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Linnaeus posted:Disgaea 5 has my favorite gameplay/mechanics in the series, but the characters were kinda disappointing coming from 4 and D2. Yeah, the story and characters are a bit weaker but it's the most polished gameplay the series has had which makes it well worth playing. For Erg, I definitely echo the Child of Light recommendation. It shorter than what you were asking but pretty quality all the way through. I'd also add Valkyria Chronicles if you don't mind strategy RPGs.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I recently got a PS4, so: how is Disgaea 5 overall? I got way into 1 and 2 long, long ago, but actively hated 3 and haven't been able to really get into the series since, possibly since I NIS binged as a teenager and burnt out hard on all the Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom etc. Feinne says it's the best in the series, but they are a self-professed Disgaea enthusiast, so I'd be interested in opinions from people who aren't as super-into the games. I am something of an enthusiast, so take this with a grain of salt (I guess), but: Disgaea 5 has the best gameplay mechanics of the series, by and large, even if I don't especially care for the Overload mechanic (because it disincentivizes generics again). The story is very boring for a Disgaea story, probably even more than Disgaea 2.
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Jul 24, 2016 03:59
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I think Erg should play Atelier Escha & Logy
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I found Disgaea 5 cast to be one of the better ones in the series, especially coming off D4's cast which I loathed only slightly less than D3's.
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Jul 24, 2016 04:03
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corn in the bible posted:DO YOU WANNA DANCE WITH THE DEVIL IN THE PALE GAMINDUSTRILIGHT???? You have officially been hanging around me too much.
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Jul 24, 2016 04:31
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Child of Light is a good game.
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Jul 24, 2016 04:35
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I am enjoying I Am Setsuna quite a bit, modest though it is.
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Jul 24, 2016 04:52
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Verranicus posted:7th Dragon 2020 and its sequels, Exit Fate, Infinite Space, Sengoku Rance, Eien no Aselia, Xenoblade (Though it's largely optional). so people shouldn't play the neptunias; instead, they should play the grand strategy visual novel where you put women into rape dungeons so you can rape them for exp. good. just wanted to get yyour position clear here
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Jul 24, 2016 04:56
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Bongo Bill posted:I am enjoying I Am Setsuna quite a bit, modest though it is. No, see, it's bad because corn in the bible posted:so people shouldn't play the neptunias; instead, they should play the grand strategy visual novel where you put women into rape dungeons so you can rape them for exp. good. just wanted to get yyour position clear here To be fair, I never said the games were good, just that they had aspects of what he was looking for. God bless.
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Jul 24, 2016 05:07
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haha you lying coward sack of poo poo
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Jul 24, 2016 05:09
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Verranicus posted:No, see, it's bad because There's an embarrassment of good JRPGs out this year, and I can't blame anybody wanting to spend their time on one with a stronger hook or more novelty. But it's really well put together, it plays nice, it's got a strong mood, and I've yet to see anything annoying or questionable.
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Jul 24, 2016 05:11
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Verranicus posted:To be fair, I never said the games were good, just that they had aspects of what he was looking for. God bless.  Get out and don't come back
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Jul 24, 2016 05:12
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Verranicus posted:No, see, it's bad becaus ... People pretty clearly listed problems with it.
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Bongo Bill posted:There's an embarrassment of good JRPGs out this year, and I can't blame anybody wanting to spend their time on one with a stronger hook or more novelty. But it's really well put together, it plays nice, it's got a strong mood, and I've yet to see anything annoying or questionable. Good on you. The game wasn't what other people were looking for and they explained why. Doesn't mean you're a bad person or wrong for playing and enjoying it though.  Panic! at Nabisco posted:I recently got a PS4, so: how is Disgaea 5 overall? I got way into 1 and 2 long, long ago, but actively hated 3 and haven't been able to really get into the series since, possibly since I NIS binged as a teenager and burnt out hard on all the Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom etc. Feinne says it's the best in the series, but they are a self-professed Disgaea enthusiast, so I'd be interested in opinions from people who aren't as super-into the games. Echoing this because I'm still playing Disgaea PC and, when the sound isn't dropping or the graphics are going screwy, I'm having a lot of fun with it and I'd love to know what other games are worth a look. And after a quick look at Steam I guess that just means Phantom Brave.
