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El Diabolico
Dec 19, 2006
LUCHA ES VIDA!

TL;DR.

A long running manga series written by Hirohiko Araki.

While (imho) originally coming off as a bit of a fist of the north clone, It quickly lived up to its namesake and ended up becoming the cult classic we know today. With its fairly western inspired art style, it has become this messy delicious goop of crazy violence, weird humor, and an impeccable fashion sense. While it is a long (and even ongoing!) series, It's split into smaller, lightly continuous, parts which can easily be consumed stand alone, if you so please, making it nice and easy to get into. The gist of each part revolves around a certain Jojo (a descendant of the joestar family) going on a bizarre adventure and along the way meeting or facing off against a bunch of equally strange characters all hilariously named after western musical references. Its weird as gently caress but you can forgive all its sins because . In being a cult classic, It's quite often quietly referenced in anything vaguely otaku related. Sometimes to the point where it's "The gift that keeps on giving".

Part 1: "Phantom Blood"
Gist: Vampires and Ripples and poo poo.

Jojo: Jonathan Joestar
Bad guy: Dio

Part 2: "Battle Tendency"
Gist: Nazis, New Wave, and Sweaty Naked Super Men.

Jojo: Joseph Joestar
Bad guy: Cars, Wham, AcDc, Santana

Part 3: "Stardust Crusaders"
Gist: Psychic shenanigans and Dio's Revenge

Jojo: Jotarou Kujo
Bad guy: Dio

Part 4: "Diamond is Unbreakable"
Gist: The Hardy boys.

Jojo: Jousuke Higashigata
Bad guy:Yoshikage Kira


Part 5: "Golden Wind"
Gist: Of Boy-bands and Gangsters

Jojo: Giorno Giovanna
Bad guy: Diavolo/Doppio

Part 6: "Stone Ocean"
Gist: Girls in prison and Dio's ultimate legacy

Jojo: Jolyne Kujo
Bad guy: Enrico Pucci

Part 7: "Steel Ball run"
Gist: Reboots and Broken backs. (both literally and figuratively)

Jojo: Johnny Joestar Zepelli: Gyro Zepelli
Bad guy: President Funny Valentine


"Steel Ball Run" is presently being published monthly in Shueisha's "Ultra Jump".

Animation:
Jojo's Bizzare Adventure OVA
- a recap of Stardust Crusaders.

Jojo's Bizzare Adventure: Phantom Blood
- A movie version retelling the events of Part 1

Games:
Famicon Jump I & II
- Cameos

Jojo's Bizzare Adventure
- Snes RPG

Jojo's Bizzare Adventure & Jojo's Bizzare Adventure: Legacy of the Future
- Crazy and innovative(at the time) Capcom Fighting game for the PS1, DC, and Arcade. Featuring Characters from Part 3 (And Joseph Joestar!)

Jojo's Bizzare Adventure: Golden Experience
- PS2 3D action game

Jojo's Bizzare Adventure: Phantom Blood
- PS2 3D action game to coincide with the movie. Features fancy poses.

Jump Super Stars & Jump Ultimate Stars
- Horribly overpowered playable characters (Dio & Jojo from Part 3) as well as a few other characters as support characters


Family Tree: (Spoilers?)


Other things of interest:
A video and a page of 'references' that have been used through out the comic
Samples of all the music (NicoVideo) that's referenced through out Jojo.

And finally this.

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motherfish
Nov 11, 2005



That gist of part 4 is a little too perfect (best part just so everyone knows btw)

As it is now Stardust Crusaders is the only in the series that you can purchase in English, published by VIZ. This MF folder is a goodiebag of all the rest of titles one'll be needing http://www.mediafire.com/ArakiCollection

Kweh
Jul 20, 2006

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I have got to agree that despite the utterly horrible translation/scan quality for part 4 it is still the most enjoyable story-arc.

Why does every main villain after part 3 have some sort of time-altering gimmick?

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



Someone post the lime-green picture of all the Jojo protagonists immediately because this thread has dangerously low levels of fabulousness.

Flashbang!
May 16, 2009




edit: ah, that's better.

Flashbang! fucked around with this message at Sep 12, 2010 around 20:56

IDOLA
Sep 17, 2005

:-)


Part 2 is still my favourite part and I would kill multiple people for a high-budget animated adaptation. Shame it'll never happen.

gucci mangosteen
Feb 26, 2007


I was reading part 5 a few years back but it seems the group translating it dropped off the face of the earth mid-way through and I never got to finish it. Has anyone else taken up the reins on that?

Flashbang!
May 16, 2009


It's completely done. And not only is it done, it's getting a total redo with better translation and pages.

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

I ended up liking Stone Ocean a lot more than I thought I would. The fights were really, really long though.

I liked the shorter fights in Steel Ball Run. Too bad that comes out really slowly.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004

Do you like steak dinners and sex with handsome men?


Stardust Crusaders is the best series because all the story components are just right
Jotaro Vs D'Arby the Gambler is too goddamn good for words.

