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Metal Loaf posted:I believe the guy I was describing used the screen name "Darth Grandiloquous" but they could very well be the same person. What I've learned over the past years is there are a lot of people who apparently unironically believe all of that.
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Been reading Tarkin and I'm enjoining it so far. One tiny thing I like is that the chapters actually have names now. I stopped reading after NJO so I'm guessing this is new?
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Nckdictator posted:Been reading Tarkin and I'm enjoining it so far. One tiny thing I like is that the chapters actually have names now. I stopped reading after NJO so I'm guessing this is new?
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If any of you nerds are interested, I'm selling the complete X-Wing Rogue/Wraith Squadron series* (with I, Jedi thrown in) over in SA Mart. I'll just give you the drat Klingon dictionaries if you buy the set. *They haven't came out with any new ones in like ten years, right?
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Pompous Rhombus posted:If any of you nerds are interested, I'm selling the complete X-Wing Rogue/Wraith Squadron series* (with I, Jedi thrown in) over in SA Mart. A newer one came out in 2012 or 13 called Mercy Kill that took place during or after Fate of the Jedi. e: Released in 2012, takes place during the last Fate of the Jedi book, and is the last Rogue/Wraith book (probably) e2: and is also a fairly decent book. I enjoyed it at least Strong Mouse fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q6utsksoFY
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Got to the part in Tarkin that "Sheev" is spoken. Doesn't seem necessary and Luceno established that Palps hated his given name, so I wonder if the Story Group told him to do it.
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Casimir Radon posted:Got to the part in Tarkin that "Sheev" is spoken. Doesn't seem necessary and Luceno established that Palps hated his given name, so I wonder if the Story Group told him to do it. Wait, Palpatine's given name is "Sheev"?!? 
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Nov 11, 2014 19:59
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 Look at this face. That is the face of a Sheev. Edit: It's short for Sheeven. Sheeven Palpatine. Hiro Protagonist fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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Nov 11, 2014 23:07
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Edit: It's short for Sheeven. Sheeven Palpatine. Can't help but think but think of this scene from The Cable Guy
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If Palpatine shows up in the new movies I want them to work in a line about how him and Luke are even, Sheeven.
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Can't help but think but think of this scene from The Cable Guy I imagine his reaction is this when it is used in present company.
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Just a few EU things that have shown up in Tarkin: Gromas and Phrik Ubiqtorate Armand Isard
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Hiro Protagonist posted:
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Casimir Radon posted:Just a few EU things that have shown up in Tarkin: I'm still making my way through it, but there are a ton more, too. Really, other than the Jedi Temple/Imperial Palace, Amedda as Grand Vizier, and the new streamlined Death Star history, everything else seems like it's basically in line with the old EU. Which isn't too surprising considering it's Luceno and was probably pretty significantly underway by the time the new canon decision was made.
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Don't forget the gunboats from TIE fighter! At least, that's what I choose to believe every mention of an imperial or republic gunboat is referring to
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Chairman Capone posted:I'm still making my way through it, but there are a ton more, too.
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They were first announced with the canon reboot back in April, there's no way they weren't being worked on before then if they're coming out on September/November. And we know for a fact that at least one of the books announced then (Heir to the Jedi) had its manuscript finished before the canon reboot, and was even originally part of an old-canon trilogy.
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You know, if they're going to make crazy new lightsabers, the least they could do is make like, a light spear or axe or glaive or scythe or something. Gundam has been doing that for years!
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:That's all I could see, I swear. God dammit, now that's all I can see, too.
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Chairman Capone posted:They were first announced with the canon reboot back in April, there's no way they weren't being worked on before then if they're coming out on September/November. And we know for a fact that at least one of the books announced then (Heir to the Jedi) had its manuscript finished before the canon reboot, and was even originally part of an old-canon trilogy.
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:
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Maybe so, but "Roddy" doesn't rhyme with "Sheeven" very well.
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I've always been put off from reading Star Wars books mostly because of just how many books there were, so I'm one of the few who seems to actually be happy about this restart of the expanded universe (basically allowing me to get into it while it's just starting). I got both New Dawn and Tarkin today. Should I be reading them in publication order or are they fine to read in any order? (I'm guessing they're both completely unrelated, but just wanted to make sure there's no plot points or anything carried between them that would benefit from reading in publication order).
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Keeku posted:I've always been put off from reading Star Wars books mostly because of just how many books there were, so I'm one of the few who seems to actually be happy about this restart of the expanded universe (basically allowing me to get into it while it's just starting). Completely unrelated. Read Tarkin if you're more in the mood for a slow methodical political story, read New Dawn if you're more up for a classic action adventure. Be advised that despite the reboot, Tarkin contains tons of references to the EU and The Clone Wars, which, depending on your fandom, might make you happy or make the book near incomprehensible at certain times.
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Dave Syndrome posted:Be advised that despite the reboot, Tarkin contains tons of references to the EU and The Clone Wars, which, depending on your fandom, might make you happy or make the book near incomprehensible at certain times. I've watched most of the Clone Wars series, but have not read much of the old EU except for a couple books when I was a kid. Hopefully it won't be a problem...