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Bongo Bill posted:There's an embarrassment of good JRPGs out this year, and I can't blame anybody wanting to spend their time on one with a stronger hook or more novelty. But it's really well put together, it plays nice, it's got a strong mood, and I've yet to see anything annoying or questionable. Yeah, it's pretty good.
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Jul 24, 2016 05:24
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someone asked for decent jrpgs and i suggested RAPE RPG THE RAPENING but that shouldnt be taken to imply i think it's decent, because
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Jul 24, 2016 05:26
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just own up to liking the game where you get to rape a bunch of women, many of whom are probably underage, in order to level up your rapist's army so he can conquer more women and then conquer them in the rape sense, you loving creepy rape-fetishist pedophile
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Jul 24, 2016 05:27
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See, this kind of response wouldn't be happening if you could just talk about RPGs that you like instead of making GBS threads on other ones for having the gall to exist and attract customers. Anyway, what did people think about that series of Penny Arcade games that was a thing way back?
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Jul 24, 2016 05:28
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corn in the bible posted:DO YOU WANNA DANCE WITH THE DEVIL IN THE PALE GAMINDUSTRILIGHT???? I mean if you're offering I wouldn't mind
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look, it's not my fault that i recommended the steam release of cinderella escape when that guy asked for stealth game reccomendations
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corn in the bible posted:just own up to liking the game where you get to rape a bunch of women, many of whom are probably underage, in order to level up your rapist's army so he can conquer more women and then conquer them in the rape sense, you loving creepy rape-fetishist pedophile Not to defend him or nothin but I think you might be going overboard here
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Jul 24, 2016 05:29
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No, I Am Setsuna has a lot of problems. The mere indisputable fact that you can finish 90% of the game using just Blowbeat over and over and over again is a real legitimate design problem. The extreme lack of distinctive environment is a real legitimate design problem. The poorly designed sidequests are a real legitimate problem. The price tag is a real problem for the amount of content and polish the game has. Not all of them may be a big issue to you but "oh no people are just being mean to I Am Setsuna for no reason" is dumb. RareAcumen posted:See, this kind of response wouldn't be happening if you could just talk about RPGs that you like instead of making GBS threads on other ones for having the gall to exist and attract customers. They're... eh. The third is the only one I'd say is good and even then the humor is weak.
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RareAcumen posted:See, this kind of response wouldn't be happening if you could just talk about RPGs that you like instead of making GBS threads on other ones for having the gall to exist and attract customers. I played Episode 3 and really enjoyed it. Never got around to 4 because it apparently ditched the cool class sytem for some kind of monster capturing thing that didn't sound appealing to me at the time.
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RareAcumen posted:See, this kind of response wouldn't be happening if you could just talk about RPGs that you like instead of making GBS threads on other ones for having the gall to exist and attract customers. I don't care what some crazies think online, though, especially if they have bad enough taste to think Neptunia is good. To answer your question the first two games were okay if overly easy but I liked the later games better when they switched to an FFVI graphics style.
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RareAcumen posted:Anyway, what did people think about that series of Penny Arcade games that was a thing way back? I enjoyed the first one. It wasn't, you know..good, but I liked that it made a character for the 2D cutscenes. The first Zeboyd one was good, but I never got around to playing the second one. I dunno if I'd enjoy them anymore to be honest, but hey.
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i don't poo poo on setsuna as much as i just don't think it looks like an interesting game, and i can't really fathom spending time on a decently long-ish jrpg that's just kind of bland neptunia is more interesting to me, because it makes me laugh and the games usually cost like six bucks
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Verranicus posted:I don't care what some crazies think online, though, especially if they have bad enough taste to think Neptunia is good. corn in the bible posted:here, i'll make you a deal. every time you make a post about neptunia, i will gift it to someone on steam. Terper posted:I mean if you're offering I wouldn't mind post your steam or whatever
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There's a tradition of porn RPGs, whose content ranges from merely explicit to monstrous and horrible, having incongruously sophisticated and novel mechanics. I guess if it's a labor of love - labor of lust? - with a guaranteed selling point, designers can just go nuts.
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ImpAtom posted:No, I Am Setsuna has a lot of problems. The mere indisputable fact that you can finish 90% of the game using just Blowbeat over and over and over again is a real legitimate design problem. The extreme lack of distinctive environment is a real legitimate design problem. The poorly designed sidequests are a real legitimate problem. The price tag is a real problem for the amount of content and polish the game has. Not all of them may be a big issue to you but "oh no people are just being mean to I Am Setsuna for no reason" is dumb. Actually I Am Setsuna is a good and fun game.
