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DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


The worst thing is that the Larry King goes out to over 200 countries. Piers Morgan in over 200 loving countries.

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DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


The new Film 20xx was largely crap.

I actually like Claudia Winkleman but the show reeked of the BBC not having faith in their choice of presenter. I would've preferred it if it was just the two of them reviewing the films, Ebert style.

Instead the show is too busy. And though it doesn't bother me that the one woman didn't like Pixar films, the way she announced it was like it was meant to be a mind blowing revelation. Smug as gently caress.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


I'm just worried they make it too broad. But yeah the idea is a pretty good one, and it's surprising that it's not really been done yet.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Graviton v2 posted:

The very best stand up comedians produce 3 or 4 full hour long sets in their whole career.

Louis CK, arguably one of the best stand up comedians working, produces a new hour of material each year. He doesn't reuse anything at all. Once he's performed it he's done.

I'd love to see Peter Kay try that.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


LE0N posted:

Did Keith chegwin host some jungle themed quiz show naked years ago or am I having some sort of stroke? Did it actually happen?

It was, appropriately enough, 'Naked Jungle'. It was also a one-off. I don't think Channel 5 ever got lower than that did they?

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


More Netflix chat -

It's weird that you have to sign up to see a full selection since the US site allows you to browse their catalogue even if your not a member. And on that note, everyone should really get themselves unblock-us and have access to the US site. Way more extensive (All the seasons of The Twilight Zone in HD? Yes please). Oddly they have more British TV to select from than we do (Want every episode of Midsommer Murders? Of course you do).

There are some things we have that they don't. For example they don't have Californication or Dexter.

As for the quality. I thought both sites were excellent. I watched the pilot episode of Lost in HD and it looked great. Even their SD stuff looks fine. Much much better than Lovefilm, who equate SD to a pixelated mess and who offer no HD content where available.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:

On the Daria boxset I have nearly all the music has been replaced with stock stuff, which to be honest does make it not feel the same as when I watched it when it first aired.

The excellent (And underseen) 'Friday Night Lights' has most of the music replaced for the DVD, except it's entirely inconsistent. To be fair if you had never seen the broadcast versions of the episodes then it would probably go unnoticed. It does however spoil a moment in the Season 1 finale where 'Your Hand In Mine' by Explosions in the Sky is changed for something similar sounding. Since the score of the show is based on their music I can't decide if that makes it better or worse.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


While sadly the Merton/Saville story isn't true, the allegations against Saville allegedly had some truth to them. Much more on it here.

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comme...sex_allegations

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


thehustler posted:

Haha I forgot about that holy poo poo

There's a great clip where Michael Johnson has decided to cut Ortis out of the loop and conduct his own interviews.

On that note they should just have Michael Johnson presenting athletics coverage from now anyway.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


stickyfngrdboy posted:

It wasn't cancelled, but the man who created and produced it was fired after suggesting the show only worked because it lacked 'ethnic minority' characters. How he could possibly believe that I don't know.

A black person in an English village? The very idea!

To be fair, the show seems to harken back to the idea of an idyllic English village. I would've said before that it was a deliberate choice (And if they were trying to harken back to the Agatha Christie-esque mysteries of yore then it certainly worked), but after those comments it just sounds like the creator probably didn't like black people.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Mickolution posted:

I never really got his stand-up, either. I'd watched a few bits and pieces but had to turn them off. I've recently gotten into Louie, though. I'd watched most of the first series around a year ago and just stopped for some reason until last week. I'm almost finished series 2 and love it.

Last night, I watched his latest stand-up to see if getting the series would help me get his stand-up and I absolutely loved it. Not sure if it's different to the stuff I'd seen before or if it's a Seinfeld type thing where it took me a while to get his humour.

Louie is completely unique in that it's someone's unfiltered thoughts coming through in half hour bursts each week. Sometimes it's funny, other times it plays it completely straight but it's purely Louis CK. It's brilliant television who's only real constraint is limited to when the creative force runs out of ideas. The 3-part episode this season was brilliant.

While I find some of the standup stuff hit-and-miss, the highs are really high.

Plus, there's something admirable about writing a show to go on tour with, doing a year and then never repeating it again because if people have paid to watch him they shouldn't have to see him do the same jokes they've seen on TV or on a DVD. Once that tour is over the show is done for and he sits back down and writes a new set. Given that some comedians make a living dredging up the same poo poo over and over there's something admirable about that.

