at a My Little Pony convention posted:

Dear Seamheads: Please explain how Miguel Cabrera can be 1 HR away from a Triple Crown + some of u r still talking Mike Trout MVP? #GetCable

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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It's always funny to read baseball writers accidentally make a decent criticism of WAR, but keep building on it until they've narrowed all relevant statistics down to wins and RBI.

Let's watch our friend Jerry Green of The Detroit News do that now, shall we?
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...ON03/209290399/

quote:

ESPN claims that Trout merits the MVP award — despite Cabrera's possible Triple Crown — on the basis of WAR. This is not the kind of war that Ted Williams fought in twice amidst his Triple Crown-style seasons. Or the war that brought Willie Mays into the Army during his career.

It is that relatively new "Moneyball" style of crackpot Sabermetrics stat described as wins above replacement. Whatever that means.

Mike Trout's WAR numbers are juggled into a figure higher than Cabrera's.

Oh, my goodness!

WAR — and there are versions disseminated by both websites Baseball-Reference.com and fangraphs.com — includes more skills than pure hitting and hitting for power. Stolen bases are considered, a number that actually can be counted.

Fielding likewise counts.

Just how fielding figures in … well, you look and watch. And then guess, and perhaps the guess works. Or doesn't. And then the figure person tries to measure how an ordinary replacement player might compare to the established high-skilled player.

Once upon a time, the MVP was not decided on the basis of some imaginary numbers that are jammed into a murky, invented stat such as WAR.

Again, Major League Baseball has not had a rookie of Mike Trout's magnitude since Willie Mays in 1951. And the sport has not been adorned by a Triple Crown winner since Carl Yastrzemski in 1967.

Unlike WAR there is no stat in Sabermetrics known as LOGIC.

And oops, WAR does not figure in baseball's most important statistic — finishing in first place during the regular season. The Tigers are aimed — likely — for a first-place finish in their division now that all the white flags in Detroit have been ripped down.

A ballplayer who leads his team to a first-place finish — nothing could be more valuable.

There is no doubt that Mike Trout is first over Miguel Cabrera in both WAR I and WAR II.

But Cabrera is first in the American League.

The Tigers are currently seventh in the American League.

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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Since we can't rely on "invented" statistics to determine the MVP, it looks like we'll have to give it to whoever has the highest of the following non-"invented" stats:


tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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hcreight posted:

He literally thinks this is how WAR works.

The best logical-extreme example of this kind of thinking were the people saying Peyton Manning should have won the NFL MVP last year without playing a game.

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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Guess who wrote a baseball article again

It's just a rehash of all the arguments for Mike Trout as AL MVP (that mentions WAR a convenient zero times), but he might as well do something between now and the 2014 House races.

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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Cameron had a rebuttal to Jim Caple's WAR article last week that basically amounted to "Well, WAR isn't the perfect statistic, but it's definitely the best one."

I think Jeff Sullivan and Dayn Perry are okay at Fangraphs, although they're less about analysis and more about kickin' rad GIFs and whatever NotGraphs is, respectively.

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tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

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The 2013 award for Saltiest Tears of the Year goes to Dennis Latta, a reporter who followed the University of New Mexico Lobos for 33 years and is quitting his job because they lost to Harvard.

http://deadspin.com/a-new-mexico-be...cause-458421252

http://newmexico.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1486756

tinstaach fucked around with this message at Mar 23, 2013 around 00:11

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