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Red7 posted:You would have thought they would have smashed out a special considering whats going on. Ian Hislop must be bouncing off the walls somewhere. The new issue Private Eye can't come soon enough.
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Jul 16, 2011 18:27
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J33uk posted:If you want to realize that the entire education system in the UK is utterly hosed, feel free to check out "Classroom Secrets" that aired on BBC on Thursday. Apparently if you're a 9 year old in school you can now get taken out of class for a little private breakfast if you say you're hungry. What's the show like - is there much analysis as to why what's happening in the schools is happening? From your mention of breakfasts, I'm guessing that it has a bit of a nanny state / 'elf and safety gone mad slant, is that right? My partner and I saw the trailer for it but decided against watching the show because she's a primary school teacher and there's probably a million ways it could end up making her blood boil.
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Jul 16, 2011 19:00
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Firing Cirrus posted:What's the show like - is there much analysis as to why what's happening in the schools is happening? From your mention of breakfasts, I'm guessing that it has a bit of a nanny state / 'elf and safety gone mad slant, is that right? My partner and I saw the trailer for it but decided against watching the show because she's a primary school teacher and there's probably a million ways it could end up making her blood boil.
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Jul 16, 2011 19:20
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Jawidar posted:I thought it was actually pretty sympathetic towards teachers and well worth watching. It pointed out the challenges of behaviour management and made incredibly clear the need for greater cooperation from home (even if it just means sending a child to school well rested and well fed). It was pretty clear that the child in J33uk's post had a bunch of other problems going on too. Cheers, we'll have a watch then as that's allayed most concerns.
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Jul 16, 2011 19:36
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Firing Cirrus posted:What's the show like - is there much analysis as to why what's happening in the schools is happening? From your mention of breakfasts, I'm guessing that it has a bit of a nanny state / 'elf and safety gone mad slant, is that right? My partner and I saw the trailer for it but decided against watching the show because she's a primary school teacher and there's probably a million ways it could end up making her blood boil. It's actually pretty reasonable and fair, the teachers come out in a good light with the exception of one incident involving the apparently the great idea of putting a disruptive student next to successful one. Guess how well that worked. I suppose the biggest shock was seeing how much had changed since my days in school only 15 years ago.
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Jul 16, 2011 20:23
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Penn & Teller's Fool Us was pretty good this week, a good mix of excellent illusions, even those that didn't fool were very enjoyable viewing. No clue how the trick with the Frenchmen's box worked and I normally have at least a rudimentary idea on how most tricks could be done.
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Jul 16, 2011 23:16
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I've started watching Luther, and while the acting is generally very good, there are more plotholes than Edward J. Olmos' face.
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Jul 17, 2011 03:45
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I just want to know where he got the key for that bike lock in episode 2 (series 1), I'm pretty sure it came out of nowhere. The other general plothole-y thing is that Luther often jsut suddenly decides he knows that so-and-so is the killer without any real evidence or reason to to lead him to that person.
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Jul 17, 2011 07:15
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Jul 17, 2011 10:29
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Red7 posted:You would have thought they would have smashed out a special considering whats going on. Ian Hislop must be bouncing off the walls somewhere. Z-Magic posted:The new issue Private Eye can't come soon enough. The last Private Eye appeared on my doormat a day after this all broke and therefore had absolutely nothing about it. I cannot wait for Wednesday.
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Jul 17, 2011 11:28
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Wafflecop posted:The other general plothole-y thing is that Luther often jsut suddenly decides he knows that so-and-so is the killer without any real evidence or reason to to lead him to that person. Just like a real copper then.
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Jul 17, 2011 12:04
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Trin Tragula posted:The last Private Eye appeared on my doormat a day after this all broke and therefore had absolutely nothing about it. Indeed, it remarked on the immutable law of the media "what Rupert wants, Rupert gets". Next Eye will just be one giant Eye Told You So. It will be embarrassingly smug.
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Jul 17, 2011 12:19
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:I've started watching Luther, and while the acting is generally very good, there are more plotholes than Edward J. Olmos' face. I watched both series recently and that was my opinion of it. The atmosphere, some fine performances, and a psychotic redhead femme fatale all made it worth watching. I'm not the kind of person who normally picks up on plot holes until long after the event but I noticed them constantly while watching the show. That, combined with conveniences like Alice's "...and with a single bound she was free!" escape from a secure facility spoiled it a bit for me. But only a little bit.
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Jul 17, 2011 15:20
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Yeah, overall it is great, but I think it's the gritty police drama realism not gelling very well with the almost comic book aspects that is so jarring. Or I'm being overly generous to some very lazy script editing.