To end the lovefest, he also says that he puts what he thinks are the strongest jokes he has at that point at the start of the show so he can force himself to write better.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


There was a pretty good discussion on 5-Live this morning, though I usually hate Nicky Campbell, he raised a good point in that a sexist institution, which the BBC undoubtedly was at the time, is not the same as what Saville was doing. Liz Kershaw had personally told him the story she revealed earlier (He also pointed out that it wasn't Saville - but he knows who it is) but then he's heard the same thing from people who worked in the Houses of Parliment too. There was a certain time when that behavior was seen as 'ok' and it shouldn't be dragged up in relation to the Saville case.

gently caress Janet Street-Porter and Paul Gambaccini though. If I heard that Dave in accounts had been loving young girls - repeatedly. I tell someone. Anyone in their right mind would. But at a certain point they decided it wasn't worth the dent in their careers and now come out of the woodwork so somehow make things morally right. It's nothing but self serving so that they can say "Yeah, I did something about this."

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


justcola posted:

My mum believes that paedophiles didn't exist before the eighties, but she also believes that homosexuality is a blood disease created by mankind so I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into the good old days. Between Saville, Freddy Starr and John Peel I wonder why such a relatively high percentage of celebrities from the seventies had sex with children though.

One of the things that never really got mentioned after the Roman Polanski scandal was that Jack Nicholson and Warren Beatty were regularly loving under-age girls. They were arguably the biggest movie stars at that time, and the view was that Polanski was unlucky enough to get caught.

I guess it's a sign of decadence, mixed with some adolescent fantasy of loving the youngest, hottest, girls. It should be noted that of course this isn't paedophilia, but there was certainly the trend then (As I'm sure there is now, just less so) that once a girl hit her teens she was good to go.

Of course the waters there get murky because you have the groupie factor. Some, not all, but some knew just what they were going there for and fully enjoyed the experience. Others, like the girl Polanski raped clearly did not (Polanski insisted that the girl was there to gently caress and that she knew what she was doing - her statement seemed to indicate otherwise).

The story Peel told leans more toward the Hollywood excess side of things than the Saville/Starr incidents. I've no doubt there were a subset of teen girls that simply wanted to gently caress, and wanted to gently caress someone famous. Misguided or not, it's a fact. Peel/Nicholson et al clearly should've known better but it happened and I'm sure a lot of those girls don't feel like they were preyed on. The difference, as far as I can tell with Saville/Starr was that they were coerced into doing what they did, and they were less than willing participants.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Giedroyc posted:

Mike Smith wades into the sexual assault debate with a wince inducing "all a bit of harmless fun" apologism designed to ruin any happy memories you have of him (but might raise your chances of bedding Sarah Greene)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...king-about.html

"Distressing allegations by Radio 1 DJ Liz Kershaw that her breasts were regularly groped live on air by a colleague were today dismissed by a fellow broadcaster as a 'practical joke', 'mucking around' and schoolboy 'joshing'.

Breakfast presenter in the 1980s, Mike Smith, has accused Ms Kershaw of smearing 'an awful lot of innocent, hard-working people' at the BBC, which he called a 'heinous crime'."

When I listened to the whole interview he raised one or two good points - he just also totally undoes himself with this weird defence of the BBC. What's the betting he's looking for a job?

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


There was a great article in the Guardian about Kevin McCloud and how we don't really know a lot about him. He's great at keeping things pretty close to the chest, but can't help but occasionally let little things slip through.

The episode with that guy who built in the water tower was good for McCloud's comment that he would never live there because it was in London. I imagine he'd be a man whose idea of a dream home would be the Eames house.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Paperhouse posted:

With the David Blaine stuff then I'd probably agree with you, but I think he's right about Derren Brown. When he did the lottery stunt it was pretty clear that it was some kind of camera/TV trickery, not least because of the thousands of people going on about it at the time. The fact that he then dressed it all up with a load of nonsense and bullshit made him seem fake and insincere, perhaps for the first time, and it could be argued that once he did that it was difficult to go back. I don't think you had to seek out the answers for this because his explanation was so obviously untrue.

for what it's worth, I like to believe in as much of it as I can because he's done enough amazing stuff live, and on tons of celebrities, to convince me that he doesn't need actors to commit acts of wizardry

There was a pretty good blog post from a guy who was in the audience that night talking about part of the episode that wasn't shown to anyone but the studio audience. The gist is Brown filmed a stunt before hand where he revealed the numbers (He was in an open top bus in London) and that's how he revealed the numbers to the audience. Except that wasn't what actually went out and it seems that for whatever reason C4 put the halt on it. Probably because their legal team said "You can't do this". Don't forget that after that Brown was being called by Politicians to explain himself and had a lot of heat on him.

