|
Poorly acted and overwrought cutscenes are like, the best part about beating those games. They were proper rewards, much like Blizzard's cinematics, and CnC (where the gameplay was poo poo but the cinematics were always the best). KOTOR and 2 are also piles of crap.
|
#
¿
Aug 15, 2010 22:19
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:11 |
|
|
SeanBeansShako posted:This mans avatar, surely you at least like HK-47 at least arioch. In that he was the only character that wasn't straight up copied out of the generic Bioware RPG game, yes. Apart from that, the aesthetic of the game and the setting in general they mashed together severely grates and the Dark Side was basically a travesty. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 15, 2010 |
|
#
¿
Aug 15, 2010 23:26
|
|
|
Shimrra Jamaane posted:I too hate critically acclaimed popular games. What is your opinion on Bioshock and the Legend of Zelda series? Legend of Zelda has been awful lately in case you haven't noticed, and while Bioshock 1 was insightful AND fun Bioshock 2 was a terrible cash-in effort. Is this supposed to be an appeal to popularity thing? Because I'm pretty sure the prequel movies have made Lucas about 15 billion bucks so far. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Aug 16, 2010 |
|
#
¿
Aug 16, 2010 01:34
|
|
|
Shimrra Jamaane posted:No, can't say I have. TP was great and WW is a constant fan favorite (except the triforce hunting). Just ask in the Zelda thread. But I guess we are the ones who are wrong and we should stop having fun. Anyway, I'm just saying that there are a lot of reasons to think that KoTOR is a fantastic game and few to think it is objectionably horrible like you do. Spirit Tracks, Phantom Hourglass, etc. TP was pretty good to excellent, though, because it almost never lapsed into the raw retarded gimmickry of WW, PH, ST.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 16, 2010 04:31
|
|
|
Yeah but even Minish Cap managed to be a pretty good game. Also, no true Scotsman.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 16, 2010 04:43
|
|
|
What, really? The telepathic commands I've been sending LFL are finally taking hold? First Traviss is gone, now Allston is going back to Wraith Squadron ... can we boot Troy Denning yet?
|
|
#
¿
Aug 16, 2010 05:12
|
|
|
Slantedfloors posted:I find the idea the Alderaan had no weapons kind of stupid, what with the clearly armed Security Staff on their clearly armed Blockade Runner. Those could likely be Senate security with rebel sympathies. Leia sends down a call to Captain Antilles from her senatorial offices: "gather a couple hundred men you absolutely trust, we're going on a little trip..."
|
|
#
¿
Aug 16, 2010 17:50
|
|
|
There's really nothing to like in LotF. 1) Characters are retarded 2) Karen Traviss is ... awful for all the reasons already listed 3) Troy Denning is CRIMINALLY inept 4) Aaron Allston is passive aggressively wrecking his entries And at the end of it all nobody at all wanted the story they told in LotF.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 04:04
|
|
|
Val Helmethead posted:The best way to look at the LotF and FotJ series of books is to see the 2nd and 3rd books as long and overdone background material in preparation for the next Aaron Allston book. Until Allston sticks Anakin the Centerpoint Station into his book, or Dab Hantaq, or whatever, just to be gratuitously bad.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 05:13
|
|
|
arioch posted:Until Allston sticks Anakin the Centerpoint Station into his book, or Dab Hantaq, or whatever, just to be gratuitously bad. Or Darth Vectivus.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 05:29
|
|
|
Literal poopsocking.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 14:13
|
|
|
They should've tried to go with the 3 seashells.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 15:10
|
|
|
AcridWhistle posted:How does timeoff work in Star Wars? 2 holidays every week.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 17:46
|
|
|