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The Colonel posted:i don't poo poo on setsuna as much as i just don't think it looks like an interesting game, and i can't really fathom spending time on a decently long-ish jrpg that's just kind of bland It's short rather than long. Or so I'm told. I'm not done yet. About 25 hours is the figure I've heard.
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i'd consider twenty hours too long, imo, to spend on something that's just kinda okay
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I made my way through the first neptunia rebirth around the time it came out. The menu asthetics and a lot of the backgrounds were quite pretty and the character art and designs were cute and cutely animated. I did rather like nep's personality (something about stupidly cheerful stupid characters that makes me go yeah!), Plus her English voice actor had a lot of enthusiasm for the role which is great. The story was far too vapid though, and the reused areas and textures is just too shameless. The amount of extra characters is wasted by the fact that most of them just show up and join without any further plot development. A lot of the random NPC dialogue is useless gibberish, which you are more or less forced to soldier through, because a lot of them give items. And the grinding. Christ, the grinding. Wish alternate clothing options didn't cost so much too. Still, I can definitely appreciate them breaking new ground and trying weird plot ideas no one else has the balls to go through with. Far too many RPGs just stick to the way beaten fantasy tropes. At least I finished neptunia, whereas I wouldn't have enough fingers to count off all the fantasy RPGs I've dropped just because I got immediately and deathly bored by the standard fare plot/setting. As far as being an RPG goes, it's middling, and is really just designed to target a very specific type of audience. Don't think I'd really be up to play any of the others in the series, even if they are pretty and set in modern/futuristic times. Though apparently the newest one is kinda competent?
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corn in the bible posted:post your steam or whatever http://steamcommunity.com/id/Terper/
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Golden Battler posted:I played Episode 3 and really enjoyed it. Never got around to 4 because it apparently ditched the cool class sytem for some kind of monster capturing thing that didn't sound appealing to me at the time. It's precisely due to the strength of those games that I think Cosmic Star Heroine has a chance. Breath of Death and Cthulhu Saves the World were pretty low budget and small titles. PA and CSH look to be what happens when Zeboyd really push their style.
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Verranicus posted:Actually I Am Setsuna is a good and fun game. 
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Shark Tower posted:I made my way through the first neptunia rebirth around the time it came out. The menu asthetics and a lot of the backgrounds were quite pretty and the character art and designs were cute and cutely animated. I did rather like nep's personality (something about stupidly cheerful stupid characters that makes me go yeah!), Plus her English voice actor had a lot of enthusiasm for the role which is great. apparently the translations for the later re;birth games are more colorful and the grinding is a bit better? vii seems to be the first one that is just like, yeah, it's a good video game
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Shark Tower posted:I made my way through the first neptunia rebirth around the time it came out. The menu asthetics and a lot of the backgrounds were quite pretty and the character art and designs were cute and cutely animated. I did rather like nep's personality (something about stupidly cheerful stupid characters that makes me go yeah!), Plus her English voice actor had a lot of enthusiasm for the role which is great. They're not even pretty, the graphics are garish as gently caress. Okay, from now on whenever I post a negative comment about Neptunia I will also list a better RPG that people should play instead of it, I hope this helps. The Amber Throne is very pretty and very good and only costs 12 dollars on Steam. It looks miles better than any game Compile Heart has come out with and was made in RPG Maker.
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can't wait for media vision to come back to life and put out that symphogear action rpg Verranicus posted:They're not even pretty, the graphics are garish as gently caress. they're mediocre, not really worth calling attention to. the original ps3 games look worse than the newer ones The Colonel fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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ImpAtom posted:No, I Am Setsuna has a lot of problems. The mere indisputable fact that you can finish 90% of the game using just Blowbeat over and over and over again is a real legitimate design problem. The extreme lack of distinctive environment is a real legitimate design problem. The poorly designed sidequests are a real legitimate problem. The price tag is a real problem for the amount of content and polish the game has. Not all of them may be a big issue to you but "oh no people are just being mean to I Am Setsuna for no reason" is dumb. I kinda liked the Barbershop Quartet enemies in the first game. "Hellooooo" "Hellooooo" "Hellooooo" "Hellooooo" "Gooooooodbyyyye!"
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