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I finished Swan Song and "mixed feelings" sums up the experience. Like others said before, it felt like the story tried to explore too many ideas without developing any of them significantly. Honestly what I hated the most was the seemingly arbitrary reasoning behind why rescue never comes, why the snow storm lasts for MONTHS (ignoring the fact that this would have buried everyone). So, the earthquake was predicted by some people, but it's never explained why or how. Man-made? Armageddon? Whatever. But I guess we're supposed to take it at face value that something truly awful happened to the whole world, because a realistic government response never comes. It irritates me I guess because it feels like very sloppy handwaving to provide a reason for lawlessness to continue. Frankly, all I could think about during the course of the story is how much better the anime Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 handled an earthquake disaster story. A lot of things were never really explained or developed either, like what the deal was with Aroe. I mean given that she's a pretty major character I guess her issues are supposed to be symbolic of or analogous to the situation in general, but I don't feel this was handled very well. To be frank you could remove her from the story entirely without affecting it too much in my opinion. The ghost Yuka was talking to in the Good End was just kind of...there, as well. A kind of hilarious "gently caress you" to the players who chose to gently caress Taeko. Oh, who am I kidding, I'm sure there's a plenty large enough audience who was just fine with that choice. Also funny how Tsukasa never brings up how hosed up it was for the mother to knowingly try to get them to gently caress in the first place. I got two endings, which as I understand it is everything. One was so overly grim and nihilistic to the point where it became mostly comedic (I particularly laughed at the THIS IS SYMBOLISM raising of the Jesus Christ statue), and the other is just vague and overly cheery without providing any real closure. 6/10, I guess.
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Phlogistic posted:Just reached what I think is the halfway point in Remember11, and so far this is pretty much the most confusing thing I've ever played. While I wouldn't say I liked the ending, I didn't find it disappointing as such, and I wouldn't say it was a cop-out. It just... wasn't what I was expecting. I still found the game enjoyable throughout, ending included.
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 02:13 |
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I can't say I hated Remember11, and really, I mostly liked it up until then. It just took all that inertia that the plot was building up and slammed ungracefully into a wall. It's like when I stay up all night writing an essay and suddenly go "gently caress it, I'm done." There are a lot of things that go completely unaddressed, and I don't think they did those on purpose. Also, plot holes.
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 19:20 |
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I just finished Muv-Luv Extra and Unlimited due to reading about it in this thread. I saw the description and image in the OP and couldn't believe that this  could be as good as it was. And then I spent my entire day off, from early last night, marathoning this. I can't wait for Alternative.
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 21:56 |
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Please tell me there is a font hack for Kira Kira like with Higurashi, because my word that default font is bad. At least I was able to duplicate the UI Removal hack from Higurashi Kai to get rid of the UI in the corner. BGI must reuse a decent amount of assets game to game. E: I mean I've found a lot of ipl._bp hacks, but they don't seem to work. I guess they don't work with the All Ages version or something. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at Oct 19, 2010 around 00:27 |
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Suoinoleht posted:I just finished Muv-Luv Extra and Unlimited due to reading about it in this thread. Yeah, it's pretty great. Muv Luv Alternative is currently at about 75% for the first partial patch and between 20-25% done overall. Nate RFB posted:Please tell me there is a font hack for Kira Kira like with Higurashi, because my word that default font is bad. http://www.mediafire.com/?zntxjzgjilv - This should work. I never used it though, since I didn't have a problem with the default font.