The filming around London thing was actually true. There were pictures of him filming but as far as I know it wasn't shown. Could just be a dude making things up but it didn't read that way.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


hermand posted:

Uh, you're not really buying this? Unless someone is accusing him of actually fixing the lottery that week....

No but I think there was a more impressive trick that what people got (At least the reveal was more impressive, I dare say the nuts and bolts of the trick were just the same) but, for whatever reason, C4 decided against it.

Brown has talked about the legal storm he came under for both that show and the Russian Roulette one so it's not hard to presume that C4's lawyers stepped in and said "Nope, can't do this."

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


I love Jamie Oliver as a Chef. His books are great, his shows are great, and good on him for trying to actually do something about Children's health. As a person my affection is less so, but the fact his school campaign is met with derision rather than support says it all really.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Plus he got very good notices when he was on stage. And he's the lead in 'Horns', based on the fantastic book. It's not an easy role so I hope he nails it (And the american accent).

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


"Simon, sidestep to your left" became a school playground laughathon after that episode of Nightmare was on. I'm really still not sure what the gently caress happened, other than one guy doesn't know his left or right properly.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


I can't fault Tarantino for his comments at all. He's completely right, the press junket is just a commercial for his film and not the time or place to go into the 'movies/real life violence' debate. Tarantino does the press because it gets the film out there and the press do it because it generates sight traffic/views.

Tarantino has, even recently, done a lengthy piece with a reporter about some of the plot points in 'Django' and why the reviewer thought some things didn't make sense. He's also talked at length at lectures about violence and how it's portrayed on screen. It's not even a bad question, it's just a poorly asked one used to generate a quick soundbite they can play.

Plus, it's a question that Tarantino gets asked every time he has something out, even with the comparatively non-violent 'Jackie Brown'.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Paperhouse posted:

If this is true, would it have been that difficult for him to give a proper response to what was a pretty reasonable question? If he has written so much about it, I don't see why he couldn't just suggest a few of the overarching themes in his writing instead of being a knobhead about it

Because the question was asked in the worst, most passive aggressive way possible. Tarantino is a cinephile, so why not ask him way people have always blamed violent movies on real life events. He could probably cite hundreds of examples and he answers the question without it getting confrontational. Murphy just uses these shock words like 'twisted' and seems to be passing comment on the film. Given that he mentions the 'portrayal of surprise sex' in the film I'd be surprised if he'd actually seen it (surprise sex is implied to have happened at some point, but it doesn't actually happen in film). It starts to feel like Murphy is reaching. Add it to the fact that Tarantino has been asked the same questions since Reservoir Dogs and was probably asked the same question a hundred times that day and it's not much of a surprise.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Weekly Wipe was ok. The film review bit was terrible and really offered nothing apart from some people awkward laughing about their attitudes to violence and slavery. If Brooker had used the same critical eye he did on the school shooting bit then it could've been interesting.

Also, get rid of Philomena Chunk. It just doesn't work because you already have Barry Shitpeas doing exactly the same act. The addition of her just feels a little bit like padding, and the joke only really works in short bursts. It's probably the first 'wipe' thing I've been disappointed with.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


sex pervert posted:

Yeah, I caught a bit of that last week. The United States of Television. It was about as insightful as those Channel 4 "100 greatest" shows. It might be a useful programme for an Amish person who is joining mainstream society; serving as a list of shows to catch up on. Aside from that I can't think of anyone who'd glean anything from this show.

That's a shame because something like Alan Sepinwall's recent 'The Revolution Was Televised' book would've been a pretty great jumping off point, even if it's focused on a more modern era (I think the oldest show is NYPD Blue). In fact I'd say anyone who wanted to know about modern American TV should read it.

I've not seen the Yentob show but it's sounding suspiciously like a show that's on the US Netflix at the moment, 3 episodes and all are split by a certain 'type'. I'd argue that's where the interviews came from.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Akuma posted:

I'll save you the trouble; it's been moronic for years. It is a show for stupid people who didn't get the joke so they changed the joke to be the absolute lowest common denominator so now they get the joke and it's painfully poo poo.

It's continued existence puzzles and angers me.

The strangest thing is that despite the first season basically being a retread of the British one, the US remake has gone on to become one of the best shows on television.

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DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


The success of Chris Moyles was lost on me and the mere presence of Nick Grimshaw is just a mystery altogether. When I get a lift in the morning it's always on (Thankfully it's a scant 15 minutes). He sounds like the guy they bring in to replace the real host when they're off ill.

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