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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Where are images of this board? I want to simultaneously laugh at and drool over it. http://www.techpowerup.com/201568/adata-ddr4-oc-module-spotted-on-a-working-haswell-e-hedt-system.html 
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Rime posted:http://www.techpowerup.com/201568/adata-ddr4-oc-module-spotted-on-a-working-haswell-e-hedt-system.html help im drowning in dimm slots 
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Cross post from the windows thread but a few weeks ago I asked what was the lowest CPU that could run Win8.1 and it was presumed to be the Pentium M with NX bit. I hopped on ebay and snagged a Dell Precision M70 (WUXGA  ) for $40 to give it a try. Works ok but getting hard locks every 1-30min. Not reproduce-able consistently. I'm going to try some other OSes and also clean out the guts and re TIM the heatsinks as well.
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Jul 18, 2014 17:12
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I thought you could technically run it on quite a bit less than that, not that you'd want to of course...
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Jul 18, 2014 17:22
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1gnoirents posted:I thought you could technically run it on quite a bit less than that, not that you'd want to of course... You can if you disable the NX bit check but then you run the risk of crashing lots which defeats the purpose. AFAIK the Pentium M models with the 533FSB is the oldest CPU thats supported.
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Jul 18, 2014 17:24
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Oh I was just thinking slowest, not oldest. Which is probably a whole new set of rules
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Jul 18, 2014 17:27
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1gnoirents posted:Oh I was just thinking slowest, not oldest. Which is probably a whole new set of rules lovely Atoms. But oldest is WAY cooler than slowest.
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Jul 18, 2014 17:30
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Just got a 4790k batch L419B607 at my local frys. Hopefully I can get 5ghz on the asus hero vii with a coolermaster evo212, lol.
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r0ck0 posted:Just got a 4790k batch L419B607 at my local frys. Hopefully I can get 5ghz on the asus hero vii with a coolermaster evo212, lol. Most people are hitting 5ghz on the stock intel cooler.
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Jul 18, 2014 20:44
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Don Lapre posted:Most people are hitting 5ghz on the stock intel cooler. GTFO, link? Are there any guides for setting up the hero vii for overclocking the 4790k? What exactly do I need to change, just bump the multiplier and add some vcore as needed?
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Jul 18, 2014 20:48
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r0ck0 posted:GTFO, link? Are there any guides for setting up the hero vii for overclocking the 4790k? What exactly do I need to change, just bump the multiplier and add some vcore as needed? Yea im lying to you.
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r0ck0 posted:Just got a 4790k batch L419B607 at my local frys. Hopefully I can get 5ghz on the asus hero vii with a coolermaster evo212, lol. maybe if you delid and put a house fan directly onto your cooler and turn the AC down to 55 and are lucky enough to get one that will maybe
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Jul 18, 2014 21:18
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Intel has released some new low-end Haswell Refresh processors:
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Anyone know if a random Xeon server or workstation will take an i7 as long as they are both LGA1366? Would HP/Dell lock it out of the BIOS for any reason?
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Bob Morales posted:Anyone know if a random Xeon server or workstation will take an i7 as long as they are both LGA1366? Would HP/Dell lock it out of the BIOS for any reason? Single Socket Motherboard? Maybe. Otherwise? Not a chance.
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Jul 24, 2014 14:55
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roadhead posted:Single Socket Motherboard? Maybe. Yea, single socket.
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Welmu posted:Intel has released some new low-end Haswell Refresh processors: 4370 looking pretty badass assuming a good microcenter price
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Jul 24, 2014 15:24
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1gnoirents posted:4370 looking pretty badass Yeah, I spotted it before it launched: a 3.8GHz i3 is absolutely killer, and for gaming, that's actually going to be a decent choice, saving you a decent amount over an i5.
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I have an i5 2500k @ 4.2ghz. Would you say it's worth it to upgrade to Devil's Canyon or wait to upgrade to Broadwell or Skylake? I use it primarily for gaming but also 3d modelling.
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Swartz posted:I have an i5 2500k @ 4.2ghz. Would you say it's worth it to upgrade to Devil's Canyon or wait to upgrade to Broadwell or Skylake? I use it primarily for gaming but also 3d modelling. Even as someone obsessed with having the fastest hardware out there I decided against upgrading from my 2600k to Devil's Canyon, it's just not a big enough performance increase. You might be interested in Haswell-E if improving 3d modeling performance is a high priority otherwise I'd just wait.
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MaxxBot posted:Even as someone obsessed with having the fastest hardware out there I decided against upgrading from my 2600k to Devil's Canyon, it's just not a big enough performance increase. You might be interested in Haswell-E if improving 3d modeling performance is a high priority otherwise I'd just wait. --edit: I just see that Wikipedia mentions an EM64T enhanced mode with double the amount of integer registers. That's a pretty recent reveal, right? Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jul 24, 2014 |
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I have a 2600k at 4.5Ghz. I couldn't justify an upgrade either, ended up just getting a solid state drive. CPUs haven't really improved too much in terms of performance since 2010. (If you want an appreciable upgrade get a solid state drive. It's ludicrous)
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The only reason I'm thinking about Devil's Canyon is because I live near a Microcenter and their CPU/motherboard bundles would be about a $100+ savings that I won't get until the next hardware release cycle. I'm on a Xeon E3-1230 (Sandy Bridge) and it's humming away fine and the gripes I might have are only solved with a few substantially more expensive rackmounts. Heck, if anything the server motherboard I use is annoying without USB 3.0, no audio (bought a sound card in 2014, yes I did), and no Bluetooth for some peripherals and a headset.MaxxBot posted:Even as someone obsessed with having the fastest hardware out there I decided against upgrading from my 2600k to Devil's Canyon, it's just not a big enough performance increase. You might be interested in Haswell-E if improving 3d modeling performance is a high priority otherwise I'd just wait. If the things here don't ring a bell for you, I'd just wait until something breaks or Intel kicks rear end with Broadwell, Skylake, and so on. http://blog.scottlowe.org/2012/09/11/spcs001-intel-next-generation-haswell-microarchitecture/
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Does Windows support hardware lock elision already in its threading APIs? I wonder how much a difference it makes under load.