Hell they're all pretty drat good, but Steel Ball Run has so many goddamn moments I'm still trying to figure out if it's inspired or crass.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

I've never finished part 4 (it really felt like it started drag on and on after a certain point) but I couldn't pick a favorite between part 2 and 3. They're both just goddamn amazing.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



Stardust Crusaders is indeed the best part but I'll always hold a special place in my heart for Part 2 and the amazing power of ACDC.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Steel Ball Run is the worst, if only because it's a product of an incredibly boring and lazy LETS RESET THE UNIVERSE AND MAKE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THIS POINT UTTERLY POINTLESS AND DUMB

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004

Once you pop..

Zorak just do what The Dark Tower books taught me to do and make up your own ending if the one you get is awful.

Claven666
Jun 27, 2010


No fuckin' way. Third series will always be the best IMHO. The stands were extremely imaginitive, and without it we wouldn't have the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fighting game (I will wreck any one of you at any time with JoJO, Grandpa JoJo, Dio, Polnareff, or Kakyoin). I mean seriously..."I'm developing this psychic manifestation of my inner bad-rear end. Better lock myself in jail."

Totally awesome.

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


Part 3 was easily the best, I dont know how its possible to draw up any other conclusion. The lovely scans for 4 though really REALLY don't help it.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009


Part 3 is awesome for introducing the stand concepts but was too tame on the bizzare, especially with part 2 being so awesome; but part 4 really turned it up.

Kweh posted:

Why does every main villain after part 3 have some sort of time-altering gimmick?

Because of Dio. He was that awesome.

Zorak posted:

Steel Ball Run is the worst, if only because it's a product of an incredibly boring and lazy LETS RESET THE UNIVERSE AND MAKE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THIS POINT UTTERLY POINTLESS AND DUMB
It was getting too hectic keeping things straight, first the mask then stand from bloodlines then the arrow; just hit the reboot button and dont worry in keeping track if Batman did or not go to Planet X


Steel Ball Run is probably Araki's best looking work so far; especially since Stone Ocean was butt ugly

Exercu
Dec 7, 2009

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Honest Thief posted:



Because of Dio. He was that awesome.


This, and time is always a really broken power, which is necessary for a dangerous villain in a world of broken abilities. The interesting thing however is how the time abilities are vastly different. Time Freeze, Repeating Time, Time Skip, and Time Acceleration. If anyone had told me before I read it that the villains in part 3 onwards all had relatively unique time related powers, I'd have called shenanigans.

The most creative one in my opinion is the one in part 5 though.

Kweh
Jul 20, 2006

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Really? I felt the one in part 5 was just confusing. (gently caress the haters part 4 had the most unique stands)

Exercu
Dec 7, 2009

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If I remember correctly, (It's been a while) it's like this.

Time experienced by King Crimson

----------|-----|---------

Time experienced by enemy

----------| |---------

And at the end of the time walk people are in the exact same state, yet not the exact same position as before.

This means that King Crimson can essentially take a heavy blow from the enemy during the time walk, the timewalk ends, and he is unharmed, yet the opponent is completely disoriented, and doesn't know that he has already tried that blow. He tries it again and King Crimson knows it is coming.

TNG
Jan 4, 2001



I thought King Crimson looked the coolest, although Killer Queen is my favorite when all's said and done. Part 4, in general, is my favorite as it finally provides more of a focused and fertile context for all these wacky stand adventures. The whole Arrow gimmick allowed for a good explanation on why all these stand users are showing up, and the town allowed for a good set up on why they would all cross paths. It's much more episodic than the other parts (although one could make the argument that Jojo is more episodic than a lot of other manga), but its structure really is served well by its context and scenario.

It also has Rohan Kishibe, who, as far as self inserts go, is one of the best characters ever. ART MUST BE REAL!

Time Erasure isn't so hard to get, I just felt that the scans were really unclear in how they translated how the ability worked. It's sad when there needs to be a page or so of translation notes with examples provided just to get across to your audience what the drat thing is.

Exercu posted:

If I remember correctly, (It's been a while) it's like this.

Time experienced by King Crimson

----------|-----|---------

Time experienced by enemy

----------| |---------

And at the end of the time walk people are in the exact same state, yet not the exact same position as before.

This means that King Crimson can essentially take a heavy blow from the enemy during the time walk, the timewalk ends, and he is unharmed, yet the opponent is completely disoriented, and doesn't know that he has already tried that blow. He tries it again and King Crimson knows it is coming.

Almost. King Crimson can also see 10 seconds into the future, so he can see that heavy blow coming and then erase the "frames" of time that it happened in. He can also choose what "frames" he erases too, allowing bullets to pass through him and into other things for example.

Man, it's no wonder Gold Experience Requiem was the most broken stand ever....

TNG fucked around with this message at Sep 13, 2010 around 17:36

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Honest Thief posted:

It was getting too hectic keeping things straight, first the mask then stand from bloodlines then the arrow; just hit the reboot button and dont worry in keeping track if Batman did or not go to Planet X

Steel Ball Run is probably Araki's best looking work so far; especially since Stone Ocean was butt ugly

"three things" isn't that complex, though. It'd be complex if he kept MAKING it more complex. He would have been better off just ending the series with Part 5 and then going to work on something else, instead of basically invalidating everything he made before that time.