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jonjonaug posted:http://www.mediafire.com/?zntxjzgjilv - This should work. I never used it though, since I didn't have a problem with the default font.  Click here for the full 800x600 image. More than anything else it just needs to be bolded. E: Yep, the font hack only works on the ero version 
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The Komari route of Little Busters has been released, for those of you following this project
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| # ? Oct 20, 2010 03:12 |
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Just finished Remember11. Was secretly hoping that the whole ending thing was just over-exaggerated, but man, what a disappointing way to end it. At least going through all the TIPs and using some deduction gives you a pretty decent grasp of what's going on. Though I never once saw any mention or hint (maybe I just don't remember right) of Yukidoh Sayaka, who turns out to be a pretty major part of the story.Phlogistic posted:It's like when I stay up all night writing an essay and suddenly go "gently caress it, I'm done." There are a lot of things that go completely unaddressed, and I don't think they did those on purpose. I can't even begin to explain how well this describes the ending. Overall still a good game I thought, would definitely recommend playing through it if you enjoy mystery/suspense and don't mind ending without everything directly explained to you. CardTech fucked around with this message at Oct 22, 2010 around 10:54 |
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CardTech posted:Though I never once saw any mention or hint (maybe I just don't remember right) of Yukidoh Sayaka, who turns out to be a pretty major part of the story. I'm pretty sure she's the girl in the hospital bed who appears in the introduction. But yeah, barely hinted at at all.
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CardTech posted:Though I never once saw any mention or hint (maybe I just don't remember right) of Yukidoh Sayaka, who turns out to be a pretty major part of the story. There isn't (except for the scene Phlogistic mentions), but personally I don't consider it to be that major. (Major Remember11 spoilers)As far as this story is concerned, it's enough to say that Satoru's goals were to test the quantum teleportation technology and to save Tobirin. His other intended applications of the technology are kind of irrelevant (especially now that Enomoto's dead and Satoru doesn't remember them). The hints and background information we get about them are just that; background. I feel the problem is that because the story ends on a couple of cliffhangers, all the background information becomes a lot more important to us because we hope it may resolve those cliffhangers. But the background information is incomplete because it's just that, background - so we end up feeling unsatisfied.
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| # ? Oct 22, 2010 15:14 |
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For anyone interested in new releases, Tengu Translations have just released an english version of a really good free VN called Tokyo Alice. Unfortunately, the translation is terrible. It's accurate and understandable, but the translator clearly isn't a native English speaker and there's been no attempt to proofread or edit it; the game suffers greatly as a result. I really can't recommend it to anyone unless you consider yourself entirely immune to Engrish (or possibly Spanglish?). Hopefully they (or someone else) will release a version 2 sometime to improve it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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quote:* Ixrec|MLA is now known as Ixrec Hurray! Editing/other stuff should take about a week or so if Ammy goes at their normal pace, then we'll have the first partial patch for MLA. EDIT Quote 2 from Ixrec. quote:Coup d'etat Arc translation is now complete. jonjonaug fucked around with this message at Oct 27, 2010 around 02:55 |
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Fantastic, looking forward to reading the translation of this. Got to agree with Ixrec though, the Coup d'etat Arc is definitely more dry than the rest of the game (as is expected from the beginning portion of the game). There are a few interesting aspects, but overall there isn't a lot of action/drama/suspense when compared to later parts. After this arc the game really takes off.
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| # ? Oct 27, 2010 03:48 |
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I'm having some trouble getting planetarian to run. The game itself runs fine without the english patch. I can install the patch but it crashes when I enter the program. Does it have anything to do with running applications while installing it? I closed my windows but I think steam and bittorrent were still running.I've tried shutting down and restarting but it doesn't help. Should I try downloading the patch again? Sorry if this info is next to useless, I'm generally horrid with computers so I'm at a loss on what's the problem. If anyone has any clue on what to do, that'll be great. Edit: I'm running on windows vista if that's any help. Holy Beergut fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2010 around 15:42 |
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Holy Beergut posted:I'm having some trouble getting planetarian to run. Where did you get the game? I think that the patch only works with the original release, not the updated release with voice acting.
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| # ? Oct 28, 2010 23:18 |
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Cake Attack posted:Where did you get the game? I think that the patch only works with the original release, not the updated release with voice acting. I got it from http://www2.bgamebox.com/, I followed the link posted in the OP and went from there. I'm not sure if mine is the one with voice acting or not.I'm a bit rushed for time so I can't check right now. If it is, am I screwed? Do I have any options left?
