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Punch Card
Sep 13, 2005

by Ralp

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Yea, I remember seeing that goddamn clown and just being: "Right, I wonder who this ginger fucker is working for." Then it turns out that he's the loving main and almost sole villain?

I mean, the Queen and the idiot romance mostly worked out, the son-pirate was heartwarming and sorta cool (MOMMA!) in a dumb way but if they had tried to make a worse villain I don't see how they coulda.

I also remember reading that Jansen's English VA was able to ad-lib quite a bit, and even as like a fifth-tier improv performer he was able to be way better than most traditional voice actors reading questionably translated/localized material right off the page. It always made me wonder what could happen if a good writer supervised a handful of good UCB people, not necessarily even any famous ones, and provided them a basic framework for their characters' personalities and important plot points to hit upon and just let them do their thing.

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Yakiniku Teishoku
Mar 16, 2011

Peace On Egg

Punch Card posted:

I also remember reading that Jansen's English VA was able to ad-lib quite a bit, and even as like a fifth-tier improv performer he was able to be way better than most traditional voice actors reading questionably translated/localized material right off the page. It always made me wonder what could happen if a good writer supervised a handful of good UCB people, not necessarily even any famous ones, and provided them a basic framework for their characters' personalities and important plot points to hit upon and just let them do their thing.

His voice work was definitely one of my favorite parts of the game. It's also one of the few RPGs released in the last 10 years where I actually gave two shits about learning more about the characters' lives.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters
The only guy I've seen more telegraphed as an enemy than the guy from Lost Odyssey was your professor from Enchanted Arms:



This is what he looks like when you first see him, and the game actually tries to pretend that he isn't going to turn out to be evil in the end. I mean, holy poo poo, look at him.

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



He looks like Chairman Kaga with a face rash.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Did he make his coat out of the sorting hat from harry potter?

OneDeadman
Oct 16, 2010

[SUPERBIA]
He just did a real bad job doing his highlights and turns out the hair color he was using will stain ANYTHING.

Do you really think a bad guy would add cool highlights to his hair?

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters
"Hello...students. Welcome...TO CLASS! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
We did it we found the one person who played Enchanted Arms.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Million Ghosts posted:

We did it we found the one person who played Enchanted Arms.

I played Enchanted Arms. :colbert: The Four Heavenly Kings were broken as hell once you got them.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
I like the part of Sword of Mana where they discuss the idea that someone called "DARK LORD" might be good or just misunderstood.

Million Ghosts posted:

We did it we found the one person who played Enchanted Arms.

Don't you say poo poo about my pizza golem and the President of the USA's battlemech.

Dr. Eldarion
Mar 21, 2001

Deal Dispatcher

Million Ghosts posted:

We did it we found the one person who played Enchanted Arms.

There are a few of us out there. Too many years with too few JRPGs, you start to get desperate.

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

I was so desperate for JRPGs I bought both versions of that game. :negative:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

kirbysuperstar posted:

I like the part of Sword of Mana where they discuss the idea that someone called "DARK LORD" might be good or just misunderstood.


Don't you say poo poo about my pizza golem and the President of the USA's battlemech.

To be fair Chrono Trigger has a plot where a guy with pointy ears, pale white skin, darkness magic and who goes by the name "Demon Lord" turns out to be a not-so-bad guy who joins your team. It can happen.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Million Ghosts posted:

We did it we found the one person who played Enchanted Arms.
I played it. Probably have the dvds around here somewhere still. Game was awful though. Completely forgettable.

Factory Davey
Jan 9, 2010

I am aware of what the hands look like. I did my best. :(
I think I stopped that game right before it ended. Figured one day I'd care enough about if the flamboyantly gay character was the masked hero or not, but nope.

Also that one monster that was a pizza. He was cool.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country
I just realised i have the first two Wild Arms games and Suikoden 1 on my PSN account. Are they worth playing? I know the Suikoden franchise is a relatively well known JRPG franchise but i didn't get around to ever checking it out.

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009
All three of those games are pretty dated IIRC but I enjoyed the hell out of WA1 and Suikoden so I'd say go for it.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
Wild Arms 1 and Suikoden are pretty cool, yeah. Totally worth it on their own.

Wild Arms 2 is also totally worth it but just for how hilariously awful the translation is.