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I want to upgrade from this 920 so badly but if I get DC then I'm still DDR3, however it'll be years before DDR4 is affordable and not slow as molasses. This is the most brutal transition in generations. 
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PerrineClostermann posted:I have a 2600k at 4.5Ghz. I couldn't justify an upgrade either, ended up just getting a solid state drive. CPUs haven't really improved too much in terms of performance since 2010. The only upgrade I'm considering myself, and it's more of a sidegrade, is replacing my perfectly good P67 mobo with a Z68 so I can use the integrated GPU, and get rid of the loving obnoxious market segmentation I'm victim to right now. It would let me get rid of my GT210. I /have/ been meaning to build a headless Linux machine for builds though, so maybe I'll get an used 2500K or something and use the P67 the-- oh wait, I wouldn't have a GPU. Goddammit.
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Jul 25, 2014 06:46
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Get the $100 deal from microcenter 
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Rime posted:I want to upgrade from this 920 so badly but if I get DC then I'm still DDR3, however it'll be years before DDR4 is affordable and not slow as molasses. This is the most brutal transition in generations.
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Alereon posted:DDR3-2400 was effortless via XMP on my new build, and I didn't even have to pay extra for the RAM. To me DDR4 is more about power, manufacturing costs, and the long-term, not benefits today or soon. So basically, if you want a rig that will last as long as a 920 before upgrading again, go with the final DDR3 generation socket.
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Judging by past trends, what're the odds of a new crop of z97-compatible motherboards in the mid-to-long-term future that'd support a 4970k? I'm looking at buying a Maximus VII Gene to fit the case I've got (since it seems to be the best mATX motherboard that doesn't have a  KILLER NIC ), but if something newer and somehow better is going to come out before Broadwell, I can wait.
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Jul 26, 2014 03:41
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I have the gene. its an awesome board.
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atomicthumbs posted:Judging by past trends, what're the odds of a new crop of z97-compatible motherboards in the mid-to-long-term future that'd support a 4970k? I'm looking at buying a Maximus VII Gene to fit the case I've got (since it seems to be the best mATX motherboard that doesn't have a ASUS really only makes one generation of ROG boards per chipset, so unless Intel does yet another refresh of Haswell (unlikely) AND introduces a new chipset to go along with it (almost certainly will not), there will not be another Socket 1150 Maximus GENE.
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GokieKS posted:ASUS really only makes one generation of ROG boards per chipset, so unless Intel does yet another refresh of Haswell (unlikely) AND introduces a new chipset to go along with it (almost certainly will not), there will not be another Socket 1150 Maximus GENE. This, though what was their reasoning for making all those [insert badass name here]-Z boards for Z68 again? Was it just to have new stuff for the initial launch of Ivy Bridge? I remember Z77 came out really quickly afterwards.
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Rime posted:I want to upgrade from this 920 so badly but if I get DC then I'm still DDR3, however it'll be years before DDR4 is affordable and not slow as molasses. This is the most brutal transition in generations. Strong NAND flash and LPDDRx demand for SSDs and mobile devices is definitely killing DDR4 adoption right in the tracks. At least I hope this time JEDEC smartens up and get rid of desktop physical standard, because I fail to see why we simply couldn't just use laptop memory for desktop PCs in this age for economics of scale and space savings.
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movax posted:The only upgrade I'm considering myself, and it's more of a sidegrade, is replacing my perfectly good P67 mobo with a Z68 so I can use the integrated GPU, and get rid of the loving obnoxious market segmentation I'm victim to right now. It would let me get rid of my GT210. Don't forget that you can do the same thing with Z77.
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Speaking of Intel platforms what's the difference between the H and Z chipsets? Is one superior? I've poked around but they all seem to have the same feature set and whatnot.
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Panty Saluter posted:Speaking of Intel platforms what's the difference between the H and Z chipsets? Is one superior? I've poked around but they all seem to have the same feature set and whatnot. Z allows overclocking. H does not. This distinction is muddied by the fact that a number of motherboard manufacturers hacked in at least some overclocking support to a number of their H (and B) boards. Z also allows PCIe lane bifurcation for SLI and CrossFire graphics configurations (or really, for two or three high-performance PCIe devices regardless of use). H boards could be hacked the same way with a PCIe bridge, but that's more expensive than just using a Z in the first place. Factory Factory fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Ah, that makes sense. Nice to know I bought the right one (purely by accident but what the heck). This is more of a general computing question but motherboards are grounded at the mounting points aren't they? Or do the standoffs keep that from happening?
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Yes, they are grounded. There are metal contacts in most of the screw holes just for that reason - so that, through the case and the PSU casing on through the cable, everything can ground to earth. Grounding at places other than the screw holes is incorrect and causes errors (e.g. "poo poo don't turn on" syndrome), though, so use your stand-offs. It's not necessary to have the board ground through the case, though - any black wire from the PSU is a ground connection. But grounding through the case helps prevent static electricity problems, especially during assembly.
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I found a couple of mine were loose and after tightening them my BSODs have seriously declined in number. Granted I removed my discrete sound card at that time as well so who knows? Hooray for sloppy rear end troubleshooting!
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