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| # ? Oct 28, 2010 23:56 |
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Holy Beergut posted:I got it from http://www2.bgamebox.com/, I followed the link posted in the OP and went from there. If you check, make sure you actually get into the game itself, the very beginning has voice acting regardless. Also keep in mind this is just speculation, your problem could very well be something else. The website for the patch has some information on how to buy the game and how to install the patch:http://planetarian.insani.org/guide.html. Maybe try seeing if your patch is properly installed. Also, I would wait on doing something like buying a new copy before asking someone else, I'm not fantastic with computers either.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2010 00:54 |
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I don't think it has voice acting. The encounter with the planetarian girl didn't have any voice acting. I followed that guide on the website. Some things had changed from the time the guide was released till now like the changing of the website to buy it I believe but I managed to muddle through and purchase it. I didn't install it like the guide stated though, I think it was more like extracting it.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2010 01:16 |
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I haven't ever encountered this specific problem before, but is your computer set to Japanese locale? That can solve lot of problems when running visual novels, and really the only drawback is that your computer sometimes displays the yen symbol instead of the backslash. You can also use AppLocale, but I've found that it isn't as reliable. You can change your system locale under "region and language" in the control panel.
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I AM ERROR posted:I haven't ever encountered this specific problem before, but is your computer set to Japanese locale? That can solve lot of problems when running visual novels, and really the only drawback is that your computer sometimes displays the yen symbol instead of the backslash. You can also use AppLocale, but I've found that it isn't as reliable. Yup, Mine was already set to Japan before I installed it but the problem still remains. To give more exact details, when I load up the game, it states that the patch has suffered an application crash and needs to close down. I can reach the main menu and the start/load options are set in english but when I try to start the game, it kinda stalls in the opening screen. Not sure what else I can do, I can give the details to the appcrash if that's any help to anybody computer-savvy. Kind of a bummer.I was really looking forward to playing this.
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Holy Beergut posted:Yup, Mine was already set to Japan before I installed it but the problem still remains. Oh, I see. I thought the program would crash when you tried running it. I've had similar problems in the past with other visual novels, this sounds like some kind of issue with the font. Some quick searching reveals that this is the font used in the English patch. Extract it to your C:\Windows\Fonts folder and see if that fixes the problem.
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I AM ERROR posted:Oh, I see. I thought the program would crash when you tried running it. Holy poo poo, it worked!...I think. It still states that the patch crashes and I can't start from the beginning. But I went to the load menu and somehow, I can start from the event straight after the beginning, "the robot's bouquet" and it seems to work fine. I'll play through and see if I encounter any other problems. Thanks for all the help, guys. Really appreciate it. 
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| # ? Oct 29, 2010 12:02 |
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CLANNAD finally knocked off Ever17 from the top spot in vndb's Bayesian ratings  On that subject, I still have no idea how vndb's Popularity ranking works. Utawarerumono is ahead of Umineko (51.80 to 47.97), but lags behind Umineko in Bayesian rating (8.05 to 9.02) and overall rating (8.09 to 9.09). A 41 vote difference can't make that big of a difference. Sharin no Kuni is ahead of CLANNAD despite trailing in total votes, Bayesian rating, and overall rating. Does it attempt to weight certain levels differently?
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I suspect that popularity is a matter of number of page visits, rather than actual ratings given.
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Nate RFB posted:CLANNAD finally knocked off Ever17 from the top spot in vndb's Bayesian ratings It's gone back and forth a few times over the last few weeks. I guess it'll stabilize eventually; I'm sure there can't be that many new people playing Ever17 any more. Nate RFB posted:On that subject, I still have no idea how vndb's Popularity ranking works. It's weird; it's calculated in a completely different way. According to the admins, each vote on a VN increases its popularity score by the square root of the number of VNs that user has rated worse than it. So, a user who has voted on five games will contribute zero popularity to their least favorite VN and two popularity to their favorite. The displayed scores are then rescaled so the most popular VN has a score of 100. The popularity score is really just a curiosity; the Bayesian rating is a better indicator of pretty much anything you'd want to know.
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| # ? Oct 29, 2010 17:55 |
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Well, finished both narcissu and planetarian, both were excellent, albeit, incredibly depressing.  Kinda want to try Saya No Uta, is there anyway I could get the english patch for it? or am I better off waiting for the jastusa release?