Dackel
Sep 11, 2014


CVagts posted:

All three of those games are pretty dated IIRC but I enjoyed the hell out of WA1 and Suikoden so I'd say go for it.

Can only second this, enjoyed Suikoden immensely and I still revisit Suikoden 1 and 2 regularly. WA is also pretty fun and it had (at the time) some cool new things imo

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009

Dackel posted:

Can only second this, enjoyed Suikoden immensely and I still revisit Suikoden 1 and 2 regularly. WA is also pretty fun and it had (at the time) some cool new things imo

Just to add, there is a non-zero percent chance that Suikoden II will be on PSN in the future, and it's one of the best RPGs ever IMO, and there's just enough from Suikoden 1 in it that playing through 1 first would be of benefit.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country
Thanks for the feedback, i'll add them to my backlog which currently stands at about 200 or so titles

I still have my eye on the Arc the Lad series and Legend of Mana, more games which i'll probably never end up playing

there are way too many games

Dackel
Sep 11, 2014


TheIllestVillain posted:

Thanks for the feedback, i'll add them to my backlog which currently stands at about 200 or so titles

I still have my eye on the Arc the Lad series and Legend of Mana, more games which i'll probably never end up playing

there are way too many games

Arc the Lad 1 and 2 were enjoyable, 3 was a little... different?

Legend of Mana was a bit of a disappointment for me, but it's not a bad game per se

Punch Card
Sep 13, 2005

by Ralp

CVagts posted:

Just to add, there is a non-zero percent chance that Suikoden II will be on PSN in the future, and it's one of the best RPGs ever IMO, and there's just enough from Suikoden 1 in it that playing through 1 first would be of benefit.

Just in case anyone hasn't played at least Suikoden II yet, I finally got around to playing through a whole game from scratch only a couple weeks ago and it's up there with any JRPG. I mean, just about everyone who plays it considers it to be that good, but if anyone needs that extra push to actually get around to playing it, I hope this helps get someone to that point.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Dackel posted:

Arc the Lad 1 and 2 were enjoyable, 3 was a little... different?

Legend of Mana was a bit of a disappointment for me, but it's not a bad game per se
Arc the Lad 2 was pretty loving long, though. And the final boss is an enormous roadblock with something enormously more HP than the second toughest enemy in the game. 9999 HP for the second form when everything else is down in 3 digits.

Zereth fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Nov 24, 2014

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Arc 2's end boss gets a lot of hype because you probably haven't been using the people that work best against him, what with the gigantic cast. A couple people with Divide and the rest with maxed weapon skills that don't all have to be right in front of the fucker and he drops pretty fast.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Is there any benefit from importing the Arc 1 save into 2?
I did that after a normal playthrough and there wasn't anything I could call a bonus.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



SelenicMartian posted:

Is there any benefit from importing the Arc 1 save into 2?
I did that after a normal playthrough and there wasn't anything I could call a bonus.
It affects the levels and gear of the returning characters, and there's a sidequest you have to start in 1 that you can complete in 2. It involves Choko, I think?

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

SelenicMartian posted:

Is there any benefit from importing the Arc 1 save into 2?

Yes, a huge benefit. If you completely complete Arc 1 you'll get a ton of stuff, mostly the complete version of Choko's plotline and an enormous collection of items. It takes a long while to actually get to them, but once you get free reign you can go to Chongara's shop and just hoover up all the treasure chests there. You'll also get the components for the Romancing Stone if you got all four in Arc 1, which completely wipes out MP costs for whoever has it.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Stelas posted:

You'll also get the components for the Romancing Stone if you got all four in Arc 1, which completely wipes out MP costs for whoever has it.

And it can be cloned. :black101:

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:

I think I stopped that game right before it ended. Figured one day I'd care enough about if the flamboyantly gay character was the masked hero or not, but nope.

I stopped on EA when I got near the end I think. You ended up having to fight your friend or something. I just remember "OKAY THIS IS IT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT ME NOW. NO HOLDING BACK. I'M NOT GOING EASY ON YOU. OKAY THIS IS IT LETS DO IT" <fight ensues, I kill him> GAME OVER. You weren't supposed to fight/kill him or whatever.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.
I have two more questions about SaGa Frontier 2 for those who are better than me at paying attention to the plot (first is a kinda big spoiler): Is Fake Gustave supposed to be Rich Knights?