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Jul 17, 2011 20:25
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Yeah, overall it is great, but I think it's the gritty police drama realism not gelling very well with the almost comic book aspects that is so jarring. Overall i'd say it was good, but that's only compared to the rest of the stuff that's shovelled out. Like you said, it's got some good performances, and a few interesting cases for criminals, but overall it's a senseless mess. I mean, the concept of a psychological foil for Luther is all well and good, but she's a sociopathic brutal murderer who stalked Luther and threatened to kill his (ex)wife and he breaks her out of the mental prison she ends up in for murdering that other (dirty)copper. It didn't help that The Shadow Line came out in between series 1 and 2 and raised the bar for urban police crime drama. On another note, this is the first time i've watched an episode of Miranda. How the gently caress did she win an award for this shite. Was it the hamfisted breaking the 4th wall she always does? 
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Jul 17, 2011 23:49
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J33uk posted:It's actually pretty reasonable and fair, the teachers come out in a good light with the exception of one incident involving the apparently the great idea of putting a disruptive student next to successful one. Guess how well that worked. I suppose the biggest shock was seeing how much had changed since my days in school only 15 years ago. It was like that at my primary 17 years ago. Year after year they'd sit me next to some disruptive oval office. FractionMan posted:Penn & Teller's Fool Us was pretty good this week, a good mix of excellent illusions, even those that didn't fool were very enjoyable viewing. No clue how the trick with the Frenchmen's box worked and I normally have at least a rudimentary idea on how most tricks could be done. There's a few things to look out for in a magic trick. There's a reason everything is on the stage. Some are just for misdirection, the rest are important components, and will often be shown to be mere props. They played around the the lampost for a bit, so you accept it has a reason for being there. I had two ideas: 1. She wrapped her legs around the lamp post like a stripper/gymnast, and then moved her torso around. 2. She had a mini-harness on, and hooked herself to the lamppost as and when she needed to. They showed that pressing the sides of the box would make it stretch like a trampoline, which means there was probably a platform inside to stand on, placed on a thick metal frame. It can't really be anything else. Those other guys, they must've lied about switching the deck. I thought they were using body language to convey the correct answer, but Penn caught them switching, even though they denied it. Ross had to pull the cards out one at a time from the top, rather than randomly. Swiping half the cards towards the end is a contrived measure to convince the audience that there can't be a set order, because he took an untold amount of cards away, although if that were the case, they would've had Ross shuffle the deck after every turn, or pull cards out randomly.
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Jul 18, 2011 11:07
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Padje posted:Those other guys, they must've lied about switching the deck. I think they did lie, but only about not making the obvious fake switch to throw P&T off the scent.
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Jul 18, 2011 19:22
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Semprini posted:I'm not so sure. Penn said afterwards that if they hadn't switched the deck he had a pretty good idea how they did it, but Woss told him it was too late. I think they still have that "adjudicator magician" watching for disagreements, who I'm sure would have stepped in if it was a complete lie.
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Jul 18, 2011 20:58
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I was surprised to see a Mock the Week special pop up on iPlayer and, though it's usually crap, I was quite excited to see what they'd done with the News of the World palaver. "Hello and welcome to a special edition of Mock the Week where we show highlights from throughout the season" 
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Jul 18, 2011 21:08
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Jul 18, 2011 22:38
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Semprini posted:I'm not so sure. Penn said afterwards that if they hadn't switched the deck he had a pretty good idea how they did it, but Woss told him it was too late. Having watched it again on ITV Player it does look like the deck could have been switched but I'd guess that was misdirection for P&T to pick up on rather than the actual basis of the trick (instead probably a combination of words and body language - watch how the smaller guy is looking at the cards when Ross turns them over). Throwing away most of the deck just cuts down on the number of signs to give and therefore the opportunity for them to be seen.
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Jul 19, 2011 04:01
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I think that they added some extra cards, not switched the deck. I suspect the reason they revealed the top cards one at a time was because after a general shuffle many of the cards will still be in the same order, so after they reveal card x, then card y and then card z have a good chance of following, so the one with Ross just has to give a signal for card x, and if he makes no other signalling moves then the other guy knows that y and z follow. That's my theory!
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Jul 19, 2011 12:59
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Anybody want to guess how/if the current Murdoch and News International kafuffle will affect the beeb? I'm hoping that we will finally get bbc archives but, we'll see. And they'll probably only go back to 2002 anyway since they threw away everything to make room for the Top Gear studio. Also: http://www.chortle.co.uk/features/2011/07/19/13653/stewart_lee%3A_what_i_really_think_about_michael_mcintyre
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justcola posted:Also: http://www.chortle.co.uk/features/2011/07/19/13653/stewart_lee%3A_what_i_really_think_about_michael_mcintyre The original article is hilarious. Also it includes this picture. 