Link to the original liquorhead thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2393061
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 20:11
|
|
|
Maogu Hucho. Sounds like some sort of luchador.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 20:38
|
|
|
ffoecaf posted:
He does, for a year or so.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2010 21:52
|
|
|
Thrawn is a very "ends justifies the means" kind of guy and that's the BEST you can say about him, morally. He's still an interesting multi-layered character, though.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 18, 2010 00:57
|
|
|
arioch posted:Thrawn is a very "ends justifies the means" kind of guy and that's the BEST you can say about him, morally. Ok here, this is the best way I've found to describe Thrawn: Thrawn is The Empire Strikes Back, personified. He's cold, he's competent, he actually wins.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 18, 2010 01:23
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:But imagine Vader coming up to you like "Hey, I got this race of super loyal assassins who actually love serving us. You want in, or should I just let them go free?" If you don't pass that up you are literally evil. Just throwing that out there. T-1000 posted:Also I'm pretty sure he wiped all life off the surface of some planet. Caamas maybe. I recall him mentioning it to some underling, showing him a vase and saying he destroyed the world it came from. But hey he's a more interesting character than 99.9% of the rest, we can forgive him a few genocides and enslavement and tyranny. It wasn't Caamas, it was a planet out in the Unknown Regions, populated by a race that opposed him yet he was unable to Understand. Aside from that, Thrawn is one of the few Star Wars villains who kills more enemies than he gets his own side killed. Think about it.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 18, 2010 01:43
|
|
|
SeanBeansShako posted:How do we know said Jedi didn't have those weird personal shields on that the Jedi Knight and KOTOR series has introduced? More like Daala ends up the leader of the New New Republic. And somehow a fighter jock got elevated to the Emperor spot in the same paragraph.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 18, 2010 14:25
|
|
|
AcridWhistle posted:So he just waited 35 or more years? And then went HAL9000 over it. That's literally how bad Troy Denning is.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 20, 2010 03:59
|
|
|
Reminder that despite how badass Lando is in the in Empire Strikes Back (orchestrating an insurrection and evacuation from right under the nose of Darth Vader, the Imperial Fleet, AND his personal Super Star Destroyer) the latter EU basically has him running one implausible scheme after another, incompetently, disastrously, then has him as a golddigging bastard who marries for money and whose legacy will be remembered as creating an army of robots who were designed to fight and win a war against the Yuuzhan Vong but instead got co-opted into weapons to hunt down Jedi with by Unreconstructed Imperial Admiral turned Galactic Chief of State "Natasi" Daala.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 21, 2010 15:22
|
|
|
It'll be hilarious if Luke's still around in Legacy time period. Or Luuuke.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 22, 2010 06:17
|
|
|
Command and Conquer was pretty terrible and was known as the spam-the-tanks gimmick RTS since LONG before EAW, so I'm not sure what you were expecting.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 24, 2010 22:16
|
|
|
Chaos Hippy posted:Yoda was the Grandmaster in the prequels. The criticism of Luke being Grandmaster is not because he pulled the title out of his rear end, but because he gave it to himself. Mind you, he also named himself a Jedi Master. Thanks to Kevin J. Anderson, so I guess Troy Denning had to go one up KJA again. Really, Dark Nest is basically Troy Denning's love letter to KJA's complete tripe, and in it Troy Denning is here and there saying "look at what I can do" and "here's how I would have handled X".