It's one thing if you invalidate a bunch of dumb Batman plot or whatever, it's another to invalidate everything good about the series because "I was making it too complex and didn't want to be bothered to reel it in".

Kweh
Jul 20, 2006

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I'm pretty sure as he was going along he would forget the way some stands were supposed to work, or forget people have powers at all. (Joseph vs D'Arby could have been over so fast if he just used haman to keep that water in the cup, for example.)

ANIME AKBAR
Jan 25, 2007

afu~

my favorite page in the manga so far:




Zorak can you make this my av:


or hell, anything from that page would own

Exercu
Dec 7, 2009

EAT WELL, SLEEP WELL, SHIT WELL! THERE'S YOUR ANSWER!!


TNG posted:



Almost. King Crimson can also see 10 seconds into the future, so he can see that heavy blow coming and then erase the "frames" of time that it happened in. He can also choose what "frames" he erases too, allowing bullets to pass through him and into other things for example.

Man, it's no wonder Gold Experience Requiem was the most broken stand ever....


Ah, right, I forgot about Epitaph (The little head in King Crimson's forehead)

And yeah, you pretty much need a stand as broken as GER to combat King Crimson's ability.

On the other hand, I can't imagine anything in any series ever beating GER. Even Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku would be unable to harm him.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009


Zorak posted:

"three things" isn't that complex, though. It'd be complex if he kept MAKING it more complex. He would have been better off just ending the series with Part 5 and then going to work on something else, instead of basically invalidating everything he made before that time.

It's one thing if you invalidate a bunch of dumb Batman plot or whatever, it's another to invalidate everything good about the series because "I was making it too complex and didn't want to be bothered to reel it in".

SBR didn't invalidate anything, blame Stone Ocean for that; Jojo's part 6 ending was lovely though.
If Araki ever picks up stuff from before the same way G-Mo did then the better, if not it doesn't make SBR any less good.

Scott Bakula
Jul 24, 2007



What was Gold Experience Requiem's power again? Its been some time since I read part 5.

Is it just me or did he become less happy to kill off major characters in the later series as well?

Dickeye
Oct 12, 2007

"I never thought you'd be the one to help me achieve my dreams!"

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Can someone link to that blog of the dudes redoing the part 4 scans? Or whatever part it was that has godawful scans.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those bat-men.

Jose posted:

What was Gold Experience Requiem's power again? Its been some time since I read part 5.

The power to reset things. For instance, pummeling a certain someone to death and then resetting things so that he's untouched & will then spend the rest of time getting pummeled to death.

Kweh
Jul 20, 2006

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Dickeye posted:

Can someone link to that blog of the dudes redoing the part 4 scans? Or whatever part it was that has godawful scans.

Huh I could have sworn it was already posted somewhere in this thread before http://donebetterelsewhere.blogspot.com/

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009


HitTheTargets posted:

The power to reset things. For instance, pummeling a certain someone to death and then resetting things so that he's untouched & will then spend the rest of time getting pummeled to death.

Actually he never dies, the peculiar thing about GER is that the final effect will never happen.

TNG
Jan 4, 2001



Jose posted:

What was Gold Experience Requiem's power again? Its been some time since I read part 5.

Is it just me or did he become less happy to kill off major characters in the later series as well?

Hehe, funny you mention that and part 5 in the same post.

He kills off Buccellati at like the midway point, but it just doesn't take until the very end.

Man, Part 5 is so unbalanced. It has very imaginative stands, a cool set up(GANGSTERS), and a fun cast of characters. On the other hand it has a pretty boring Jojo all things considered, a set of really ridiculous stands towards the end, and a very very strong case of Villain of the week syndrome. The downtime where the characters can just hang out and do stuff isn't as strong in Part V due to the whole chase theme. I like Part 4 so much because Josuke, Koichi, and Okuyasu do stuff that helps to build their characters independent of ORA ORA ORA ORA.

Kweh
Jul 20, 2006

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The arc in part 4 where josuke plays dice against rohan had me rolling on the floor.

TNG
Jan 4, 2001



I think my favorite is a toss up between the second Kira arc(Face Switch) and the one with Boyz II Men.

Dickeye
Oct 12, 2007

"I never thought you'd be the one to help me achieve my dreams!"

Most Improved CD Poster Custom Title Award, 2007 to present.


Kweh posted:

Huh I could have sworn it was already posted somewhere in this thread before http://donebetterelsewhere.blogspot.com/

It was in the other JoJo thread, which is the only reason I knew about it

Batigh
Dec 21, 2009


Jesus Christ, I didn't even notice the "AWAKEN, MY CLUB" image was fanart until a friend I got reading through it pointed it out to me. Such is the power of Araki that I don't even bat an eye at the superbuffeminate.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


I think it funny that literally no one was surprised when Araki came out of the closet.

Like, yeah it's a given, but it's funny in how much it was a given.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004

Do you like steak dinners and sex with handsome men?


haha when did he come out?

Flashbang!
May 16, 2009


If, at all.

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Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Maybe I'm remembering wrong and it's just an open secret.

He loves manlove though.

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