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Keeku posted:I've watched most of the Clone Wars series, but have not read much of the old EU except for a couple books when I was a kid. Hopefully it won't be a problem... Not so much of a problem per se, but with Luceno you sometimes wonder why he feels the need to show off how much he knows about Star Wars. When describing a starship, it's never enough to say that it's similar to one type of other ship, it has to be similar to three different kinds. When describing the location of a planet, it's never "near Tatooine", but "near Tatooine, not far from the Hapes Cluster and 112 parsecs from the Hydian Way in the Greater Seswenna" or something unwieldy like that. (I know that probably makes no sense if you look at a galaxy map, I made this example up to illustrate a point and I'm too lazy to look up actual quotes.) Add to that his compulsion to reference events from both his previous novels and the TV show (even though they almost never have any bearing on the plot at hand), and you get a lot of clutter that even to someone who knows the EU seems like the kid at the front of the class constantly raising his hand and going "Please, teacher, pick me! Look how clever I am!" To someone who hasn't read a lot of EU stuff, I can only imagine it feels pretty bewildering. "Will this bit be important later on? Why is he mentioning it?" Because he can. I'm sure there are people who love that kind of stuff, but to me the storytelling suffers because of it. Dave Syndrome fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Dave Syndrome posted:I'm sure there are people who love that kind of stuff, but to me the storytelling suffers because of it. Ah yeah I get what you mean. I appreciate the heads up on that and will keep it in mind as I'm reading it.
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Dave Syndrome posted:Not so much of a problem per se, but with Luceno you sometimes wonder why he feels the need to show off how much he knows about Star Wars. When describing a starship, it's never enough to say that it's similar to one type of other ship, it has to be similar to three different kinds. When describing the location of a planet, it's never "near Tatooine", but "near Tatooine, not far from the Hapes Cluster and 112 parsecs from the Hydian Way in the Greater Seswenna" or something unwieldy like that. (I know that probably makes no sense if you look at a galaxy map, I made this example up to illustrate a point and I'm too lazy to look up actual quotes.) I'm not sure if it's necessarily "showing off" (or at least it doesn't seem like he's showing off on purpose) so much as it is Luceno trying to add some element of depth or verisimilitude to the series and making the setting feel "lived-in". To me, it's not especially different from references to the spice mines of Kessel, the dissolution of the Imperial Senate or even Han Solo off-handedly commenting that he can even outrun "the big Correllian ships" in the dialogue of A New Hope. These references aren't explained, but they're evocative; it helps to create the impression that there's a wide world beyond the protagonists. (Of course, as you observe, not everyone likes that in the first place; maybe it's just easier to slip naturally into the dialogue in a movie than it is to incorporate it into the narration in a prose story. I can't write, so I can't tell.) Maybe it's not always elegantly done when Luceno does it, but it seems to me as though it's just a feature of how he writes in general and his world-building sensibilities (which I think are influenced a lot by Frank Herbert's Dune) in particular; indeed, it's my understanding Luceno received similar criticism when he was co-writing the Robotech adaptations with Brian Daley in the 1980s. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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I'll admit that I'm curious about what kind of changes the new canon will make to Space Geography and scale, and whether the Disney-era storygroup will bother establishing that stuff to the same degree. This is mostly because I enjoy the Star Wars franchise's long, proud history of accidentally blundering into cool ideas while trying to flesh out those peripheral matters.
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Well, Tarkin has already changed things by placing Naboo in the Outer Rim and making it so that it, Tatooine, and Eriadu are all close to each other.
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Metal Loaf posted:I'm not sure if it's necessarily "showing off" (or at least it doesn't seem like he's showing off on purpose) so much as it is Luceno trying to add some element of depth or verisimilitude to the series and making the setting feel "lived-in". To me, it's not especially different from references to the spice mines of Kessel, the dissolution of the Imperial Senate or even Han Solo off-handedly commenting that he can even outrun "the big Correllian ships" in the dialogue of A New Hope. These references aren't explained, but they're evocative; it helps to create the impression that there's a wide world beyond the protagonists. This is what made the Robotech novels good.
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There's a guy posting in the TheForce.Net thread for the Tarkin novel who seems to be autistic or something, he keeps talking about how Tarkin isn't a villain because Cushing didn't portray him that way and the movie trying to make him seem like a villain is because Lucas was distorting the "real" Tarkin...whatever that means. It's bizarre and creepy even by TFN poster standards. Also Marvel released the second cover to their new Darth Vader comic and already the variant shows Vader fighting Doctor Doom. Surprised they didn't just start off the crossovers with the first issue.
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At my last job I heard a story about some coworkers who decided to start a thread on a Star Wars fansite - I think it was TFN - theorizing about the identity of Han's mysterious friend 'Dustin Crops'. People went batshit trying to explain it to them. Unfortunately I can't find the thread Googling around a bit 
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General Battuta posted:At my last job I heard a story about some coworkers who decided to start a thread on a Star Wars fansite - I think it was TFN - theorizing about the identity of Han's mysterious friend 'Dustin Crops'. People went batshit trying to explain it to them. Unfortunately I can't find the thread Googling around a bit Heheh. Dustin Crops, co-pilot of Manny Boffins. This was during the rule of Frank Palpatine, if I remember correctly.
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Dave Syndrome posted:Heheh. Dustin Crops, co-pilot of Manny Boffins. This was during the rule of Frank Palpatine, if I remember correctly. When the galaxy feared the mighty warlord, Nooch Vader.
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General Battuta posted:Oh, is this some tired Family Guy joke or something Manny Boffins died to get those Death Star plans. Have some respect 
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