|
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2010 00:09
|
|
|
deadguy posted:Boy this combination of words will NEVER get old. That bad guy's called Abeloth this time, huh? Yeah def gonna buy this one in hardcover. Abeloth is ~*~*~*~*~*FORCE CTHULHU*~*~*~*~*~
|
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2010 14:09
|
|
|
Add that to the fact that for the most part neither side is willing or capable of wiping out an entire planet (Toprawa, Caamas, Alderaan, etc., are exceptions) and you can see how it could potentially be possible to fortify a planet with relatively "few" forces such that the other side wouldn't be willing to attempt to conquer it. Zahn even described it that way in The Last Command when he had Thrawn take Ukio with sleight of hand. And really, at that point the Rebel Alliance didn't have THAT many planets that openly supported it. DougieC posted:That the Empire would lack the resources to smash openly rebelling planets prior to ROTJ doesn't sit well with me though. I just can't picture the GCW as a land grab a la the Empire at War or Rebellion games. That's why games aren't canon. gently caress TFU.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2010 17:18
|
|
|
DougieC posted:Yes, but my point is that in EU literature (and games like X-Wing) you have races that are in open rebellion: the Mon Calamari, the Sullustans, maybe the Bothans, but I find that impossible to stomach when the Empire has an overwhelming military/logistical advantage surely capable of making GBS threads up any planet of its choosing. Surely the only way to evade such a force is to keep on the move and be all guerilla warfare. You blow up a few planets and fear of it's an effective tool, you blow up a few more planets and then the general population goes into open revolt anyway. At least, that's how you'd justify it in Star Wars. The Rebels generally set up their actual bases in out of the way backwater planets (gently caress the EU for making Hoth the second Tatooine) so the Empire has no idea where they're at to justify glassing an entire planet to get them. Which they only have to do because of the existence of planetary shielding. It makes sense. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 25, 2010 |
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2010 17:43
|
|
|
Pops Mgee posted:Back to the whole force aneurysm discussion, would you really want the jedi to be even more powerful? Maybe Lucas should've come up with better enemies and actual tension instead
|
|
#
¿
Aug 29, 2010 00:11
|
|
|
He's still not really a character.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 30, 2010 05:17
|
|
|
Somebody should ask Aaron Allston what went wrong, i.e. Centerpoint-Anakin Solo, Darth Vectivus, whatshisface the Anakin Solo look-alike, etc.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 31, 2010 06:20
|
|
|
Crowetron posted:I prefer to think some Lucasbooks (or Del Ray, or whoever is in charge now) exec was all "Okay, Aaron, now you have to write about Jedis and poo poo. No more Wedge." If I had to work with anybody named "Troy" I'd probably shoot myself.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 31, 2010 08:15
|
|
|
It's worse than that ... in Shadows of the Empire his deal was that he could use the Dark Side to help revitalize his organs and tissue so that he could breathe without the mask, then he gets happy about it and then loses his hold on the Dark Side. edit: ^^^ ARGGHHHH VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Sep 2, 2010 |
|
#
¿
Sep 2, 2010 02:53
|
|
|
Mister Roboto posted:You know, The EU is basically glorified fanfiction. Troy Denning is the one I could say is very much overtly doing just that, actually, treating it all as his own personal playground and saying "well I could do better..." but he can't. Most of the rest have either too few entries to establish a pattern or actually have some reverence for working in the franchise.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 2, 2010 15:24
|
|
|
SeanBeansShako posted:I'd totally read the gently caress out of that book. Maybe Allegiance #3. Somebody go pitch this to Zahn.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 2, 2010 23:41
|
|
|
TheLoquid posted:Palpatine should have been Caesar - beloved by the people of the Republic even as the Senators fear his growing influence. That Palpatine really only shows up in some of the prequel era novels. Particularly the RotS novelization.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 8, 2010 03:25
|
|
|
Big Mean Jerk posted:Twilight with sparkly armor is the best way to describe Traviss's books. Didn't I say that special forces characters in rightwing wingnut nutjob fiction are basically the equivalent of vampires for the Twilight crowd?
|
|
#
¿
Sep 8, 2010 22:49
|
|
|
There are lots of Very Bad Things about the reverse grip for anything but short single-edged blades used in extreme close quarters combat. The lightsaber is LONG and ALL EDGE. edit: Basically what I'm trying to say is that looking "cool" is no excuse when used over anything that is actually rear end-blindingly obviously stupid/bad/retarded/etc. And really, this is one of the core complaints against the entire PT. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Sep 9, 2010 |
|
#
¿
Sep 9, 2010 22:58
|
|
|
Buy a suit from somebody who makes them in the 501st.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 11, 2010 22:37
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:11 |
|
|
EG posted:I know people don't talk poo poo on Michael Stackpole's XWing books in this thread, BUT I just read them all and the one thing that really bothered me was how in every book at least 1 character dies, but then NOPE they're actually alive the whole time, everyone just thought they were dead. It gets to the point where you know anyone who dies is coming back. In Isard's Revenge basically every single character thinks the other characters are dead, AND the bad guy they killed in a previous book is back with her clone... Think of them as novelizations of comic books (except without the actual comic books).
|
|
#
¿
Sep 13, 2010 23:09
|
|