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| # ? Oct 30, 2010 09:39 |
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Holy Beergut posted:Well, finished both narcissu and planetarian, both were excellent, albeit, incredibly depressing. Should be easy enough to track down. There hasn't been any news of a JAST release anyway. New partial patch for F/HA is out. Don't expect this to be finished any time in the near future though.
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| # ? Nov 2, 2010 04:32 |
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Given the relative non-linear nature of F/HA, I can't help but think that anything short of a full patch is somewhat useless.
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Ixrec on Nov 5th posted:As for the patch release date:  I am brimming with anticipation. I've been waiting three and a half years for someone to come along and actually TL Muv Luv Alt and seeing it finally start to come out is just really great. EDIT G-Senjou no Maou is also very close to completion. jonjonaug fucked around with this message at Nov 7, 2010 around 08:56 |
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I've been eyeing G-Senjou no Maou for a while, can't wait for them to finish it. That, Little Busters! and Alternative are currently my most anticipated translations, it's great to see them all well on their way to being completed.
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| # ? Nov 7, 2010 10:31 |
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HELL YEAH! Patch is up, go get it. Play Muv Luv first if you haven't already though. 
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That makes me smile.
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jonjonaug posted:HELL YEAH! Those, uh, sure are some awkward outfits.
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Apparently there is a crash in episode 6 on December 5th. Luckily, the quick folks at Amaterasu have already deployed a patch. Just overwrite the identically named file in the plugins folder where you installed the game with the file in this rar. Fangz posted:Those, uh, sure are some awkward outfits. They sure are! They do switch to less fanservice-ish ones later in the game (although I'm pretty sure that happens after the content from this patch reaches its end). Also, I'm pretty amused by having Asu e no Houkou play every time you start the game. This is going to be one of those OPs I watch every time (the entire reason I wanted to play this game in the first place was because I heard the OP theme and thought it sounded really freaking awesome). jonjonaug fucked around with this message at Nov 8, 2010 around 07:17 |
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Is anybody else going to wait until the translation is fully completed? I've never really liked the idea partial patches, and I'd rather read it all at once. I just don't want to start getting into the story only to suddenly hit Japanese text. Well, in any case, here's to giant robots: 
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Yeah, I hate partial patches most of the time. Nothing worse than when you really get into something and have it pulled out from under you midway. And this isn't even supposed to be anywhere close to the good stuff? Yeah I'll wait. I have a pretty large backlog of games (not just VNs) to occupy the time anyway. However, I will say that I'll be reading Umineko EP7 via partial patches (first one's out already) because my god I've been dying for more Umineko of any kind. E: I would also like to take this time to say that, about 9 hours into Remember11, I have decided that Kokoro may be one of the dumbest and worst VN protagonists I have ever seen. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at Nov 8, 2010 around 11:41 |
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I just finished the arc, and if it's as insignificant compared to the rest of Alternative as everybody is saying, I'm very much looking forward to it. Those were some of the toughest choices I've ever made in a VN, and the first few lines I read of the following part have me even more anxious to read the rest. That was really good. Now that translation is moving along steadily, when can we expect another patch?
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Yeah, as mentioned before, this patch pales greatly in comparison to the later ones. They haven't gotten to any of the real good parts yet. If I remember correctly, Ixrec said that the size of the 2nd patch is close to twice the amount of this one, so the wait for the next patch might be a while. Somewhere between 3-4 months I'm guessing if he keeps at the pace he's been at. Nate RFB posted:Kokoro may be one of the dumbest and worst VN protagonists I have ever seen. She is easily one of, if not the most useless protagonists in any VN I've gone through.
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Suoinoleht posted:Now that translation is moving along steadily, when can we expect another patch? Ixrec's planning on going at about three fourths of his normal rate, at least for a little while (although he planned to do this with the first patch too and ended up doing 20 KB a day anyway). The second patch is also going to be about 1.5 times longer than this patch. It took about seven weeks to get the first patch fully TLed plus about a week extra for TL check and the rest of the team to figure out a couple of things, so probably somewhere in the range of two and a half to four months.
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