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Jul 19, 2011 17:26
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Run Dodo Run posted:The original article is hilarious. Why do you look like a 50 year old man Stewart? Why do you like like that? Stop it.
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Jul 19, 2011 17:29
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Kin posted:It didn't help that The Shadow Line came out in between series 1 and 2 and raised the bar for urban police crime drama. I've been watching a few Cracker episodes recently on ITV2 and I'm struggling to think of a modern police drama that compares to it in quality. The depth of writing and storytelling on Cracker elevates it above every crime drama I've on watched on British television since the '90s.
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Jul 19, 2011 17:56
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The Shadow Line was fantastic except for that one bit where the guy on the bike goes down a hill out of view while a car comes the other way, then there's a bang and the car comically comes back into view but the bike doesn't. It wouldn't have been out of place to have that character twirl a moustache at various points but that was the worst.
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Jul 19, 2011 18:17
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Quanta posted:I've been watching a few Cracker episodes recently on ITV2 and I'm struggling to think of a modern police drama that compares to it in quality. The depth of writing and storytelling on Cracker elevates it above every crime drama I've on watched on British television since the '90s. This is correct. It's aged suprisingly well as well. You can get the box set pretty cheap these days and it's a good investment.
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Jul 19, 2011 23:04
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Did anyone watch The Hour? oh look, it's turned in to yet another British crime drama.
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Jul 20, 2011 00:07
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Pablo Bluth posted:Did anyone watch The Hour? oh look, it's turned in to yet another British crime drama. Watching it now. Seeing Jimmy McNulty as a suave, debonair actor with a posh accent is blowing my mind.
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Jul 20, 2011 02:38
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Caught some parents being shown 2girls1cup on some sex show and one of the mothers cried and had to leave the room because it was "all so degrading" while her husband said "oh its terrible...yeah" with a look on his face to say "i've seen much worse, this doenst even compare  "It was all a bit bizarre.
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justcola posted:Anybody want to guess how/if the current Murdoch and News International kafuffle will affect the beeb? I'm hoping that we will finally get bbc archives but, we'll see. And they'll probably only go back to 2002 anyway since they threw away everything to make room for the Top Gear studio. Good article, and my favourite bit was: quote:These days I mainly meet other comics at the 60 or so unpaid charity benefit shows I do every year Absolutely glorious.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Did anyone watch The Hour? oh look, it's turned in to yet another British crime drama. Bugger I forgot.
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LE0N posted:Caught some parents being shown 2girls1cup on some sex show and one of the mothers cried and had to leave the room because it was "all so degrading" while her husband said "oh its terrible...yeah" with a look on his face to say "i've seen much worse, this doenst even compare This isn't the first time they've done this. Another group of parents left thinking their 14 year old just can't wait to shitfist a random stranger.
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Akuma posted:The Shadow Line was fantastic except for that one bit where the guy on the bike goes down a hill out of view while a car comes the other way, then there's a bang and the car comically comes back into view but the bike doesn't. Considering the lovely little car that Gatehouse was driving, and the nonchalant metal bat, I think that was meant to sort of silly looking? Shadow Line was far more interested in imagery and fiction and metaphor then anything realistic. E. I thought not being preoccupied with realism was a good thing by the way, not sure if that came across. Shadow Line was loving perfect. E2. I've not seen Cracker! The box set is now in an amazon basket. ScipioAfro fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jul 20, 2011 |
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Jul 20, 2011 16:37
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Pablo Bluth posted:Did anyone watch The Hour? oh look, it's turned in to yet another British crime drama. I quite enjoyed it. Although I think I missed some key points because I kept having to go outside to give in to my nicotine cravings, I can't think think why.
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Jul 20, 2011 16:41
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I lost interest in The Shadow Line when the villain took several bullets to the chest, survived, and walked out of hospital a few days later (after foiling an expert assassin). Its best episodes are before Glickman and the psychopathic twink become players in the story, and then it mutates into a bit of a mess. Those episodes were genuinely absorbing as noir drama before the tone turned silly.
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Quanta posted:I lost interest in The Shadow Line when the villain took several bullets to the chest, survived, and walked out of hospital a few days later (after foiling an expert assassin). Its best episodes are before Glickman and the psychopathic twink become players in the story, and then it mutates into a bit of a mess. This is exactly my opinion as well. I thought it was really, really good until the scene where Glickman accidentally shoots the kid. (I guess we should still spoiler?) Everything after that felt like a completely different show. I didn't really like the last two episodes.
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