Where/when did Gustave get Gustave's Sword? It's definitely between the Conquest of Wide and the military assault on the Eastern Continent, since Gustave has it during the army battle against Finney

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Heavy neutrino posted:

I have two more questions about SaGa Frontier 2 for those who are better than me at paying attention to the plot (first is a kinda big spoiler): Is Fake Gustave supposed to be Rich Knights?

Where/when did Gustave get Gustave's Sword? It's definitely between the Conquest of Wide and the military assault on the Eastern Continent, since Gustave has it during the army battle against Finney

Pretty sure he's just some random general. One of the Japanese guide books goes into further detail but I can't remember exactly. Gustave's story isn't really supposed to overlap the Knights unless explicitly stated.

Gustave's sword is something he works on his entire life. He probably made the first real version of it when he's 18 or so.

Erg
Oct 31, 2010

I just started the third year of Meruru and I'm at 35 for alchemy and adventure levels. When I try going into Ent forest I can kill the griffin without dying horribly, but the Ent keeps pushing my poo poo in.

The only letter I've gotten for this year is about the Ent forest, and I've cleared out everything prior to this. Please tell me there's some content that I've missed that's supposed to bridge this gap.

Oblivion590
Nov 23, 2010

Erg posted:

I just started the third year of Meruru and I'm at 35 for alchemy and adventure levels. When I try going into Ent forest I can kill the griffin without dying horribly, but the Ent keeps pushing my poo poo in.

The only letter I've gotten for this year is about the Ent forest, and I've cleared out everything prior to this. Please tell me there's some content that I've missed that's supposed to bridge this gap.

The Ent is a major challenge when it first appears, and you aren't supposed to be able to beat it right away. The forest will move around every once in a while until you kill the Ent, and some of its new destinations will not be accessible yet. A lot of content starts showing up around the start of year 4, but I don't remember how much shows up in year 3.

Erg
Oct 31, 2010

Oblivion590 posted:

The Ent is a major challenge when it first appears, and you aren't supposed to be able to beat it right away. The forest will move around every once in a while until you kill the Ent, and some of its new destinations will not be accessible yet. A lot of content starts showing up around the start of year 4, but I don't remember how much shows up in year 3.

It turned out I needed to return to the upper right and lower right corners of the map to get tasks to pop up for them. I wasted about 6 months, but the fact there's 4 years instead of 3 makes me think finishing everything out is just going to be a challenge instead of impossible. Thanks!

Forest Thief Pud
Dec 26, 2011

Erg posted:

It turned out I needed to return to the upper right and lower right corners of the map to get tasks to pop up for them. I wasted about 6 months, but the fact there's 4 years instead of 3 makes me think finishing everything out is just going to be a challenge instead of impossible. Thanks!

It's actually 5 game years for Meruru unless you don't reach the major goals the king/Rufus give you by the end of year 3, in which case the game ends.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Could you guys recommend me an SRPG with more modern sensibilities like Disgaea? By that I mean options for faster movement and the option to animations and cut-scenes. Also not a necessity but it would be nice to have multiple victory conditions.

I do like the genre but I also don't like how slow it can be such as FFTA2.

a busted-up mailbox
Dec 14, 2012
I am playing 7th Dragon and I am completely stuck, not sure where else to ask this.

I defeated the invisible Imperial Dragon, and apparently, I'm supposed to get to the Marlleaire Islands next, like so. The problem is that the boat doesn't seem to be able to cross dark blue water. What am I doing wrong?

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009

Million Ghosts posted:

We did it we found the one person who played Enchanted Arms.
Enchanted Arms is the worst JRPG I have ever played. It's so lovely that even the people that made it realized it so they give you an option to auto-win every battle because the combat is such a boring mess. The protagonist has all the charisma of a dead dog and the supporting casts most interesting member is a gay stereotype. It's so bad. I curse the day I paid seven dollars for it.

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HiveCommander
Jun 19, 2012

Jim Barris posted:

Enchanted Arms is the worst JRPG I have ever played. It's so lovely that even the people that made it realized it so they give you an option to auto-win every battle because the combat is such a boring mess. The protagonist has all the charisma of a dead dog and the supporting casts most interesting member is a gay stereotype. It's so bad. I curse the day I paid seven dollars for it.
The auto-win idea was so good that Square Enix ended up using it in FF13, so you could let the game play itself for the first 20 hours that it takes for it to actually become good :v:

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